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You have to hold the up/down buttons down along with the menu button to access that. From there you can select the TC Level and control along with the XXX mode curves.
Thanks, Mark. It's all there now, with the update.
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Seems dead. Looks like they are focusing on chips and batteries. Not mods. Which is a shame
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That I don't understand at all. It would be a huge selling point for me. Unless that company claims it's their own chip
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Why would it be such a huge selling point? Its not a HT chip its only manufactured by HT, all the tech is from the other company. If the chip had HT tech in it and was in an undisclosed mod it would be nice to know but it doesnt. Hypothetically if Wismec is having HT produce there proprietary chip is it going to make the releaux suddenly desireable?
I think we can give up on any new devices. All I hear from them on any social media is how great their batteries are. I just hope they continue to update the mods they have out.
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They heard the hohmtech chip is in other mods but due to contracts they aren't able to say which. Also, the manufacture doesn't disclose it's hohmtech's chip either.
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Yes it would. Actually. Personally I like the Wismec chip just not the quality of the rest of their mods. But it's not wismec.
Either way the chip would be designed by hohmtech not the other company.
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Nothing would make Wismec desirable IMHO...
If they are not going to upgrade the firmware anymore, at least release the source code to the community. There are many excellent ARM Cortex programmers out there.
Go back and read what the HT rep said, he said they were producing the chips for the other company to the other companies specs because HT had better QC. They arent designing/engineering it, just producing it
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Slight difference between them, but one thing they have in common is neither of them mean is design/engineer
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Producing can surely mean designing engineering and sending off for manufacturing. For example apple doesn't manufacture their phones. They produce them. They design them and hire Foxconn to manufacture them.
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I actually dug up the exact quote form hohmtech
So they say they make the chip, remove the FSK markings, change to a 3 button config, and remove the EPT technology.
does that mean the 3 undisclosed devices that have the fsk chip could very well TC A1 wire? or is it safe to assume they remove that feature because the big 3 can't hang ten with programming it to do TC on A1 wire?
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no. They remove that out of the board
Assuming the chip is as good as you guys say it is. I wonder why companies wouldn't want people to know it's in their mod? I can't imagine a company using a Yihi 350, 450, 550J or a DNA250 chip and not wanting people to know. It would be a selling point. It doesn't really make a whole helluva a lot of sense to me. Does it make any sense to you guys?
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maybe it's in a piece of crap rx2/3 or 200s lol I wouldn't want to admit a piece of hardware with my name in a jalopy
It's not HT that doesn't want you to know. It's the buying company that doesn't want you to know because they're probably marketing it as a proprietary board. Conversly, if they said it did Kanthal TC everyone would know it's an FSK Board since even the often heralded over hyped DNA can't TC Kanthal.
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thats a good question for sure. My best guess would be that the company itself wants to claim the chip as it's own and i probably buying them much cheaper without all the bells and whistles that make the FSK so good. In the same sense that the yihi chips sold to P4U aren't as good as the one's YiHi puts in their own mods. Plus the FSK chip doesn't carry the same weight that DNA and YiHi do. I'm really surprised that vaporshark went with a wismec chip device. I feel like a vaporshark FSK mod would be killer
And hear is the rest of what he said.
Oh, to touch on #6 a little more, the chips we're doing for the few we do build for, are built 100% to their firmware layout/specifications. Why did they seek us out versus going with Yihi, Evolv, or another?...our pricing is competitive, and our defect rate is a fraction of what competitors rate is (under 1% within first 90 days of ownership, and under 1.6% for first year of ownership). Numbers may be skewed as some owners may not report a defect and/or haven't owned device full year which we know immediately upon connecting device to our software (reports in software: internal use only serial number, date of first power on, # of times fired, average wattage used, peak wattage used, average ohm, lowest ohm, highest ohm, average duration of vape, max duration of vape, and a bit more data).
So this is what you call engineered by HT and not just simply manufactured by HT? Doesnt seem like they engineered any of it to me
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it's built to their specs doesn't mean not engineered. If i call them up and say build me a 100 watt board with TC modes for SS, NI, and Ti using TCR values. make it for a single battery. Then i design it based on those specs, have it manufactured and sell them in bulk to them that would be following suit.
Hohmtech as far as i know doesn't have a manufacturing plant. Thats why their boxes say designed in California, manufactured in Indonesia. (IIRC) Also the battery plant where they have the batteries manufactured that they designed is also in Indonesia so I can safely assume they use a manufacutring company over there. Same way for instance Sony engineers and designs a PS4 in Japan, but it's manufactured by foxconn in china. It's normal business. Most manufacturing is done in countries with low wages to keep cost down.
If hohmtech was just a manufacturing plant for these companies it makes no sense as they could get it manufactured much cheaper going directly to china companies like foxconn
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whats lol? that's not really a good way to have a conversation.
Sony doesn't manufacture the PS4, apple doesn't manufacture the iphone. Both of them are manufactured by foxconn. and the parts in them are from other companies. for example sony works with AMD on a custom APU which is then sent to foxconn for assembly along with the other parts (casing, power supply, optical drive, etc)
As far as we know, hohmtech has no manufacturing plant. So the idea of a company doing all the design work and sending them what to manufacture seems farfetched. How many companies do you know of in china that send plans to the USA for manufacture? It's always the other way around. Most countries send their stuff to china for manufacturing.
HT says they build them 100% to the customers firmware, layout and specs, where did the customer come up with the firmware, layout, and specs of a chip that hadnt yet been made? Its irrelevant, I really dont care, go ahead and believe what you want.
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they get it from hohmtech? do you not understand R&D? Or custom box mods?
they are built to customers spec but the company does the design and they go back and forth
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Hohm designed/buys/out sources a great chip. Do I believe at this point they are selling to other makers, no. Why? If I had a successful product that was being bought and used by someone else, I would make damn sure my customer base ogre knew. The more mods thus customer makes and sells x the more chips I sell. The more we each sell the more money we both make. Win win.
Otoh, if I was completely getting out of that end and focusing on something else, say batteries, I would want to get rid of my excess stock. In order to keep up appearance of still being in that end I would come up with some story about selling my product to other makers without ever namiing them.
Of course I could just have a bad taste in my mouth for hohm and vapor cube right now, after they refuse to make right their error, except at my cost.
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Otoh, if I was completely getting out of that end and focusing on something else, say batteries, I would want to get rid of my excess stock. In order to keep up appearance of still being in that end I would come up with some story about selling my product to other makers without ever namiing them.
Of course I could just have a bad taste in my mouth for hohm and vapor cube right now, after they refuse to make right their error, except at my cost.
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Yeah my blue one I ordered came with v1.6.6 too but I just went to hohm techs website and updated it no problem. Just download the right drivers. Good luck!
Most of the tech is their software, that's where the magic is happening.
The hardware is a bit special, it's efficient and can read really low resistances.
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Im with ya, then this will be easy to nail down, the G2 fires down to .007 but that would be a dead giveaway so they would change that, so lets say .05 since a few boxes already fire that low its a safe number to use and we can maintain the firing low scenario, so what newer mods fire kanthal at .05 and also tc tungsten?
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snow wolf fires to .05 in power mode IIRC but i don't think it does TC for tungston
I'd like to actually see the G2 fire a 0.007Ω build. I've put a 0.01Ω build on it and received the OHM RESTRICTED error but I did get a 0.03Ω build to fire at 15W.
The 0.007Ω has to be a R&D testing spec. The minimum that the G2 will fire at is 10W, and a 0.007Ω coil would draw 38A at that power level.
I know @raymo2u has fired it pretty low but I can't remember at what resistance.
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My wrecker has been abused daily...Pulsing .06 ohms and under just about every day since I got it...Well over a year now. It will fire anything...I mean anything, I've pulsed some builds that I even thought were dangerous (.02-.03 ohms) but it pulsed them without a sweat, but I do stress that you always use HB6 cells when pulsing under .09.I know @raymo2u has fired it pretty low but I can't remember at what resistance.
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Anyone know of any sites that are reputable with the g2 in stock?
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I just watched Vic's review of the woody vapes X200. It temp controls nichrome...isn't the fsk chip the only thing that does that? Therefore, if that's the case then I believe that the fsk chips are going to be running in the woody vapes mods. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I don't want to spread false rumors.
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Some others claim to do nichrome. I know the battlestar claims it but I don't use nichrome so couldn't test.
FSK also does kenthal and mixed metals So like Fused clapton with an SS core and Nichrome wraps. Not aware of any other mod that does those 2
No, but hohmtech didn't seem like they wanted to market it as their chip when they responded here. Maybe they are waiting till a later date. Like I said tho, I could be way out in left field. The nichrome TC and where it was designed I'm California I'd all I was going on really.
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well the FDA regs put a damper on them for sure. but the kanthal TC was way more of a selling point then the nichrome. kanthal is still the most used wire overall.
I'm not sure what you mean by they didn't market it as their chip?
They seemed like, to me anyway, when they were in here commenting before xmas about them making chips for other mod makers that they didn't want people to know that it was their chip being used in said mods. I agree that kanthal tc was the major selling point but if another mod came out right now with it then we would all know who made the chip, most likely. If they release it later on as a firmware update then it will be less noticeable but the word will still get out and in return sell more mods for said (or rather, unsaid) manufacturers down the road.