So you base the future of the republic on vaping...not on protection of the voters, not on gun control,trade, the influence of the banks on the political class not on a witch who is a war criminal, and is trying to start a war with Russia,..but on vaping...Jesus wept....Gary Johnson has built his wealth on illegal immigrants..he built his wealth on breaking the law, and hiring illegals and displacing American workers....he is just a chamber of commerce asshole republican who smokes herbal mix.....wow how revolutionary...a dimwit who uses one of the most banal drugs there is.....Gary Johnson is not Ron Paul.
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Um, that's what the wall is for. To not let them back in.
Advocating that they be killed is not just extreme, it's taking a ride on the crazy train.
Aside from that, I find it hilarious that you think illegal aliens should be killed but at the same time say that it isn't really so important that you'd vote for a guy that will do nothing at all about them. Your logic is illogical. It's ridiculous.
Dude, vaping is way more important than illegal aliens.
Besides, we can just lock the illegals in a room and gas them with our clouds. LOL.
I guess I ride the crazy train too,
I think anyone caught sneaking back into this country should be executed. If you can't do it legally, then we should drop your flesh back as fertilizer back into your home country.
War is hell, remember? And this is a war, even if we want to pretend it isn't.
I think anyone caught sneaking back into this country should be executed. If you can't do it legally, then we should drop your flesh back as fertilizer back into your home country.
War is hell, remember? And this is a war, even if we want to pretend it isn't.
What war? The war on drugs? Last I checked we were in cahoots with the enemy (fast and furious) and anyone who believes holders excuse for that treason should have their heads checked.
War on terror? Some the worst terrorist in the game are on the CIA pay roll. Seems like the only war the US government is fighting is a domestic one against the freedom and liberties of their own citizens.
I honestly don't see trump causing anything but trouble. He knows all those things he's says that some say are outlandish and others common sense is just lip service to his base. If by some miracle he becomes president, at the end of the day if he wants to get anything through he will have to compromise and that will mean giving up the pipe dreams about immigration.
But what are we even arguing for? Everyone just needs to lay down and accept that Hilary will be the next president. If she can't steal the whole enchilada through continued vote rigging, she'll just off trump. If there is one thing we know about killary it's that she much prefers the bullet over the ballot.
It's the war on our economy. I don't expect people to understand that. Most people only pay attention to the talking points of whatever dimwit in the media they follow. Be it Beck, fox news, the liberal media, or maybe even Jones.
With the exception of the wall, which would need congressional approval, the laws already exist to deport illegal immigrants. All Trump has to do is issue an executive order to enforce the laws.
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that Trump can build a wall on his own. But having a President that is willing, is far better than than having one that is not. I can vote for one President, one Senator, and one Congresscritter. That's the end of my influence.
Hop on your horse cowboy and get to shooting.
I'll have no hand in killing people that I can just send home.
Hi ho Silver, away!
P.S. YOU can't send them away, nor will they leave willingly. Ask LaRiza what they think.
I have guts enough to do what is necessary to ensure my safety and survival. Don't really care what other people think.
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Awww. I bet you escort spiders outdoors when they invade your home.
When vermin won't leave, they have to be dealt with as efficiently as possible. And if they are here illegally, they are vermin; we should not have to support them, nor continuously give them a ride back home. They get one ride, then they get dead. As efficiently and mercifully as possible, certainly, but if they won't take a fucking hint, we don't want people that stupid here anyway, we've got enough stupid people of our own without taking all the third worlds' too.
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Unless you're posting from prison or you're a damn good serial killer, YOU ain't out there killing illegals either.
Well.... I'm not in prison........Unless you're posting from prison or you're a damn good serial killer, YOU ain't out there killing illegals either.
Use your imagination beyond that however you want.
P.S. Are those in the military serial killers too, in your opinion? How about cops who shoot people?
Oh, shut the fuck up. You won't even vote to deport them, let alone kill anyone. Your Gary Johnson says to even call them "illegal" is offensive.
So while you talk a big game, you won't back it up. You think vaping is more important.
LOL. Wanna show me the military or cops shooting people as they cross the border?
They don't generally shoot people that pose no physical threat. They arrest them.
I think I have a better chance at getting them deported than you do of getting them killed. Good luck finding that candidate. Maybe you can borrow the Philippines President. Or Kim Jong Il.
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If we stopped supporting them (either by illegally putting them to work, or outright via "benefits"), I think most of them would decide to leave of their own free will.
You may regard them as vermin, but they are still human beings, and I cannot see how it's morally justifiable to kill another human being for what is essentially the crime of trespassing.
Know what collateral damage is? The military finds that acceptable. (as do I) Lots of people get killed in the fight, that have nothing to do with the fight.
There have been LOTS of documented cases of no knocks that have been served on the wrong address, and people and their pets killed. Wasn't that long ago a man was choked to death, even though he was unarmed and not fighting, being accused of selling smokes without a "proper permit". The cops were not jailed for it.
Lol. How many instances do YOU need to see, to realize killing people is not murder. Even if those people are unarmed.
Only the strong and bold survive. Might DOES make right in this world.
In many states, you do have the right to shoot trespassers.
You think you could pull this in another country and them equate this to "trespassing"? LMAO. Sure..... Many countries would shoot you as a "spy".
Um, we're not talking about collateral damage or police mistakes.
You're talking about killing illegal aliens for a misdemeanor. That's a bit different then accidental deaths, dontcha think?
Not in a single State do you have the right to shoot trespassers. You've watched too many Dirty Harry movies.
In some States it is legal to defend your property from theft or destruction, but not simple trespassing. You can ask them to leave, nicely or not, or call the police and they'll make them leave or arrest them. If you shoot somebody for simply trespassing, you'll go to jail.
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Agreed, if illegal immigrants could not support themselves and/or their families, there would be no point in coming. Unfortunately, the jobs they are taking at the wages they are being paid (still minimum or above, at least in my area) are jobs that American laborers do not want. Prime example, I can hire a day laborer for $100 for the (8 hour) day to sweep off my roof, clean my gutters, stack wood, rake and bag leaves, etc. Or, I can hire a "gutter professional" who won't sweep the roof, stack wood, or rake and bag. He'll only be there a couple of hours, and do the same job the day laborer would do in the gutters for $75-150 (individual working for himself) to upwards a $300 minimum (company). Now, I'm sorry, but this is menial labor that requires no education, talent, or skill, surely it's not worth $37.50-200/hour, is it? Even at the low end the American laborer in my area is expecting $78k annually for menial labor. That is an absolutely insane expectation that borders on an anti-capitalist, communistic society. We, as a nation, have become incredibly confused with the differences between want and need, between right and luxury.
Negative. If you stop the welfare for those Americans that won't do that type of work, they'd find a way to make themselves do it, or they can starve with the illegals.
You would have been a great slave owner ..too bad you are a few centuries to late,but hey you and Gary Johnson could go to maylasia,after all the TPP Gary supports was allowed an exemption to continue slavery in order to join the TPP...I don't know what level of entitlement you feel is owed you,but in a capitalist system you pay what the market will bear ..ILLEGALLY allowing 25 million workers to flood the labor market is nothing more than you manipulating the market in order to give folks like you cheap labor to do the kind of work YOU don't want to do...do not clump all Americans in with you,many many Americans do dirty low paying jobs ..always have...besides I could easily find someone to do your job for a quarter of the price I fail to see what is so special about you that you feel your fucking job is so special it can't be done by somebody else from India or China for a quarter of what you get paid, and yet you look down your nose on how other people earn their bread and claim them to be expendable and that you are exempt from supply and demand, and your entitled ass doesn't feel it should have to pay some peon more than what you see fit....and if the peon won't work for what you deem is fair, well hell you just ignore the law and ILLEGALLY flood the country with cheap labor so your massive talents and intellect can be free to pursue more socially valuable pursuits such as your x box and Internet porn.....all these fucks who say Americans won't do those jobs you are all fucking liars...what you mean to say it YOU won't do those jobs and you won't pay what the market bears to have someone else do those jobs.....I love to hear some asshole who never raised a callouse on his hands talk about how soft American workers are.
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Fuck that noise..you want to go around shooting people...shoot people like Gary Johnson who hires these people...shoot the employers who make the whole scheme possible,who are the reason they are here...shoot the DNC who steal nominations from their American voters and w ant to give amnesty so their party can control the country for the next 100 years by buying votes with amnesty....shoot the people who feel the citizens don't have a right to self determination,the citizens don't have a right to the laws they enact,the citizens don't have a right to a republic shoot them and if you have any bullets left over ...go to the range.
THis bullshit narrative that illegals are like the Christ child fleeing into eygpt is horseshit for the stupid....nobody is starving in Mexico,Mexico is the richest country in Latin America it has the largest number of billionaires on the planet....these people come here for upward mobility..to earn money here and be able to go back to Mexico and own homes and business and land...not to buy beans and rice...anyone who thinks illegals are mainly working in agriculture are woefully ignorant...Mexico is sending welders,electricians,heavy equipment operators, Mexico City is a huge modern city if you think their skilled labor is not heading north for good wages you are insane...but the upward mobility that Mexicans want is being bought on the the backs of stealing upward mobility from the American worker whose upward mobility is being destroyed because of a flood in the labor market....yes I have nothing but contempt for a Mexican who violate the laws of a free people, I have contempt for people who send million and millions to violate the wishes and freely elected laws of another sovereign nation,but I have more contempt for the American traitors who make it possible
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There's absolutely nothing illegal about paying above minimum wage to an immigrant to do a job an American born individual doesn't want to do (as long as you file taxes and withholding). Where the market needs talent and skill and knowledge and experience, the employable pool will be necessarily smaller, and therefore worth more. I am employed at the level I am because you can not find someone to take quarter wage who has the same experience, knowledge, talent, and skill.
You have no clue who I am and no clue what work I will and won't do, what I have and haven't done. I can say that I worked a just above minimum menial job while going to college. I walked in industrial metal grating non-stop for 7½ a day, every day, 100ºF in the summer, 50ºF in the winter, hands covered in grease, grime, dust, and dirt. I can tell you that most of the people I worked with had the attitude of, "I ain't busting my ass for $4.75," and became angry when I busted my ass anyway. This was probably 1990 or so. I can also tell you that I was promoted over all of them, increasing my salary by half in a position with more responsibility, and given my own location to run in a managerial position, all within a couple of years, tripling my starting salary.
Clearly, I was willing to accept that starting salary as a fair wage for a menial job. Clearly, I did have those callouses on hands, knuckles, feet. Clearly, I still think fair is fair and that unskilled, uneducated, untalented, menial labor does not deserve more compensation than is fair given the supply and demand of the employment market. Basic human rights are shelter, sustenance, and care. If an individual does not have the desire or wherewithal to pursue something better within the employment market by striving above and beyond positions that can be filled by, literally, any worker, they are entitled to no more from society than they give, basic rights for basic work. Luxuries such as smart phones, laptops, cable television, private internet access, expensive clothing, jewelry and toiletries, and so on, are just that, luxuries. The basic premise of capitalism is then fulfilled. Want more? Do more. Get more.
And for the record, I grew up dirt poor in Bushwick, Brooklyn. One box of macaroni and cheese for three boys was not an uncommon dinner. One can of deviled ham split the same way was not an uncommon lunch. Everything I am and have I have worked for, with no help from anyone but myself. So, you might want to rethink prejudging someone as an "entitled ass" based upon their opinions.
That Americans will not perform menial labor for fair wage is not a secret nor an opinion:
"Six hours was enough, between the 6 a.m. start time and noon lunch break, for the first wave of local workers to quit. Some simply never came back and gave no reason. Twenty-five of them said specifically, according to farm records, that the work was too hard. On the Harold farm, pickers walk the rows alongside a huge harvest vehicle called a mule train, plucking ears of corn and handing them up to workers on the mule who box them and lift the crates, each weighing 45 to 50 pounds."
So pretty much about as strenuous as pulling, carrying, moving drums, alternators, starters, etc. all day long non-stop.
This was repeated across farms and states. The farmer in question was FORCED to hire immigrant labor (at $10.25/hour, five years ago) even though he complied and advertised across three states. These same stories were repeated across farms, across states.
The original article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/u...n-workers-in-place-of-migrant-labor.html?_r=0
Wow a you worked Summer's with the proles...and that gives you a real insight into the lives of people who do it for 20 or 30 years....do you have a clue as to what an ass you look like with your little summer job bullshit story and your...let them eat cake attitudes....people don't want fucking jobs...they want work that will allow them upward mobility...your little anecdotal homolies didn't even begin to address the bigger issues, and they are ridiculous compared to the reality of what people are going through,and most importantly you totally ignored the issue of Legality..wow your were poor and you realized the way to get rich and for you to keep a bigger slice of the pie was to bend a few rules...and I don't care what you do for a living I could get a oil tanker and fill it with graduates of schools in India and China and with the promise of a green card I could replace your skinny ass for a quarter of what you are getting paid...what world do you live in...Americans will not preform menial labor for a fair wage...first off what the fuck is menial labor...and who died and made you a God..the market decides what is fair not some delusional twat who thinks his little get of jail card from the diploma mills places him above the market...if you break the law and hire illegals then don't ask society to protect you if that same illegal or anyone else puts a knife to your throat and jacks your wallet...after all you should get of your entitled ass and protect yourself. THis isn't an issue of working hard to get ahead this is an issue of entire industries being gutted to nothing more than migrant work....by the illegal flooding of cheap labor ....here's a newsflash if people won't work for what you pay you have to pay more...it's called capitalism.you have to compete for workers you are not entitled to workers.
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So, you think we should support them, when they're here illegally? Because that's what putting them in jail means. I don't have a problem with escorting them back home, the first time they're caught here... but how many rides do we have to give them? That costs a lot, too. I say, one free ride home, and they don't take the hint and get caught over here again? They deserve whatever they get, which should be one bullet. Or one injection if we're gonna be all merciful. It is not our job to keep them in prison, or keep taking them back home.
They *could* always seek to enter via legal means. Saves a lot of hassle for everybody.
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Your ignorance at this point is astounding. Your prejudice and bias towards me is equally inexplicable.
I started working when I was 12 to support the household. I have been employed every single day of my life since. I started with a paper route, added working hauling organic garbage part time spring, fall, and winter, full time summer when I was 15, moved on to retail at 17, then food service from 18 until I was 23, the the job mentioned above until I was 25. 13 years dude, of hard, physical work. To help my family, and to help myself. Why? So I wouldn't be sitting here, now, wringing my hands and lamenting the sad state of the job market, that's why. So when I had kids, they wouldn't have to wear Salvation Army jeans and $1.99 sneakers.
I broke no rules, I broke no laws. I took opportunities that were presented and main my own opportunities when none presented themselves.
Again, my position is not replaceable by some code monkey from India or China. We've outsourced, the work quality we require is not available from those sources at the wages you suggest.
If you don't know the definition of menial, you obviously have internet access, look it up. See? Take the opportunities, and make them for yourself when they're not presented.
My "diploma mill" paper means jack all. I went to school to become a psychiatrist, realized the mental health industry, and it is an industry, is totally screwed up, and went back to what I knew. When I was 13 or so, I bought my first computer, I taught myself programming. That's what I do, and it has nothing to do with my formal education.
Who said I hire illegal immigrants? I didn't, that's for sure, because I don't. My lawn guy might, I honestly don't know because I'm not in the habit of asking those I contract to provide me with papers for all of their employees.
Protect myself. Yeah. Imagine that, a skinny, book smart kid from Bushwick would never have to do that, would he? Especially not taking the L and J after midnight to get home. Nah, that kid was some entitled, privileged snot who probably got chauffeured around in mommy and daddy's non-existent car and never had to face real inner city realities.
Delusional. Projection.
There is a huge difference between the words "entitled" and "earned".
Hilarious. The gutter guy, who has a BUSINESS, that demands he make X in order to pay overheads and all expenses, is a jackass because he needs to make a profit to stay in business. You are ONE customer of MANY that he has to have, to keep him in business.
But you think some criminal is the better choice to toss crumbs at. The guy who ISN"T going to pay taxes, and at the same time, collects every government handout he can steal.
Look around. It isn't the 50's and 60's anymore. Inflation has outpaced wages. It costs money for everything. If money is such a concern, just do the damn job yourself!
Or are you really prepared to cough up the money for the hospital bill when your criminal worker get hurt on your property? The answer to that is no. I already know.
It just blows my mind here, how some people just think these criminals, are just "good people" and mean us no harm.
But you think some criminal is the better choice to toss crumbs at. The guy who ISN"T going to pay taxes, and at the same time, collects every government handout he can steal.
Look around. It isn't the 50's and 60's anymore. Inflation has outpaced wages. It costs money for everything. If money is such a concern, just do the damn job yourself!
Or are you really prepared to cough up the money for the hospital bill when your criminal worker get hurt on your property? The answer to that is no. I already know.
It just blows my mind here, how some people just think these criminals, are just "good people" and mean us no harm.
Actually, the gutter guy that charges $375 is not in business any more, he priced himself out of the market. And the one who charges $75 is facing stiff competition from the ones who charge $40. But back to the $375 guy... he works out of his home. His overhead is paying his employees, which, and oh, you'll love this, mostly don't speak a single word of English, and may or may not be "legal". I know how much they make, same as I would pay them, $12.50/hr. So the "owner" of that business pockets $350 for sitting on his backside. Yeah, no wonder he's gone.
I know a lot more native borns collecting a lot more handouts because "they can't find jobs". So is there really a difference? Oh, yeah, the non-tax-paying alien is being more productive than the non-tax-paying native born. You do know that illegal immigrants don't get benefits, right? And it really makes no difference to me which human leech is not paying their medical bills. They're both human beings, whether they were born on this piece of geography with an imaginary dividing line or that one really doesn't make a difference to where my taxes go. I should have some national loyalty to a m*th overdose over a non-national five year old with chicken pox? That makes absolutely zero sense.
If money is a concern and you're stuck in a minimum wage job, improve your position, or work another job. This isn't anything I, and my parents before me, haven't done. Both of my parents held two jobs each at some point in their lives while raising us, and so did I when saving for college.
How do I deal with a Trump supporter?
Well ya can't kill em although it would be an act of mercy.
Well ya can't kill em although it would be an act of mercy.
LOL, see, now I was going to say at least you can thank them for not voting for the other lunatic.
Actually, it sounds like you don't have a clue about running a business. I own one, and run one. For 75 or 40 dollars you are hiring a HACK that is uninsured. Industry standard for pricing starts at $1 a FOOT for gutter, and it goes up from there. You'll find out about what a hack is good for, when they get hurt on your property. Or when they damage your property. Because it does happen.
You may be fooled into thinking illegals can't draw welfare, but there are loopholes and they do abuse them. You can be soft on illegals all you want. At the end of the day, they are criminals and they ARE draining our resources. Facts are facts.
Your life story keeps making less and less sense. You were so poor you could only split ONE box of mac and cheese between 3 of you kids. Yet both parents are working two jobs, you are working too, and affording a computer?
I really don't care at this point. What you keep saying, makes no rational sense. From your life growing up, to your lack of business understanding, to your view of criminals and what is ACTUALLY happening. You just don't have the facts, OR you are living in an altered reality.
You may be fooled into thinking illegals can't draw welfare, but there are loopholes and they do abuse them. You can be soft on illegals all you want. At the end of the day, they are criminals and they ARE draining our resources. Facts are facts.
Your life story keeps making less and less sense. You were so poor you could only split ONE box of mac and cheese between 3 of you kids. Yet both parents are working two jobs, you are working too, and affording a computer?
I really don't care at this point. What you keep saying, makes no rational sense. From your life growing up, to your lack of business understanding, to your view of criminals and what is ACTUALLY happening. You just don't have the facts, OR you are living in an altered reality.
Think I will write myself in this time.....
Of course you can't. We keep our guns to make sure.
You are so full of shit if you think I can't go to India tommorrow and have your job replaced by an Indian...they are not code monkey they produce an abundance of every strata of higher education you really flatter yourself.or are you so provincial and so unsophisticated you imagine India is full of snake charmers and yogis...I don't know what world you live in.....your story is in no way unique hell it isn't even interesting...every sleazy ass contractor who hires illegals can tell the same tale of woe,and rationalize his crimes the same way.. guess what I have more respect for some poor kid in the hood dealing,than I do some punk ass white kid who justifies the rape of the workers as being there fault.at least the kid dealing is straight up and tells you up front he is just looking after his own ass he doesn't tell you that other people deserve d to get screwed...you sure the hell are not very book smart,because this drama has been played out in American history before..if you knew jack shit about the history of labor and the labor wars you would know that....manifest destiny was not a mandate of the American people .it was the agenda of European bankers.and robber barons.and it left alof wreckage in its wake .. But this same push for eraseing the borders is the new manifest destiny on a global scale and it is being pushed by the same robber barons same bankers and half educated dimwits buy it as some Horatio Algers story....I got news for you everybody works hard and if you don't want to pay their rate don't hire them and do it yourself,but if you wanna justify breaking the laws in order to manipulate supply and demand that dog bites both ways.and don't bitch when some sleazy ass politican is able to sell the masses the idea that it is FAIR that your ass should be taxed at 80%...because that's where this train is headed....America has thrown its workers under the bus,so don't be surprised when they drag your ass down with them....I won't.....and by the way Horatio I have scars from working that older than you..tell me how many of the poor people you grew up with do you think support illegal immigration...none...you are not exceptional most poor people work hard,and they will continue to...IF...they see a way out of poverty they will work their asses off,but if there is no chance for upward mobility(book smart boy)...if you open a history book.....if there is no chance for upward mobility you get revolution.....you get dumbs shits behind gates wondering what the fuck all these poor people are doing at their gates with torches and pitchforks.....in short you get the third fucking world.
Get real how's a Hilary supporter going to kill them ...none of the Hilary supporters own guns...what are you gonna do kill them all by spitting at them from your safe spaces......
How exactly can one be a "hack" at removing all debris from a gutter? It's either clean, or it's not. I have easy clean toppers, so there's very little to actually do. FWIW, I clean my own gutters, because the going rate average of $225 for two hours or less from a bonded company is thoroughly ridiculous. And their workers still only make barely above minimum, with no benefits.
I'm not soft on illegals at all. But I do support the right of individuals who are not native to come into this country legally to work. Our natives are not doing, and don't want to do, the jobs. And without the migrant workers in the case of farming, we have no food. Of course, we could just import more from Chile, and then no Americans get paid.
Shorthand stories that lack chronology rarely do make sense. Before I started working, yeah, there were many nights where dinner was mac and cheese. Other popular dinners were a half pound of chopmeat, a box of elbow macaroni, and a can of tomato sauce. On the rare occasion that we had "steak", it was chuck.
My parents worked two jobs to save when the neighborhood started going from worse to worst. When the father down the street killed his daughter, that was the last straw and both of my parents really buckled down to save for a house. When I did start working, 75% went to the household, 25% to me. I grew a 60 paper route to 120 papers and was making $120/week with tips. I kept $30 of that and saved until I could afford a Vic20, which was, iirc, $300 at the time. With the monitor and such I think I was up to $450-500.
Then my parents ran into trouble making the mortgage about three years later and I started working hauling the rotting produce, when I got working papers and could get a "real job" to pitch in more.
At 17, I was working full time, year round. At 18 I started saving for college and pocketed 50% and kicked in 50%. By this time, both of my parents had moved up in their respective companies and no longer needed to funds, but it was practice for real life. My parents and younger brothers were pretty set when I was in my early twenties and I moved out, worked, went to school.
Anything else that "doesn't make sense", just ask instead of trying to insinuate that I'm lying.
I actually understand business very well, it's part of what we do, ledger, inventory, sales, AR, AP, purchasing, manufacturing, warehousing, full service ERP. I just don't want the headaches of running one. The company has been in business for 35 years and I've been there for almost 20. They hired me to bring them out of the DOS dark ages.
I'm not soft on illegals at all. But I do support the right of individuals who are not native to come into this country legally to work. Our natives are not doing, and don't want to do, the jobs. And without the migrant workers in the case of farming, we have no food. Of course, we could just import more from Chile, and then no Americans get paid.
Shorthand stories that lack chronology rarely do make sense. Before I started working, yeah, there were many nights where dinner was mac and cheese. Other popular dinners were a half pound of chopmeat, a box of elbow macaroni, and a can of tomato sauce. On the rare occasion that we had "steak", it was chuck.
My parents worked two jobs to save when the neighborhood started going from worse to worst. When the father down the street killed his daughter, that was the last straw and both of my parents really buckled down to save for a house. When I did start working, 75% went to the household, 25% to me. I grew a 60 paper route to 120 papers and was making $120/week with tips. I kept $30 of that and saved until I could afford a Vic20, which was, iirc, $300 at the time. With the monitor and such I think I was up to $450-500.
Then my parents ran into trouble making the mortgage about three years later and I started working hauling the rotting produce, when I got working papers and could get a "real job" to pitch in more.
At 17, I was working full time, year round. At 18 I started saving for college and pocketed 50% and kicked in 50%. By this time, both of my parents had moved up in their respective companies and no longer needed to funds, but it was practice for real life. My parents and younger brothers were pretty set when I was in my early twenties and I moved out, worked, went to school.
Anything else that "doesn't make sense", just ask instead of trying to insinuate that I'm lying.
I actually understand business very well, it's part of what we do, ledger, inventory, sales, AR, AP, purchasing, manufacturing, warehousing, full service ERP. I just don't want the headaches of running one. The company has been in business for 35 years and I've been there for almost 20. They hired me to bring them out of the DOS dark ages.
Hell with that #DA4P16, I'm writing in Tony Nevinksi. How bad can it be?
I have to correct you. Lots of 'em do own guns. But, they mostly just shoot each other.
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What a dipshit you are...I know lots of Indians. One is a nuclear phycisist so is his son, one teaches at an Ivy League university one is a doctor....yeah I'm pretty damn sure I can replace you with and Indian worker.
I stand corrected ...but I'm sure Robert isn't one of themI have to correct you. Lots of 'em do own guns. But, they mostly just shoot each other.
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Oh, you absolutely could, but not at quarter, or even half salary, as was suggested. No one is irreplaceable in business.
You just spent half a dozen post telling me I couldn't and they were all .....in your words code monkeys......so using your logic you are just a slacker and we should replace your trifling ass......and yeah I could get them for half of your rate..all I would have to do is offer them citizenship or a green card to sweeten the deal.
That's how the VA recruits Indian doctors. They have to work for the VA for so many years then they get citizenship. Only the best for the vets, lol.
May want to go back and read again, you can't and won't get the same quality work out of an outsourced or imported coder at quarter or half the price. Oh, you can hire them at that rate, sure, but you won't get the same work.
BTW, code monkey is jargon for an inexperienced coder and/or one without the required skills to the task. It has nothing to do with anything beyond that. I never said they were all code monkeys, just the ones you wanted to hire at quarter price.
LOL bullshit...so why is Disney replacing all its Tech workers with Indians,why is Facebook demanding more H1b visas, why is Bill Gates and all of the tech companies in Silican Valley telling the goverment t need more H1b visas...look I live within spitting distance of Silican valley and there are organizations of tech workers blowing the lid off of the scam Silicon Valley attempt to gut Americaans from the workforce where do you live under a rock.....let me get this straight any old pig farmer from Guatemala can replace an American worker at half the price, but little old you is irreplaceable for the same money......your delusional..or just dishonest.I know this sticks in your entitled craw,but this is a republic,and the voters get to make immigration policy,not a bunch of geeky little robber barons with delusional fantasy lives of their super powers.
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NEwsflash book smart boy...actually read the Constitution there is no ...right...for anybody to immigrate to. America...forgien nationals have zero rights to immigrate here...you support an individuals right who are not native .to come here to work.....This is not a nation of immigrants...this is a nation of citizens,and the citizens have the right under our constitution to create immigration policy,THe citizens are under no constitutional obligation to extend immigration to any one if they see fit nor are they under any obligation to seek permission from grubby little weasels who want their gutters cleaned for free.or construction companies and tech companies who want a larger profit margin.
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