How do you mix your e-juice

[herpist]

Hi all. So how do you all mix your diy e-juice. I'm very new to vaping and making my own juice and after watching a few tutorials on YouTube i noticed on the ones I watch they used a drill and a cotton wool bud cut 4 ways to make a propeller. Now this has probably been done before but I cut the end off a frothy coffee whizzer thingy

and using a glue gun stuck a cotton wool bud to the end of it. The same principle but more portable and fits in my e-juice box.
So how do you mix yours?

 

[AmandaD]

How much are you making at a time? With most of mine I mix by weight straight into the bottle and just shake it all up. Occasionally if I mix 4 ounces or more I do use a little milk frother (battery operated) I got from Ikea for a few seconds (and only a few seconds). Oh, and before that I used to just use a teaspoon (just like home cooking)!

I think people overcomplicate this

 

[herpist]

Only started today and have only made 30ml so far. So just a shake does the trick?
So what about leaving it to steep in a dark cupboard for a week, does that still need to be done?


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[AmandaD]

Only started today and have only made 30ml so far. So just a shake does the trick?
So what about leaving it to steep in a dark cupboard for a week, does that still need to be done?


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Just a good shake should be fine. It only needs steeping if you think it does! Most of mine are right immediately, but one or two benefit from waiting 2 or 3 days. Taste it and see!

 

[herpist]

Ok thanks I will do.


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[Huckleberried]

Shake and vape here.

 

[Teresa P]

The ones that taste good right away don't get steeped. The ones that don't do. That's my method and I'm sticking to it.

 

[lirruping]

Hey @AmandaD, this milk frother thing is coming up a lot lately! In another thread about this, you talked about accidentally oxidizing the mix by whizzing it up too much with the frother--or that this was a risk. I take for granted that oxidation of a nicotinated solution is not a process we want to hurry, but if the juice has no nicotine in it when the whiz-frothing is happening, is oxidation still something to avoid? I thought I had heard that forcing air throughout the mixture by vigorous shaking--making all those tiny air bubbles--was a good thing. But I really have no idea.

 

[AmandaD]

Oxidation only happens with nicotine!


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[MD_Boater]

I use syringes to put the ingredients in the bottle. Then, I float the bottle in about 2" of hot water in the sink to thin the VG a little. Then, I put it in my pants pocket for a couple of hours of "shaking" at 98.6 degrees. Works great.

 

[Heabob]

I just shake mine a bit and put it on the shelf for 24hrs usually.
If it's a Custard type it sits for 2 weeks min.
Can't be much simpler than that.

 

[raymo2u]

When I make juice I make 250ml at a time and I usually just shake it for a few minutes after bathing the container in hot water for 10 minutes, then let it sit for a night or 2 in the cupboard. Now when a few friends ask for some juice or I think I perfected a recipe I tend to make a bunch of it at once (Half Gallon). Irun hot water in the bathtub to heat it up then I use a small handheld whisker for 30 seconds to a minute then let it sit in the closet for 2 nights. This is similar o the whisker I use:

 

[Mattp169]

+1 for shake and vape. If it dont taste at least sort of good right away its probably not going to get much better down the road, although it could. Some flavors do get different over time and its important to know that

for example I discovered FA whiskey weakens a bit over time. SO I take that into account with my mixes. There is some ingredient in HIC's 3 milky musketeers I think cocoa or chocolate that tastes better after a few days, but still tastes great right away. Many say tobacco flavors need to steep and can taste totally different after a few days to a few weeks. I havent done a tobacco flavor in DIy and havent even used one in years form a store so I can not comment form personal experience, just from what Ive read.

Here's how I find out if steeping helps

Once you have a flavor you like, make a couple 30-60ml bottles up. By the time you use the second one it has steeped. ANd you will know if steeping helped. If you forget the taste of it fresh, no problem remix the flavor up in a small batch of 5-10ml real quick and compare.

In my experience fruit flavors do not change,over time. waiting to see if FA black licorice tastes different after a few days,

Sometimes steeping does help with very complex blends as well, say 5+ totally different ingredients. It allows then to mix fully and blend together more.Which i think is the case with HIC's 3 milky musketeers.

Plus steeping isnt the only thing that can change your flavors. different watts, different temps, different coil types and resistances,and wicking materials all can mute or amplify certain flavors

 

[Mattp169]

When I make juice I make 250ml at a time and I usually just shake it for a few minutes after bathing the container in hot water for 10 minutes, then let it sit for a night or 2 in the cupboard. Now when a few friends ask for some juice or I think I perfected a recipe I tend to make a bunch of it at once (Half Gallon). Irun hot water in the bathtub to heat it up then I use a small handheld whisker for 30 seconds to a minute then let it sit in the closet for 2 nights. This is similar o the whisker I use:

Ok what type of container are you using to make a half gallon that you can fit that mixer inside it?

 

[OhioRuss]

Any batch 30ml or larger and more than 2 flavors, gets put in an appropriate sized glass container and gets my magnetic stir plate for 3-4 minutes. This doesn't oxygenate or put air bubbles in.. just a good thorough mix and blending. It cuts a week off of my custard/vanilla steep times.

 

[raymo2u]

Ok what type of container are you using to make a half gallon that you can fit that mixer inside it?

I use a Pitcher Same one I use to make Kool-Aid and other juices in....

 

[Mattp169]

I use a Pitcher Same one I use to make Kool-Aid and other juices in....

wow. I have so many comments formulating in my mind over that. But you know what your doing

Ill just keep with mixing straight into my assortment of 15,30, and 50ml bottles

 

[herpist]

So why is it bad to oxygenate the mixture


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[raymo2u]

wow. I have so many comments formulating in my mind over that. But you know what your doing

Ill just keep with mixing straight into my assortment of 15,30, and 50ml bottles

I didnt mean the pitcher is also used for kool-aid, its just the same exact pitcher...Its not a "clean room" or juice for sale so no worries

 

[Mattp169]

I didnt mean the pitcher is also used for kool-aid, its just the same exact pitcher...Its not a "clean room" or juice for sale so no worries

Well if you drink the kool aid first then mix a complimentary vape flavor, you never know what could happen...

 

[raymo2u]

Well if you drink the kool aid first then mix a complimentary vape flavor, you never know what could happen...

I think that would give a whole new meaning to Vape Pairing

 

[OhioRuss]

So why is it bad to oxygenate the mixture

It is not bad per se. But as far as the nicotine in your liquid, oxygen and heat can change not only the color and the flavor, but the peppery-ness of it as well I haven't personally seen it yet in any of my batches as my nicotine is only 6 weeks old and none of my >30ml creations last more than a week or two. If I am not using a premixed base (pg/vg/nic), I mix everything without nic and nic it up prior to vaping.

 

[herpist]

Cool, thanks OhioRuss. Pre-making batches without the nicotine is a good idea which I shall be using but at the moment I'm just making 10ml bottles of juice to find out what flavours I like best.

 

[PickNic Basket]

Shaking by hand, vortex mixer, magnetic stirrer.
Depends on how much, how thick, and the ingredients.
But really, for small amounts, a hand shake is sufficient.

 

[MichelleTearsofCrimson]

bought a vortex mixer with the center that you stick a tube in to vibrate. How long do you use this for and do I still need to do an ultrasonic to steep? Sorry but maybe I should have asked all this BEFORE I bit the bullet and bought the mixer LOL

 

[Chrispdx]

I havnt used a mixer yet in terms of a frother, ultrasonic, and so on. I heat steep sometimes (crock pot) or shake...mostly shake. Especially for a new diy'er the shake method is good. I do use a sawzall to shake when I first mix...but I do that so my hands don't get tired because I mix 4-8 15ml 30 ml bottles at a time.

The biggest recomendation when new is use what you have on hand when starting out. Dave the money. Then when you have enough flavorings and supplies after you 2nd or 3rd shopping trip and you have money again then look at investing in some of the cool told our veterans have. But in a lot of cases our vets are making bigger batches.

 

[PickNic Basket]

bought a vortex mixer with the center that you stick a tube in to vibrate. How long do you use this for and do I still need to do an ultrasonic to steep? Sorry but maybe I should have asked all this BEFORE I bit the bullet and bought the mixer LOL

Keep your same steeping process with this mixer. It is just allowing you to mix more easily mix very thoroughly. 5-10 seconds using the vortex mixer will mix better than you would with several minutes of hand shaking. You will actually see the vortex in the bottle.

As far as steeping, it depends. I mix bottles with a vortex mixer. Many are shake & vape; others will be left to steep for various times. The mixer doesn't change that IMO.

 

[MD_Boater]

I let my mixes sit in hot tap water for about 2 minutes to thin them out, and then shake them for 30 seconds. Done. Sometimes, I just put the bottle in my front pants pocket before I go to work and let it 'pocket steep' at 98.6 degrees all day. I haven't mixed one that needed more than one work shift to be fully steeped yet.