I am new(ish) to vaping and I need some guidance!

[Tarthibaim]

Warning, long read, but I feel it is worth it.

I got into vaping at the beginning of 2015 with a cheap vape pen kit from a gas station, wow what a way to start. I quickly found this was something I like and wanted to give a better shot. I went to a local vape shop and after shortly speaking with some staff they suggested the Aspire Atlantis and the eLeaf iStick 50w.

I will mention that I only socially smoked cigarettes and was not coming to vaping as a means of coming off of smoking. I simply, in a kind of weird way, like the act of vaping. I like blowing thick clouds and just the act. I had no idea what I was doing and felt like this was a good starter. (I still have no idea what I am doing btw) I used this setup for quite some time and recently made a small change by purchasing a Tobecco Super Tank. I was unsatisfied with the performance so I went out recently and purchased a Smok Alien kit, 220w. I like this setup better, but my question is, I am wanting to get great flavor and thick clouds.

What can I change? Or, better yet, what SHOULD I change, if anything? I get pretty good vapor production with my current, new, setup, but I feel like I am still not getting this luscious flavor that I read about. I get good flavor, but I feel like I can still taste the strain of the coil. On my previous setup I was not made aware that coils burnt out as quickly as they did, granted you are hitting often, which I do. Also, I was not aware of voltage limits of coils, and I wonder if I was pushing the limits of the coils in my previous setup. I am more aware of the limits of coils and am not outside of the printed limits of the coils in my current setup, which I will mention is completely stock out of the box. I have not made any changes to the original Alien kit.

I really enjoy vaping, and I am really interested in learning more and more so that I can make informed decisions when choosing equipment. I have turned to forums because I do not feel like I get the information that I need at my local vape shop. I feel like they are knowledgable, but it almost feels as if they are just giving quick suggestions to get me to buy something. I also have found that I paid almost double for this kit as to what I could have gotten it for online. Making me wish I had come to forums sooner so that I could have gotten some different, possibly better, advice.

Keep On Vaping,
Tarthibaim

 

[fraleywp]

Personally after I bought my first RDTA I only use regular tanks on the go. The flavor and clouds on an RDTA are amazing. I have a Smok Skyhook, iJoy limited classic and an Iron Maiden that I use regularly. I also have 2 RDAs but I rarely use those outside the house.

The best tank I have is the Smok TFV8. It's a good tank. They now have the TFV12 but I haven't bought one yet. I recently ordered a HorizonTech RTA because it was on sale for $30 off. Paid $9.99 for it. Should be here Monday. I ordered it from VaporDNA.

There are so many choices. If you require prebuilt coils the Smok coils are hard to beat. There are other alternatives though. I am sure others will chime in soon enough.

 

[Markw4mms]

It's hard for a tank to compete with an RDA or RDTA for flavor. If you're not into winding your own coils, you could consider something like the IJoy Combo RDTA that you can run either homemade or premade coils on, just change the deck.
https://www.elementvape.com/ijoy-combo-rdta-tank

 

[fraleywp]

The ijoy classic also has the same deck as the combo. Uses the same IMC coils.

 

[midknight420]

I use a Smok TFV8 as well. I am using a pair of fused claptons in the rba deck and the flavor and vapor production are outstanding.

If you prefer the premade coils, I personally find that the Q4 coil has a great balance of flavor and vapor production.

Also welcome to VU.

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[Tarthibaim]

I have never really considered RDA's or RTA's of any sort because it is kind of intimidating for me. I am just barely beginning to understand the general concepts and terminology, but to even consider something like that seems impossible for me.

So, there are premade coils for RDA'S and RDTA's? Or is that where the different decks come in? Then I use the same type of coils that I am using in my tanks now?

 

[fraleywp]

I have never really considered RDA's or RTA's of any sort because it is kind of intimidating for me. I am just barely beginning to understand the general concepts and terminology, but to even consider something like that seems impossible for me.

So, there are premade coils for RDA'S and RDTA's? Or is that where the different decks come in? Then I use the same type of coils that I am using in my tanks now?

There are some RDTAs with prebuilt coils. These are used in place of the normal build deck.

An RDA is the type where you have the coils showing and a removable cap. This means you have to monitor the juice on the cotton and coils and manually keep them saturated.

An RDTA is the same as an RDA except you have a tank underneath the coil deck. These will stay saturated as long as you keep juice in the well. The type with prebuilt coils have replaceable build decks.

An RTA is a tank with a cartridge installed and you fill the tank with juice. It sucks into the cartridge.

The main benefits of an RDA or RDTA is you waste less juice when changing coils or rewicking as you don't have to empty the tank, you can visually inspect your coils and cotton and you can rewick the cotton without replacing the coils. You can order prebuilt coils and cotton in quantity very cheap. It is not difficult at all once you try it. The flavor is far better than a tank to me.

There are RTAs with a coil cartridge option that is actually a rebuildable deck (RBA) packaged inside the cartridge.

I think you should at a minimum try an RBA coil for your tank.

 

[UncleRJ]

I have never really considered RDA's or RTA's of any sort because it is kind of intimidating for me. I am just barely beginning to understand the general concepts and terminology, but to even consider something like that seems impossible for me.

So, there are premade coils for RDA'S and RDTA's? Or is that where the different decks come in? Then I use the same type of coils that I am using in my tanks now?

While RDA's or RTA's may sound daunting, after you have performed a couple of builds it's kind of a no-brainer. Especially if you purchase premade coils to install.

Not to mention that with dry burning them after every other tank or so and installing a new wick, the coils will last you a good long time. The coil that I am using right now has been in service for over 60 days.

And they are so damn cheap to operate!

 

[pulsevape]

piss off learn about vaping in the gutters like the rest of us did....it makes it more exciting....

 

[Tarthibaim]

I think you should at a minimum try an RBA coil for your tank.

RBA coil for the tank I am currently using?

 

[fraleywp]

RBA coil for the tank I am currently using?

Nevermind, for some reason I thought you were using a different tank. So maybe you should try a tank with an RBA option.

 

[pulsevape]

RBA coil for the tank I am currently using?

yeah you seem to have a desire to tailor your vape to what you like...to really be able to tailor your vape I'd say you need to learn how to build your own coils. between tailoring your coils and tailoring your taste in the attys you use you'll find what you are looking for.

 

[Tarthibaim]

So, at this point I am looking at the iJoy combo RDTA tank. Also, going ahead and ordering some prebuilt coils to go with it. My question is, does someone who is knowledgeable, lol, re-wick those prebuilt coils, or do you just have to rebuy the coils once they are spent?

 

[fraleywp]

You can rewick them. There are two small screws on the bottom that allow you to remove the outer wall and rewick the coils. I haven't done it but I did watcha YouTube video on the process.

 

[fraleywp]

The IMC decks for the classic and combo are interchangeable as well.

 

[Tarthibaim]

I appreciate all of this great information!

I have one more dumb question, sorry @pulsevape , what limitations are there for tank/mod combos? What tanks can/cannot be used with different mods?

Essentially, could I use that tobecco tank with my smok alien mod?

 

[Mattp169]

ok lets define some things

an RDA is a Rebuilable Dripping Atomizer. This is one that you or someone else makes the coil (just the wire part) and you install it and then wick it There may be a tine 1-3mm resovoiur for extra juice but you are constantly dripping juice on the wicks every so many puffs. Most people feel nothing compare sin flavor to good rda. An example of this is the Petri RDA

a tank is what you have.. glass section that holds juice and you need premade coil units that have wicks in them. Some people can rebuild many of these cartidges themselves but it can be a major PITA for a beginner to get the hang of it

Some tanks come with or you can buy seperately what is called an RBA or ReBuilable Atomizer section. This lets you make coils and install wicks in your tank much like an RDA it basically turns your tank into an

RTA or Rebuilable Tank Atomizer - which normally has what looks like an RDA where as you can build your own coils install and wick them like an RDA but there is a glass section tank around that coil area that holds 2-6ml of juice so you dont have to drip. a friggin, griffin 25 griffin 25mm are allll good examples of this

The biggest difference between a tank with an RBA section and a RTA is that the room you have to fit the coil in is usually larger on the RTA making it easier to work with and learn on IMHO

Then you have a RDTA Or Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer. This is an RTA that the coil section is on top and the glass tank is on the bottom. This is slightly different because the juice flow is different the coil is closer to your mouth and you can simply leave the tank empty and use it as a RDA if you choose to do so. The limitless Plus is a good example of this

then you have some like the limitless combo or classic that are RTDAs which also have the ability to install prebuilt coils like your tanks take. Not the same one as your tanks but ones made specifically for them

Now another thing to note is with RDAs RTAs and RDTAs you can buy premade coils from companies and people who make them. Then you just install them yourself and wick them yourself. Several members sell their own custom handmade coils here on the forum.

I personally made the switch form a tank to an rta about 2 years or more ago. It took a while to get the hang of it, but mayeb a week or 2 of playing around and I had it down.

Here are what I feel are the advantages of going to an RTA vs a tank
1. flexibility - you can choose your wire, gauge type of coil etc to customize your vape. You dont need to know alot to do this safely or even try a lot of things. ebay and many stores sell variety packs of diffent coil styles to try. But basically it usually boils down to some type of clapton coil for many people to be happy. I use 3 different RTAs and use the exact same coils on them all after i figure dout what I like best. IN fact I buy spools of pre made clapton wire and just wrap the wire around my tool and install it. There are plenty of youtube videos to help you figure out the basics. I am not an expert by any means, but can usually rewick and recoil 5 RTAs in about 45mins or so

2. longevity. Usually the reason your premade coils in your tanks start to taste bad is the cotton is burnt or the coil is gunked up. well with RTAs and RDTAs and RDA and even a tank with an RBA section you can pull the wick. dry burn the coil rewick and have basically a new coil going in minutes and it costs you about what 5 cents worth of cotton if that much. SO if your tanks coil starts tasting bad after say 1 week of use you normally have to spend $3-7 dollars on a new coil. but with RTAs etc you spend a fe wminute sof time and at most 5 cents. Many of us use teh same coil for months and months and months. but we may rewick every othe rday, once a week every other week etc depending on our juices and usage.

3. gov't proof. you dont have to worry if the some new govt regulation is going to make it more expensive or even illegal to buy new coils. the wire and cotton we use is not VAPE ONLY it is used in many othe rindustries

4. future proof. what if you have had your favorite tank for 2 years and noonemakes replacement coils for it????? you dont have that issue when you make your own coils


5. Flavor - yes I feel my RTAs taste better then any tank I have ever used

 

[Tarthibaim]

ok lets define some things

an RDA is a Rebuilable Dripping Atomizer. This is one that you or someone else makes the coil (just the wire part) and you install it and then wick it There may be a tine 1-3mm resovoiur for extra juice but you are constantly dripping juice on the wicks every so many puffs. Most people feel nothing compare sin flavor to good rda. An example of this is the Petri RDA

a tank is what you have.. glass section that holds juice and you need premade coil units that have wicks in them. Some people can rebuild many of these cartidges themselves but it can be a major PITA for a beginner to get the hang of it

Some tanks come with or you can buy seperately what is called an RBA or ReBuilable Atomizer section. This lets you make coils and install wicks in your tank much like an RDA it basically turns your tank into an

RTA or Rebuilable Tank Atomizer - which normally has what looks like an RDA where as you can build your own coils install and wick them like an RDA but there is a glass section tank around that coil area that holds 2-6ml of juice so you dont have to drip. a friggin, griffin 25 griffin 25mm are allll good examples of this

The biggest difference between a tank with an RBA section and a RTA is that the room you have to fit the coil in is usually larger on the RTA making it easier to work with and learn on IMHO

Then you have a RDTA Or Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer. This is an RTA that the coil section is on top and the glass tank is on the bottom. This is slightly different because the juice flow is different the coil is closer to your mouth and you can simply leave the tank empty and use it as a RDA if you choose to do so. The limitless Plus is a good example of this

then you have some like the limitless combo or classic that are RTDAs which also have the ability to install prebuilt coils like your tanks take. Not the same one as your tanks but ones made specifically for them

Now another thing to note is with RDAs RTAs and RDTAs you can buy premade coils from companies and people who make them. Then you just install them yourself and wick them yourself. Several members sell their own custom handmade coils here on the forum.

I personally made the switch form a tank to an rta about 2 years or more ago. It took a while to get the hang of it, but mayeb a week or 2 of playing around and I had it down.

Here are what I feel are the advantages of going to an RTA vs a tank
1. flexibility - you can choose your wire, gauge type of coil etc to customize your vape. You dont need to know alot to do this safely or even try a lot of things. ebay and many stores sell variety packs of diffent coil styles to try. But basically it usually boils down to some type of clapton coil for many people to be happy. I use 3 different RTAs and use the exact same coils on them all after i figure dout what I like best. IN fact I buy spools of pre made clapton wire and just wrap the wire around my tool and install it. There are plenty of youtube videos to help you figure out the basics. I am not an expert by any means, but can usually rewick and recoil 5 RTAs in about 45mins or so

2. longevity. Usually the reason your premade coils in your tanks start to taste bad is the cotton is burnt or the coil is gunked up. well with RTAs and RDTAs and RDA and even a tank with an RBA section you can pull the wick. dry burn the coil rewick and have basically a new coil going in minutes and it costs you about what 5 cents worth of cotton if that much. SO if your tanks coil starts tasting bad after say 1 week of use you normally have to spend $3-7 dollars on a new coil. but with RTAs etc you spend a fe wminute sof time and at most 5 cents. Many of us use teh same coil for months and months and months. but we may rewick every othe rday, once a week every other week etc depending on our juices and usage.

3. gov't proof. you dont have to worry if the some new govt regulation is going to make it more expensive or even illegal to buy new coils. the wire and cotton we use is not VAPE ONLY it is used in many othe rindustries

4. future proof. what if you have had your favorite tank for 2 years and noonemakes replacement coils for it????? you dont have that issue when you make your own coils


5. Flavor - yes I feel my RTAs taste better then any tank I have ever used

Thank you for this info! This helps a lot!

I also think I have kind of figured out the answer to my question. Any atomizer can be used with any mod, given the correct connection, and it is safe given that you use the mod within the spec of the coil inside the atomizer. Is this logic correct?

The reason I ask this is because I look at all of the available atomizers and wonder "which one will work with my mod", and I think the question is more "which coils will work with my mod".

 

[midknight420]

Thank you for this info! This helps a lot!

I also think I have kind of figured out the answer to my question. Any atomizer can be used with any mod, given the correct connection, and it is safe given that you use the mod within the spec of the coil inside the atomizer. Is this logic correct?

The reason I ask this is because I look at all of the available atomizers and wonder "which one will work with my mod", and I think the question is more "which coils will work with my mod".

Also, if you are using a mech mod, there are two types of connections that are available.

1. The Hybrid - This type had just a hole where your atomizer screws in and makes direct connection to the battery. With a connection like this, you need to make sure that the screw is protruding enough that the threads of the atomizer DO NOT touch the top of the battery as very bad things will happen. As such, I do not recommend a mod with a connection like this at this time.

2. The 510 Pin - this is the most common connection and its safe to use with any atty. There is a pin (more often than not being spring loaded) that the atomizer makes contact with. I strongly recommend this type of connection for you at this time.

I wasn't sure if this was covered in the thread yet, but felt it very important to bring to light. I hope this helps and is not meant to scare you away from hybrid connections by any means. These are amazing for a good, hard hitting mech. Just make sure that you do the research and learn what is and is not safe before you venture into this realm.

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[MarkS]

Mech is the abbreviation for Mechanical. I would not recommend you use one of these Mods until you better educate yourself and buy an atomizer resistance meter. There are also hybrid Mods (between Mech and Regulated) that offer varying levels of protection and some offer varying abilities of setting the power output. I think you are best served at this point with what you have.

 

[Mattp169]

Yes the correct question is can the mod handle the coil not the atomizer.
Actually it is more like can the batteries Im using supply the correct amount of power safely to the coil
IN GENERAL
2 battery mods can handle almost anything you throw at them except some extreme coils Like octuple coils and other insane things that not many people use on a daily basis. for those things a 3 battery mod is best

a 1 battery mod especially the newer ones that go up to 70-80W can handle ALOT. I use a dual clapton build at .6ohms on my little IPV D2 at 50 watts all day long

It really depends on what you are going to be doing. I, like many, am in this for flavor first and a mod that can go to 80 watts can do that for most of us

so why do i have 4 other mods that are 2 battery mods that can go up to 200ish watts...convenience of not changing the battery as often thats it.. I run all 4 of them at 50ish watts all day long. Ive never in 7 years vaped except to experiment above 70 watts

the other thing to pay attention to is the minimal ohms the chipset can handle
in power mode many chipsets only work down to .1 ohms or .06 in TC
Any thing lower is quite quite low and not normal but people do it
some of my mods cut off at .3 ohms in power mode

This is for saftey reasons because the lower your ohms the more amps are being drawn from a battery

SO the other thing to worry about is getting good batteries such as
LG hG2 or hE4
samsung 30Q or 25R

These are probably the 4 most used batteries in 1,2 or 3 cell mods. They are inexpensive, about $7 each on the high end and $5. on the low end
There are others that are better if you plan on being at ohms below .2 alot

You really dont want efest, trust fire or any other brands other than sony and panasonic since any other brands are really a B or C bin quality from the other 4 rewrapped and mislabled to have better specs than the actually battery was intended to do.

The models mentioned are not the end all be all. there are others like the sony VTC5 or VTC6, but I mention the ones I have used. Im sure others will chime in with their favorite model, mine is the LG HG2

You should buy from trusted suppliers such as
liionwholesale.com
illum.com
imrbatteries.com

On ebay and amazon you may find a better deal but they may be FAKES. Fakes are rampant in the battery industry and a fake battery may go BOOM when an authentic doesnt

You can find authentics on ebay and amazon but you have to research the seller

The only consideration of "Will this atomizer work with my mod" is this
Up until about a year or so ago most atomizers were mainly 22mm in diameter or smaller. nowadays many are 25mm and some 30mmm and a few are 40mm.

a 22mm looks fine on any mod. Newer mods are getting wider so 25mm mods do not hang over the edge and some like the RX 3 battery mods are wide enough for 30mm atomizers. SO the question is "will the atty hang over the edge of my mod?" which even if it does it will work fine its only an aesthetic thing to worry about

As far as the 510 connection. THE ONLY ATTY i know of that does not fit the 510 connection standard on 99% of mods out there are the ones made specifically for the Provari P3 connector and there are only a very few of them. You will not find them super easily as they are mainly sold on very few websites. YEARS AND YEARS ago there were other connectors out there but they have gone the way of the dinosaur and were mainly refillable cartridges.

 

[Synphul]

Most atomizers will work with most mods (regulated like the alien, not mechanical mods). Regulated mods with built in protections like overcurrent, reverse battery protection, a screen and all the settings use a 510 connection. That's the name given to the female threads with the contact pin recessed on the mod. Atomizers with a male 510 pin like all those mentioned, limitless, griffin, petri etc should work.

Never hurts to ask and I say 'should' work because the threads match up and one will screw into the other. However there is no standard 510 length which can suck. Think of it like a screw that's too long and bottoms out in the hole before it's all the way in. Every once in awhile there's a mod with a short 510 and an atomizer with an abnormally long 510, screwing the atomizer all the way down until the base of the atomizer is flush with the top of the mod could potentially press the 510 contact in the mod too deep and damage it. A rare thing but can happen so never hurts to ask if unsure since there are lots of folks here who have used a lot of different combinations.

Being a regulated mod the alien is capable of handling a wide range of coils so long as the resistance is within the specs of the mod. Too low of resistance and it won't (or shouldn't) fire, instead it should give a warning and fail to fire. It's supposed to handle coils down to 0.1 ohms in wattage mode (power mode) and down to 0.06 ohms in temp control (requires titanium, nickel or stainless steel coils). Kanthal material coils aren't made for temp control with this mod (only a few handle kanthal in temp control).

When it comes to what atomizers will work with it, another consideration is size. Atomizers are various diameters, some are 18mm in diameter, some are 22mm, 24mm, 30mm etc. In other words how thick the tank is. If the tank is wider than the mod it will hang over the sides. I'm using a 22mm atomizer on the alien and there's a tiny bit of room left so chances are a 24mm will fit without hanging over anywhere. A large 30mm atomizer will hang over in some places but it will technically fit, match the connection and fire.

If you get into buying wire and wrapping your own coils you'll have to test them to make sure they aren't too high or too low of resistance. The rda's, rta's, rdta's etc all work on a similar simple principle, a positive and negative post with screws that clamp down either end of a wire wrapped in a coil. Whether you drip juice manually, have a tank that gravity feeds the juice to the wick or an rdta that you tilt so the juice in the bottom tank spills against the wick to keep it wet.

Different brands/models have their quirks and differ slightly in how they come apart for cleaning, how to open/close the juice flow, airflow and attach the coils to them. It's also possible to have 3 different atomizers that at a glance look similar but in terms of actual use affect the vapor and flavor. It's not always as simple as a coil heating up ejuice inside of a chamber and vapor flowing up a chimney to the tip. A rounded or angled chamber vs a flat topped chamber can affect flavor, airflow openings and placement etc. Another thing the forums are helpful with in steering you toward things that tend to work better for people more often than not.

It's really not all that scary, the scariest part is seeing all the options out there and trying to wing it on your own without the help of others who have experience. No clue where to start. If you venture into a rebuildable and wrap your own coils, it's not like a premade coil cartridge with wicking already in it. The wick and coil are separate and a crappy spent wick is cheap and easily replaced. The coil can remain and be rinsed and dry fired a bit with brief pulses of power to clean it where a prebuilt coil/wick duo is typically tossed and a new one installed in its place. It's more to swap the wick while tossing a coil that's probably fine.

My coils are simple twisted (two pieces of wire twisted together) and to give an example, I reset the puff counter on my alien to see what kind of use I was getting off my batteries. Around 570-600 puffs or so per charge. Since I reset the counter I've gone through 5 sets of batteries (charges), 2988 puffs on the same coil and I'd been using the coil for a couple weeks before I reset the counter. It's not a matter of the coil itself burning out, it's the wicks. I change wicks maybe once a day or every other day but I also switch up juice flavors a lot. Too many different flavors on the same wick = shit taste. For me once a wick gets a little burnt, it's hard to fix it without using a new wick. Sometimes I pick it up and vape and forget I'd already emptied the tank, burnt wick and nasty taste.

 

[Mattp169]

i would like to point out as well
many of my statements and others are IN GENERAL statements.
The statements can be applied to what each of us has experience with
My statements apply to almost any regulated mod on the market like the ones you mentioneds
my statements do not necessarily hold true for say a hexohm or ranger or dimebox mod that runs of a PWM or OKR chipset. My statements may hold true for those but they are not quite as regulated as say an Alien and you need to know a few more specifics

When using a regulated mod you have LITTLE to worry about...IF THE CHIPSET IS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY It will not fire when it is not safe to fire
What makes it safe or unsafe? Ohms law. It deals with volts amps and resistance
You need to worry about this stuff on some of the mods i mentioned the hexohm ranger dimebox etc. You didnt mention that you were looking at those types of mods
Basically with thinsg like an alien you have to worry about 2 things
As mentioned : the coil has to be within the ohm range of the mod .1-3 ohm for power mode and .06-3 ohm for TC. Pretty much any premade coil will be in that range
and
do you have enough power for the coil to shine I remember years ago Back in the days when 100 watts was considered the highest to go I had a little 30 watt device and got a Maganus tank. It had dual coil .5 ohm SS coils in it. well at 30 watts it was "meh" Then I tried it on someones fancier mod at took it up to 50ish watts and was in heaven
The point is the coil itself kind of determines how many watts it needs to shine. a 1 battery mod that does 70-80Ws is good for probably 60% or more of the premade coils out there. But with things like the SMOK TFV12 and that entire line of tanks. They have some pretty fancy coils that need more power to shine. Some are in the 100-150w range so a 2 or 3 battery device is needed for SOME of the coils on those tanks while some will do fine in a 1 battery mod.

Also always remember if a coil or website description says 50-75w for a coil thats a ball park. you may like it at 40w or even 90w But its gonna need in that ballpark to shine and anything WAY over the ballpark is gonna burn the cotton quickly and be very hot

Now i mentioned ohms law earlier and said you dont have to worry about it with regulated mods. Well not 100% true. The chipset uses ohms law and does the work for you IF ITS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY
Id say 98% of the people using regulated devices couldnt tell you why there mod has a lower limit of .1 or ,2 ohms. Well thats because of Ohms law. And 99% of anything that goes wrong with a regulated mod has nothing to do with ohms law except for somethings some idiots who shouldnt be allowed to vape do Regulated mods are fairly safe nowadays They usually break form juice leaking, being dropped, getting wet, or dirt getting in the mod..

In our discussion ohms law starts factoring in with building your own coils. I build my own coils and cant recite or even explain OHMS law to any degree of accuracy off the top of my head. If I look up some notes I could talk your head off. But I needed to grasp a basic understanding of it when I started so I knew what NOT TO DO when building coils. Nowadays I just plug numbers into http://www.steam-engine.org/ and know what my ohms should be if I am trying something new. And I can verify the saftey for my device using that website as well since I know the ohm range for my devices

so long story short
Any brand name regulated mod you buy nowadays will work with 95% or more of any premade coil for any currently produced atomizer on the market but you may need a 2 or 3 battery device to have enough power to power some coils so they shine.
You should be plenty safe. the mod should not fire if its not safe to fire.
Coil building for an RBA section, RDA,RTA or RDTA is not that complicated but you need to familiarize yourself a little with ohms law and be ready to do some experiments, watch some youtube videos, fail miserably a few times before you succeed
You can always buy premade coils for an RDA,RTA,RDTA and even RBA sectiuon to start with and just learn to wick at first
Having good batteries from brand names bought from trusted dealers is a must and what really keeps you safe from things going BOOM
almost any atomizer will work on almost any mod but larger attys may over hang on some mods

Overall you off to a good start asking the right questions and making sure you have some clue as to what your doing so you dont accidentally blow your face off.

The hardest part of vaping is the experimentation. There are just so many things out there to try, different mods, attys, coils, coil types, power ranges, juice flavors etc etc etc

I experimented alot for the first year, then settled in like 4 years, then experimented heavily for a over a year because all these new things were available and i wanted to try DIY juice and coils etc, then after that phase I settled back down and have been using pretty much the exact same mods, juices, coils, wicks and everything for almost 2 years now. I have 5 mods 2 are the same the other 3 are just different versions of each other. I may pickup a 6th which would be a duplicate of the other 2. I have 3 RTA/RDTAs I use I have 3 griffin 22s, 1 of which is in storage 2 are used daily. 2 griffin 25mm minis one of which is stored and the other used daily and 2 limitless plus I use daily. I have 7 sets of LG HG2s and 2 sets of Samsung 25R batteries I rotate through. I buy the same premade clapton wire from the same supplier and make the same exact coils for every RTA/RDTA. I use the same wick in all. I make the same 6 flavors of juice regularly Every once in a while I get an itch to try some new juice flavor recipe but thats it.

Now this after trying 10 different tanks and all their coils, 10 different rta/rdta setups, an RDA, 10 or more types of coils, 5 or more resistance ranges of coils,4 different coil diameters, 50 or so different juice recipes plus the dozens of different store bought juice recipes, a couple other battery models, watching tons of youtube videos, thousands of youtube reviews, reading a library's worth of material on line, talking to fellow vapors, hours of frustrations trying to figure things out, visiting my local shops alot for a while, and a lot of hair pulling.

In the end. its been worth it. I enjoy the flavor off my vape. Im healthier, will probably not die of lung cancer now, I smell better, and have saved thousands of dollars versus buying cigarettes.

SO hopefully my rants here helped. Good luck and keep asking questions no matter how dumb they seem, because belive me we have either seen dumber or asked dumber ones ourselves when we started

 

[KingPin!]

I was where you are now back in December 2016 hehe learnt a hell of a lot since then it's intimidating to start with

Great flavour is subjective and there is an endless rabbit hole awaiting you in the pursuit of it

Generally speaking to start with I went kind of slow I had the TFV8 beast tank for a good long time and was happy with it ...I chose to stay away from mechs or unregulated devices, only now am I about to venture down that path as I feel confident enough and equipped with the knowledge I need to try it ...I'd say stick to regulated mods like the one you have now to start with

In terms of building your own coils its great can't beat it flavour and clouds but perhaps try the RBA deck that comes with something like the beast first see how you get on?

In terms of categories

RDAs - rebuilable dripping atomizers are the best for flavour once you go down this route its awesome although not always the best for utility unless you get a squonk mod where you can squeeze a bottle and push the juice into the RDA that accepts bottom feeding

RTAs - rebuilable tank atomizers are the work horses generally have the best juice capacity are great for out and about can get really great balance of flavour and clouds normally at the expense of the latter as the coil is further from your mouth unless you choose a mini tank (2-3ml)

RDTAs - rebuilable dripping tank atomisers, i call these Genesis style some don't like that term but to me they are. Get best of both worlds tank sits underneath therefore coil sits closer to your mouth like and rda

GTA- Genesis tank atomisers see this is in conflict with the above just a marketing gimmick to me the coils sits roughly in the middle of the tank where juice surrounds it haven't tried one of these myself yet

Best best is to try one in each class see what you like the best that's what I did anyway hehe

 

[Tarthibaim]

UPDATE: 5/25/17

I purchased the iJoy Combo RDTA, first impressions are pure love. I installed the prebuilt IMC-Coil and was chucking huge clouds with amazing flavor. My dilemma is that these coils are MUCH more expensive. Elementvape has them for 8.95 a piece! I would assume that these types of coils would last much longer than a subohm coil for my other tanks, but the problem is that I am still in search for my juice. I have ordered some juices to try, but obviously won't do them justice by putting them through the same coil, even washed. So, I tried my hand at wicking the premade clapton coils that came with the RDTA on the IMC-2 deck. My first attempt, complete failure. I don't guess I put enough cotton in there and was getting basically no vapor. Also, extremely hot juice was popping out onto my lips and tongue. I counted this as loss and reattempted. This time, I am getting slightly more vapor production, but the throat hit is out of this world (bad). I can't drag for nearly as long as I could and I am using almost essentially the same juice. While i believe this to be a thicker juice, the nicotine level is the same. What am I doing wrong here? I have had to tone the mod way back from where it was just to be able to stand it. The vapor is very hot and almost unbearable throat hit. I am not getting the juice popping, but it is basically unusable due to the other problems.

EDIT: I am wanting to try to figure this out because i believe that it will be the best option for me trying different juices as I will be able to "Reset" the coil between flavors until I find what I like best.

 

[fraleywp]

UPDATE: 5/25/17

I purchased the iJoy Combo RDTA, first impressions are pure love. I installed the prebuilt IMC-Coil and was chucking huge clouds with amazing flavor. My dilemma is that these coils are MUCH more expensive. Elementvape has them for 8.95 a piece! I would assume that these types of coils would last much longer than a subohm coil for my other tanks, but the problem is that I am still in search for my juice. I have ordered some juices to try, but obviously won't do them justice by putting them through the same coil, even washed. So, I tried my hand at wicking the premade clapton coils that came with the RDTA on the IMC-2 deck. My first attempt, complete failure. I don't guess I put enough cotton in there and was getting basically no vapor. Also, extremely hot juice was popping out onto my lips and tongue. I counted this as loss and reattempted. This time, I am getting slightly more vapor production, but the throat hit is out of this world (bad). I can't drag for nearly as long as I could and I am using almost essentially the same juice. While i believe this to be a thicker juice, the nicotine level is the same. What am I doing wrong here? I have had to tone the mod way back from where it was just to be able to stand it. The vapor is very hot and almost unbearable throat hit. I am not getting the juice popping, but it is basically unusable due to the other problems.

EDIT: I am wanting to try to figure this out because i believe that it will be the best option for me trying different juices as I will be able to "Reset" the coil between flavors until I find what I like best.

Those IMC prebuilt coils can easily be rewicked. There is at least one video that shows how. Google it.