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I will never see the case again. They hold all the cards. I can't get Nancy to give me A RMA. I tried. Oh well. I have the case, the chip is bad. Avoid a bunch of crap, just change it. Bad HOO Do, on FT. I will rant and explain why you don't Buy from them. I am the dark side of Vaping.
 

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RJ, got a question for you. Our anyone else who has the same mods. I've got a vamo & svd, both of which I keep around 9 - 10 watts using pulse or aerotank; rsst I go to 12. How does this Hana compare to those mods at the same wattage?

Both of my authentic DNA 20 mods run a bit warmer than the SVD or Vamo at the same setting and so does this Hana clone.

Its now day #5 and it still vapes like a champ!
 

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Well, full day #1 with this mod is under my belt.

This morning, I started the day with a fully charged Sony 18650 X 2,600 mAh battery and commenced to vaping on a KFL+ with a fresh 2.0 ohm coil and ramie wick. And its twin with a different flavor.

I don't know about the rest of you, but when I get a new toy such as this, I vape on it more than usual.

Be real, if you get yourself a nice shiny new car, aren't you gonna go on a bit of a road trip?

Anyway, I started vaping on it at 7:00 A.M. this morning and switched back and forth between 10.5 and 12.5 watts all day depending on the RBA and flavor I was switching back and forth with.

I like to keep my taste buds interested.;)

It finally said "No More" with a "Low Battery" warning or something similar at 7:45 P.M.

Just shy of 13 hours of vaping overload is a win in my book

So I took the hint and connected the USB to a protected wall wart. And I did see a small red light peeking out at one side of the connecteor so I knew the circuit was active (?).

And I will be the first to admit, I am a stickler for battery safety which will explain the following.

Anyway, since I am likely to be in bed before charging is complete, I put the unit in a really, really large ceramic mixing bowl to charge so if something bad happens (and to be honest we really don't have that much info to go on with the reliability of this particular clone)

Did I already say I am paranoid about battery safety?

Anyway, I checked it after about 30 minutes after I connected the sucker and the battery gauge indicated it was indeed getting a charge.

Side trip to the battery gauge.

With a freshly charged battery, the gauge shows full (Duhh) but the gauge kinda gives you something to be concerned with as within about 30 minutes of heavy vaping (remember what I just said about new toy syndrome), it starts to go down faster than one would think.

Kinda hard to explain but it gets down the the 50% mark after just a couple of hours.

But then it just does not show much of a drain. And when you get down the the last 25% it just does not want to move until you get really close to the point where it tells you enough is enough and it give you the digital finger.

I just took a pause while writing this to take a peek.

After just about 45 minutes of charging, the gauge shows about a 25% charge so it is indeed working.

I am guessing about 3-1/2 to four more hours it will be charged via the 0.5 amp internal charger.

And chances are in a couple of hours either my bladder or my "Weenie" will wake me up and I will check the charge rate and see what is going on with it.

Also, before I forget, Doris of Focalecig contacted her supplier on my behalf and asked them if a green light would show when the charging is complete.

And the answer was yes!

And I am looking forward to seeing what happens with the charging process and I (as always) will share my findings with my vaping brothers and sisters.

And Vapor Joe as well if he ever bothers to read my rantings and ravings:D

Goodnight all!

May the Vape be with you:)
Yeah the Battery meter on the CHDNA clones is not very accurate
 

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Yeah the Battery meter on the CHDNA clones is not very accurate

After having almost 5 days of vaping on this under my belt, the battery gauge in the end does exactly what it is supposed to.

It tells me when it has a full charge and it lets me know if I need to make a decision to plug it in and charge it and grab another mod to keep vaping or swap out the battery when it reaches that last little strip of blue.

And I have to say, I am not as knowledgeable about batteries as some of the other members here but I kind of suspect that the way the gauge interpolates the charge level may have something to do with the way the VCT5 batterry discharges.

On occasion when I look at the display after taking a long toke when the gauge is about the 50% level, after a spit second, the gauge will pop upward slightly. Kinda like it is trying to tell me the battery just recovered from the last discharge a tiny amount if that makes any sence at all.

And at the two week mark if this is still going strong as I believe it will, I am going to make the leap of faith that this will last a very long time and purchase a Jwrap for the sucker.
 

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After having almost 5 days of vaping on this under my belt, the battery gauge in the end does exactly what it is supposed to.

It tells me when it has a full charge and it lets me know if I need to make a decision to plug it in and charge it and grab another mod to keep vaping or swap out the battery when it reaches that last little strip of blue.

And I have to say, I am not as knowledgeable about batteries as some of the other members here but I kind of suspect that the way the gauge interpolates the charge level may have something to do with the way the VCT5 batterry discharges.

On occasion when I look at the display after taking a long toke when the gauge is about the 50% level, after a spit second, the gauge will pop upward slightly. Kinda like it is trying to tell me the battery just recovered from the last discharge a tiny amount if that makes any sence at all.

And at the two week mark if this is still going strong as I believe it will, I am going to make the leap of faith that this will last a very long time and purchase a Jwrap for the sucker.
How it interpolates is odd IMHO I have tried VTC5's VTC4's LG 35amps and regular old Panasonic CGr's and it makes no sense how it can say half full and I check the voltage on the battery and its 3.9 maybe there are variations on the boards very possible :)
 

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How it interpolates is odd IMHO I have tried VTC5's VTC4's LG 35amps and regular old Panasonic CGr's and it makes no sense how it can say half full and I check the voltage on the battery and its 3.9 maybe there are variations on the boards very possible :)

I rather think there are different variations on the boards for these units. We already know that Innokin has started using the Evolv boards in the new version of the SVD and rumors have been flying around that Evolv has been supplying boards for use in the Chana Mods.

Heck, when mine comes out of sleep mode here is what is what I see on the display for a split second.

EVOLV
DNA

I have no way of checking it or comparing it to a certified Evolv DNA30 because I do not have one.

But it seems to function like my Evolv DNA20 except for the shorter amount of time it takes to go into sleep mode to save power but the screen dims in a similar fashion and when I switch my RBA from this one to one of my Evolv devices it shows the same resistance and the vapor hits the same way at the same setting..

No way to tell for sure.

But it does work:D
 

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I rather think there are different variations on the boards for these units. We already know that Innokin has started using the Evolv boards in the new version of the SVD and rumors have been flying around that Evolv has been supplying boards for use in the Chana Mods.

Heck, when mine comes out of sleep mode here is what is what I see on the display for a split second.

EVOLV
DNA

I have no way of checking it or comparing it to a certified Evolv DNA30 because I do not have one.

But it seems to function like my Evolv DNA20 except for the shorter amount of time it takes to go into sleep mode to save power but the screen dims in a similar fashion and when I switch my RBA from this one to one of my Evolv devices it shows the same resistance and the vapor hits the same way at the same setting..

No way to tell for sure.

But it does work:D
I have a friend that has the Fasttech clone and his says Evolv DNA he compared it against a Evolv DNA board not even the same chip layout I have heard claims its a 1:1 copy but not really.. There is a EEpom onboard for example the ChDNA clone my GF is using that we just got the Tobeco DNA says Tobeco when it starts up again who knows I think its possible that several suppliers are feedling Fasttech some of them could surely be Evolv Boards but if one knows what they are doing you can put anything you want on that screen :)
 

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Just wanna add to the sleep mode thing. It does feel good when you go back to an evolv dna not having sleep mode, but at this price you get used to it. Also you don't necessarily have to double click it. You can just press and hold. It'll kick in after a second or so
 

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Just wanna add to the sleep mode thing. It does feel good when you go back to an evolv dna not having sleep mode, but at this price you get used to it. Also you don't necessarily have to double click it. You can just press and hold. It'll kick in after a second or so


Great point! Unless I have been chain vaping, rarely do that anyway. I have just gotten in the habit of giving the button a push as I pick up the unit and then it is ready for when I go to take my vape.

So it really is not an issue for me at all.
 

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Great point! Unless I have been chain vaping, rarely do that anyway. I have just gotten in the habit of giving the button a push as I pick up the unit and then it is ready for when I go to take my vape.

So it really is not an issue for me at all.
Same, yes. It's like you're half consciously prepping :)
 

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Same, yes. It's like you're half consciously prepping :)

Exactly so.

Habits can go two ways.

Bad habits and we all need to work on mastering and getting rid of those.

Good habits which are worth creating.

Perfect example, while I mostly use RBAs now, I still use a Kanger T-2 top coil on my Vamo in the short 18350 mode for public use a lot. And I developed a habit of turning it upside down every so often to make sure the wick had a supply of liquid available to feed the coil. I still do that totally unconsiosly to this day until someone ask me why I am doing that with my KFL+. But I have almost got that licked when using anything but my Vamo.

Almost;)
 

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Exactly so.
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And I developed a habit of turning it upside down every so often to make sure the wick had a supply of liquid available to feed the coil. I still do that totally unconsiosly to this day until someone ask me why I am doing that with my KFL+. But I have almost got that licked when using anything but my Vamo.

Almost;)
Ah the good old days of tip and shake haha. I miss that
 

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On the Hana clones can you press all 3 buttons for 5 to 10 second to have it I'd its self ?
 

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Just wanna add to the sleep mode thing. It does feel good when you go back to an evolv dna not having sleep mode, but at this price you get used to it. Also you don't necessarily have to double click it. You can just press and hold. It'll kick in after a second or so
Yep and the quality seems to be getting better and better I am blown away by this Tobeco CHDna it it was a year ago I could have seen myself paying 200+ and not blinking...
 

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On the Hana clones can you press all 3 buttons for 5 to 10 second to have it I'd its self ?

Sorry, I don't quite follow you?
 

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Well on some chipsets if you press the fire button and the up and down button at the same time for 5 to 10 seconds the chipset in the mod will display some info about the chipset .
 

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Good idea,

But I am going to fly the yellow flag on this one because I really like the sucker and don't want to anger the vaping gods by messing with a good thing and breaking it.

I don't have the best of track records with experimentation which explains why Mrs. Uncle took away my tools a very, very long time ago:(
 

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If I remember right you have to press the up and down buttons 1st then the fire button and hold all 3 down for 5 to 10 secs .
 

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If I remember right you have to press the up and down buttons 1st then the fire button and hold all 3 down for 5 to 10 secs .

while standing on your head and reciting the lord's prayer? :p
 

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while standing on your head and reciting the lord's prayer? :p

I was kinda thinking the same thing.

Heck, I am doing well just to be able to operate it and charge it as intended!
 

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Just tried every combination on both the cana dna and the evolv dna and got nowt!

Can you get it to go into stealth mode and reverse the screen for right/left hand operation?
 

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Stealth Mode
In lock mode hold the power down button and press the fire button for 7 seconds.
Repeat to go back to normal mode.

Left/Right Mode
In lock mode hold the power up button and press the fire button for 7 seconds.
Repeat to change back.
 
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I just tryed it on a frends vamo and it throws up a long reg # as a id
 

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I just flattened my battery box tabs so I can fit an NCR18650B in there (the one far left). They're really long! But they're 3400mah so I think it was worth it. But I have to use a magnet now to fill out the space so I can use my other batteries. I've put the magnet at the negative end. Some advise putting them at the positive. But it all seems ok

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Just noticed a very small "Glitch".

This happened once before but I wrote it off to my cell phone pushing the - button. I went to take a vape and nothing. Then I noticed the setting was at 7.0 watts and not enough to really power my coil as normal. Put it back to 12.5 watts and it was good.

I was just messing with it and bumping the wattage up and it took off and was heading toward the 30 watt mark when I touched the + button and it stopped in its tracks.

Not really concerned about it but worth noting nonetheless. I am writing it off to the fact that the buttons are still nice and stiff and very "clicky" except for the power button which has eased up just a tad and isn't making my index finger quite as sore as it was at first.
 

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I just flattened my battery box tabs so I can fit an NCR18650B in there (the one far left). They're really long! But they're 3400mah so I think it was worth it. But I have to use a magnet now to fill out the space so I can use my other batteries. I've put the magnet at the negative end. Some advise putting them at the positive. But it all seems ok

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Let me know how that battery works out for you!
 

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Just noticed a very small "Glitch".

This happened once before but I wrote it off to my cell phone pushing the - button. I went to take a vape and nothing. Then I noticed the setting was at 7.0 watts and not enough to really power my coil as normal. Put it back to 12.5 watts and it was good.

I was just messing with it and bumping the wattage up and it took off and was heading toward the 30 watt mark when I touched the + button and it stopped in its tracks.

Not really concerned about it but worth noting nonetheless. I am writing it off to the fact that the buttons are still nice and stiff and very "clicky" except for the power button which has eased up just a tad and isn't making my index finger quite as sore as it was at first.
Well, it's meant to speed up if you keep it pressed. Is that what you mean?

Let me know how that battery works out for you!
It's working just fine. Just checked the magnet. No arcing. No marks. It's not hot. Vaping at 14 watts. So np. I'd rather do this and have the battery life. But you can clearly see the difference in length next to the sony vtc4 in the middle
 

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Let me try to do a better job this time explaining what happened.

I went to briefly press the + button trying to advance it by 5/10ths of a watt by clicking on it 5 times. And it just took off on me quickly ramp-ping up and heading for the full 30 watt setting. One more quick push/click stopped it in its tracks. Basically it just stuck briefly I guess.
 

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I was kinda thinking the same thing.

Heck, I am doing well just to be able to operate it and charge it as intended!

now you know why i like to keep things simple.....
this sounds like a freaking round table for super geeks!

everything you guys say is zooooooooom right over my head.
 

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I had my first glitch yesterday. It wouldn't fire and kept saying Check Atomizer. So I pressed the DNAs on board fire button a few times and it was alright after that. Been alright since
 

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I stand corrected about the resistance meter function. It is off by + 0.3 ohms.

How I missed it I am not quite sure.

But now I know to deduct 0.3 ohms from whatever the display says.

Still a great mod for the price:D
 

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now you know why i like to keep things simple.....
this sounds like a freaking round table for super geeks!

everything you guys say is zooooooooom right over my head.


Don't worry about it as it will come to you over time and with some experience.

A little over two years ago, I was where you are now.
 

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Don't worry about it as it will come to you over time and with some experience.

A little over two years ago, I was where you are now.

teach me obi wan.....but i warn you i am not a good student. i've been at this over 17 months and still know squat. :oops:
 

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The RMA dance has begun. Fast Tech wants to know what is wrong with the Mod. If any of you has ever tried to return something you know it is a pain in the ass. I get to ask for a shipping label to send this damn thing back to China. "Nancy" has yet to understand why smoke rolling out of the mod could be a problem. I win either way. I can just put another board in it and go about my day. But, I paid 56.00 for it & feel it should work more than 12 hours. After about 15 emails or so, they think I will give up. Their wrong. I have nothing better to do than Vape, drink beer & email Nancy. It's an asset, or pitfall of being retired. I have roughly 15 more years left to live. I don't mind screwing with my new China friend for about 14 of 15 years. It's the principal of the thing. :cool:
It goes back to Miami, Opa Locka, Fl. for returns not China
 

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It goes back to Miami, Opa Locka, Fl. for returns not China
This. Items shipped to US go back to Miami. I sent one back the other day.

Don't worry about it as it will come to you over time and with some experience.

A little over two years ago, I was where you are now.
I remember those days RJ. Gotta admit, I was impressed when I read you got into tanks & rebuilding, and higher wattage mods. Especially how you were saying you had no clue where to start (or something to that effect). I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. :p:D

teach me obi wan.....but i warn you i am not a good student. i've been at this over 17 months and still know squat. :oops:
If you don't already have one, get a basic rebuildable whatever. I never thought I'd get into it, thought it was too advanced for me. But I went with a rsst cause of all the insulation, practically impossible to short out. Practice away. If something isn't right, research & try again. Play around some & figure out what you like best. When you get used to it, then you have justification to get a new & cooler setup or upgrade.
 

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Savage..

"I remember those days RJ. Gotta admit, I was impressed when I read you got into tanks & rebuilding, and higher wattage mods. Especially how you were saying you had no clue where to start (or something to that effect). I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. :p:D"

I could be wrong, (as I so often am) but I don't think you were around in my very early days when I thought my 320 mAh, 510 stick battery was hot shit! And a couple of lady's took me under their wing and convinced me to invest in a Kgo kit. This was back when eGo batts were about twice what they are now and VV mods were the latest and greatest thing. Back then I had a real problem in the fact that I was unable to watch YouTube videos due to a very slow dialup connection. I did not have access to high speed internet until April 2013. And when I decided to get into RBAs my main concern was my horrible record of doing anything constructive with my over sized hands and thick and clumsy fingers. Again, I was lucky to have Nev step up to the plate and guide me though the process of wrapping a coil, installing it, inserting the wick and getting the thing to work

kelli

"teach me obi wan.....but i warn you i am not a good student. i've been at this over 17 months and still know squat. :oops:"

I am very, very far from knowing all there is to know about our vaping "Hobby". But fortunately for me, I am one of those people that just love to learn new things. And love researching to find the answers to my endless questions.

I am always happy to help if I am able as I will never forget all the people that have helped me over the years.

And truth be told, I am still learning and I hope I will never stop!

Case in point, I have reached out to Hobby Kid behind the scenes and he has been quite patiently helping me understand the in's and outs of different types of batteries and options for charging them quicker and safer than I would have thought possible!

All of the above is what makes the vaping world so special. Near as I can figure, 99% of all vapers are willing to help others in anyway they can. The other 1% is over on an other forum;)
 

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Tbh I rarely do too much either behind the scenes or publicly. I'm not one of those people who've been on social networks so long that they've grown tired of explaining things. There's just too many vicious fools who don't recognise there are many members here and elsewhere who are experienced technicians, have science degrees, been involved in the vape world for years, are business entrepreneurs, know the industry, oh yes and inventors, innovators, designers.. But after someone has explained the science, the politics, the safety… and some fool rants about the process by their multiple replies (on someone else's post I might add ;) - they never start their own) and torn it apart with their Facebook knowledge it leaves people in a dilemma what to do. My answer to that is this, go to their profile, click on their posts and see if they've posted anything useful
 

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This just in, Fast Tech has changed their mind about charging me 25.00 to fix my Hanna Mod. Got a RMA# and a were so sorry note. Like Coasta Concordia it's heading for the "scrap heap". Should have another one within 6 months or so.
 

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A Us Company, that will remain nameless if they get my order to me, has lost my order. I hang my head, I wonder why they laugh at people like us. We are victims. Of our own doing. Pay Dog gets their $ in a Nano second. We wait like a sitting Puppy for the Mail. Something is wrong with that. Just Sayin'.
 

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... Pay Dog gets their $ in a Nano second. We wait like a sitting Puppy for the Mail. Something is wrong with that. Just Sayin'.
Maybe start a thread on this instead of keeping up the hijacking. "Paid in a Nano second, have to wait for the Mail". Am I correct in thinking that you want instant gratification & your new purchase in your hot little hands immediately after paying? If so, maybe try a b&m. Or order stateside & pay the assinine next day delivery prices. Or try amazon & get that 1 hour drone delivery.

Just saying
 

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I am just telling what I know to be real. Don't know about any Hijacking. Had a "B&M" shifter in a Mustang once. Loved it. If your trying to stifle me, grow a pair, take lessons & try harder. I just report the truth. The truth is more entertaining than the "news".
 

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RJ, someone says I Hijacked your thread. I am not up with these younger folks terms. Thought a Forum was about opinions, & news. Sorry if I interrupted anything important. Kim what's er name blowed a Camel or something like that. Some little weasel is pissed I was talking about a defective Mod, that was stolen? I paid for mine. Hot hands? Kids these days! & the rest is not worth mentioning.
In the old days we used to slap them around some. can't do that anymore, hurts their delicate psyche , or what ever they call it. A boot in the ass always woke Me up. Maybe this is why the world is in such a mess.
 
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