Inawera Must Haves?

[Squonk]

I read somewhere that Caps or TFA yogurt is a more authentic tasting yogurt if mixed with a small percentage of the FA variety. Haven't tried it myself so I don't know for sure.

HI TP.
I haven't tried CAPs Yogurt . I have three different yogurts now and mixed all different combos. I even did the upside down dead chicken thing while listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side Of the Moon backwards while watching the Wizard of OZ with one eye stapled behind my back on a cold and dreary night behind the wood shed wearing monkey pajamas.

 

[Teresa P]

wearing monkey pajamas.

Doesn't work if they're a polyester blend.

 

[Squonk]

Doesn't work if they're a polyester blend.

Hummm? No polyester you say? DRATS!!!!

 

[Teresa P]

Hummm? No polyester you say? DRATS!!!!

BUT, if you do it at the stroke of midnight on a full moon, you can wear one of your wife's negligees in any blend and it will be a success.

 

[Squonk]

BUT, if you do it at the stroke of midnight on a full moon, you can wear one of your wife's negligees in any blend and it will be a success.

CRAP!!! Now I need a wife?!
Well,,,, If it means a good yogurt vape, then I guess......
Okay ladies, get in line.

 

[Teresa P]

LMAO!!!

 

[Teresa P]

Bachelorette #1!!

 

[Squonk]

Bachelorette #1!!

I think I hate yogurt again.

 

[NGAHaze]

LOL ... ya'll ain't right, that's all I'll say.

I like FA Yogurt myself but I do think it might be better mixed in with another sweeter version.

 

[Teresa P]

Right costs extra.

 

[Squonk]

Right costs extra.

Lots extra.

 

[kross8]

HI TP.
I haven't tried CAPs Yogurt . I have three different yogurts now and mixed all different combos. I even did the upside down dead chicken thing while listening to Pink Floyd Dark Side Of the Moon backwards while watching the Wizard of OZ with one eye stapled behind my back on a cold and dreary night behind the wood shed wearing monkey pajamas.

slowly and quietly i am going to back out of this room,, ..................poof........i'm gone

 

[RonJS]

... behind the wood shed wearing monkey pajamas.

Oh MY!



Ron
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"The days can go on with regularity over and over, one day indistinguishable from the next. A long continuous chain. Then suddenly, there is a change. "- Travis Bickle

 

[RonJS]

Right costs extra.

Now you have me wondering what it may have cost Squonk for you to not suggest (or picture) a...(gasp!)...Kardashian!

Ron
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"A true photograph need not be explained, nor can it be contained in words."- Ansel Adams

 

[gopher_byrd]

15% of Inawera this week at ECX!

 

[Teresa P]

Now you have me wondering what it may have cost Squonk for you to not suggest (or picture) a...(gasp!)...Kardashian!

Ron
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"A true photograph need not be explained, nor can it be contained in words."- Ansel Adams

I'm still interviewing applicants, be patient!

 

[FL_David]

From your mix and my soda thing I'd say 3% is waaaaay too high. Am I wrong?

I think it still depends on the flavor.
Same mix as above, but added 6 drops INW Pear and 8 drops of TFA Whipped Cream (to soften the edges a bit). I'll have to play around with the 3 fruit flavors as they are a bit strong for an ADV.
I was hoping the TFA Whipped Cream could replace FA Fresh Cream, but I think I failed on that one. There is only true light cream flavor for me. Oh well, it was worth a try. The Whipped Cream isn't bad, I will still use it up. Flavour Art does make the best tasting creams.

 

[AmandaD]

I think it still depends on the flavor.
Same mix as above, but added 6 drops INW Pear and 8 drops of TFA Whipped Cream (to soften the edges a bit). I'll have to play around with the 3 fruit flavors as they are a bit strong for an ADV.
I was hoping the TFA Whipped Cream could replace FA Fresh Cream, but I think I failed on that one. There is only true light cream flavor for me. Oh well, it was worth a try. The Whipped Cream isn't bad, I will still use it up. Flavour Art does make the best tasting creams.

The Caps whipped cream works pretty well at 1.5% with 2% IW waffle I don't know how it compares with the TFA whipped cream though!

 

[Squonk]

I'm still interviewing applicants, be patient!

OH !!!!

 

[Teresa P]

OH !!!!

 

[Squonk]

Wow! Just Wow!
I'm thinking , the single yogurt free life isn't looking so bad after all.

 

[AndriaD]

Ol' Pumpkin Butt!


Andria

 

[RonJS]

Oh No!

While Squonk certainly deserves all the joy and happiness of matrimony with such a lovely lady, I am concerned that such a union may cause a never ending honeymoon which would exhaust him so that he would not have the strength to post any new recipes!

Please forgive me if it sounds that I am thinking only of myself and not that of Squonk's much deserved eternal bliss.

Ron
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"The most beautiful things are not perfect, they are special"- Bob Marley

 

[Comfygirl]

I think it still depends on the flavor.
Same mix as above, but added 6 drops INW Pear and 8 drops of TFA Whipped Cream (to soften the edges a bit). I'll have to play around with the 3 fruit flavors as they are a bit strong for an ADV.
I was hoping the TFA Whipped Cream could replace FA Fresh Cream, but I think I failed on that one. There is only true light cream flavor for me. Oh well, it was worth a try. The Whipped Cream isn't bad, I will still use it up. Flavour Art does make the best tasting creams.

The pear sounds interesting!

 

[mjag]

The pear sounds interesting!

The INW Pear is real good, I don't have a lot of experience with other Pears though, the only other Pears I have is the TFA and also the TFA Pear Candy, the last one smells really good but haven't tried it yet.

 

[mjag]

Just got in another package from e-aromashop.com. 100ml of Shisha Vanilla, love that stuff. Some other flavors I was running low on in 10ml bottles. The only new flavors I got was Nutty Princess , smells similar to there peanuts, got it for a specific recipe. The other new flavor I got was Mississippi which is a pineapple cream. Smells really good but it will be interesting to see if it is needed if you already have the Ananas Pineapple flavor from them which I love.

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[AndriaD]

Just got in another package from e-aromashop.com. 100ml of Shisha Vanilla, love that stuff. Some other flavors I was running low on in 10ml bottles. The only new flavors I got was Nutty Princess , smells similar to there peanuts, got it for a specific recipe. The other new flavor I got was Mississippi which is a pineapple cream. Smells really good but it will be interesting to see if it is needed if you already have the Ananas Pineapple flavor from them which I love.

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So no difficulty in ordering from e-aromashop? I'm soon going to be ordering another 100ml of shisha strawberry, but with all the problems I've seen discussed about overseas orders lately, I was a bit worried.

Andria

 

[VinceV1]

Just got in another package from e-aromashop.com. 100ml of Shisha Vanilla, love that stuff.

OK, that's a point of view.

I made a 20ml bottle ouf of my 10 ml bottle adding PG to not abuse those fat diketones screaming at me

 

[AndriaD]

OK, that's a point of view.

I made a 20ml bottle ouf of my 10 ml bottle adding PG to not abuse those fat diketones screaming at me

What diketones? I wasn't aware that Inawera had released any info regarding that matter, about any of their flavors.

Andria

 

[VinceV1]

What diketones? I wasn't aware that Inawera had released any info regarding that matter, about any of their flavors.

Andria

No, They don't, and they should.

The smell of the bottle indicates a fatty flavor (I can be wrong).

 

[AndriaD]

No, They don't, and they should.

The smell of the bottle indicates a fatty flavor (I can be wrong).

I agree, they should. I didn't detect anything odd about the smell, but I could be wrong. Usually, to me, flavors with diketones smell pretty awful, like something really rancid (I can't abide the smell of microwave popcorn, peeeeeEUUUU!!!!), but that vanilla smells awesome to me.

Andria

 

[VinceV1]

I agree, they should. I didn't detect anything odd about the smell, but I could be wrong. Usually, to me, flavors with diketones smell pretty awful, like something really rancid (I can't abide the smell of microwave popcorn, peeeeeEUUUU!!!!), but that vanilla smells awesome to me.

Andria

I agree. I see what you mean. But flavors like FW caramel don't smell rancid.

 

[mjag]

So no difficulty in ordering from e-aromashop? I'm soon going to be ordering another 100ml of shisha strawberry, but with all the problems I've seen discussed about overseas orders lately, I was a bit worried.

Andria

No, took about 10 days to get my package. Still had to sign though, luckily someone was at home since it came on Saturday, if not it was another trip to the post office.

Maybe it is vape hardware having the problem? Maybe I have just been lucky but I haven't had any problems ordering from overseas. As long as I avoid gearbest, there shipping generally takes a month.....gahhhhh.

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[mjag]

OK, that's a point of view.

I made a 20ml bottle ouf of my 10 ml bottle adding PG to not abuse those fat diketones screaming at me

If it does have diketones I will take my chances, just too tasty and a small amount (on average 2%) goes a long way for me

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[compclouds]

INW cappuccino and cappuccino tobacco are damn near drinkable....a couple of favorites.

Thankfully NicRiver doesn't stock these, or it woulda been another thing added to my order from your comment. They just lowered all their prices on INW. Matches ECX on the 10ml, $3.49. Most of their FA & TFA are lower than ECX, so got a pretty hefty cart going so far of mainly 10ml flavors to sample.
Only added the INW Shish Strawberry & INW Shisha Vanilla so far to try out, as trying to limit my order at least a little bit. Those were the only flavors I chouldn't resist getting.

if you want large sizes for REALLY cheap, you can buy 'em direct from TPA/TFA

Thanks for the tip! I'll try to remember that when I decide which flavors I really like!

But I won't buy INW flavors anywhere but e-aromashop now; their prices are the best, by a large margin, and their shipping isn't prohibitive -- that whole pkg of flavors was $5.26, registered airmail, got it in 8 days. (ETA: actually, 8 days from the time it left Poland -- 10 days from ordering)

If I like these two INW flavors as much as people are raving about, I'll have to order larger bottles from them and try out some other flavors that NicRiver doesn't have.

I like FA Yogurt myself but I do think it might be better mixed in with another sweeter version.

Dammit! Now I wanna try making a fruit at the bottom yogurt in the future! Mmm! So good! I'll have to make a note of that.

That's kinda sorta why I opened this thread this evening. I was bored so I added 3 drops of shisha strawberry to my 12oz can of soda. Yum! Which begged the question, if 3 drops will flavor 12ounces of pop, how much of this do we really need to use for good flavor?

What you have to realize is that you're drinking a LOT more of the soda, coating your entire mouth before you swallow. When you vape, you're vaporizing a very small amount of juice that comes out in a sort of mist, and then hits your tongue, before you inhale it into your lungs.
Lets say you vape 15ml a day. Even if you were vaping @AndriaD rather flavor rich ejuice, that's only 2.25ml of the Shisha Strawberry over the entire day. I believe someone else said they vape Shisha Strawberry at 8% as a singular flavor. For him, if he vaped 15ml a day, it would be 1.2ml. Now, if you were to assume that your drops are actually the standard size of 20 drops per 1ml, that would be 24 drops. Now, the 8 sodas to equal that over the course of a day is probably a bit much, but I've known many that drink more than that, and there are a ton more flavorings in it as well. It's mainly the caffeine and sugar that are the problem though. To make flavored water like has become popular lately, you would probably have a LOT more flavoring, and probably at least a bit of sugar. For the FA flavors, seems many mix some flavors as low as 2-3%. Now that's quite a bit more reasonable. That would be 0.3-0.45ml of flavoring per day at the 15ml vape, or 6-9 drops.

Sorry for all the notes, I arrived here late. Also sorry for the math.

 

[AndriaD]

No, took about 10 days to get my package. Still had to sign though, luckily someone was at home since it came on Saturday, if not it was another trip to the post office.

Maybe it is vape hardware having the problem? Maybe I have just been lucky but I haven't had any problems ordering from overseas. As long as I avoid gearbest, there shipping generally takes a month.....gahhhhh.

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I've never had to sign for a pkg from e-aromashop; that's very odd.

10 days is pretty standard if you use the registered airmail shipping; one time, I used the next-most-expensive shipping, the $10-ish one, and it only took about 5 days -- great, but I don't usually care to spend that much on shipping!

I'm glad to know pkgs from them won't be a problem; I was very worried. I'm ok on hardware; the only thing I might order would be if Frog in Fog started carrying Achilles RDAs again.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

What you have to realize is that you're drinking a LOT more of the soda, coating your entire mouth before you swallow. When you vape, you're vaporizing a very small amount of juice that comes out in a sort of mist, and then hits your tongue, before you inhale it into your lungs.
Lets say you vape 15ml a day. Even if you were vaping @AndriaD rather flavor rich ejuice, that's only 2.25ml of the Shisha Strawberry over the entire day. I believe someone else said they vape Shisha Strawberry at 8% as a singular flavor. For him, if he vaped 15ml a day, it would be 1.2ml. Now, if you were to assume that your drops are actually the standard size of 20 drops per 1ml, that would be 24 drops. Now, the 8 sodas to equal that over the course of a day is probably a bit much, but I've known many that drink more than that, and there are a ton more flavorings in it as well. It's mainly the caffeine and sugar that are the problem though. To make flavored water like has become popular lately, you would probably have a LOT more flavoring, and probably at least a bit of sugar. For the FA flavors, seems many mix some flavors as low as 2-3%. Now that's quite a bit more reasonable. That would be 0.3-0.45ml of flavoring per day at the 15ml vape, or 6-9 drops.

You make excellent points about the quantities involved -- and I've decreased my own percentages, as my tastebuds have FINALLY started waking up -- also, I vape only about 5ml per day, nothing like the outrageous amounts that cloud chasers vape, so I really can't think that even my original recipe, in which I used the shisha strawberry at 16%, is dangerous or anything -- and now I use only about 14.5%.

Same would go for that shisha vanilla we've been discussing -- if I used that instead of TFA Vanilla Swirl in my strawberry & cream recipe, it would only be 4% of the whole recipe, and I vape about 5ml per day -- so even IF there are diketones in that flavor, I certainly wouldn't be getting very much. And though I do try to avoid diketones when I KNOW they exist in a flavor, I'm still not wholly convinced of the danger, given the far larger amounts in cigarette smoke, and the fact that I smoked 1-3 pks a day for 39 yrs, and have not developed bronchiolitis obliterans.

Andria

 

[compclouds]

You make excellent points about the quantities involved -- and I've decreased my own percentages, as my tastebuds have FINALLY started waking up -- also, I vape only about 5ml per day, nothing like the outrageous amounts that cloud chasers vape, so I really can't think that even my original recipe, in which I used the shisha strawberry at 16%, is dangerous or anything -- and now I use only about 14.5%.

Same would go for that shisha vanilla we've been discussing -- if I used that instead of TFA Vanilla Swirl in my strawberry & cream recipe, it would only be 4% of the whole recipe, and I vape about 5ml per day -- so even IF there are diketones in that flavor, I certainly wouldn't be getting very much. And though I do try to avoid diketones when I KNOW they exist in a flavor, I'm still not wholly convinced of the danger, given the far larger amounts in cigarette smoke, and the fact that I smoked 1-3 pks a day for 39 yrs, and have not developed bronchiolitis obliterans.

Andria

If vaping isn't safe, likely neither is cooking in a factory where far larger percentages of these flavorings are used. If the FDA decides any flavors aren't safe to vape, they really should either ban them, or limit their use in food in regards to preparation.
But my point was actually that the amount consumed even in your flavor heavy recipe is actually pretty low. Many likely consume far more in food and drinks.
I think the recipe above was a 15 and 14 percent? 29 percent total. 1.45ml? So maybe a bit high, but there could literally be more in some cereals or other products for all I know.

 

[VinceV1]

But my point was actually that the amount consumed even in your flavor heavy recipe is actually pretty low. Many likely consume far more in food and drinks

There is no problem drinking or eating diacetyle at all. Vaping is a different story, based on NIosh recommendations.

 

[compclouds]

I wasn't even talking about diacetyl, but simply the levels of flavorings. What I said in regards to whether or not anything is safe had more to do with anything undisclosed, which would likely be more of a danger for factory workers anyway.

 

[AndriaD]

There is no problem drinking or eating diacetyle at all. Vaping is a different story, based on NIosh recommendations.

But NIosh hasn't got a single word to say about vaping. They are concerned with occupational safety -- people who have to breathe in copious amounts of substances 40 hrs a week, which hasn't got a single thing to do with vaping.

Also, the diacetyl substance of concern is a powdery substance; what we vape, obviously, is a vapor, which is a suspended liquid. I'm pretty sure that most powders would present problems of their own, regardless of the substance they contain -- the Advair I need to inhale twice daily is a powder, and it, strangely, is safe for my asthmatic lungs, but REQUIRES one to rinse the mouth and throat thoroughly, to prevent, as much as possible, the steroidal drug from entering the digestive system.

Regardless of any of that, it has been proven that cigarette smoke contains an ENORMOUS amount of diacetyl, FAR more than any flavor that any of us use to make eliquid... and no smoker has been diagnosed with bronchiolitis obliterans. Lung cancer, COPD, certainly, but B.O. is a separate and discrete disease; it may sometimes be misdiagnosed as COPD, but further inquiry will reveal the truth: it is a different disease. COPD merely obstructs the lungs; B.O. destroys them utterly. It is vanishingly rare.

Andria

 

[compclouds]

But NIosh hasn't got a single word to say about vaping. They are concerned with occupational safety -- people who have to breathe in copious amounts of substances 40 hrs a week, which hasn't got a single thing to do with vaping.

Also, the diacetyl substance of concern is a powdery substance; what we vape, obviously, is a vapor, which is a suspended liquid. I'm pretty sure that most powders would present problems of their own, regardless of the substance they contain -- the Advair I need to inhale twice daily is a powder, and it, strangely, is safe for my asthmatic lungs, but REQUIRES one to rinse the mouth and throat thoroughly, to prevent, as much as possible, the steroidal drug from entering the digestive system.

Regardless of any of that, it has been proven that cigarette smoke contains an ENORMOUS amount of diacetyl, FAR more than any flavor that any of us use to make eliquid... and no smoker has been diagnosed with bronchiolitis obliterans. Lung cancer, COPD, certainly, but B.O. is a separate and discrete disease; it may sometimes be misdiagnosed as COPD, but further inquiry will reveal the truth: it is a different disease. COPD merely obstructs the lungs; B.O. destroys them utterly. It is vanishingly rare.

Andria

Thank you @AndriaD. I think if anything vaping will be a good thing, because they should have been investigating what happens when anything put in food is heated and inhaled from the very start.

 

[VinceV1]

@Andria We talk about presomptions. But ECTA considers that 100 ppm is the maximum an eliquid shoud have.

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you @AndriaD. I think if anything vaping will be a good thing, because they should have been investigating what happens when anything put in food is heated and inhaled from the very start.

@Andria We talk about presomptions. But ECTA considers that 100 ppm is the maximum an eliquid shoud have.

I find it a rather ridiculous thing to worry about, and I'm not sure why I got sucked into it yet again. I avoid diketones as far as I'm able to, not because I really believe they're all that hazardous, but because I suffer a) asthma, b) hypochondria, and c) a raging case of anxiety about most things, and I just feel it's better for my *peace of mind* to avoid diketones, not necessarily my lungs. The shit that most people have to inhale during a half-hour (or more, 5 days a week) commute to/from work is far worse, yet no one gets terribly exercised about that.

Andria

 

[VinceV1]

Let's return to flavors then

 

[mjag]

Let's return to flavors then

Amen.....

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[compclouds]

I suffer delusions of a vast conspiracy to be lazy and not bother caring about the health and welfare of their fellow man...
I wonder if that could be a flavor... Vast Conspiracy of Laziness! Does that sound like a cream base to you? Like the common association in america is potatoes to laziness, but I don't think there is a potato chip vape flavor. It sounds like a really smooth cream to me, with perhaps a hint of strawberry...or maybe blueberry...

 

[AndriaD]

I suffer delusions of a vast conspiracy to be lazy and not bother caring about the health and welfare of their fellow man...
I wonder if that could be a flavor... Vast Conspiracy of Laziness! Does that sound like a cream base to you? Like the common association in america is potatoes to laziness, but I don't think there is a potato chip vape flavor. It sounds like a really smooth cream to me, with perhaps a hint of strawberry...or maybe blueberry...

Like a milkshake... so with a hint of Koolada.

Andria

 

[compclouds]

Like a milkshake... so with a hint of Koolada.

Ooh! I could see it as a chocolate chip mint milkshake!

 

[AndriaD]

Ooh! I could see it as a chocolate chip mint milkshake!

I'm not a huge fan of mint, but that could be pretty good. My favorite is strawberry milkshakes. I've been stuck fast to my strawberry & cream, but with the shisha strawberry, a great strawberry milkshake should be easily possible.

Andria