Is a DNA 200 right for me?

[BadLuckAndTrouble]

Looking at (maybe) getting a DNA 200 over another dual 18650 device, but am worried about battery life.

I have really cut down on vaping lately so Im not burning through 50mls a day, closer to 20mls now. A Sig 150 OG w/ HE2s (5000mah) lasts me all day battery wise.

So Im wondering if the following DNA 200 devices would suit my needs.

HCigar VT200- nice aesthetics and cheap, 1200-1300mah LiPo

VS 200- sleek and small with a 900mah LiPo but also zip charging

Flawless- stand out looks 1200-1300mah LiPo (though some reviews Ive seen say it feels cheaply made)

Got a suggestion on another model? Let me know.
I do NOT want the Realeaux, this is going to be my out and about mod when not using a Mech or Reo and I want it to fit in my pocket comfortably.

Otherwise itll be a Sig 150 TC or IPV5

 

[Cloudy Peak Vapes]

Looking at (maybe) getting a DNA 200 over another dual 18650 device, but am worried about battery life.

I have really cut down on vaping lately so Im not burning through 50mls a day, closer to 20mls now. A Sig 150 OG w/ HE2s (5000mah) lasts me all day battery wise.

So Im wondering if the following DNA 200 devices would suit my needs.

HCigar VT200- nice aesthetics and cheap, 1200-1300mah LiPo

VS 200- sleek and small with a 900mah LiPo but also zip charging

Flawless- stand out looks 1200-1300mah LiPo (though some reviews Ive seen say it feels cheaply made)

Got a suggestion on another model? Let me know.
I do NOT want the Realeaux, this is going to be my out and about mod when not using a Mech or Reo and I want it to fit in my pocket comfortably.

Otherwise itll be a Sig 150 TC or IPV5

I have a Reaulaux and a Tugboat (Flawless) DNA 200. If you want battery life, the Reaulaux is the way to go. The Tugboat is not cheaply made. It is a really nice box. The LiPo doesn't quite last as long as 2 HE2's, but it's respectable. It also has a Fat Daddy Vapes 510... It's quality. If you're near Micro Usb cords typically, the Tugboat charges pretty fast, and you could keep topping it off. I would not get a smaller LiPo mod than the 1200 mah it has. It's kinda a stay at home device for me, it's too expensive to take around a bunch.

The Reuleaux is not as big as it seems it would be, but it is heavy and not great to pocket. It isn't bad for a shirt pocket, though. It's definitely the way to go if you need battery life. I use VTC4's in it and they last forever.

If you want an out and about DNA, maybe the Hcigar, or SMY would be good. Decent battery capacity, and fairly inexpensive. And I don't know if you've researched LiPos, but they have very different discharge curves than 18650's. Mine drops to 3.8 volts moderately fast, but the the LiPo holds at 3.7 until about 10% then falls off a cliff. I've yet to get a battery warning.

Go to the Evolv forums if you haven't. A lot of good info on there, and it's all DNA 200. There is a newer 2 battery box out now, and another 3 battery box out. I'd really suggest going over to the Evolv forum and just reading.

If you like TC, and are comfortable setting stuff up in Escribe(not difficult) the DNA 200 beats the hell out of any other TC device I have. Hands down, it ruined my iPV's for me. Hope that helps some.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I have a few DNA200 mods. I have the VT200, I'd say at best it's between 1000-1100 mah. I have my watt hours set to 10.87 and the battery gauge is pretty accurate using that. The newer ones supposedly have an improved Lipo. I don't have a newer one so I can't confirm that. What I find is with my DNA200 mods they last me somewhere in between what a single and dual 18650 mod would last. I have a Lavabox, Hotcig DX200 (both 900mah 3s Lipo's), and a VT200 (supposedly a 1300mah 3s Lipo). I will say the VT200 seems to last a touch longer that the other 2.

The Vapor Shark is the only one I know of that supports 2 amp zip charging (the others are limited to 1 amp). What I'm trying to say if you have a 2 amp source, in 30 minutes you can put quite a charge on it.

I also have the Reuleaux DNA200 (I know you're not interested in that). I only mention it because I can easily get over a days use before needing to charge.

To sum it up. I don't get a full day out of my other DNA200 mods, but I don't get a full day out of my IPV3 Li either (dual 18650 mod). Hope some of that helps.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit. I forgot to mention that I really like all my DNA200 mods. Since getting them all my other mods basically have been shelved. I still however use my IPV3 Li to build my dual coil attys on. It has resistance out to the thousandth (3 places past the decimal point) and can easily be checked by pushing the up and down buttons. I really should sell or pif a few of my other mods

 

[Cloudy Peak Vapes]

I have a few DNA200 mods. I have the VT200, I'd say at best it's between 1000-1100 mah. I have my watt hours set to 10.87 and the battery gauge is pretty accurate using that. The newer ones supposedly have an improved Lipo. I don't have a newer one so I can't confirm that. What I find is with my DNA200 mods they last me somewhere in between what a single and dual 18650 mod would last (I have a Lavabox, Hotcig DX200 (both 900mah 3s Lipo's), and a VT200 (supposedly a 1300mah 3s Lipo). I will say the VT200 seems to last a touch longer that the other 2.

The Vapor Shark is the only one I know of that supports 2 amp zip charging (the others are limited to 1 amp). What I'm trying to say if you have a 2 amp source, in 30 minutes you can put quite a charge on it.

I also have the Reuleaux DNA200 (I know you're not interested in that). I only mention it because I can easily get over a days use before needing to charge.

To sum it up. I don't get a full day out of my other DNA200 mods, but I don't get a full day out of my IPV3 Li either (dual 18650 mod). Hope some of that helps.

Cheers,
Steve

This is very good info, too. And it gives you examples of three mods I didn't mention.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Looking at (maybe) getting a DNA 200 over another dual 18650 device, but am worried about battery life.

I have really cut down on vaping lately so Im not burning through 50mls a day, closer to 20mls now. A Sig 150 OG w/ HE2s (5000mah) lasts me all day battery wise.

So Im wondering if the following DNA 200 devices would suit my needs.

HCigar VT200- nice aesthetics and cheap, 1200-1300mah LiPo

VS 200- sleek and small with a 900mah LiPo but also zip charging

Flawless- stand out looks 1200-1300mah LiPo (though some reviews Ive seen say it feels cheaply made)

Got a suggestion on another model? Let me know.
I do NOT want the Realeaux, this is going to be my out and about mod when not using a Mech or Reo and I want it to fit in my pocket comfortably.

Otherwise itll be a Sig 150 TC or IPV5

You've seen me around raving about the vsdna, the 30-45 minute charge time is great. I get about 5 hours on a charge between 50-60w any more than that and I'm losing battery life quick. but for my grab and go at work its perfect for me. It with the Petri RDA at 50w with a 70w preheat is my perfect vape. zip charging It puts me through the day. personally the zip charging never bothered me. but, I've been vaping with a vaporshark since they first came out way back in the day with the DNA30. pass through vaping in the car or in the office was always a happy tradeoff for a mod with this form factor packing this much power.

If I were not able to have the zip charging or be able to charge it during the day I would look at the litt44(2000mah) or the effusion from lostvape(1300 mah)
As to the board itself. Ive always been an early adopter of new tech and am a but of a fan of this board in particular so I am completely bias. its the best board in vaping for anyone that likes temp limiting and likes fiddling in the settings and dialing stuff in, or experimenting with whatever is out there.

The 1300 man is what is in my coudmaker that will last me all day. the hexohm with 2 18650s set at about 4.5v gets me all day and into the next day. But that's the polar opposite, you're going from high tech options to an old 42ford hotrod.

 

[Neunerball]

One thing, nobody has mentioned, but should be considered, is you need to have a computer with a Windows OS, in order to be able to make full use of the DNA 200. OOB, it can be used in Power mode, or TC for Ni200 coils only. If you would want to use TC for SS wire/coils, or other coils, you would have to create a profile with Escribe running on your computer, and program it via the USB connection into your mod.

 

[MrScaryZ]

Looking at (maybe) getting a DNA 200 over another dual 18650 device, but am worried about battery life.

I have really cut down on vaping lately so Im not burning through 50mls a day, closer to 20mls now. A Sig 150 OG w/ HE2s (5000mah) lasts me all day battery wise.

So Im wondering if the following DNA 200 devices would suit my needs.

HCigar VT200- nice aesthetics and cheap, 1200-1300mah LiPo

VS 200- sleek and small with a 900mah LiPo but also zip charging

Flawless- stand out looks 1200-1300mah LiPo (though some reviews Ive seen say it feels cheaply made)

Got a suggestion on another model? Let me know.
I do NOT want the Realeaux, this is going to be my out and about mod when not using a Mech or Reo and I want it to fit in my pocket comfortably.

Otherwise itll be a Sig 150 TC or IPV5

1300Mah battery life sucks om the DNA200 I find myself using it less due to this.. depends on how much you vape a day

 

[Cloudy Peak Vapes]

One thing, nobody has mentioned, but should be considered, is you need to have a computer with a Windows OS, in order to be able to make full use of the DNA 200. OOB, it can be used in Power mode, or TC for Ni200 coils only. If you would want to use TC for SS wire/coils, or other coils, you would have to create a profile with Escribe running on your computer, and program it via the USB connection into your mod.

This...

I held out for a decent bit on the DNA200 since one, I wasn't certain I wanted to get into the brains of the device, and two, I have a Mac. I now have a PC laptop always available, and I wanted a new mod for my Birthday, so I jumped in. Not looking back, for TC, at least. It's kinda fun using escribe and live monitoring. However, I haven't used it for probably a month now. Once you set it up and play for a while, you're good to go mostly.

Also, from the factory, Kanthal has a 100 watt limit. Don't know why, it can be changed to 200 in a mater of seconds in escribe, but, until then, 100 watts will be all you have for kanthal.

With the pricing, if you have a PC, enjoy TC, and have the budget, DNA is the way to go. For power vaping, which is actually my main thing still, it's just a super nice mod.

Cliff notes, if you have the money, a PC, and use TC, I say DNA 200. I really would open your options to looking at some of the 18650 ones just to see. The battery life is vastly superior. But broken record, I can say pretty confidently that the TC on the DNA is the best out there. I really can't use TC anymore on my iPV's or my Hohm Wrecker. The DNA just blows them away.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

One other thing I'd add to your post. Last I heard Evolv was working on a Mac compatible version of Escribe. I thought it was supposed to be out first quarter of this year. With that said, there are ways to run Escribe in it's current form on a Mac. The detailed instructions are on Evolv's Early Adopters Forum.

PS. I do however have a PC so it's never been a problem for me personally. I'm not trying to diss/discount the people it is a problem for.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Cloudy Peak Vapes]

One other thing I'd add to your post. Last I heard Evolv was working on a Mac compatible version of Escribe. I thought it was supposed to be out first quarter of this year. With that said, there are ways to run Escribe in it's current form on a Mac. The detailed instructions are on Evolv's Early Adopters Forum.

PS. I do however have a PC so it's never been a problem for me personally. I'm not trying to diss/discount the people it is a problem for.

Cheers,
Steve

From what I've seen on the Evolv forums, it seems that the Mac OS version has been on its way for quite a while. I haven't checked the forums in a while, though. Im not holding my breath. And you can install windows if you buy an oem copy and run it on your mac in the stock boot camp program. Just need to have a separate partition on your HD, and then you can run either OS natively. Also, programs such as Parallels let you run both together. I know people have done stuff with Mac OS to get it to work, but its beyond my knowledge, and i do think it has given some people trouble.

Of course this is if you dont have a PC.

 

[NinoCappuccin0]

The Hcigar VT 200 is really close to 1300mah and the power will make you wonder why you even wasted time and money on 18650s and choosing which ones to use. I use power mode (Kanthal/Clapton) only and ironically the mods are made for top notch TC. They are top notch vaping all around. The software is absolutely necessary to master and use correctly but some reading or youtube will get you up to speed. The latest firmware is great. you can technically just buy an Hcigar VT 200, update it, and disconnect so you can try the device before getting into the software which takes a bit. Using nickle material, place a kanthal coil on top if you set the temp to off in the general tab (first one). Then use that TCR graph. The nickle curve is satisfactory for beginning or trying it out at first. You can get 3.11v cutoff, and around 1300mAh. It's capable of up to 50 continuous amps if needed but adding a new battery pack can allow you to have a constant output of 40c or amps basically. That could be a bit too much if you're not vaping .15ohms every time. I replaced my upgraded battery pack with the original for this reason. I'm using a .4ohm Clapton coil on it's downloaded graph to use for the vaping in general. The way it fires and the stages it takes to reach the top hot lung hit. The battery lasts all day chain vaping at .4ohms if adjusted in Escribe. I need 2 and a half hours to charge the battery from 25% so about 3 hours and 20 mins for a completely full charge from a lower level of battery life remaining. Not bad. It feels expensive, the buttons don't rattle, they're solid metal and the mod is so ergonomic it's hard to use another mod after this. It's small but not too small which is good for people with big hands like myself but it's not bulky at all. I think the Hcigar VT200 would be a purchase you won't regret and probably would wonder what you'll do with those batteries you've accumulated in bunches over the last 7 months. LOL. I absolutely love the jump I made and I was also hesitant. 200W is rediculous but that's the way the mods are now. Capability of any needed amperage and PLENTY of voltage is so welcome. Bye VTC4s....I'm sick of you and your charging, tearing, and ordering in fear of fake cells being delivered. The Hcigar is the cheapest DNA 200 but it's the best according to my friend who has them all. The 18650s that some newer DNA 200s use are just a waste. My stock Lithium Polymer 3-s 1300mAh battery is grand. Not sure if it's 3900 mAh total because of three cells in the battery pack but regardless it lasts long enough for my entire day while chain vaping. Get it.

 

[Scy123]

The 18650s that some newer DNA 200s use are just a waste. My stock Lithium Polymer 3-s 1300mAh battery is grand.

Actually it's not a waste, the Reaulaux with 3 LG HG2 has 28 watt hours vs 14 watt hours on a dna200 1300mAh device. That means the Reaulaux has twice the battery life.

Those figures are calibrated on the DNA200 device itself so that is accurate and all usable watt hours also.

 

[MrScaryZ]

The Hcigar VT 200 is really close to 1300mah and the power will make you wonder why you even wasted time and money on 18650s and choosing which ones to use. I use power mode (Kanthal/Clapton) only and ironically the mods are made for top notch TC. They are top notch vaping all around. The software is absolutely necessary to master and use correctly but some reading or youtube will get you up to speed. The latest firmware is great. you can technically just buy an Hcigar VT 200, update it, and disconnect so you can try the device before getting into the software which takes a bit. Using nickle material, place a kanthal coil on top if you set the temp to off in the general tab (first one). Then use that TCR graph. The nickle curve is satisfactory for beginning or trying it out at first. You can get 3.11v cutoff, and around 1300mAh. It's capable of up to 50 continuous amps if needed but adding a new battery pack can allow you to have a constant output of 40c or amps basically. That could be a bit too much if you're not vaping .15ohms every time. I replaced my upgraded battery pack with the original for this reason. I'm using a .4ohm Clapton coil on it's downloaded graph to use for the vaping in general. The way it fires and the stages it takes to reach the top hot lung hit. The battery lasts all day chain vaping at .4ohms if adjusted in Escribe. I need 2 and a half hours to charge the battery from 25% so about 3 hours and 20 mins for a completely full charge from a lower level of battery life remaining. Not bad. It feels expensive, the buttons don't rattle, they're solid metal and the mod is so ergonomic it's hard to use another mod after this. It's small but not too small which is good for people with big hands like myself but it's not bulky at all. I think the Hcigar VT200 would be a purchase you won't regret and probably would wonder what you'll do with those batteries you've accumulated in bunches over the last 7 months. LOL. I absolutely love the jump I made and I was also hesitant. 200W is rediculous but that's the way the mods are now. Capability of any needed amperage and PLENTY of voltage is so welcome. Bye VTC4s....I'm sick of you and your charging, tearing, and ordering in fear of fake cells being delivered. The Hcigar is the cheapest DNA 200 but it's the best according to my friend who has them all. The 18650s that some newer DNA 200s use are just a waste. My stock Lithium Polymer 3-s 1300mAh battery is grand. Not sure if it's 3900 mAh total because of three cells in the battery pack but regardless it lasts long enough for my entire day while chain vaping. Get it.

Unless you are vaping over 120 watts you will see no benefit of a LIPO battery therefore for the average user a DNA 200 with 18650's is perfectly fine.. the Only time a LIPO battery outpaces a 18650 is with Pure amp draw something you do not see unless you are using ungodly Wattage levels

 

[Deucesjack]

I have a VT200. It's a nice mod but I only use it at home. The battery life just sucks. Truth be told, since I bought my Reuleaux I rarely use my VT. I use an RX as my beater mod. I have all day battery life and I really don't give a shit if anything happens to it. My main out and about mod is my VF Classic. Great battery life and real pocket friendly. If I wanted an out and about DNA I would definitely look at a VT133. Just my opinion.

 

[StereoFreeze]

Just picked up a VS200 today and the size is great. Love how small it is and the zip charging is an awesome feature. Haven't used it long enough to know much about the battery life, but based on performance so far I will be keeping a charger at work. Guessing it will last me most of the day with a charge before I leave. The software is easy to learn and if you go through the guide at this link http://www.evolvapor.com/guide/story.html, you will have the basics in no time.

 

[Fictitious Character]

Looking at (maybe) getting a DNA 200 over another dual 18650 device, but am worried about battery life.

I have really cut down on vaping lately so Im not burning through 50mls a day, closer to 20mls now. A Sig 150 OG w/ HE2s (5000mah) lasts me all day battery wise.

So Im wondering if the following DNA 200 devices would suit my needs.

HCigar VT200- nice aesthetics and cheap, 1200-1300mah LiPo

VS 200- sleek and small with a 900mah LiPo but also zip charging

Flawless- stand out looks 1200-1300mah LiPo (though some reviews Ive seen say it feels cheaply made)

Got a suggestion on another model? Let me know.
I do NOT want the Realeaux, this is going to be my out and about mod when not using a Mech or Reo and I want it to fit in my pocket comfortably.

Otherwise itll be a Sig 150 TC or IPV5

So what did you decide on man? Me personally I favor the SX setups over the dna200 but I am just a average vaper that buys well over needed watt devices.

 

[NinoCappuccin0]

Yeah a day is about right. I wanteda VS but the accessories like hard case and zip totalled over 260 bucks. I got my DNA on sale for $119.99

 

[thunderdan]

I like both my Tuglyfe DNA200, and VS200 more than my VT200. I like them all though, the flawless DNA200 seems very well made to me, and doesn't feel cheap in any way IMO. I do like the zip charging on the VS200 and how light and pocketable it is.

Only thing I didn't like on the VS200 is the finish, mine scratches easily, but I got a sharkskin for it recently, so I've been using it more lately.

I've had the flawless DNA200 since last September, and its still in great shape, the cerakote finish holds up well.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

 

[NinoCappuccin0]

I vape .15ohms at 155W all night so no, Samsung batteries aren't going to be just fine. I need my 30a continuous at any cost. 1500mAH? Truly 30a? Thanks LG, old buddy. If you decide to remain with a dual 18650 VW/TC box mod, vape with .2ohm coils with power at approximately 70W, enjoy the IPV5...BUT seriously do so with LG's new line I of cells at many sites costing 5 dollars per battery each at between 25 and 30a continuous plus pulsing power that rocks with only 3.6v and 1500mAH (HD2 and HDC2 are between 25a and 30a +) HB2, HB4, HB6, HD2, HDC2, & still the 3000

 

[OldMadScientist]

Looking at (maybe) getting a DNA 200 over another dual 18650 device, but am worried about battery life.

I have really cut down on vaping lately so Im not burning through 50mls a day, closer to 20mls now. A Sig 150 OG w/ HE2s (5000mah) lasts me all day battery wise.

So Im wondering if the following DNA 200 devices would suit my needs.

HCigar VT200- nice aesthetics and cheap, 1200-1300mah LiPo

VS 200- sleek and small with a 900mah LiPo but also zip charging

Flawless- stand out looks 1200-1300mah LiPo (though some reviews Ive seen say it feels cheaply made)

Got a suggestion on another model? Let me know.
I do NOT want the Realeaux, this is going to be my out and about mod when not using a Mech or Reo and I want it to fit in my pocket comfortably.

Otherwise itll be a Sig 150 TC or IPV5

I've tried many different TC mods and the DNA 200 remains the standout -- but you do have to be willing to "tinker" with the settings until you have it setup just the way you like it. The huge benefit is you can set it up just the way you like it. I find myself returning to a DNA 200 to just vape even after trying any other mod all day.

For 20ml a day all day battery life, I think you almost have to go with at least a dual 18650 mod. Triple would be better. Depends on your atty and temp/wattage settings. A 1300mAh lipo will last almost all day so if you can top it up during the day, that might do the job also. Anything less and you will almost certainly have to charge during the day. No big deal to charge during the day unless you don't have access to a charge source.

Let us know what you decide on and how it works out for you.

 

[pescadore]

I only use DNA 200's because I got tired of dealing with inferior products that suck at temperature control and are unreliable. I have two VT200's and they are both outstanding. I work in an office so it is easy to keep it charged by USB connection to my PC or laptop. The Lipo battery is lighter and if I leave work with 100% charge will get me through the night. I will admit though that the one I carry the most is the VT133 with dual 18650's especially if I am going out because it is just so much easier to carry a couple of 18650's around versus a 2nd mod. The Reuleaux DNA200 easily gets me through and entire day without needing a charge but I don't like carrying it around as much due to the weight and it's not as pocket friendly. If I am going on a long trip in the car or just sitting around the house the Reuleax gets the nod most of the time. Choosing a DNA that fits your vaping profile is the most important thing. The DNA 200 chip is a no brainer in my opinion. It is very customizable and Escribe is fairly simple to navigate. Once I set my mods to the way I like them, the only time I use escribe is for the device monitoring just for fun to see how my devices are working. Good luck with your decision and I don't believe you will regret it.

 

[pescadore]

 

[vapefeen]

hello guys and gals,

i just got an hcigar vt200 and am new to the dna 200 world. actually new to the dna chip world all together so i have some questions and i'd appreciate some help! i been vaping for over a year so not a noob but definitely feel like a noob right now!

1st off is there a seperate wattage mode and temp control mode or does the chip automatically detect the coils?
2nd if i have a regular watt coil do i turn off temp in escribe? and for some reason my screen is showing "NI" on the bottom left even though i'm not using a nickel coil, idk if thats because i just upgraded the firmware or if this is normal. i messed around with escribe and cant figure it out. i accidentally opened a file that i thought i can view to see some recomended setting but instead it changed my mod's settings. i did a factory reset but still see the "NI" on screen. please help... btw i did update the battery setting in escribe to 14.43 mh and left cut off at 3.09 but left all other settings the same. is this fine?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Escribe will automatically detect the coil. Unfortunatly that won't work if you are trying to run a SS coil in power mode. I suggest setting up a profile for power mode. Do this by checking the off box in the temperature section on the general tab of Escribe. Don't forget to click the tab on top: Upload Settings to Device when you are finished making changes.

Unless you add kanthal to your material tab you will have to select one of the available wires. The newest version of Escribe comes with Ni200, Ti01, and SS 316 preloaded. Once you check the off box, it really won't matter since it's just running in straight power mode. One other thing, in the screen tab of Escribe, you can select what is shown onscreen.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit Here's a couple of threads you might want to check out:
Tips For Setting Up a DNA200 Mod (FAQ)
Evolv Releases a New Test Firmware Update For The DNA200

 

[vapefeen]

Escribe will automatically detect the coil. Unfortunatly that won't work if you are trying to run a SS coil in power mode. I suggest setting up a profile for power mode. Do this by checking the off box in the temperature section on the general tab of Escribe. Don't forget to click the tab on top: Upload Settings to Device when you are finished making changes.

Unless you add kanthal to your material tab you will have to select one of the available wires. The newest version of Escribe comes with Ni200, Ti01, and SS 316 preloaded. Once you check the off box, it really won't matter since it's just running in straight power mode. One other thing, in the screen tab of Escribe, you can select what is shown onscreen.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit Here's a couple of threads you might want to check out:
Tips For Setting Up a DNA200 Mod (FAQ)
Evolv Releases a New Test Firmware Update For The DNA200


THANK YOU SO MUCH! i will check them out when i get home from work...

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Your Welcome @vapefeen. Here's a custom screen you can use for your Kanthal profile if you're interested.



Or if you just want it too say Power Mode, here's two I just made up for you:

or

Cheers,
Steve

 

[pescadore]

Hope you love your VT200 !! It's a really nice mod. The Escribe software takes a little bit to get accustomed to but you will be navigating around in it in no time.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

@Wingsfan0310 have you seen these

 

[Wingsfan0310]

@Wingsfan0310 have you seen these

Yeah, I posted about it awhile back, before it was even out on this thread (Limited Edition Blood Red Lavabox). I haven't bought one yet because I already have a Reuleaux (3 x 18650) and Hotcig DX200 (2 x 18650) if I need longer battery life. I like the stealthy/smallness of the Lavabox's as is. Not saying I won't buy one, just haven't yet lol. When the time comes to replace the battery(s) I will probably go that route. Thanks for the heads up though.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit Probably more like when Volcano runs another 20% off sale (like when I bought the Blood Red Lavabox) and they get the Red back in stock, I'll buy both