Is everyone sub-ohm vaping?

[Saddletramp1200]

We did stupid things. $ fucks people up. Lack of is worse.

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[TF Vaping]

The big box mods just aren't reliable. They sell a lot of them because they are cheap, or because some are impressed with power numbers on paper- like 1000 watt car amplifiers at Walmart, which are pretty much only good for trunk rattling...

Wire them down to .25 ohm and they are good for fires.
Kinda miss the old dbdrag days.

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[BigNasty]

Wire them down to .25 ohm and they are good for fires.
Kinda miss the old dbdrag days.

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Power don;t mean shit unless it is clean.

 

[TF Vaping]

In extreme classes yes it does lol 14.4v @ .25 nets around 800-900 watts from a Sony 2200. Still a very high 160db, while that isn't shit today in ext, for the time it was hilarious and won the show, didn't wanna chance the 4kws for finals

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[GeneralZod9]

I'm going to use the vs dna200 as an example, it will fire from .1ohm to 2.0ohms. So while if you wanna blow clouds like a mad man with a solid build at couple hundred watts, you can. But if you want to mouth to lung, shouldn't have any problem. So while these newer mods are much much more powerful, they don't need to be put to the limit if that's not what you're into.
So really, newer mods cater to everyone, since really anyone can enjoy them.

Seems if they created a machine that could only vape above the ohm line and max out at like 15 or 20 watts, it wouldn't sell too much while if you make a beast that anyone can use, then it most likely will sell a lot, which is the case we are experiencing now.

I appreciate that larger devices are capable of firing nearly anything and everything. However, I can't see spending $200 on the latest YiHi SX Mini to complete the same task that an ELeaf iStick 30W can handle quite nicely for $30. And while I understand vendors would rather sell a $200 device than a $30 device, I'm surprised the sheer numbers within the community aren’t such that there’s enough sales to be had from plus-ohm vapors that you’d see an equal number of new devices within this market segment.

 

[Nancy_Bout]

Lately I have been solely sub ohm


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[ej1024]

Are we still talking about trucks?


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[MrScaryZ]

Not at all. You claimed sub-ohm was advancing vaping. There is nothing advanced about it. It's extremely simple.

I would agree that it surely is not rocket science and the concept of Buck and Boost in a Mod and talking about High
End chipsets can feel a bit retarded if you do DIY in other electronic fields one of the reasons I get a good laugh every day about vaping

 

[pescadore]

I have never been a smoker. I watched my father die from smoking three packs a day. My wife smoked when we first met and she quit through hypnosis and I was so glad. Years past, kids grew up and then tragedy hit. My middle son who was extremely bi-polar took his life in our home. I could not get any peace or relaxation no matter what I did. My wife wanted to go back to smoking because she said it relaxed her. I went to the vape store and bought us some pen style vapes and I must say that even at 4mg nic it really helped me to relax. Being an obsessive person, I kept upgrading until I got into subohms. The original method of relaxation quickly became a hobby of the search for the best tank then builds, different wire, temp control, rdas and anything else I could get my hands on. I can understand fully how an ex-smoker could be perfectly satisfied with +1 ohm vaping MTL but when you are dealing with an obessive Aspi like me it becomes "WOW, check out that cloud and perfecting your O's. So, here's to 150+ watt mods and Aromamizer RDTA's. Why can't we just all get along !!!!

 

[ej1024]

I have never been a smoker. I watched my father die from smoking three packs a day. My wife smoked when we first met and she quit through hypnosis and I was so glad. Years past, kids grew up and then tragedy hit. My middle son who was extremely bi-polar took his life in our home. I could not get any peace or relaxation no matter what I did. My wife wanted to go back to smoking because she said it relaxed her. I went to the vape store and bought us some pen style vapes and I must say that even at 4mg nic it really helped me to relax. Being an obsessive person, I kept upgrading until I got into subohms. The original method of relaxation quickly became a hobby of the search for the best tank then builds, different wire, temp control, rdas and anything else I could get my hands on. I can understand fully how an ex-smoker could be perfectly satisfied with +1 ohm vaping MTL but when you are dealing with an obessive Aspi like me it becomes "WOW, check out that cloud and perfecting your O's. So, here's to 150+ watt mods and Aromamizer RDTA's. Why can't we just all get along !!!!

THIS


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[pescadore]

Oh crap I forgot to mention DIY e-juice, my newest obsession !!!

 

[ej1024]

It just crazy how a fellow VAPER like the OP is a hater of cloud chaser,
Civic vs Ford Mustang Shelby
Same cars BUT different SPEED and that's what vaping is all about..
If you happy in a civic VAPE on!!
If you wanna go faster get the Shelby...
Don't get it so complicated,
#simplification


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[nightshard]

There is a misleading perception the resistance itself has anything to do with vape quality, this is largely due to the popularity of sub ohm tanks, when in fact it's all about the type of build and surface area of the coil(s).
I build different builds at different resistances, sometimes below and sometimes above 1 ohm, based on the type of atty and number of coils.

What I've said refers to regulated devices, but when using mechs sub ohm is preferable.

 

[GeneralZod9]

It just crazy how a fellow VAPER like the OP is a hater of cloud chaser,

I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. I actually think sub-ohm vaping is quite interesting, it's just not for me. My ONLY point in any of this, is that I find it strange the market appears to be dominated by sub-ohm devices.

 

[smacksy]

It's sad that people put down other people because they prefer to vape differently than they do. Its like the Provari fanboys putting down other folks because they don't use a Provari. The whole point of vaping for me is to remain tobacco free. It just so happens sub ohm satisfies my acquired nicotine addiction better than tootle puffing on a 1.8 ohm Protank..but that is what works for me...

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[ej1024]

I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. I actually think sub-ohm vaping is quite interesting, it's just not for me. My ONLY point in any of this, is that I find it strange the market appears to be dominated by sub-ohm devices.

What is so stranged about it?
Subohm devices like the REGULATED BOX MODS still cater ur 1+ohms.. A lot of this high power or most of them still vapes at 7 watts.
I started low like you, but I moved up, I don't joined cloud competition or bragged about my clouds, i just like a warmer VAPE, decent throat hit at a lower NIC MG and fog.
Like what I said, if you guys like ur 80%pg 20%vg 18-24 mg nicotine as long as it keeps U off the stinkies then that's a win win...
We all VAPERS at a different level
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[pescadore]

I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. I actually think sub-ohm vaping is quite interesting, it's just not for me. My ONLY point in any of this, is that I find it strange the market appears to be dominated by sub-ohm devices.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried subohm vaping for any length of time ?

 

[GeneralZod9]

What is so strange about it?

As someone relatively new to it (six months), I would have expected the vape community (discounting those who vape gas station vapes) would either be split evenly among those that plus-ohm vape and those that sub-ohm vape, or it would skew heavily towards plus-ohm vaping. However, it appears the reverse is true. Which is fine. Given that sub-ohm vaping is based off lung hits and high wattage devices, I would have thought it would constitute a smaller percentage of the community. Again, that doesn’t come with judgement, only my own personal surprise.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried subohm vaping for any length of time ?

I haven’t. It was simply something I didn’t pursue because I found the vapor too hot and have no real interest in doing lung hits. The two attempts I did make were off a .5 coil on a Joyetech eGo One and from a .5 coil using an Eleaf iStick 30W with a Kanger Subtank Nano.

 

[ej1024]

As someone relatively new to it (six months), I would have expected the vape community (discounting those who vape gas station vapes) would either be split evenly among those that plus-ohm vape and those that sub-ohm vape, or it would skew heavily towards plus-ohm vaping. However, it appears the reverse is true. Which is fine. Given that sub-ohm vaping is based off lung hits and high wattage devices, I would have thought it would constitute a smaller percentage of the community. Again, that doesn’t come with judgement, only my own personal surprise.

I haven’t. It was simply something I didn’t pursue because I found the vapor too hot and have no real interest in doing lung hits. The two attempts I did make were off a .5 coil on a Joyetech eGo One and from a .5 coil using an Eleaf iStick 30W with a Kanger Subtank Nano.

6 months?, good job staying off the stinkies,
Well it is what it is now.
Like what I said there's devices out there that will cater for ur needs


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[pescadore]

As someone relatively new to it (six months), I would have expected the vape community (discounting those who vape gas station vapes) would either be split evenly among those that plus-ohm vape and those that sub-ohm vape, or it would skew heavily towards plus-ohm vaping. However, it appears the reverse is true. Which is fine. Given that sub-ohm vaping is based off lung hits and high wattage devices, I would have thought it would constitute a smaller percentage of the community. Again, that doesn’t come with judgement, only my own personal surprise.

I haven’t. It was simply something I didn’t pursue because I found the vapor too hot and have no real interest in doing lung hits. The two attempts I did make were off a .5 coil on a Joyetech eGo One and from a .5 coil using an Eleaf iStick 30W with a Kanger Subtank Nano.

I was the same way first time I tried my sons RDA. I choked for several minutes. I thought no way I would ever want that much vapor. The 1+ thing just stopped being enough and I was in Austin at a conference when I stopped into a vape shop. I told the guy I was wanting to go sub ohm and he gave me a great deal on a Kangertech SubBox Mini. It was pretty inexpensive and I started out fairly slow but loved the increased flavor over the MVP 2.0 and Nautilus tank. I have never looked back since then and It has just mushroomed from there. I can hit a RDA with the best of them now and blow clouds that shock all the youngsters around the house. I just love messin with them !!! The good thing about the Mini is that it also comes with a MTL type coil so you can work into subohm if you care to. No need for hot vape unless you want it. You can control the heat by the wattage.

 

[smacksy]

I was the same way first time I tried my sons RDA. I choked for several minutes. I thought no way I would ever want that much vapor. The 1+ thing just stopped being enough and I was in Austin at a conference when I stopped into a vape shop. I told the guy I was wanting to go sub ohm and he gave me a great deal on a Kangertech SubBox Mini. It was pretty inexpensive and I started out fairly slow but loved the increased flavor over the MVP 2.0 and Nautilus tank. I have never looked back since then and It has just mushroomed from there. I can hit a RDA with the best of them now and blow clouds that shock all the youngsters around the house. I just love messin with them !!! The good thing about the Mini is that it also comes with a MTL type coil so you can work into subohm if you care to. No need for hot vape unless you want it. You can control the heat by the wattage.

You can also control the heat with the wide open adj airflow, and like on my Tfv4 adjust the airflow on the drip tip as well.. at 80 Watts using the tri coil the drip drip helps provide a cool vape, good flavor and thick clouds...sub tanks are getting better and better and better... They have come a long ways in this last year alone and I'm excited to see what they come up with next!

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[BigNasty]

As someone relatively new to it (six months), I would have expected the vape community (discounting those who vape gas station vapes) would either be split evenly among those that plus-ohm vape and those that sub-ohm vape, or it would skew heavily towards plus-ohm vaping. However, it appears the reverse is true. Which is fine. Given that sub-ohm vaping is based off lung hits and high wattage devices, I would have thought it would constitute a smaller percentage of the community. Again, that doesn’t come with judgement, only my own personal surprise.

I haven’t. It was simply something I didn’t pursue because I found the vapor too hot and have no real interest in doing lung hits. The two attempts I did make were off a .5 coil on a Joyetech eGo One and from a .5 coil using an Eleaf iStick 30W with a Kanger Subtank Nano.

Wow umm, a good set up is a lot cooler.
Kind of like getting into professional boxing using queensbury rules and facing tyson.. Sure you are doing it but it is gunna suck.

 

[MrScaryZ]

It's sad that people put down other people because they prefer to vape differently than they do. Its like the Provari fanboys putting down other folks because they don't use a Provari. The whole point of vaping for me is to remain tobacco free. It just so happens sub ohm satisfies my acquired nicotine addiction better than tootle puffing on a 1.8 ohm Protank..but that is what works for me...

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I agree with you a year ago we used RDA's and that was only for the die hards.. If no one would have ever sub-ohmed we would have been fine..
In fact I still fire up dual coil cartos from time to time.. Its a part of human nature get everyone on a Bandwagon marketing is partly to blame and in the end sadly anyone that came from the Old world of + 1.0 ohm vaping that now criticizes it is just freaking insane

 

[Time]

As someone relatively new to it (six months), I would have expected the vape community (discounting those who vape gas station vapes) would either be split evenly among those that plus-ohm vape and those that sub-ohm vape, or it would skew heavily towards plus-ohm vaping. However, it appears the reverse is true. Which is fine. Given that sub-ohm vaping is based off lung hits and high wattage devices, I would have thought it would constitute a smaller percentage of the community. Again, that doesn’t come with judgement, only my own personal surprise.

I haven’t. It was simply something I didn’t pursue because I found the vapor too hot and have no real interest in doing lung hits. The two attempts I did make were off a .5 coil on a Joyetech eGo One and from a .5 coil using an Eleaf iStick 30W with a Kanger Subtank Nano.

Don't let the forum fool you. There is a very tiny percentage of the vaping population that posts on vaping forums. These are mostly cloud chasers trying to get bigger clouds and DIY juice makers. The vast majority of the population cares about neither. I don't hang out at vaping shops. It's rare for me to see a person on the street blowing clouds. Most are vaping +ohm.

 

[MrScaryZ]

Don't let the forum fool you. There is a very tiny percentage of the vaping population that posts on vaping forums. These are mostly cloud chasers trying to get bigger clouds and DIY juice makers. The vast majority of the population cares about neither. I don't hang out at vaping shops. It's rare for me to see a person on the street blowing clouds. Most are vaping +ohm.

I agree in fact the other day as I was out and about I felt like a fool blowing big clouds around .. I scared an Older couple.. A child said "Mommy Mommy what is that man doing" I surely like sub-homing but it looks god darned ridiculous in public
Fucking ridiculous it is!!

 

[Saddletramp1200]

Only other living creatures that see my clouds are my Dogs, & they could care less. Vaping works my lungs, that's why I do it. Breathing is a good thing.

 

[GeneralZod9]

Wow umm, a good set up is a lot cooler.

That's fair. Is there a set up you would recommend? Keep in mind, I'm not looking to drip and I'm not into rebuildables. For me, simplicity is a bigger factor than cost.

 

[GeneralZod9]

Don't let the forum fool you. There is a very tiny percentage of the vaping population that posts on vaping forums. These are mostly cloud chasers trying to get bigger clouds and DIY juice makers. The vast majority of the population cares about neither. I don't hang out at vaping shops. It's rare for me to see a person on the street blowing clouds. Most are vaping +ohm.

Understood. I was basing it less on the forum and more upon the sheer amount of new devices available in each space (sub-ohn vs. plus-ohm). Just seems like the number of new sub-ohm devices coming out is far outpacing the number of new plus-ohm devices.

 

[BigNasty]

That's fair. Is there a set up you would recommend? Keep in mind, I'm not looking to drip and I'm not into rebuildables. For me, simplicity is a bigger factor than cost.

Tons of options on the market. I suggest going to a decent vape shop that at least has a decent selection and see if any are able to be tried.
Your own drip tip or tip condom test.

 

[Time]

Understood. I was basing it less on the forum and more upon the sheer amount of new devices available in each space (sub-ohn vs. plus-ohm). Just seems like the number of new sub-ohm devices coming out is far outpacing the number of new plus-ohm devices.

That's true but the answer is simple. Manufacturers tend to try and "one up" their competitors. There is very little to progress for a vaping device. Making it cool looking and adding some buttons only goes so far. It's been done already. The only easy "one up" left was watts.

There was literally no where left to go but up. Higher watts. I suppose they could make some sort of mod with bluetooth so we could fire our vape with our phones.

 

[teeroy]

There was literally no where left to go but up. Higher watts. I suppose they could make some sort of mod with bluetooth so we could fire our vape with our phones.

I want to see a sub ohm tank with tiny LED's inside so when you hit the button they light up.

 

[Saddletramp1200]

This is going to sound screwy but I have been thinking about just that. I think the idea is novel. This can be used in stereo devices from a phone app. Why not a Mod? It's a hobby right?

 

[ej1024]

What about
VAPHONE....


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[Bean8379]

I have tried sub ohm and plus ohm. My current theory is that a plus ohm coil with a few extra watts on a regulated device will perform better than a sub ohm on a mech. I am currently using a mech. I have found that sub ohm coils take longer to warm up due to needing more power. But if you take a plus ohm coil and up the watts a little bit, it will warm up faster. I will soon have a regulated device, and I don't think I will sub-ohm. I'm getting a 30w, and I ran some numbers, a .69 coil will draw about 25w on my mech, so even at that resistance it only gives me 5w to play with on my regulated device. I don't see much point to that. I suppose I could turn down the voltage and up the wattage, but I think the end result is going to be the same. A +ohm coil can still warm up faster. Not only that, I don't feel like building coils every other day trying to figure out what is best. Already went through that on my mech. I'm just gonna go with a 1.2ohm coil on my rda and slowly up the watts till I'm happy. I already have a 1ohm coil in my tank.

 

[guyakaguy]

I never got strange looks in the hood when I had my Ego. I would still get the hoods coming up and asking to bum a square or "get a short", until they realized I didn't have a cigarette. Never got (or overhead) any comments from coworkers.

My mod and sub-ohm tank in the hood? Different story altogether. First of all EVERYBODY looks at me funny and people driving by slow down or even stop in the middle of the road and look at me like I'm standing there in my birthday suit. On the upside I haven't had anyone ask me for a cigarette. I have had coworkers make comments, though.

I don't know if people in the hood don't know what I'm doing or think I'm doing 'something else'.

I prefer sub-ohm if it means a higher powered box in comparison to an ego-style battery and tank. I've vaped 1.2 and 1.5 on my mod and the flavor is good, but I like the warmth of the sub-ohm vape.

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[stevegmu]

Understood. I was basing it less on the forum and more upon the sheer amount of new devices available in each space (sub-ohn vs. plus-ohm). Just seems like the number of new sub-ohm devices coming out is far outpacing the number of new plus-ohm devices.

They break faster, wear out faster, burn through coils faster, cost more, use more e-liquid and are 'outdated' every couple months... No wonder Big Vapor pushes high wattage devices...

 

[ej1024]

They break faster, wear out faster, burn through coils faster, cost more, use more e-liquid and are 'outdated' every couple months... No wonder Big Vapor pushes high wattage devices...

Break faster??? Which
Wear out faster??? Which
Cost more??? Are u kidding me
Use more liquid? Nope. Chain VAPERS uses more juice.
Outdated? Let's say new models
They push big vapor? Off course. Won't you, if own Sigelei !!
stop hating
Jeez!!


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[Saddletramp1200]

I sit back & observe.

 

[stevegmu]

Break faster??? Which
Wear out faster??? Which
Cost more??? Are u kidding me
Use more liquid? Nope. Chain VAPERS uses more juice.
Outdated? Let's say new models
They push big vapor? Off course. Won't you, if own Sigelei !!
stop hating
Jeez!!


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Batteries which are pushed to the limit wear out faster, as do mods... Yes, the higher wattage, the higher the price...Sub ohm vapers I know use 30-40ml.day... Yes. The forums and Youtube convince some the 40 watt box mod is outdated when the 50 watt mod is released...Yes, Big Vapor wants sub ohm vapers to continually buy mods, tanks, coils, batteries...

 

[ej1024]

Batteries which are pushed to the limit wear out faster, as do mods... Yes, the higher wattage, the higher the price...Sub ohm vapers I know use 30-40ml.day... Yes. The forums and Youtube convince some the 40 watt box mod is outdated when the 50 watt mod is released...Yes, Big Vapor wants sub ohm vapers to continually buy mods, tanks, coils, batteries...

Batteries wearing out?
Solution-REGULATED BOX MODS
Higher the wattage the higher the price
ARE YOU SURE??? Google it
30 -40 mls per day WHOA WOW WHOA WHOW WHOA WOW, they must be DIY VAPERS...
It's called BUISNESS


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[Saddletramp1200]

All I am going to say is, If you can't afford to do something, then don't do it.

 

[stevegmu]

Batteries wearing out?
Solution-REGULATED BOX MODS
Higher the wattage the higher the price
ARE YOU SURE??? Google it
30 -40 mls per day WHOA WOW WHOA WHOW WHOA WOW, they must be DIY VAPERS...
It's called BUISNESS


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You don't think lipo bags wear out faster if they are charged/discharged more frequently? They do. Yes, every generation of iStick cost more than the lower wattage one...
No, they like lab e-liquid...
Yes, Big Vapor...

 

[ej1024]

You don't think lipo bags wear out faster if they are charged/discharged more frequently? They do. Yes, every generation of iStick cost more than the lower wattage one...
No, they like lab e-liquid...
Yes, Big Vapor...

Everything wears out
Nothing last forever,
Ur dumb if u SUB OHM AND USE A REGULATED BOX WITH LIPO BATTERY!!
LIPO are NO NO for us subohmers!
Lab eliquid??
Are u in America bro?


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[stevegmu]

Everything wears out
Nothing last forever,
Ur dumb if u SUB OHM AND USE A REGULATED BOX WITH LIPO BATTERY!!
LIPO are NO NO for us subohmers!
Lab eliquid??
Are u in America bro?


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Really? Many box mods have lipo bags... Wow, you don't now what lab e-liquid is, opposed to B&M brew or DIY...

 

[Bean8379]

I never got strange looks in the hood when I had my Ego. I would still get the hoods coming up and asking to bum a square or "get a short", until they realized I didn't have a cigarette. Never got (or overhead) any comments from coworkers.

My mod and sub-ohm tank in the hood? Different story altogether. First of all EVERYBODY looks at me funny and people driving by slow down or even stop in the middle of the road and look at me like I'm standing there in my birthday suit. On the upside I haven't had anyone ask me for a cigarette. I have had coworkers make comments, though.

I don't know if people in the hood don't know what I'm doing or think I'm doing 'something else'.

I prefer sub-ohm if it means a higher powered box in comparison to an ego-style battery and tank. I've vaped 1.2 and 1.5 on my mod and the flavor is good, but I like the warmth of the sub-ohm vape.

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I wouldn't be vaping with people stopping in the middle of the road staring at me. First of all, none of their fucking business what I'm doing. Second of all, creeps me the fuck out. I got a real serious problem with people staring at me.

 

[ej1024]

Really? Many box mods have lipo bags... Wow, you don't now what lab e-liquid is, opposed to B&M brew or DIY...

Yes wow lab e liquid enlightened me please
LIPO BATTERIES FOR SUB OHMING??
Name one?
I'm aware of mods with LIPO
Yes you can safely subohm .3 and up Istick 50 pretty much design for tanks, IMO
FOR. Cloud chaser I VAPE from
.1-.17ohms that LIPO will go BOOM


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[stevegmu]

Yes wow lab e liquid enlightened me please
LIPO BATTERIES FOR SUB OHMING??
Name one?
I'm aware of mods with LIPO
Yes you can safely subohm .3 and up Istick 50 pretty much design for tanks, IMO
FOR. Cloud chaser I VAPE from
.1-.17ohms that LIPO will go BOOM


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Many DNA 200 mods have lipo bag batteries. Vapers don't buy them for use with 2ohm coils at 7 watts... I'm not quite sure you understand what sub ohm vaping is...

 

[Saddletramp1200]

Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

 

[ej1024]

Many DNA 200 mods have lipo bag batteries. Vapers don't buy them for use with 2ohm coils at 7 watts... I'm not quite sure you understand what sub ohm vaping is...

Name me 3 DNA 200 mods? with LIPO?
Educate me please


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[ej1024]

Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

This is educational bro
Please give some input on this topic



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