Could but just annoying as heck.Surprised you couldn't hold an 808 in your teeth. Same size and weight as a 510 just different thread. Maybe my jaws are just stronger lol
As I have been saying more complicated than smoking.
Could but just annoying as heck.Surprised you couldn't hold an 808 in your teeth. Same size and weight as a 510 just different thread. Maybe my jaws are just stronger lol
After the 808's I moved up to this. Stubby Ego's with 808 threads and little 808 clearos.
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Who didn't have an Ego-twist back in the day. Then the first sub-ohm kanger tank on the eleaf i-stick, lol.Then I moved up to real Egos and T2S and Evod clearos.
Then Subtank minis, with a real mod
The rest is history.
Who didn't have an Ego-twist back in the day. Then the first sub-ohm kanger tank on the eleaf i-stick, lol.
For some strange reason, I read that as VV Ergos...VV Egos
I realize this is an old post now, but I had to chime in. I have an old high school friend who's been smoking the last 30+ yrs. She doesn't live nearby but I told her about vaping and she sounded interested but is the kind to kick the can down the road...I stopped trying to convert people, too. Vaping is something you have to want to do and you have to be willing to treat it like a journey rather than a destination. I find that the vast majority of smokers are not the type of person to switch to vaping successfully.
Same shit happened to me a couple of years ago. My neighbor wanted to quit smoking,I realize this is an old post now, but I had to chime in. I have an old high school friend who's been smoking the last 30+ yrs. She doesn't live nearby but I told her about vaping and she sounded interested but is the kind to kick the can down the road...
So got her a kit, 18650 batt and Xtar charger, a good tank, and even asked what flavors she likes, and she said DILL PICKLE if you can believe it, but found Dill Pickle flavoring at TFA. Asked what cigs/nic she smoked and mixed her a big bottle of DIY juice at the proper nic concentration. Included a printed Word doc guide (I wrote) that explained how vaping works and how to change her coils, mix new juice, etc. Had her tank filled, her battery charged, extra coils, and everything ready to lift out of the box and vape. Sent it all with a bottle of nic, VG, the flavoring (and extra flavorings) etc.
Few days later I hadn't heard. Emailed and asked if she got it. She said yeah but she was too busy to open it cause she had to do taxes. (This is totally like her.) And she never mentioned it again. That was 5 yrs ago. I didn't ask anymore. Spent $200 and a lot of time and effort in hopes she would stop smoking.
So yeah. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink. Lesson learned.
All true but it was funny (planning to take a pull which involves nothing more than pushing a button). Fact is, there are people who by nature take an interest in things and "get into it" - and there are others who don't WANT to have to learn one single damn thing. They just 'want it to work' and if there's any effort at all involved, they aren't interested.Yep it requires battery (charged), juice applied every few draws if dripping refill tank if squonk. Clean replace coil wick. And make sure everything is always in supply and handy.
A bit of cursing if mech and contacts not working right (cleaning).
Put in pocket, bend over hear hissing and feel warmth in pocket. Crap did not lock the mod!
Now rewick, etc... extinguish pants if too noisy around to hear atty hissing.
vs pulling a cig out of a pack (which does not leak juice in yer pocket), lighting it, inhaling it and tossing the butt.
You can also hold a cig in yer mouth and smoke it while doing other stuff with your hands...
Jesus H she could have at least given it all back to you and thanked you for the time and trouble. (That's what I wish my friend would have done - that was a sweet little mod I got for her! If she wasn't going to use it, I would have!)Same shit happened to me a couple of years ago. My neighbor wanted to quit smoking,
I set her up with a Drag mod, a Smok BBB tank, some spare coils, 2 batteries, and 120ml of juice (Uncle Junks Jon Wayne)
3 days later i saw her smoking again. I asked her WTF and she said she didn't like it. She sold my gear to a pawn shop.
Never again!
I didn't Went from Bloog cigalikes to a Vamo with a Kanger tank. Good ole Kanger... LOL... Tried a million cartos and when they hit good they were great, but half the pack wouldn't hit at all, and nearly all the rest were screwy with one or two good ones.Who didn't have an Ego-twist back in the day. Then the first sub-ohm kanger tank on the eleaf i-stick, lol.
I realize this is an old post now, but I had to chime in. I have an old high school friend who's been smoking the last 30+ yrs. She doesn't live nearby but I told her about vaping and she sounded interested but is the kind to kick the can down the road...
So got her a kit, 18650 batt and Xtar charger, a good tank, and even asked what flavors she likes, and she said DILL PICKLE if you can believe it, but found Dill Pickle flavoring at TFA. Asked what cigs/nic she smoked and mixed her a big bottle of DIY juice at the proper nic concentration. Included a printed Word doc guide (I wrote) that explained how vaping works and how to change her coils, mix new juice, etc. Had her tank filled, her battery charged, extra coils, and everything ready to lift out of the box and vape. Sent it all with a bottle of nic, VG, the flavoring (and extra flavorings) etc.
Few days later I hadn't heard. Emailed and asked if she got it. She said yeah but she was too busy to open it cause she had to do taxes. (This is totally like her.) And she never mentioned it again. That was 5 yrs ago. I didn't ask anymore. Spent $200 and a lot of time and effort in hopes she would stop smoking.
So yeah. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink. Lesson learned.
She sold my gear to a pawn shop.
What makes that perplexing in this case is that I don't know many smokers who aren't afraid that smoking will one day 'be the death of them' - so you'd THINK they would JUMP at the chance to switch - if for no other reason, some added peace of mind that you no longer have to worry "you are a smoker."
2) I have had smokers come up to me and TELL ME that vaping was going to kill me. Yeah, you read that right
Vaping is too involved when you compare it to smoking prefabricated cigarettes.
That sort of thing happens to my RDA only once per day.some supernatural phenomenon happening with his RTA
Being a roll your own cigarette smoker doesn't necessarily always mean more being involved, though. In the vast majority of cases it's just an easy way to save more money thus requiring less involvement compared to earning the money back another way. Also, I have yet to come across a smoker with an earnest plea about anything much. They are addicts with the too-frequent mindset of addicts. Some of the smarter ones will figure it all out by theirself, while the rest of them just stick to their habitual-old convictions and uninformed/biased premeditations. There's very little grey zone between these two opposites from what I can tell, and, why should a person ask for help when fact of the matter remains that the vast majority of those willing to offer help are too complacent to admit that their own usual "if it worked for me, it should work for you" type of mentality isn't factually helping others. Vicious circles are vicious.And trust me, it's really not any easier had she lived right next to you where you could hold her hand.
Some smokers only have 2 options...
1) Keep smoking
2) Try to quit altogether (and unfortunately, most likely with pharmaceuticals).
Vaping isn't an option for certain smokers (probably most).
Vaping is too involved when you compare it to smoking prefabricated cigarettes.
There is only one way I would ever, at this point, help a smoker switch to vaping. They would have to
- be a current roll your own cigarette smoker (this tells me they don't mind some involvement in their new habit)
- come to me with what appears to be an earnest plea to help them switch to vaping. IN fact, if they currently have a vaping device, that would be better, no matter how shitty it is.
Some people are very addicted to teh act of smoking. I am one of those people, which is shy I searched high and low to find cigalies that will satisfy me and succeeded. I still use them today along with my box mods. Sometimes I just have that urge to have a smoke and a box mod doesn't do it. The act of smoking a cogarete is nothing like using a box mod.
Where else could you go to buy your flash powder?This world is full of NonPlayable Characters (NPCs), bud.
Jesus H she could have at least given it all back to you and thanked you for the time and trouble. (That's what I wish my friend would have done - that was a sweet little mod I got for her! If she wasn't going to use it, I would have!)
But yeah, me too. Never again.
That aside there is another valid point in not comparing vaping to smoking. Vaping is not smoking. Why then continue to compare it?
And that's the point. Yes, it's been given to them freely and with a good heart, but then like you say, you'd think out of kindness they'd at least say, "You know, that was so nice of you and I did give it a try but for some reason it's just not for me. I hate just letting this stuff sit and wondered if maybe you know someone else who might like to try it, or maybe you can use it yourself... ? But again, thanks so much for thinking of me. That was really kind of you..."I try to remind myself, when you give somebody something, then it's theirs and they can do what they want with it, but I also think of what I'd do under the same circumstances, and that's when I get a little flustered.
My point is this. People are largely brainwashed. Even a smoker is brainwashed to believe that vaping is bad for you, and even worse than smoking.
This world is full of NonPlayable Characters (NPCs), bud. Mindless robots who just spew the filth they are fed by the media - all of it.
What if I told you that tobacco control has been actively running this same scam on every (non pharma) safer nicotine product than cigarettes to hit the market for over three decades now?
Many people reading this would probably say that there was no safer nicotine product on the market 30 years ago.
That's how good these people are at brainwashing the masses.
What if I told you that tobacco control has been actively running this same scam on every (non pharma) safer nicotine product than cigarettes to hit the market for over three decades now?
Many people reading this would probably say that there was no safer nicotine product on the market 30 years ago.
That's how good these people are at brainwashing the masses.
Had that happen many times - but I still vape around smokers, despite the stench
Sometimes you can at least plant a seed
I wouldn't mind planting the seed by just me being around, if only I could tolerate that gawd-awful, revolting stench ?
But I can't, so they'll have to plant their own seeds
1) Because vaping is habit largely something smokers use to get away from or at least reduce smoking.
2) Because my post was about smokers switching to vaping to replace their smoking habit with something else.
3) That's how smoker's see it.
I have not smoked in probably 9 years, but I'm a smoker at heart.
if only I could tolerate that gawd-awful, revolting stench ?
I never thought the day would come that Tobacco Smoke was revolting but it happened to me years ago now. When a Heavy Smokers drives by my vehicle it smells disgusting and that is only what is traveling into my vehicle from theirs. Forget being near actual smoke~!
It existed in other areas too, I'm sure, but the tobacco companies are the ones who "outed" The Grand Lie as selling strategy.
It's what they call moving up the proverbial ladder, which, lucky for them of course, some are capable to do. Most addicts are less fortunate, as they will chop the ladder up and use it next to build theirself a nice campfire... reason I know how all this works is simply because I saw both the promise and the campfire.I started with a sub par device, saw that it had promise and then sought out a better device.
Yuppers. It's because when served over a bottle of nice Chianti they taste good.People have brains for a reason.
And beyond that, The Big Lie has existed throughout history as the main autocratic strategy to control the masses in order to keep a dictator in place. So maybe oil and tobacco got their cue from that. Just a subtler form of it. Attack and discredit the opposition through lies and propaganda. As they've done with vaping.Think they possibly learned it from Big Oil. That's another horse though so I digress. Merely felt compelled to put that out there.
OK Dr. Lector, it was a little early in the day for that one, here on the West Coast.Yuppers. It's because when served over a bottle of nice Chianti they taste good.
Wow... I assume he had to have tried vaping since you vape. What was his reason for not liking it? Too much trouble? Or .. ??Sadly and tragically, Mr Juicy Lucy still smokes; I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much.
Wow... I assume he had to have tried vaping since you vape. What was his reason for not liking it? Too much trouble? Or .. ??
Stubborn, he just doesn't want to quit
And of course the more I'd try to get him to try it, the more resistant he got, so I just quit talking to him about it.
Maybe if he'd come up with the idea instead of his wife.Stubborn, he just doesn't want to quit
I don't know if this was meant as a funny or if you were serious, but I think you might have possibly nailed itMaybe if he'd come up with the idea instead of his wife.
I don't know if this was meant as a funny or if you were serious, but I think you might have possibly nailed it