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tophersaboss

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Any info would help what I made so far isn't terrible but it isn't good . The taste is very feint and I use like 20-25% flavoring . Right now I have forest fruit . Strawberry . Raspberry . Custard . And ethyl ... Help me out please


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wow does it taste like soap or medicine at all? There is a excel spreadsheet somewhere in the diy section that gives the suggested flavoring amounts might wanna look at that. Also like @Huckleberried said if its fa..So a helpful hint would be when you ask for help to list the type of flavoring you are using. Because each type has a different recommendation for amount to use. There is a beginners guide to diy also as a sticky in this section that can help alot. Lots of good info here just read away lol. Hope this helps you out some.
 

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Alright thanks , I was told by someone else that 30% collectively is good . Thanks for the info


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tophersaboss

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So how much would you recommend total for flavoring 15% or so ?


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Will do thanks , how long do I steep ? And is it true you can mircowave it for 8 seconds and shake it a lot and it would be like it steeped for a couple weeks?


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Will do thanks , how long do I steep ? And is it true you can mircowave it for 8 seconds and shake it a lot and it would be like it steeped for a couple weeks?


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Most of the FA flavors really don't need much steeping, 24hrs normally.
Safer just to use a hot water bath using tap water, rather than the Micro.
 

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Good deal thanks , do you recommend pg ? My local vape shop said its not necessary because the flavors themselves are pg based


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Good deal thanks , do you recommend pg ? My local vape shop said its not necessary because the flavors themselves are pg based


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Beginners to DIY should start with a 50PG/50VG mix when developing recipes so you can actually taste them.
Or even 70PG/30VG.
After you get the hang of it start raising the VG ratio slowly and retest if needed.
Easier to figure out what went wrong that way IMO.
(Make small batches of recipes at first, (like 10ml), until you get it tweaked to your liking).
(Just so you don't have to dump 30ml if your mix goes south).
 
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I only use flavoring from The Flavor Apprentice and I rarely have to go higher than 5%.
I make a base solution of 75%VG/ 25%PG including my Nic (which is a VG base). I make it in 500ML batches.

Then I add 5% flavoring into 30ML bottles and fill it up with my premade base solution. It results in a 70/30 mix.

For quick steeps, I use a mini crockpot from Walmart filled with 2 inches of water, and "cook" my juice for 30 minutes or so.

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So how much would you recommend total for flavoring 15% or so ?


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Not more than 10% at max. You are blasting your tastebuds and probably getting vapers tongue.
 

Heabob

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Then I add 5% flavoring into 30ML bottles and fill it up with my premade base solution. It results in a 70/30 mix.
This is fine for an experienced mixer with their favorite mixes, but I wouldn't recommend this for a new DIY'er.
Dumping out 30ml when you have a bad recipe just sux;).
 

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This is fine for an experienced mixer with their favorite mixes, but I wouldn't recommend this for a new DIY'er.
Dumping out 30ml when you have a bad recipe just sux;).


What Heabob said. I'm comfortable with doing something similar to established recipes that I've developed over the last couple of years. When I'm working on a new project I don't make more than 10mL at a time for testing.

Above all take notes of flavors, percentages used and well everything. Notes prevent making the same mistakes over and over.
 

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This is fine for an experienced mixer with their favorite mixes, but I wouldn't recommend this for a new DIY'er.
Dumping out 30ml when you have a bad recipe just sux;).

That is a good point, and I have in fact dumped a few 30 ml bottles because of a bad flavor.

However, a gallon of juice costs me under $100 to make. So dumping a 30 ml bottle of bad stuff is less than a dollar lost.
 

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However, a gallon of juice costs me under $100 to make. So dumping a 30 ml bottle of bad stuff is less than a dollar lost.

Valid point, but suppose I'm just plain cheap:D.
 

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Any info would help what I made so far isn't terrible but it isn't good . The taste is very feint and I use like 20-25% flavoring . Right now I have forest fruit . Strawberry . Raspberry . Custard . And ethyl ... Help me out please


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Using too much raspberry and strawberries made some of my mixes taste like robotussin. Its like cooking. Keep at it and you'll learn . now I don't use recipes . I just mix out of my head and just kind of know how much of what to use.

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Hey again so I just made a mix 10ml , 9 1/5 mix , 2/5 custard , 1/5 marsh , 1/5 raspberry ... Now that's like 9 % or so , is that to much ? Should I add like 5 more ml of mix ?? I don't wanna have to dump shit again


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Kinser

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Hey again so I just made a mix 10ml , 9 1/5 mix , 2/5 custard , 1/5 marsh , 1/5 raspberry ... Now that's like 9 % or so , is that to much ? Should I add like 5 more ml of mix ?? I don't wanna have to dump shit again


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Uh...maybe I'm reading this wrong, but...it seems that you are saying that you made 10mL of flavoring by the way you wrote. Not that there is anything wrong with that, people who have known recipes--that is to say the recipe is not "under development"-- have been known to mix flavor concentrates together and then add them to unflavored liquid at the total ratio.

For example if I were to want to make peaches-n-cream using my recipe I'd add 19% of the volume with the flavor concentrate I made for peaches-n-cream. For a 30ml bottle it would call for 2.4ml tfa juicy peach, 1.5ml tfa Bavarian cream, 1.2ml tfa sweet cream, and 0.6ml tfa marshmallow, for a total 5.7ml flavoring, the rest unflavored e-liquid of your preference. In my case the result would be aproximately 60/40 pg/vg, with 4.7ish mg/ml of nic.

If that is the case, you probably could vape what you created but I would start testing at 5% total flavor. And working your way up if it isn't to your liking. Assuming these are decent flavors to start with it would seem to be a decent vape (though it might need a tweek here or there).

Like cooking where one can always add salt but can't take it out, in e-liquid one can add flavor but not take it out.

Also the peaches-n-cream recipe is TFA Juicy Peach @ 8%, TFA Bavarian Cream @ 5%, TFA Sweet Cream @ 4% and TFA Marshmallow at 2%. IF one want's to get technical it isn't actually mine, I copied the recipe from someone on this forum but I can't remember who (if the person who did originally post this recipe drops by and reads this--mad props on some awesome sauce). It needs to age for a week at least (three days if you hot bath it twice) before it gets good. I love dripping it in the morning with coffee.
 

tophersaboss

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Sorry I meant 9 and 1/5 was pg/vg mix ... The rest (4/5) was flavor


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