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also thinking out loud here......

isn't it a bit sad that a place with 8 times as many members couldn't muster more votes than this little upstart joint? that just shows me that this place's members are more loyal, while ECF members merely tolerate the place for the benefits it offers, sans the loyalty.

p.s. i tried to post this on that thread over there, but it was already closed.

i like both places. when i want to be a prude, i come here. when i want to be myself, i go there. :p

8x the members and most of them are banned :D
 

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I'm not sure why you even post on this thread considering that all I get out of your post is that you dont care about ECF....it's all about your "never been there" above it all opinion, yet you feel the need to say so...for some odd reason...apparently, you have a strong opinion and take a position on and about something that you havent even experienced the same as others, at the same site, but it just needs to be said...lol...what I said applies to those that have...and you wouldnt even know why since you haven't even been there...and IT DOES make a difference, regardless of your self important proclamation that it doesnt...makes no sense at all really...carry on with some more of your qualified to speak on the subject rant...

Wait, since I was not a member of the other forum, apparently my take on the emotional investment people are making, is somehow bullshit?

LMAO. This isn't the first forum I have been a member of, but it IS the first vape forum for me. Apparently, your life is so devoid of fulfillment, that a vape forum causes you to obsess over it? Ok........

Come on, SURELY you see what I am telling you...

You are giving them EXACTLY what they want. Power over YOU. YOU are allowing them to dictate your emotions, over a piece of the internet that makes not one iota of difference. Yet, you freely give them the power to anguish your existence.

ALLLLLLRIGHTY then......
 

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She should talk about honesty, she goes to other forums under different user names and grabs what SHE thinks are tidbits back to ECF contacts the staff with so called tidbits, to earn her iddy biddy points in ass kissing, so there is a known mole out in the open for all to see.Waves @ Salem:)

Im sure we can send them back with a few special "tidbits".
 

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Wait, since I was not a member of the other forum, apparently my take on the emotional investment people are making, is somehow bullshit?

LMAO. This isn't the first forum I have been a member of, but it IS the first vape forum for me. Apparently, your life is so devoid of fulfillment, that a vape forum causes you to obsess over it? Ok........

Come on, SURELY you see what I am telling you...

You are giving them EXACTLY what they want. Power over YOU. YOU are allowing them to dictate your emotions, over a piece of the internet that makes not one iota of difference. Yet, you freely give them the power to anguish your existence.

ALLLLLLRIGHTY then......


Actually your wrong. We are revealing in upsetting and dethroning the powers that be -- and we did it because we are everything they aren't. A vision that was said CAN'T BE DONE - and we did it in under 9 months. So its party time!

Are we going to smile? Yep
Are we going to laugh? Yep
Are we going to gloat? DAMN STRAIGHT!
 

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Wait, since I was not a member of the other forum, apparently my take on the emotional investment people are making, is somehow bullshit?

LMAO. This isn't the first forum I have been a member of, but it IS the first vape forum for me. Apparently, your life is so devoid of fulfillment, that a vape forum causes you to obsess over it? Ok........

Come on, SURELY you see what I am telling you...

You are giving them EXACTLY what they want. Power over YOU. YOU are allowing them to dictate your emotions, over a piece of the internet that makes not one iota of difference. Yet, you freely give them the power to anguish your existence.

ALLLLLLRIGHTY then......

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Riiiiight, it was because non-vaping people voted for VU, that's the ticket. LOL, talk about living in denial
 

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Classwife closed the thread:

"Nope, sorry...

Not going to play the trolling games here.



There is a Forum out there to suit everyone's needs...

ECF is a work safe and family safe forum.

Participate where you are comfortable and enjoy your vaping !

Happy New Year All !
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That is really some disingenuous BS....ECF requires members be of majority age...."family friendly"???....its an 18 and over site....who are adults allowing to read it?..."work safe"???.....go to work and work for Christ sakes...dont read ECF...just another handy excuse to close a thread that doesnt make ECF look good...
 

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Wait, since I was not a member of the other forum, apparently my take on the emotional investment people are making, is somehow bullshit?

LMAO. This isn't the first forum I have been a member of, but it IS the first vape forum for me. Apparently, your life is so devoid of fulfillment, that a vape forum causes you to obsess over it? Ok........

Come on, SURELY you see what I am telling you...

You are giving them EXACTLY what they want. Power over YOU. YOU are allowing them to dictate your emotions, over a piece of the internet that makes not one iota of difference. Yet, you freely give them the power to anguish your existence.

ALLLLLLRIGHTY then......
As usual you are completely full of shit.
 

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Wait, since I was not a member of the other forum, apparently my take on the emotional investment people are making, is somehow bullshit?

LMAO. This isn't the first forum I have been a member of, but it IS the first vape forum for me. Apparently, your life is so devoid of fulfillment, that a vape forum causes you to obsess over it? Ok........

Come on, SURELY you see what I am telling you...

You are giving them EXACTLY what they want. Power over YOU. YOU are allowing them to dictate your emotions, over a piece of the internet that makes not one iota of difference. Yet, you freely give them the power to anguish your existence.

ALLLLLLRIGHTY then......
I'm still waiting for you to post something of relevant value concerning the subject matter....I've seen nothing thus far.....except an opinion based on not much and some psychoanalysis you likely arent qualified to give......I'll wait for some substance from you, but I wont hold my breath....lol
 

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Actually your wrong. We are revealing in upsetting and dethroning the powers that be -- and we did it because we are everything they aren't. A vision that was said CAN'T BE DONE - and we did it in under 9 months. So its party time!

Are we going to smile? Yep
Are we going to laugh? Yep
Are we going to gloat? DAMN STRAIGHT!

I have no issues with your reasons. I actually think it is pretty cool VU took top awards in such an infancy as a forum.

But for some here, it's about poking back at the other place. Not really about celebrating your true win as much as it is sticking their tongue out at the other place.
 

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You seriously are all upset with her saying this:
Am I upset? No. Classwife locking threads is as reliable as the time of day. I can't speak for others, obviously, but here is my issue with ECF:

When you do a Google search for vaping information, ECF is one of the top results. ECF is going to be among the first stops for newbies, which puts them in a very powerful and important position in the vaping industry and community.

Their antics are destructive to everyone. It's a turn-off to newbies who are looking for a source of credible information, they abuse members, and shake down vendors. The amount of overzealous moderators there is actually laughable. You can't even type "Vaping Underground" or "Vapor Joes" because they're censored.

It should speak volumes that this site, young as it is, with 1/16th the membership numbers, defeated ECF in a reader voted poll. It should also speak volumes that Vapor Joe walked away with 14 awards last night. So no, I don't think there's anything wrong with the folks here having a bit of a chip on their shoulder with regards to ECF. I don't think there's anything wrong with kicking some dirt in their eye.

Through banning, ECF has basically told a lot of VU-minded people to STFU, no one wants to hear what you have to say. The VU has made it very clear that we're not going to shut up.
 

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Well, if ECF did indeed take the "High Road" and not get their non vaping friends to vote, since they tout that they are the largest vaping forum in the world, why couldn't they convince their own active members to take the time to vote?

My theory is that at one time or another, just about anyone new to vaping signed up for ECF membership. And when they saw all the BS and Banning that goes on over there they just stopped participating and went elsewhere. Or they were banned and went elsewhere.

Perhaps to HERE?

Just thinking out loud.
(Cough cough exactly what I did cough cough)
 

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I have no issues with your reasons. I actually think it is pretty cool VU took top awards in such an infancy as a forum.

But for some here, it's about poking back at the other place. Not really about celebrating your true win as much as it is sticking their tongue out at the other place.
So what, what do you care? You know damn well you were a member of ECF so why are you denying it? You had that same argument with me about nicotine being addictive and even used the same jack-ass unicorns farting rainbows comment so stop pretending. And then you called me a "pansey" couldn't even spell it right, geez.
 

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I have no issues with your reasons. I actually think it is pretty cool VU took top awards in such an infancy as a forum.

But for some here, it's about poking back at the other place. Not really about celebrating your true win as much as it is sticking their tongue out at the other place.

Oh I wanna stick much more then my tongue out at the other place. :D

@TygerTyger :D :D :D
 

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Blake sent me a picture of what we will be getting for winning best of 2014 overall.
Of course its the one all the way to the left ;)
 

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I'm still waiting for you to post something of relevant value concerning the subject matter....I've seen nothing thus far.....except an opinion based on not much and some psychoanalysis you likely arent qualified to give......I'll wait for some substance from you, but I wont hold my breath....lol

Lmao!

How ironic you and many others have cried about that other place. How you had to have a viewpoint of the masses, or you were silenced.

In the same grain, telling me I am full of it, because I am not wearing my heart on my sleeve, over a silly internet forum!

It doesn't make a difference to me if the place exists, if they ban everyone, or if they silence members. Because MY life doesn't revolve around a worthless forum like that.

Must be you are REALLY butthurt over getting booted. Must be you REALLY want to be back there. Because you are acting like it's your unicorn.

If you and some others want to continue having a cry fest, be my guest. I think it's quite funny. I am stronger than that.
 

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I have no issues with your reasons. I actually think it is pretty cool VU took top awards in such an infancy as a forum.

But for some here, it's about poking back at the other place. Not really about celebrating your true win as much as it is sticking their tongue out at the other place.
Sorry, for me your wrong, I like to stick my tongue out as much as the next person, but I am VERY proud of this forum, Proud at who we are, Proud of what we do, Proud of all of our members (that includes you) for being able to 1-Get vaping info out there for people 2-speaking our minds without looking over our shoulders 3-as a vaping community in its infancy were able to break records, win awards, We are here and we are heard.
 

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Lmao!

How ironic you and many others have cried about that other place. How you had to have a viewpoint of the masses, or you were silenced.

In the same grain, telling me I am full of it, because I am not wearing my heart on my sleeve, over a silly internet forum!

It doesn't make a difference to me if the place exists, if they ban everyone, or if they silence members. Because MY life doesn't revolve around a worthless forum like that.

Must be you are REALLY butthurt over getting booted. Must be you REALLY want to be back there. Because you are acting like it's your unicorn.

If you and some others want to continue having a cry fest, be my guest. I think it's quite funny. I am stronger than that.
Yet you're here aren't you, blabbing away as if you are the most important thing in the world, blah blah blah all the time as if you are always right and everyone else is wrong, as if you are somehow always on the moral high ground and everyone is below you. What's your deal, dude? This is a very friendly place. Why don't you at least TRY to get along with people?
 

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It should speak volumes that this site, young as it is, with 1/16th the membership numbers, defeated ECF in a reader voted poll. It should also speak volumes that Vapor Joe walked away with 14 awards last night. So no, I don't think there's anything wrong with the folks here having a bit of a chip on their shoulder with regards to ECF. I don't think there's anything wrong with kicking some dirt in their eye.
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Lmao!

How ironic you and many others have cried about that other place. How you had to have a viewpoint of the masses, or you were silenced.

In the same grain, telling me I am full of it, because I am not wearing my heart on my sleeve, over a silly internet forum!

It doesn't make a difference to me if the place exists, if they ban everyone, or if they silence members. Because MY life doesn't revolve around a worthless forum like that.

Must be you are REALLY butthurt over getting booted. Must be you REALLY want to be back there. Because you are acting like it's your unicorn.

If you and some others want to continue having a cry fest, be my guest. I think it's quite funny. I am stronger than that.
Still waiting for something relevant to the subject and intelligent from you........tic toc...tic toc...

Your self stated emotional strength is noted, documented, and filed in the appropriate circular file...
 

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Am I upset? No. Classwife locking threads is as reliable as the time of day. I can't speak for others, obviously, but here is my issue with ECF:

When you do a Google search for vaping information, ECF is one of the top results. ECF is going to be among the first stops for newbies, which puts them in a very powerful and important position in the vaping industry and community.

Their antics are destructive to everyone. It's a turn-off to newbies who are looking for a source of credible information, they abuse members, and shake down vendors. The amount of overzealous moderators there is actually laughable. You can't even type "Vaping Underground" or "Vapor Joes" because they're censored.

It should speak volumes that this site, young as it is, with 1/16th the membership numbers, defeated ECF in a reader voted poll. It should also speak volumes that Vapor Joe walked away with 14 awards last night. So no, I don't think there's anything wrong with the folks here having a bit of a chip on their shoulder with regards to ECF. I don't think there's anything wrong with kicking some dirt in their eye.

Through banning, ECF has basically told a lot of VU-minded people to STFU, no one wants to hear what you have to say. The VU has made it very clear that we're not going to shut up.

The ISSUE with popping up on Google is an SEO issue. NOT an ECF issue.

VU can domninate, IF they put the work in SEO, otherwise they won't.
 

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@freemind

I don't think you recognize the sea of irony you are swimming in. If you were posting these comments on ECF, you would've been banned 5 posts ago.

Do you NOT see you are not on the other site?

I see the irony that we are HERE and people are obsessing with THEM.
 

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Still waiting for something relevant to the subject and intelligent from you........tic toc...tic toc...

Your self stated emotional strength is noted, documented, and filed in the appropriate circular file...
Do you swim in a sea of drugs, or just mainline from an airhose?
 

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Yet you're here aren't you, blabbing away as if you are the most important thing in the world, blah blah blah all the time as if you are always right and everyone else is wrong, as if you are somehow always on the moral high ground and everyone is below you. What's your deal, dude? This is a very friendly place. Why don't you at least TRY to get along with people?
One of the many and biggest differences between VU and ECF is that if one of the posters is a condescending asshole, the moderators dont necessarily have to intervene at all....membership will deal with em quickly and appropriately....
 

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Do you NOT see you are not on the other site?

I see the irony that we are HERE and people are obsessing with THEM.
SOOOOOO WHAT??? What do you care? If it bothers you so much why are you even here? VU rules, ECF sucks. Why does it bother you?
 

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SOOOOOO WHAT??? What do you care? If it bothers you so much why are you even here? VU rules, ECF sucks. Why does it bother you?

It doesn't bother me.

In fact, my choosing to be a member here, speaks that this is a better place, doesn't it?

What bothers me is some people obsessing over unimportant things, like the existence of a forum.

It's petty and immature. It shows a serious character weakness.
 

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Still waiting...your posts are getting dumber...try again and go in a different direction...just sayin'
This is the same doofus who told me I only had two brain cells left. All he does is insult people.
 

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It doesn't bother me.

In fact, my choosing to be a member here, speaks that this is a better place, doesn't it?

What bothers me is some people obsessing over unimportant things, like the existence of a forum.

It's petty and immature. It shows a serious character weakness.
SOOO WHO CARES?? What kind of moron spends News Years Day worrying about crap like that? Get a fucking life already.
 

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SOOO WHO CARES?? What kind of moron spends News Years Day worrying about crap like that? Get a fucking life already.

Oh the IRONY of pointing at me and saying" Yeah! Why are you worried on New Year's Day!" And themselves "worrying" about it on New Year's day.

Should I bring a GIANT box of Kleenex to this cry-it-oiut party?

Lmao,
 

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The ISSUE with popping up on Google is an SEO issue. NOT an ECF issue.

VU can domninate, IF they put the work in SEO, otherwise they won't.
If you know anything about SEO, then you know that site age is a major factor. Vaping Underground is ranking right up there with ECF, and this forum is less than a year old, competing with a forum that is now 8 years old. I'm pretty sure these guys know what they're doing.

But again, you're missing the entire point.
 

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Oh the IRONY of pointing at me and saying" Yeah! Why are you worried on New Year's Day!" And themselves "worrying" about it on New Year's day.

Should I bring a GIANT box of Kleenex to this cry-it-oiut party?

Lmao,
What are you even talking about you loony tune? We're celebrating the fact that VU was voted the best forum. We're the ones who are happy and you're the one who is crying like a little piss pants again as always. Fuck off, seriously, stop being a party pooper.
 

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(blows a kiss your way)

I find it REALLY funny you and someone else here has accused me of being a member of the other place.


Ya'll just keep assuming. It's funny!
Oh yeah, right, there just HAPPENS to be ANOTHER guy out there that thinks nicotine is as addictive as ******, uses a phrase about unicorns farting rainbows, and spells pansy "pansey". LOL, suuuuuuure.
 

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If you know anything about SEO, then you know that site age is a major factor. Vaping Underground is ranking right up there with ECF, and this forum is less than a year old, competing with a forum that is now 8 years old. I'm pretty sure these guys know what they're doing.

But again, you're missing the entire point.

I DO in fact, know about SEO. I know because I have and do build websites, and get mine ranked in under a year. I know I have dominated my market, when other guys have been in the game longer than me.

Age is a issue you can get passed, no problem. relative content and backlinks are the key. But, it's not my forum and I am making nothing off it, so it's not on me to worry about it.

I'm sure Joe and his team have it under control.
 

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It doesn't bother me.

In fact, my choosing to be a member here, speaks that this is a better place, doesn't it?

What bothers me is some people obsessing over unimportant things, like the existence of a forum.

It's petty and immature. It shows a serious character weakness.
Your character weaknesses are what is being revealed here....pontificating on a subject, especially with zero qualification to do so, on what's what should and shouldn't be important for others, based on your opinion of what is and isn't important to you...you do not speak for anyone else, so just stop...you are way to hung up on the self-importance of your opinions...no one cares what you think...you can of course post all you want, even if you are a huge douche, and you likely wont be banned...that is what is a big difference between this forum and the other forum....but....you can be called out for it as well...and there are worse things than being banned...being shunned comes to mind...
 

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