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Looking for a simple coil to produce thick vapor. Need suggestions.

Hey, as this is my first time posting on the forum, I have to just assume this is the right place to put this. I'm not really new to vaping, but I'm not super experienced either. The most complex coil I have built to date is probably only a dual parallel coil.

So here's the deal: I vape on a Bamboo copper clone and a Dark Horse RDA. I only have 24 gauge kanthol at my disposal and I don't have an ohm meter (there's a good reason for this which I won't get into; I'll be in a place where I can get more things in about a month). I'm trying to figure out what kind of coil I can build that will give me the best vapor until I get access to more stuff. I like thick clouds, if that gives you an idea. I have all the necessary tools like screwdrivers, drills, and whatever else you can think of.

If anyone has suggestions, please post with the type of coil, number of wraps, etc. Remember that atm, I can only work with 24 gauge kanthol in my mechanical mod.
 

Ruben

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Honestly without a ohm meter your most likely going to blow your face off when the battery nukes. Use steam engine and figure out a standard macro coil build using 24 gauge and I wouldn't go below .3 ohm for the time being. I calculated a simple parallel coil build but using 24g your looking at 13 wraps each coil to get anywhere safe. Standard micro is 6 wraps/ 3mm ID. I don't know what battery your running or if you know ohms law or not. I also do not take responibility for you following my advice here and somehow messing up the build and your mod going thermonuclear.
 
I've been vaping on a mechanical mod without an ohm meter for something like a year. The local guy plus friends taught me plenty enough to be safe about it. I just want something decent and safe until I can get a meter in another month (moving date). I'm currently running a single parallel coil at 5 wraps on a 1/8" screwdriver. Not bad, just wondering if I could do better.
I only use the safest batteries, so I'm good there too. I know about ohms since I fix computers on the side and have worked on motherboards in the past.
 

Zovers

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Assuming that you have a drill at your disposal... two 24g twisted, take the twisted wire and wrap it in a parallel with straight 24g four to five times then put an extra wrap on the twisted wire.

However, I strongly caution that you use an ohm meter to check the resistance before even attempting to crimp the coils as I cant recall the ohms last time I did this build. If there is a vape shop in your area they will more than likely have an ohm reader that you can borrow for a few seconds in the name of safety.
 

robot zombie

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lol @ blow up comments

anyways do dual coils. 6 wraps of 24 guage on a 1/8 bit should give u about .25 ohms = Clouds
Yes, this, though that would be closer to .28, wouldn't it?

You could even go down in diameter to something like a dual 3/32 at 6 wraps for a .23-.24 that has a tad more power and heats up a noticeably quicker because of the slightly smaller ID.

I prefer 5-wrap duals around a 3/32, myself. But that's gonna come up somewhere between .18 and .20, so I really hope you're referring to VTC4's when you say you have the safest batteries.

If you really want thickness, I want to recommend twisted 24, but the resistance of twisted wire can vary significantly depending on how tight you twist it. It also gets VERY hot at the resistances needed to overcome the ramp-up. Same with dual parallels, only without the variations in resistance, really. I've only gotten decent performance out of either at the VERY low resistance of .16. Wouldn't recommend either without a meter.

Dual twisted or triple-twisted 28 is better for thickness than straight 24, though 24 will give you more volume... ...claptons are even better. Try those when you get up and running with a meter and different guages.


And on ohm meters... ...if you can calculate the resistance of your coil using something like steam engine or the calculator posted above me, then sure, you can determine the lowest resistance it would come out to, but you can't predict shorts that may not be immediately apparent. As someone who has worked with electronics, you should know better. Isn't it standard practice to test the connections you work on for shorts when servicing delicate circuitry?
 

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Try a chain link build if you have a drill.

You'll need 4 lengths of the 24 gauge wire. Twist one pair of the wires really tight, make sure to twist them clockwise.

Repeat that step with the other 2 wires. It's important to twist in the same direction as the first pair.

Now take the 2 twisted wires you just made and twist them together slowly in a counter clockwise direction. As they twist they will begin to take the shape of what looks like a chain for lack of better terms.

I usually do 5-6 wraps around a 3mm screwdriver. With a dual coil set up like this, it usually pushes around 0.3 ohms, or in that neighborhood.

I hope that made sense. If not here's a link to a video that might explain it better than I can... http://olympiavaporworks.com/9-advanced-coil-builds/ it's the 4th video down.

Hope you enjoy!

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lol @ blow up comments

anyways do dual coils. 6 wraps of 24 guage on a 1/8 bit should give u about .25 ohms = Clouds

use this as reference

http://vapercoils.com/using-drill-bits-to-wrap-coils
lol, yes i have mixed feelings about this. but "blow your face off" no, i think not!!
i started with a nemesis/ tobh setup w/o an ohm reader, and still dont have one to date.
kanthal 24 6/wraps on 3 mm fo duals is fine, but id like to add, GET QUALITY BATTERIES!!
edit: quoted the wrong guy, meant at ruben
 

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