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kh888

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Hi All,

So...I think I am coming full circle. Like many vapors, I started out with an Ego twist, graduated to a Provari and then DNA20 and 30 devices and yikes, it appears to be time to dial it back!

I am resigning myself to the fact that I need a VV/VW wattage device that I can turn down. I love my Provaris, but the size is a little bigger than I like. I have been spoiled by the VaporShark, Egrip, etc., etc.. However, I cannot turn those devices down enough to get a comfortable vape.

If I recall, the iStick can be stepped down, but is there anything else out there of better build quality?

Any input would be appreciated! Thanks!
 

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Perhaps look into the Sigelei mini 30w, it can buck down below the batteries voltage in PWM mode and it's definitely a better quality device than the istick in my opinion xD
Just watched a video about a vapor flask clone that goes down to 1w
 

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Hi All,

So...I think I am coming full circle. Like many vapors, I started out with an Ego twist, graduated to a Provari and then DNA20 and 30 devices and yikes, it appears to be time to dial it back!

I am resigning myself to the fact that I need a VV/VW wattage device that I can turn down. I love my Provaris, but the size is a little bigger than I like. I have been spoiled by the VaporShark, Egrip, etc., etc.. However, I cannot turn those devices down enough to get a comfortable vape.

If I recall, the iStick can be stepped down, but is there anything else out there of better build quality?

Any input would be appreciated! Thanks!

what kind of topper are you using?
 

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In my own experiences with Box mods (Sigelei, VS, IPV, Istick), i'd probably rank the Istick on top of the list as far as build quality goes fwiw. I prefer and love my Sigelei to death, but to date the Istick certainly seems to have the best overall track record of any box i've seen when it comes to taking a beating. It's a solidly built device if the built in battery factor isn't a deal breaker for you ...as far as current boxes go at least.
 

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You could try one of the Chana DNA30 mods.
 

KKen

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Chana mod is an option if you are OK with this kind of QC:

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BTW, was wondering, why not just change your atomizer resistance instead of trying to change the device?
 

kh888

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what kind of topper are you using?

I have returned to a single coil Protank and sometimes an Aerotank. I moved away from Kayfuns and drippers...just too much.


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Egrip with RBA base - compact mod, 20W, no-nonsense 8-position dial, produces good flavor and decent amounts of vapor even on the lowest settings.
 

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I have returned to a single coil Protank and sometimes an Aerotank. I moved away from Kayfuns and drippers...just too much.


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Either the mvp2.0 (11w) or the mvp 20 watt...you need at least 7 to 8 watts for a 1.8 to 2.0 ohm coil and less for a lower ohm using the stock kanger coils which only go down to 1.5 for the basic kanger tanks if im not mistaken...6.5 to 7.5 watts seems to work great with that


you can get the mvp 20 watt for $29.99 shipped.

The mpv 2.0 are still over priced however considering the new 20 watt model for less, so its not a better deal in my opinion..the 20 watt goes down to 6 watts.

Just my $.02
 

kh888

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Egrip with RBA base - compact mod, 20W, no-nonsense 8-position dial, produces good flavor and decent amounts of vapor even on the lowest settings.

I have an Egrip and am struggling with that believe it or not! Even that is killing my throat and lungs. I am going to try no nic in the Egrip and see if it helps, but I am not terribly optimistic.
 

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A am a low watt vaper myself.
The MVP 2.0 probably works best at low watts. But mine never leaves my desk because I detest the fire button, form, and archaic display.

I use an Istick 20 mostly because of the form factor, and it is a terrible choice for low watts.
If you build your Kanger coil over 1.8 and keep the volts set to 3.0 it is passable. It runs way too hot for a 1.5, especially when fully charged.
The istick 30 may be better at lower power, but have not tried one yet.

The Egrip with RBA is fantastic. I build a coil around 2.0 and I actually set it over 8 watts. But the RBA ruins the stealth.
 

kh888

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A am a low watt vaper myself.
The MVP 2.0 probably works best at low watts. But mine never leaves my desk because I detest the fire button, form, and archaic display.

I use an Istick 20 mostly because of the form factor, and it is a terrible choice for low watts.
If you build your Kanger coil over 1.8 and keep the volts set to 3.0 it is passable. It runs way too hot for a 1.5, especially when fully charged.
The istick 30 may be better at lower power, but have not tried one yet.

The Egrip with RBA is fantastic. I build a coil around 2.0 and I actually set it over 8 watts. But the RBA ruins the stealth.

Thanks for the info! Running my Egrip with a 1.9 Ohm coil and still having problems at 8 watts. I am going to drop the nic and see if it helps, as I really like the Egrip and would hate to stop using them.
 

Robert B

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Try a higher VG juice as well. I have an 80vg/20pg mix 6mg nic, and can take a huge lung hit on a .2 ohm setup with almost no throat hit.
 

Giraut

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Thanks for the info! Running my Egrip with a 1.9 Ohm coil and still having problems at 8 watts. I am going to drop the nic and see if it helps, as I really like the Egrip and would hate to stop using them.

The better the atomizer, the more nicotine becomes harsh and, well, effective at giving you a nicotine hit. 18mg is barely bearable in my Egrip with the RBA base, and intolerable in my Manta RDA. But I used to vape it just fine in shitty iClear 30s. Nowadays, I mostly vape 3mg juices and that's plenty of throat and lung abuse with my rebuildables, when I used to need 12/18 in clearos.
 

kh888

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Yes, I am trying some 0mg today. Yesterday, I mixed away, bringing all my 6mg down to 3mg and I will see what happens. Thanks!


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Hi All,

So...I think I am coming full circle. Like many vapors, I started out with an Ego twist, graduated to a Provari and then DNA20 and 30 devices and yikes, it appears to be time to dial it back!

I am resigning myself to the fact that I need a VV/VW wattage device that I can turn down. I love my Provaris, but the size is a little bigger than I like. I have been spoiled by the VaporShark, Egrip, etc., etc.. However, I cannot turn those devices down enough to get a comfortable vape.

If I recall, the iStick can be stepped down, but is there anything else out there of better build quality?

Any input would be appreciated! Thanks!
My wife is a low watt user as well and her go to device is a vtr, but imo it seems like you already have the perfect device with the Provari. Might just need to get used to the form factor of one again. If that is not an option then the Sig 30w might be an option because of how low you can dial it down.
 

kh888

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My wife is a low watt user as well and her go to device is a vtr, but imo it seems like you already have the perfect device with the Provari. Might just need to get used to the form factor of one again. If that is not an option then the Sig 30w might be an option because of how low you can dial it down.

I think you are right in your assessment. I am using my Provari today with a 2 Ohm Aerotank coil at 3.5 volts and I feel so much better. I will probably explore the Sigelei, as well.

Sadly, I will likely sell my VaporSharks and an Egrip, too!


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I think you are right in your assessment. I am using my Provari today with a 2 Ohm Aerotank coil at 3.5 volts and I feel so much better. I will probably explore the Sigelei, as well.

Sadly, I will likely sell my VaporSharks and an Egrip, too!


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I put a Nautilus mini or a kayfun on a Provari when I feel like a lower watt vape. The Provari does not see as much action but when I am in the mood it never lets me down.

What type of VS? 30? 30r? 40?
 

kh888

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VS30...great little device, but I don't think it is in my future any longer!


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VS30...great little device, but I don't think it is in my future any longer!


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Yeah they have a nice form factor. I don't have one every time I thought I would get one I went another direction. What does the shark go down to in watts? 7?
 

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Yeah they have a nice form factor. I don't have one every time I thought I would get one I went another direction. What does the shark go down to in watts? 7?

The Vaporshark's ( DNA and rDNA ) are using authentic Evolve chipsets in them... the VS DNA 30 therefore has 7-30w just like every other Evolve DNA 30 device.

The Evolve DNA 40 devices on the otherhand are capable of 1w-40w and 1v-9v output... VS has a DNA40 in both the DNA model ( built in 2500mah battery ) and rDNA model ( with changeable 18650 2500mah battery )
 

kh888

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The Vaporshark's ( DNA and rDNA ) are using authentic Evolve chipsets in them... the VS DNA 30 therefore has 7-30w just like every other Evolve DNA 30 device.

The Evolve DNA 40 devices on the otherhand are capable of 1w-40w and 1v-9v output... VS has a DNA40 in both the DNA model ( built in 2500mah battery ) and rDNA model ( with changeable 18650 2500mah battery )

Correct! 7W is as low as it can go. Just to test the theory about "too much" power, I just started using the VS for th last hour, 0 nic, and I am already feeling it in my lungs and throat. <sigh>

Glad I kept a Provari.....


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rdsok

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Correct! 7W is as low as it can go. Just to test the theory about "too much" power, I just started using the VS for th last hour, 0 nic, and I am already feeling it in my lungs and throat. <sigh>

Glad I kept a Provari.....


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I own a VS DNA 30 as well and really like it... now that they've released the DNA 40 version... well, could have, would have, should have etc... still it'd be nice. On that note, I'd probably go with the rDNA 40 instead just to have a removeable battery and also because the slightly larger size would fit my hands a little better
 

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The Vaporshark's ( DNA and rDNA ) are using authentic Evolve chipsets in them... the VS DNA 30 therefore has 7-30w just like every other Evolve DNA 30 device.

The Evolve DNA 40 devices on the otherhand are capable of 1w-40w and 1v-9v output... VS has a DNA40 in both the DNA model ( built in 2500mah battery ) and rDNA model ( with changeable 18650 2500mah battery )
Yeah that is what I was thinking but wanted to be sure for clarification on how low of a vaper kh888 really is.
 

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The DNA's (except the 40) and the Istick pretty much only regulate down to 4 volts. You'd need to build a high enough ohm coil to produce the wattage you want at 4 volts. What it says on the screen and what you get are two different things entirely. You need something that can buck and boost like the Provari, something from Innokin or basically a pre-DNA style chip. I haven't seen any scope readings on the 30w Istick yet so I don't know if that one will buck or not. Some of the YIHI chips will output down to 3.6 volts but the 350 series (and the 130) is the only one to truly buck.
 
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kh888

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The DNA's (except the 40) and the Istick pretty much only regulate down to 4 volts. You'd need to build a high enough ohm coil to produce the wattage you want at 4 volts. What it says on the screen and what you get are two different things entirely. You need something that can buck and boost like the Provari, something from Innokin or basically a pre-DNA style chip. I haven't seen any scope readings on the 30w Istick yet so I don't know if that one will buck or not. Some of the YIHI chips will output down to 3.6 volts but the 350 series is the only one to truly buck.

The Sigelei Mini should also work, correct? Thanks!


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Hi All,

So...I think I am coming full circle. Like many vapors, I started out with an Ego twist, graduated to a Provari and then DNA20 and 30 devices and yikes, it appears to be time to dial it back!

I am resigning myself to the fact that I need a VV/VW wattage device that I can turn down. I love my Provaris, but the size is a little bigger than I like. I have been spoiled by the VaporShark, Egrip, etc., etc.. However, I cannot turn those devices down enough to get a comfortable vape.

If I recall, the iStick can be stepped down, but is there anything else out there of better build quality?

Any input would be appreciated! Thanks!
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The Sigelei Mini should also work, correct? Thanks!


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The Mini Zmax, yes. Any of the zmax style PWM chips should allow you to go as low as you like. Basically up to 15 watts usually tube mods. The 30w Mini box mod says it has PWM and DC mode. Specs list 8.5v as max with no mention of minimum output voltage so maybe but not certain (Edit- Supposedly it's a YIHI SX-130 chip with a minimum output of 3v, if so it's fine.). Just check the minimum output voltage specs on whatever you are considering to see how low you can go and unless it's an Istick or an early model Vamo you should be able to find a comfortable setting.
 
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