how do people dry burn low builds i use my rx but it doesnt fire below .1 ohms. more a nd more im seeing people online with .02 builds. how do they get them to heat evenly. and no i dont want to build that low im just curious as to how they do it
i know how to do builds i build a few times every week i was just wondering how you dry burn a coil you mod wont fire torch maby?Scrape
Pinch
Scrape
Make sure, screws are tight,not super tight!!
You pulse the coils on low builds, just like you do on any other build.i didnt say i was going to build that low i just want to know how its done since most regulated mods dont fire that low and it wouodnt be safe to do a build on an unregulated mod
i understand that but what if the mod doesnt fire as low as your build is how would you do it then. that was my origional questionYou pulse the coils on low builds, just like you do on any other build.
You don't.i understand that but what if the mod doesnt fire as low as your build is how would you do it then. that was my origional question
then how do people have like crazy .02 low coils how would that be done? a torch?You don't.
Your mod won't fire it, so you may as well not have a coil in it at all. It won't work.
Because they are using unregulated mods that can fire anything, safe or not.then how do people have like crazy .02 low coils how would that be done? a torch?
yeah i didnt think it was safe to do a build on an unregulated mod if i put a build thats not completely done on my lipo the pwm screams pretty loudBecause they are using unregulated mods that can fire anything, safe or not.
Yes some people torch their wires. That used to be the way we all did it.then how do people have like crazy .02 low coils how would that be done? a torch?
^^^^ exactly this^^^^Any user that builds under .1 should 1.) know the risks, 2.) consider the risks, 3.) do research until they have a good understanding of Ohms Law and Battery safety before even thinking of touching a mod, 4.) take responsibility of their own actions if something does happen...
We dont need more media against vaping. Building under .1 is similar to doing tricks on a ducatti...one day you will hit the pavement...the question is....will you blame the bike or take responsibility for your actions?
The Hohm Wrecker G2 fires anything....I dont suggest building low purposely but Ive fired down to .02 on it...ALWAYS USE HB6 and AUTHENTIC VTC4 30a CD Batteries firing under .09 Ohms. Dont be a Andy!
I also use triple and quad parallel boxes loaded with HB6 batteries.
I dont own or buy boxes that cant fire under .1 Ohms, they would almost never get used for the purposes of my style of vaping.
nope just curiousBecause unlike you they own a mod that CAN fire that low and they are taking risks that you should never consider
So now that you know how they do it is that good enough or do you want to know what mod they are using so you can be stupid like them and get one for yourself?
i clearly stated that i did not want to build that low i was just curious as to how is was done read my postsI'm curious why you actually prefer to build that low?
Check my instagram...its not really something I do becuase I like to...its just something that happens.I'm curious why you actually prefer to build that low?
BIKES ARE DANGEROUS!!Building under .1 is similar to doing tricks on a ducatti...one day you will hit the pavement...the question is....will you blame the bike or take responsibility for your actions?
well put and a parallel lipo? never heard of such a thing or just a parallel mod in general? i have a dual 1860 series/parallel device and the parallel has a .09 in itBIKES ARE DANGEROUS!!
B.S. stupid people are dangerous. Be it the person doing a wheelie in a subdivision or the person not paying attention to the biker. Stupid people are dangerous.
Similar to vaping. The people who throw a .02 build on a Chinese nock of battery or hell on a tube mod just to show off with their friends. But if they are smart and either only do it for coil porn or they put it on a quad parallel mod with 30 amp Batts and the voltage drop might bring them down to safe range. But it is still a risk. Similar to tricks on a bike or racing Nascar but both should be done by smart people who understand safety and have the full knowledge of the hobby they are performing.
Also are there any parallel lipo mods? I know lipo Batts have higher discharge than 18650.
those were some crazy nice clapton pics did you make them all yourself?Check my instagram...its not really something I do becuase I like to...its just something that happens.
https://www.instagram.com/raymo_2_u/
I like vaping on the other hand in the .08-.1 range...
I know there are parallel 18650 mods 2,3 and I think 4 cell 18650. Though if there was a parallel lipo mod you could have a mod able to handle really high amperage.well put and a parallel lipo? never heard of such a thing or just a parallel mod in general? i have a dual 1860 series/parallel device and the parallel has a .09 in it
Yes, the page is dedicated to only what I make myselfthose were some crazy nice clapton pics did you make them all yourself?
No, building THAT low IS dangerous.BIKES ARE DANGEROUS!!
B.S. stupid people are dangerous. Be it the person doing a wheelie in a subdivision or the person not paying attention to the biker. Stupid people are dangerous.
Similar to vaping. The people who throw a .02 build on a Chinese nock of battery or hell on a tube mod just to show off with their friends. But if they are smart and either only do it for coil porn or they put it on a quad parallel mod with 30 amp Batts and the voltage drop might bring them down to safe range. But it is still a risk. Similar to tricks on a bike or racing Nascar but both should be done by smart people who understand safety and have the full knowledge of the hobby they are performing.
Also are there any parallel lipo mods? I know lipo Batts have higher discharge than 18650.
I agree with you. It is dangerous. But so is going 300 mph. So is going into space. Also driving near a high school or a university. Again I stress that if you have the proper equipment and knowledge it probably isn't that bad. Not to mention I build a .09 dual coil for my tank and ran it at 3.5 volts. Nevermind what I used it on the point I'm making is I didn't use the full 4.2 on the setup.No, building THAT low IS dangerous.
Anyone with knowledge of mechs KNOWS that. There IS risks building that gawd damn low. You are a fucking moron if you don't think there is. Batteries get weak. Crazy shit happens. It all can cause a failure.
It doesn't matter how "experienced" you are. Shit happens. That's why it's a good idea NOT to do it. I don't care how good you think you are. Sooner or later when the hammer drops, the chamber won't be empty. You will have a mouth full of RDA and Mech.
True.I agree with you. It is dangerous. But so is going 300 mph. So is going into space. Also driving near a high school or a university. Again I stress that if you have the proper equipment and knowledge it probably isn't that bad. Not to mention I build a .09 dual coil for my tank and ran it at 3.5 volts. Nevermind what I used it on the point I'm making is I didn't use the full 4.2 on the setup.
I would also like to add people use to get all up tight about building anything less than 1 ohm. Yes 1.00 ohm not ".1"
I would light to reiterate that I'm talking about experience people doing this not a new vaper with jacked up coils that could short out or using a 3500 mah panasonic battery able of what 7 amp continuous draw.
Edit to add the Panasonic 3500 is a 10 amp battery
i clearly stated that i did not want to build that low i was just curious as to how is was done read my posts
Check my instagram...its not really something I do becuase I like to...its just something that happens.
https://www.instagram.com/raymo_2_u/
I like vaping on the other hand in the .08-.1 range...
sorry bout thatSettle down there sparky, I wasn't asking you! I was asking raymo2u.
Makes sense, that's a lot of metal so it's almost impossible to not go that low. PS those coils are beautiful.
Honestly I think we are making the same points.True.
But risky behavior is usually rewarded with bad/dire consequences sooner or later.
You talk about going into space, I remember when the shuttle blew up on live TV when I was a kid. I can remember countless stunt men who are "pros", being laid up in a hospital for months, or even killed.
Shit happens, even to the best of them. It doesn't matter how new you are, or how long you have been doing something. Murphy's has a way of chopping your nuts off when you least expect it.
You'll notice Ray will tell you vaping that low comes with many risks. Even if you know what you are doing, something can go sideways in a hurry. He doesn't lay it off like if you are really experienced, you've got nothing to worry about.
And to be honest, I don't like it when anyone might imply that, especially in a thread like this, that it "isn't so bad" vaping like that. The OP obviously doesn't grasp OHM's law, mechs, or much, outside or turning the wattage up or down on his device. I would rather new and inexperienced vapers be worried about blowing their face off, because it can and does happen.
So yeah, I agree knowing your shit minimizes risks. But we should always be hammering home the risks. You never know how many people that have made headlines for being dumb fucks, got info from here to start using mechs. All it takes is one guy in the crowd to make it sound easy and safe, and they will ignore the 100 other posts talking about risks and being safe. Then we all look bad.
Honestly I think we are making the same points.
New people shouldn't do it
Experienced people shouldn't do it but if they are it's better because they know the safety concerns and have the info to operate as safely as possible.
While I agree that a new unexperience person should not build that low. I'm not sure how to put it but basically it better to be given some knowledge instead of just jumping in and experimenting and blowing something up.
Think of it like don't press the big red button. If you leave it at that people are going to be like well what will happen. What if I do it just once. Then boom self destruct.
Obviously these builds can be made people do it. If you don't say how it is possible and how it could be done relatively safe then some poor guy is going to try on a tube mod with a 10 amp continuous discharge battery or some knock off Chinese battery rated something lower and blow up.
This guy isn't all that uneducated I remember a thread he has about a lipo mech mod and what he had to say about the lipo, potentiometer and cont. Amp draw seemed spot on and much more knowledgeable than a new vaper. Hell he knew more than I did when I first started rebuilding.
the limits we speak about here are known safe limits for people just starting. as others mentioned you can go lower without instantly dying but it takes knowledge and experience and it's risky. as someone else said it's like race car drivers. they can take a certain turn going 150 MPH but if someone wasn't a racecar driver and tired it they would likely go flying off the road. Just cause in theory something can be done, doesn't mean everyone is able to or prepared to do it. I seen people do amazing things. none of which i could do safely. I seen someone climb a sky scraper with no safety gear or harness , but i would never recommend someone doing that who just started rock climbing at their gymThis^ I was actually trying to explain, (on ecf) the other day, that experienced vapers can go above CDR without blowing themselves up. I got chewed and told that you should never exceed CDR because you'll instantly blow up. Really? If you have experience and actually know what the fuck you're doing you can do some risky stuff. Disclaimer; I'm not suggesting anyone to build a .02 coil and vape it.
why would you want to dry burn a coil that you cannot fire anyway? you can use a parallel mech box with the correct batteries to fire but unless you have a grip on OHM'S law how it pertains to regulated vs unregulated its kinda man like playing with a pipe bomb.i know how to do builds i build a few times every week i was just wondering how you dry burn a coil you mod wont fire torch maby?
the limits we speak about here are known safe limits for people just starting. as others mentioned you can go lower without instantly dying but it takes knowledge and experience and it's risky. as someone else said it's like race car drivers. they can take a certain turn going 150 MPH but if someone wasn't a racecar driver and tired it they would likely go flying off the road. Just cause in theory something can be done, doesn't mean everyone is able to or prepared to do it. I seen people do amazing things. none of which i could do safely. I seen someone climb a sky scraper with no safety gear or harness , but i would never recommend someone doing that who just started rock climbing at their gym
Speaking for myself as an electrical engineer.This^ I was actually trying to explain, (on ecf) the other day, that experienced vapers can go above CDR without blowing themselves up. I got chewed and told that you should never exceed CDR because you'll instantly blow up. Really? If you have experience and actually know what the fuck you're doing you can do some risky stuff. Disclaimer; I'm not suggesting anyone to build a .02 coil and vape it.
haha another one bites the dustSpeaking for myself as an electrical engineer.
I would never tell anyone to vape above CDR.... EVER (as both a professional and ethical risk)
I will ALWAYS point it out and warn of the dangers; AND, GIVE sensible advice.
I'm also one of the more outspoken members here, when it comes to vaping safely and helping noobs find their way.
Is it a guarantee that something will go wrong? NO, nothing is guaranteed.
BUT, if you vape beyond CDR, that risk is inherent, and you're playing the odds.
Often times what happens is; there are other unsafe factors in play, in those cases it is only a matter of when will it vent.
- and no, I haven't been a member of ecf for 3 years.
We had member here saying how safe it was to vape at a 0.02. he claimed he was doing that with the same battery for 6 months.
We haven't heard back from that guy; but, if the battery was used that way for that long, homie was on borrowed time with that cell.
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really no reason too either. I don't even bother going that low personally. sometimes I'll wind up at a .12 which is fine to use in my parallel mechs/unregulated with VTC5a batts or HB6 batts. Last night I built a .2ohm for my mechs and i can use any batteries for it because most of mine are parellel and I'm only pulling 21 amps and i can get 30 amps easily from my 30q/HE4/HG2 etc batts in parallel. and it hits like a champ. No need to go super lowYep I wouldn't recommend somebody new to push their batteries. New people should stick to CDR unless they already have an understanding of batteries, ohm's law, etc.
No shit bro!haha another one bites the dust
If you have ten batteries in parallel?Seriously, without some risk there is no reward. Maybe I suffer from vaping too long. People were afraid of going below 1 ohm and going above 15 watts.
I think evolve didn't make anything above the 40watt dna due to being too dangerous or something. It's what I read on here not what I seen as an official statement.
If I take 10 x true 30 amp batteries and wire them in parallel would a .02 build be safe?
The main point I was making is proper knowledge and proper equipment.
I've seen and used rays coils. He does some killer work!!!I would like to add he was merely asking how to dry burn perhaps for coil pictures. Ask raymo2u what his coil porn pictures come out to I could be wrong but I am willing to bet they are really low. Not sure how the vape would be at .02
depends. someone like Raymo clearly knows what he is doing. people shouldn't try and imitate him without having his knowledge.I would like to add he was merely asking how to dry burn perhaps for coil pictures. Ask raymo2u what his coil porn pictures come out to I could be wrong but I am willing to bet they are really low. Not sure how the vape would be at .02
Speaking for myself as an electrical engineer.
I would never tell anyone to vape above CDR.... EVER (as both a professional and ethical risk)
I will ALWAYS point it out and warn of the dangers; AND, GIVE sensible advice.
I'm also one of the more outspoken members here, when it comes to vaping safely and helping noobs find their way.
Is it a guarantee that something will go wrong? NO, nothing is guaranteed.
BUT, if you vape beyond CDR, that risk is inherent, and you're playing the odds.
Often times what happens is; there are other unsafe factors in play, in those cases it is only a matter of when will it vent.
- and no, I haven't been a member of ecf for 3 years.
We had member here saying how safe it was to vape at a 0.02. he claimed he was doing that with the same battery for 6 months.
We haven't heard back from that guy; but, if the battery was used that way for that long, homie was on borrowed time with that cell.
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Agreed... Depending on the regulated mod.That's just pure stupidity vaping at that kind of resistance. I don't recommend it on mechs, but for regulated imho you can if you're just testing a build out, or maybe cloud chasing. I've only exceeded CDR once and that was because I was testing a new build out. I pulsed for two seconds with a 20 second break between pulses.