MOD with REPLACEABLE internal battery?

[vapesmooth1234]

I've had a Realoux DNA200 Triple 18650 for about a year and it's just too dam big and heavy to carry around in pocket and I end up smoking more instead. With smaller MODS I've had before (smoktech groove 2 3800 mAh internal), I was down to 1 cigarette a month and preferring vaping anyway and wasn't vaping heavily or huge clouds (was only using a single 1.8 ohm coil in a basic dripper at 7 Volts which is nothing compared to todays tanks/coils but I was fine with that).

I bought a bunch of newer tanks with the realoux and seem to still prefer the TFV8 from what's available (why haven't they added juice flow still is what I'm saying?) Not the baby one but I might get that with the new mod to downsize everything. So I need something that can give decent battery life to these .15 ohm coils or whatever they are.

I might get a dual 18650 DNA mod, but I'm thinking maybe something with an internal lipo pack instead because it might pack more mAhs in a smaller area. Is that True? I'm using 3 LG browns in the realoux and will probably use those LGs for a dual 18650 (a new pair), so that would be 6000 mAh I think.

The internal battery mod with the biggest battery I've looked at so far is 5000 mAh. The main thing though is that I want one I can easily find a replacement battery for and easily replace it when the time comes. Is there such a thing?

And a lot of single cell lipos charge really fast and don't need to be DNA (safe) from what I remember because it's not a series of batteries charging (or discharging). FWIW, I don't really care for the DNA board besides it's safety of USB charging. Unless maybe it's just much more stable and not buggy like cheap chips?

If I get a dual 18650, it will have to be DNA because I DO charge it via usb. I have xtar dedicated chargers but I prefer to just plug in the USB (and I passthrough vape). The DNA I've been charging for about 9 moths USB and read the voltages are all the same and it really is a safe USB charger unlike the cheaper Chinese chips. I might also get a single 18650 mod for like if I'm going snowboarding or at a wedding or something and don't want a bigger dual 18650 in my pocket. So the single 18650 probably would be okay if it's not a DNA chip.


1 last thing, I need it 100W, I usually only vape around 50-60 but sometimes I crank it up to clean coils or a gurgle etc. I don't need 200W but won't omit that from the choices just because it's 200W.

sorry long. any replies I might make probably won't be nearly as long. thank you

 

[vapesmooth1234]

someone said "It depends very heavily on the actual output voltage of the internal battery. A big giant LiPO cell in an internal mod that only produces 3.7v isn’t ever going to produce a decent vape much over 50w no matter what it’s “rating” is"

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^ true, I didn't look into this yet much (I was praying it wouldn't be a ... research project like everythingg when I buy something online that's new or changing), but I read some of the lipo pack internals are like 3-cell to get more amps I guess, so maybe they a) won't charge super fast at like 2 amps, and b) must make sure it's a DNA chip if going to USB charge since it's not just one single battery.

Another thing is what I saw was only a 1300 mAh replaceable lipo.
LG brown is 3000 maH, so twice the mAh with just one 18650.
Maybe there's mods with larger internal batts than 1300 mAh but I don't think it's going to save much more than a 1/4" or something vs a dual 18650.

I'm just going to continue process of elimination and pick a dual 18650 DNA and also a single 18650 DNA. Or maybe there's one that converts size to both.

Anyway one last thing I was wondering, I saw this MOD says this

"
Lost Vape Therion DNA75C ($120)
Without doubt, the Lost Vape Therion is the most luxurious DNA75C mod out there.

The battery panels are genuine leather, and come in many different shades and styles. You can purchase the battery panels separately to refresh the look of the Therion when you need a change. The front panels are made out of wood. The body is zinc alloy.

Powered by dual 18650 batteries in paralel, this is the best DNA75C mod you can get. Although you can charge with USB, I recommend getting a Nitecore charger for safer balanced charging"

http://www.geekayvapes.com/dna-mods/

I'm %100 not getting that MOD because I don't buy anything leather, but since it's parallel, does that mean %99.9 of other DNA dual 18650 mods are series (or something else)?

All I'll wondering is, is there a certain battery configuration I need to make sure of before I go charging whatever new DNA-chip MOD I get VIA the usb?

I charge triple 18650 relaux DNA200 via usb for a year some batteries, never rotated once and they were all the same voltages and it's indeed a safe charger. (I get xtar or nitecore 'safe' chargers for like $10 so it's not too good to be true that the DNA chip safely charges multiple cells also). What's hard to believe is the cheap RX etc chips can cause a dangerous discrepancy between the voltages not only if charged with USB but also discharged (when it's vaping and using battery life, it's almost just as unsafe).

Anyway, sorry to ramble if I did but just wondering about that thing I quoted and then I'll just pick out whatever two new mods I like. Might just check back and make sure LG browns are the best choice batteries for the MODS I want. THANKS

 

[Neunerball]

Personally, I like my Hotcig DX75 mod (DNA75 max 75W), using a single replaceable 26650 battery, when I'm on the road. However, as with most of single battery mods, the battery won't last long either, at the wattage you are utilizing.
The Lost Vape Paranormal 166 would be an option for a dual 18650 batteries mod. According to it's specification, it has a max of 167W.
I can't think of any other chip set mod, that would charge multiple battery cells to the same level, as the DNA does. However, some mods I own with dual 18650, like the Sigelei 216, and I'm charging via USB, I switch the batteries in there ports before charging. The Sigelei 216 although the spec says, isn't able to provide 216W. But it shouldn't be a problem with the wattage you are utilizing.

 

[HondaDavidson]

Having a longer runtime with an internal battery is great until it's time to charge the battery... at this point you need a backup devce.... with swappable battery you just change the cells an vape on.

But fact is 5000MAH of lipo is about the same size as 5000 mah of lion. Difference is the length of charging cable required for continuing vapor.

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[Neunerball]

Having a longer runtime with an internal battery is great until it's time to charge the battery... at this point you need a backup devce.... with swappable battery you just change the cells an vape on.

But fact is 5000MAH of lipo is about the same size as 5000 mah of lion. Difference is the length of charging cable required for continuing vapor.

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Most mods do have a pass through. Therefore, you can still vape, while charging the batteries in the mod.

Regarding LiPo packs, I don't know of any smaller sized mod, that has the ability to change out the LiPo pack. In addition, I don't see where the length of the cable has a significant influence in charging either type of battery. However, with a suitable external LiPo charger and battery, you can charge a 3200 - 4000 mAh LiPo pack within 25-35 Minutes. If you do have the proper power supply, and a parallel board, you can charge 6 LiPo packs at once, within the same time.

 

[HondaDavidson]

Most mods do have a pass through. Therefore, you can still vape, while charging the batteries in the mod.

Regarding LiPo packs, I don't know of any smaller sized mod, that has the ability to change out the LiPo pack. In addition, I don't see where the length of the cable has a significant influence in charging either type of battery. However, with a suitable external LiPo charger and battery, you can charge a 3200 - 4000 mAh LiPo pack within 25-35 Minutes. If you do have the proper power supply, and a parallel board, you can charge 6 LiPo packs at once, within the same time.

Pass through vaping while charging requires a cable... have to he near power source to use....or have long cable... I'd need about 50 feet. lion you can pop batteries in a charger and insert fresh into mod. No tethering.

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[Neunerball]

Pass through vaping while charging requires a cable... have to he near power source to use....or have long cable... I'd need about 50 feet. lion you can pop batteries in a charger and insert fresh into mod. No tethering.

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Yeah, 50 feet is a lot of cable, thus resulting in a higher resistance caused by the length of the cable (assuming the wire used in the cable has the same diameter). Therefore, the Ampere reaching the mod would be lower than compared to a 3 foot cable.

 

[Mattp169]

im not seeing your point

if its for weight, well you still need a way to transport the extra battery pack
i mean you said replacable so you could just pop out one battery and go to the next without waiting for pass through or recharging

if this is what you want many DNA mods can do this.

but honestly a 2x18650 mod sound slike what will make you happy. batteries are cheaper- the difference in mah is negligible in my opinion. Im not very familiar with all the 2s and 3s lipo packs that fit in mods but most i see are 5000mahish which you can easily get with 2x18650 or more

so if you are just looking for a smaller mod that fits in your pocket that would weigh less and be more convenient yet give you the ability to switch out batteries so you dont have to use pass through or recharge, many 2x18650 mods will go to 100W+ and serve the purpose