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How come I scratched off the code and entered it into the site and it's confirmed authentic, but people say these are rewraps or junk? They are in my opinion almost as good as HG2s.
 

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MXJO doesn't make batteries. That why it's a rewrap.

It could be a quality original cell that's been "rewrapped." Or, it could be a grade b cell.

There's no advantage to a more expensive rebranded battery with exaggerated specs when you can buy original manufacturer grade a with known specs.
 

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Let's put it this way. There's the Original Manufacturer (Sony, Samsung, LG). Then there's the Re-Wrappers (Efest, MXJO, AWT, Imren) who use the B grade cells from the OEMs, and re-wrap them with over-inflated specs. Then there's the little guys (people in basements and garages and whatnot), just trying to make a quick penny, who take any cell they can get their hands on (any grade cell, B/C/D) and put fake wraps of them. Since all these Re-Wrappers are pretty much of Chinese origin, it makes it difficult to distinguish "fake" re-wraps apart from "real" re-wraps.
Although the Re-Wrappers use over-inflated specs, they are still quality cells that can be used safely, just not at what the wraps rating says ("Authentic" re-wraps consistently measure out to 20A cells, which are usable in most Regulated devices without issue)
Since these little guys have started to become a bigger part of the picture, the Re-Wrappers have taken a further step by putting on Authenticity codes/stickers, which will confirm if the cell was actually re-wrapped by them, or by the little guys. If a battery were to fail the Re-Wrappers authenticity, I would chuck it immediately, not even use it in a flashlight. If it passes, then I would only use it in a Reggy.
It's still recommended to only use cells from OEMs (Sony, Samsung, LG)
 

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How come I scratched off the code and entered it into the site and it's confirmed authentic, but people say these are rewraps or junk? They are in my opinion almost as good as HG2s.
don't take this the wrong way, but is your opinion based on measurements?
since mxjo and efest are both glorified resellers of manufacturers rejects, I would trust what mooch's tests, numbers and facts are a lot more telling than opinion.
I wouldn't push a rewrap. I tend to think that the extra dollar or two that a good Samsun, LG or sony costs is well worth the money. I never understood why someone would pay 50-100$ or more on a mod, then buy a 5$ crap battery over a 6-7$ known good battery.
it just baffles me.
 
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don't take this the wrong way, but is your opinion based on measurements?
since mxjo and efest are both glorified resellers of manufacturers rejects, I would trust what mooch's tests, numbers and facts are a lot more telling than opinion.
I wouldn't push a rewrap. I tend to think that the extra dollar or two that a good Samsun, LG or sony costs is well worth the money. I never understood why someone would pay 50-100$ or more on a mod, then buy a 5$ crap battery over a 6-7$ known good battery.
it just baffles me.
What's worse is that the fakes often cost more...

fat fingered flubs courtesy dumb mobile phone
 

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What's worse is that the fakes often cost more...

fat fingered flubs courtesy dumb mobile phone
yeah. the ones that really chap my ass are the "specifically designed for vaping" batteries... dumbasses!
 

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Behold......
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.....and that is the Gospel of @Mooch. Amen.
 

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I agree after using them a few times, absolute garbage. I disposed of the pair I bought.
 

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They are in my opinion almost as good as HG2s.
I agree after using them a few times, absolute garbage. I disposed of the pair I bought.
Quick turnaround - can I ask how you formed your opinion prior to using them, and why it changed so fast? Could help future vapers avoid the same mistake if they're using the same logic you were...
 

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First, you should actually ask how I formed my opinion before using them extensively. The first few times, I actually thought they weren't too bad. But thinking about the price and the many other options, I decided to agree. But there are worse batteries rated the same by the manufacturer.
 

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Sorry, I get some weirdos bustig my chops late at night but am respected during the day. I like it here. Just trying to avoid debates and always admit when I'm not the most logical or when I'm incorrect. But you're the boss so let me end the discussion if I may.
 

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Hey man, not trying to pull a boss card or anything - or get called a weirdo bustig chops. Seriously I'm just trying to lead this thread to a logical conclusion so if some noob pulls it up in a search 6 months from now they'll be able to figure out why someone who thought MXJOs were great (lots of people think that initially, especially those who haven't seen the test results) turned on them.

Indeed, how you formed and changed your opinion is exactly what I'm asking! Did you run them through a couple charge cycles at low wattage with good results, then install a high-powered build and experience your cells getting hot, or not holding a charge as long as advertised, or something else?

If you want to cut out on this discussion that's your right, but since it seems you started off thinking one thing, then decided your initial impression was wrong, knowing what sparked that change of mind might be useful in stopping someone else with your initial mindset from wasting money in the first place.
 

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No i didn't call you a weirdo I just wasn't sure if I crossed any lines speaking to a person who could remove me from the forums permanently until I double checked. I used them a while changed my mind. I never said they were the best at least. If I did that would warrant further discussion. But I was almost sure That when I said I changed my opinion, I had nothing else to say worth my or your any other reader's time.
 

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Oh I simply noticed the voltage and amperage dropped off way sooner after only a few cycles. I'm a casual chain vaper. I don't know a great deal about those things you mentioned as possible reasons I changed my mind. I made a snap judgement.
 

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Hell man, call me an incompetent fucking asshat if you want - there are members that have done that and worse without facing any consequences! You don't have to get along with everyone, staff included (though we certainly prefer when you do), just follow the small handful of rules we've got laid out...

Thanks for expanding a little bit on your change of heart, I'll let this thread die now if that's what you're looking for - not sure there's much more to cover. :)
 

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Hell man, call me an incompetent fucking asshat if you want - there are members that have done that and worse without facing any consequences! You don't have to get along with everyone, staff included (though we certainly prefer when you do), just follow the small handful of rules we've got laid out...

Thanks for expanding a little bit on your change of heart, I'll let this thread die now if that's what you're looking for - not sure there's much more to cover. :)
Wait what? You're pulling my chain right? Im the one who doesn't know much about those technical terms. I just wanted to be peaceful and honest. I'm new apparently to this forum so Im very confused about what was taken the wrong way.
 

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Rewraps yes does that mean they are garbage not at all. There are rewraps of popular manufacturers of LG,Samsung,Pannys and Sonys then there are these rewrappers are actually pretty smart buying at wholesale cost in bulk and relabeling. Now its true that not all are as advertised however this in itself does not make them all junk. The
I agree after using them a few times, absolute garbage. I disposed of the pair I bought.
That was a quick change why you would throw them away was senseless if you would have read what others @DED420 posted very well you would have understood that they are fine 20amp batteries just not necessarily what the wrapper says... you could have used them in any freaking regulated mod up to about 120w with no prob... Or on any Mech at .3 ohms and above .40 to be very safe
 

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They weren't VTC4s, LG HE2s, LG HE4s, or LG HG2s. I use all of those regularly for different tanks and coils. They could've been Samsung25Rs since I never used them before. However I think they were possibly something completely different because they were 3000mah almost exactly according to my feature packed XTAR VC4 charger's mah display. Only batteries on that list with 3000mah are the HG2s which they certainly weren't. Similar but a "close, but no cigar" type of experience from those. I gave them away to a friend to try and keep. I would consider them a HG2 lite or diet HG2, if you will lol.
 

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They weren't VTC4s, LG HE2s, LG HE4s, or LG HG2s. I use all of those regularly for different tanks and coils. They could've been Samsung25Rs since I never used them before. However I think they were possibly something completely different because they were 3000mah almost exactly according to my feature packed XTAR VC4 charger's mah display. Only batteries on that list with 3000mah are the HG2s which they certainly weren't. Similar but a "close, but no cigar" type of experience from those. I gave them away to a friend to try and keep. I would consider them a HG2 lite or diet HG2, if you will lol.
You do realise why you got flack above? because you say one thing then you flip. First they were awesome then not awesome! Then you threw them away! But now you have given them to a friend.. Are you sure you know what planet you are on? :)
 

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Definitely not Sammies - I've got both the 25r2 and the 25r5 and they perform as well, if not better than my HE2s and HE4s.
 

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Rewraps yes does that mean they are garbage not at all. There are rewraps of popular manufacturers of LG,Samsung,Pannys and Sonys then there are these rewrappers are actually pretty smart buying at wholesale cost in bulk and relabeling. Now its true that not all are as advertised however this in itself does not make them all junk. The

That was a quick change why you would throw them away was senseless if you would have read what others @DED420 posted very well you would have understood that they are fine 20amp batteries just not necessarily what the wrapper says... you could have used them in any freaking regulated mod up to about 120w with no prob... Or on any Mech at .3 ohms and above .40 to be very safe
I did successful vape them on a Laisimo L1 at .2ohms. But they dropped off too soon for them to be worthy of my collection of 6 pairs of Sony VTC4s (soon to be 18 pairs when the next batch arrives), authentic through and through, I've checked multiple times, 2 pairs of LG HG2s, one pair of LG HE2s as well as a pair of HE4s. Those are the only batteries I use. Strictly for regulated box mods at various resistances. But I have no official info to pass on besides the batteries I know they are definitely not rewraps of.
 

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You do realise why you got flack above? because you say one thing then you flip. First they were awesome then not awesome! Then you threw them away! But now you have given them to a friend.. Are you sure you know what planet you are on? :)
I preemptively stated that I disposed of them butmy friend took them and took it upon himself to decide to try them. Calling my friend a garbage picker isn't exactly true either. They were on my "to be garbage or recycled" back room near the garage. And yes fortunately I know which planet I'm living on.
 

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Those are not details that were worth updating or correcting to abybody apparently. Here are pics.
 

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Here's what Im using now. An LG HG2 pair in series in a Sigelei Fuchai box mod with an Aspire Cleito .2ohm Clapton coil, and two LG HE2s in series in a Laisimo L1 with an Aspire Atlantis 2 .5ohm kanthal coil. Both 75% VG brand name bottled Eliquid. However one is Watermelon bubblegum and the other is a root beer flavor. In case you were wondering what my style is. I reviewed the Laisimo L1
OLED Color Screen 200W Regulated Box Mod capable of vaping between 150W and 200W with the proper batteries. Dual VTC4s are capable of vaping 169W or so on it. Soon we may have even more 18650 options that would allow a 197W vape, though I never felt like using more than 95W and only on my .15ohm TFV4 quadruple coil.
 

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Oh, that 28 min HD video review I posted on the Laisimo Facebook page and gained recognition and positive feedback from Laisimo and/or Asmodus. Now I'm starting to forget which planet I'm on. Lol. I've only been vaping for just over a year and liked watching the old USB ego style vaporizers lose popularity and box mods land onto the scene with only 60W maximum VW available with a single 18650. It wasn't very long ago "200W" dual 18650 VW/TC box mods became the best selling devices...now it's touch screen OLEDs with gorgeous color just it the new affordable devices everbody wants except myself. The Laisimo L1 has an awesome OLED screen that displays your current voltage quite accurately but doesn't have a working battery life indicator bar until a potential fix from a firmware update. But The IPV 5 is my last 18650 mod purchase. I'm tired of the battery game. 50a or so available regardless of their pathetic mah, DNA 200 box mods are going to be my next step. Hopefully they get better and competition increases so prices drop a bit.
 
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