There's no such thing as a "safe" gun....automatic weapons kill far fewer people in america than handguns....one of the things Mooch pointed out is... that if you have a regulated box mod with multiple batteries, and there are tears on the batteries, and they touch..it doesn't matter how many built in safteys you got on the mod you are going to wind up with a thermal runaway....when we tell people there are such things as "safe" mods and "dangerous" mods we are telling them if they buy a "safe" mod they can now be mindless and thoughtless...the dangerous part of the set up is the battery...and as long as you are carrying a battery around you need to pay attention. so if you are going to vape at all you need to be aware of the potential dangers, you can't ignore them because some salesman showed you how to press a bunch of buttons and told you your mod is "safe"..
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I don't know anybody that vapes exculsevly on hybrids....I know lots of people who own one or two...the one I own I love because it is very well built,made of high quality materials,looks good, is short,and performs well,and was affordable...as for low ohm builds...I can't think of a single instance where a thermal runaway was caused by someone standing on a button with a low ohm build...vent the battery sure, but I can't think of any insatnce where they caused a thermal runaway, though it is possible. most of these accidents didn't occur when hybrids came on the scene.....they started appearing when sub ohm tanks with flush 510 pins got screwed onto them...
Sure. As Mooch said, it COULD happen. Has it?
Get back to reality and the "who" of who are buying and using mechs today. It's not us. It's the hipster, Johnny-come-lately, that wants to blow "clouds brah".
nobody is using mechs anymore...hell they are giving the things away...you can buy high end mechs for as cheap as chinese shit regulated mods...
The exploded devices I have seen have an RDA on them not a sub tank. I have only seen 3 or 4 of these incidents on youtube so it may not be representative but every one has an RDA on.
But they ARE. What the hell are the devices that are making headlines? It's sure not a snow wolf!
New vapers are still buying mechs. And they are not learning how to use them anymore.
almost every single one I've seen has three things in common...they were sub ohm tanks with flush 510 pins, screwed onto a hybrid mech, with cheap ass batteries..all the other accidents I've seen were people putting batteries in their pockets.
those headlines for a large part it seem to me are being made in my view by idiots and liars who refused to abide by the saftey guidlines they knew full well, and are trying to slide the blame onto the technology so they don't look like the total assholes they are..
no read his thread regularly...
I think loose batteries in pockets is the absolute top 'vape accident', although of course it is far from an accident it is dumb in it's purest form.
How do you KNOW they knew the guidelines?
Pretty obvious they DON'T know them or their device would not have turned into a rocket.
And you wonder why you are in the dark?!
He goes through a lot of trouble to post this stuff so we can see it. It keeps you up to date, on what's happening.
trying to pass these irresponsible dipshits off as victims is a hard sell...."so tell us son what exactlly happened?" " Well sir, I was just sitting here reading the Bible when this here chinese e-cig just up and attacked me ....blowing my hand up...and they told me vaping was safer than smoking...I'm scarred for life".....I call bullshit.
you are so full shit....tell you what you run around playing chicken little ....there is more than enough information and people out there to teach people how to vape safely on a mech mod.your fearmongering withstanding.
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I have worked with potentially dangerous tools all my adult life...I know exactlly the kind of morons who get in trouble with them....the kind who think they can push a tool to do something it is not meant to do by using the force of their diminutive dicks...and as they are driven to the emegency room to get stiched up I have no sympathy for them.the tool didn't do it to them, they did it to themselves......the kind of idiot that does something he has been repeatedly warned never to do with the tool.....the kind of idiot who has been told to stay away from a tool that he is not trained on and thinks he'll sneak over real quick when nobody is watching and try it out....or....the person who has used the tool so often and for so long he has lost respect for the danger it can do, and they get careless.or the person who uses the tool in a way it is not meant to be used.
Yah got to be constantly trolling around looking for them
I've picked up some killer deals, like a got a couple very good 18650 tubes for $5 each on a blow out sale that were originally listed for $100. I haven't found anything like that since, Mech's seem to having a small comeback. Also El Diablo has really dropped his prices, you can get the Samael for well under $100 and the Shiva Tube same thing. Both are excellent quality and design, that price for a good quality Pinoy Mod, damn!
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Dagnabbit! I'm too busy recording videos and being the expert to look. HahaYah got to be constantly trolling around looking for them
I've picked up some killer deals, like a got a couple very good 18650 tubes for $5 each on a blow out sale that were originally listed for $100. I haven't found anything like that since, Mech's seem to having a small comeback. Also El Diablo has really dropped his prices, you can get the Samael for well under $100 and the Shiva Tube same thing. Both are excellent quality and design, that price for a good quality Pinoy Mod, damn!
Sorry, couldn't help it.
I have been trying keep my eyes open but the last deal I came across was a flagship for 60$ and an overdose for 35$
I would love to get ahold of another good solid tube with beefy contacts or a good parallel box
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It's expensive but the Sith V2 is awesome, quad parallel and battery life literally for days.
Other than that I picked up a Penny Clone from Slowtech for $15 damn it if it isn't one of my best performing tubes. A good authentic tube that was actually given to me was a VGod, I really am pretty impressed with it, it's a direct to battery connection though.
That said favorite tubes are my Arthas and seriously that Penny Clone. Favorite parallel are Sith V2, Nookie V3 and Samael. Favorite Series is VCP Boss and Satan.
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Not a fan of series. I have a few, but they so rarely get used. I have a parallel MOSFET box that's just plain; but, on the lookout for a replacement. Other than that I have plenty of tubes, which I prefer and need more of.
Those penny mods are really nice.
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I really was impressed with the Clone.
Can't believe that I didn't mention it but the Subzero Shorty is awesome, expensive but so worth the cost. It's my favorite 18650 tube.
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I have an authentic stingrayxti that I love! But it has never left the house. Normally I'll run either a praxis v1, flagship or overdose when I'm grabbing a mech. If I want short, concealable and pissed off, I have a 4nine with a bambino. Typically though it's one of the larger ones with a tugboat atty and a simple 24g build.
I see nothing wrong with keeping it overly safe; and can't stand when I see some of these kids blowing shit up with stupid builds that really don't do anything more than overstress the battery.
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I only use tube mods indoors with HB2s nowadays, can't be messing with carrying lots of batteries around with me all day so outside I use a tank and a multi-battery regulated mod that will last all day. Tho I am forcing myself to TC only this week cos I gotta get some use out of my DNA VT 75 which has been doing virtually nothing since I bought it and that has annoyed me.
Unfortunately folks buy guns with the same attitude. There's a reason the top rules are to treat every gun like it's loaded and never to point it at something you don't want to destroy. You basically assume it could go off at any time, and when you eventually do have an accident (which will most certainly be your fault, either directly or by lack of maintenance), you don't hurt someone.
Everything is that way. Everything carries risk. Those who suffer the consequences are often those who failed to understand that risk so didn't take steps to mitigate it.
Anything vape related that directs it as being unsafe is bad for ALL of vaping, Period....The general public doesn't see it as an isolated incident by someone who was stupid...They see it in the general word of vaping and they decide ALL of vaping must be dangerous...Remember, these are the the people who believe everything they hear about in the news and the ones who will vote against vaping or give a stuck up snobbish attitude towards it...Bottom line is, its the dumbasses who aren't careful that are giving vaping a bad name.
I vape exclusively on hybrids or direct to battery mods and have for almost a year. I sold my last regulated mod a year ago. I've never owned a mech that didn't have a direct to battery connection and would never buy one that did. As long as I vape it will be on a direct to battery mech.