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Justcody

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Hello I have a few questions if anyone could help with starting my own juice company. First what paper work and registration I will need to complete for an online store. Secondly I need to find unbias people to sample some flavors before I start. Please don't comment with unreliable information.
 

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I'm sure there are lots of members here that would like to get free samples in exchange for a review of your juice.
Most large cities have chamber of commerce offices that have classes on how to get the paperwork needed to start a business.
 

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You are going to need to form an LLC at a minimum.

Also a lot of places will require you to obtain a licence to sell tobacco products even though you won't be selling any (well unless you are making your own NET liquids).

You may also want to look into renting a space in a commercial kitchen. They will keep the place up to code and will supply you with SS tables and sinks.
 

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Thanks both great information Rj aren't you talking about getting a paten with the LLC. Also Marcus thanks for the commerce part and also how exactly would I find the most reliable reviewers because right now sending tons of samples for me might start to stretch me thin with start up funds.
 
Thanks both great information Rj aren't you talking about getting a paten with the LLC. Also Marcus thanks for the commerce part and also how exactly would I find the most reliable reviewers because right now sending tons of samples for me might start to stretch me thin with start up funds.

To help you out I've got a lot of VG and I'll be getting in some PG here soon that I'll give to you. Maybe a gallon or so of each. It's not much but maybe it'll help you get a start. That way it'll help cut down on raw materials.
 

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Goto legalzoom.com and get an llc going. Each states price is going to be different and cheaper than California is.

Second you will need a business license from your local city. If you aren't doing brick and mortar sales, then you most likely won't need any special tobacco licenses. I'd check your local laws however, just to be sure. CA has Dept of ABC which controls alcohol and tobacco. Every state has some sort of version of this for tax collection purposes.

Third and most important, you're going to need an insurance policy for at least $1 million. Even though an LLC will protect your personal assets, you need insurance to cover anything civil that comes down. This is a food grade consumable and there are risks involved. Be smart about it and you should be quite successful.

Good luck
 

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how exactly would I find the most reliable reviewers
read the forums and keep track of member that post a lot. Any member with RMarcusY in his name is a good one to start with. Member that have been members for several months, or have high post counts, have a red reviewer badge, or you see them reviewing other juices,etc.
Some new companies have just posted something like
"Free juice to review to the first 20 people who reply"
 

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Just a random thought.
To help offset the costs for the samples to be reviewed a donation of lets say $10-$20 would be more than sufficient to cover the expenses for supplies and shipping.
 

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I'm just a small DIYer for my friends and family. I can make a 30ml bottle of juice for under a dollar. That includes a new bottle. A friend told me yesterday that she ships small item (paperback books, jewelry, knickknacks) for $2 with the USPS.
 

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All very good points but my samples would be like 10-15 different flavors so 10-15 then maybe a little room for shipping I mean once I start my new job selling insurance start up costs won't be so harsh. Thanks for your input guys where would I open a thread for people to review my juice? DIY section probably
 
I would go to a professional to get your LLC setup. I personally went to a bookkeeper that somebody referred me to. The whole process took a couple weeks however I was working and we communicated via email. After you have your EIN you can setup a business account at a bank. I think it cost me around $300 for the LLC.
 

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What business licenses and such that you'll need will depend on where you are located. If I was a few miles down the road from where I live, I'd need a business license from the city. Being where I'm at, no licensing needed for a business. Like already mentioned, you may or may not need a tobacco license, depending on where you are. You'll need sales tax permit (if you live in an area that has sales tax). You'll have business property tax to file and pay every year (if your area does that - it's a tax on your business assets & inventory, different from income tax). Product liability insurance (like already mentioned).
 

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It might be cheaper (or even free) to set up an LLC via your states official website. Normally www.(state abbreviation).gov

LLC stands for Limited Liability Company, which protects your personal assets in the event of a lawsuit. Otherwise, you would be operating under your own legal name (regardless of what you called the company) and any lawsuits would be against your legal name resulting in the loss of your personal assets (home, car, etc). But with an LLC, the only things effected in a lawsuit would be the assets owned by the company itself.

If it's an at-home business with you being the only employee, you could use your SSN as the tax id for the business even if it is an LLC. Might not need any other insurance or licenses either then. How much net income you can make before needing to pay business taxes on it will depend on your states laws.

When it comes to renting commercial space, the leaser may want (or need) to know business information, such as business license numbers and insurance policies. Depending on your state laws, renting a commercially zoned kitchen could result in requiring insurance and paying taxes on any income made, as it signifies the business is growing from a small at-home operation to a larger scale and Uncle Sam will want his cut of your income.

If you wish to hire other employees, then you definitely need a separate Tax ID (or EIN, Employer Identification Number) for the business, you will have to file stuff with the IRS regarding employee wages, collect taxes from employee wages, need insurance (to cover employee injuries), and even pay taxes on the business income. Pretty sure this falls back on the money limits though, I mean, if your only making a hundred dollars a month and have a buddy come over to help when your feeling sick, I doubt you would be required by law to make him an officially recognized employee of the company and have the insurance necessary to pay him workman's comp (I could be wrong though).

If you want to rent an actual retail location for customers to visit then you will most likely need a retail license. These can also be free via your states website and they must be displayed at the retail location. If you go into any business accessible to the public (like walmart, gas station, DR office, etc), you can see a bunch of framed documents hanging behind the customer service desk or somewhere near the front. These are retail licenses etc.

All this stuff varies from state to state though.
It's also been a decade since I was looking into setting up my own business, so this stuff may have changed a bit. It's also pretty damn easy to get away with not doing some of the stuff above.



But as an example:
Buddy of mine lives in TX and makes smoked nuts to sell at carnivals etc.
If he makes more then $500 a month, he has to pay taxes on it.
He cannot go into smoked meats or cheeses without a food service license.
Also says he would need a retail license if he wanted to rent a commercial kitchen.
 
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Hey I would gladly review your juices drop a pm for my info or if you have questions
 

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Hey @Justcody I would gladly sample your juices and give them an honest review either on your site or on here (or on both for that matter). I do a lot of buying on Amazon and review 90% of items I receive and have even had a couple of companies send me free items in return for an honest review afterwards. I'd like to think I'm pretty well known on the VU and have traded with/bought from many people on here as well. Just let me know what you think :D
 

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