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On a fully charged battery you're pulling 22amps, are you sure your battery isn't a 20amp limit?


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What battery are you using? Can it handle those amps?


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Ya thanks for looking out useing 25r at those ohms i'm good till bout 55 watts new to dual but got the minor stuff down.
 

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When you pulse are they both heating up equally?


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Ya thanks for looking out useing 25r at those ohms i'm good till bout 55 watts new to dual but got the minor stuff down.
You sure you're using 26g? Kanthal? You should be around a 0.4ohm?
Does that mod have an atty lock feature? Are you sure you're in power mode?
Do You have another mod or an ohm meter to check it on?
 

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You sure you're using 26g? Kanthal? You should be around a 0.3ohm?
Does that mod have an atty lock feature? Are you sure you're in power mode?
Do You have another mod or an ohm meter to check it on?
It says it's 26g on the package been useing it 4ever with no prob. The olny other mod i've got is a subox it won't read the bellus to low. But when I put my subtank on the evic it reads the same as the kbox. Should also point out idk if you might have missed it but it's twisted 26g. And thanks for the help.
 

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Oh didn't see the twisted part, if the mod and battery check out as able to handle the load and the heat is your concern, I would make sure the coil isn't to right up against the wall of the atty.
If its too hot to touch or the battery and mod are too hot to touch. You may want to consider building it higher.

If everything checks out, its all good
 

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You'll probably really enjoy then!

That's about what I discovered. The bellus does have much better flavor with my adv juice, but the vape was so cool that it just weirded me out I guess? In two years of vaping, and, I have tried most RTAs that have been out in that time, its definitely a unique vaping experience. Not bad at all, just different. Its kind of like vaping a tobh but with a cool vape. -only way I can think to explain it.

This^^^^^^ is exactly is what is driving me nuts about the Bellus and thought maybe it was just me. The vape is def cooler and dry. It's easy to build on, doesn't leak and no dry hits BUT...I can NOT get a warm vape regardless of what I try. Single coil, dual, higher watts, close AC up..nothing.

This Crius sounds promising but...can the AC close up some? I don't like super airy draws and I'm more of a MTL vapor. Usually build around .40-.50 and like warmth! Was gonna try the Goblin Mini but I just can't stand bottom fill tanks. Such a PITA
 

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This^^^^^^ is exactly is what is driving me nuts about the Bellus and thought maybe it was just me. The vape is def cooler and dry. It's easy to build on, doesn't leak and no dry hits BUT...I can NOT get a warm vape regardless of what I try. Single coil, dual, higher watts, close AC up..nothing.

This Crius sounds promising but...can the AC close up some? I don't like super airy draws and I'm more of a MTL vapor. Usually build around .40-.50 and like warmth! Was gonna try the Goblin Mini but I just can't stand bottom fill tanks. Such a PITA

AC is fully adjustable, so can make it as tight as you like, I am a MTL vapor too, and is working good for me :)
 

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AC is fully adjustable, so can make it as tight as you like, I am a MTL vapor too, and is working good for me :)

Awesome and thanks! Warm vape too? Hopefully warmer than the damn Bellus
 

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Awesome and thanks! Warm vape too? Hopefully warmer than the damn Bellus

Yes, mine is running at .46ohms @ 35 watts and is a good warm vape, easily can go higher if wanted more heat, I had it up to 60 watts, but that was to warm for my liking.
 

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This^^^^^^ is exactly is what is driving me nuts about the Bellus and thought maybe it was just me. The vape is def cooler and dry. It's easy to build on, doesn't leak and no dry hits BUT...I can NOT get a warm vape regardless of what I try. Single coil, dual, higher watts, close AC up..nothing.

This Crius sounds promising but...can the AC close up some? I don't like super airy draws and I'm more of a MTL vapor. Usually build around .40-.50 and like warmth! Was gonna try the Goblin Mini but I just can't stand bottom fill tanks. Such a PITA
Such good flavor but, dammit, its just to weird. SORRY Mrs.Angie, it took me forever to nail down what it was.
But, yes, like @Nailz said, the crius is much better. It's warm, dense and saturated and you can close it down all the way if you wanted to. You cam shut the juiceflow off also. I have a 0.2 ohm build pushing 50w and its thick, dense and flavorful with the afc about 1/4 open.
-wetvapes has the new one in now with the bigger postholes and the standard 510drip tip. Got that one yesterday and the postholes are bigger but the driptip is still a trial and error.
 

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Such good flavor but, dammit, its just to weird. SORRY Mrs.Angie, it took me forever to nail down what it was.
But, yes, like @Nailz said, the crius is much better. It's warm, dense and saturated and you can close it down all the way if you wanted to. You cam shut the juiceflow off also. I have a 0.2 ohm build pushing 50w and its thick, dense and flavorful with the afc about 1/4 open.
-wetvapes has the new one in now with the bigger postholes and the standard 510drip tip. Got that one yesterday and the postholes are bigger but the driptip is still a trial and error.
can you compare the crius flavor to a crown and billows v2?
 

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can you compare the crius flavor to a crown and billows v2?
I don't have a crown; but, compared to the billow2 I do find it to be a little more pleasurable of a vape, easier to wick, much easier to build on; and, the airflow can be opened up airier.
Flavor wise I would give it just a touch more than the billow when its closed down some. Opened wide up with the power cranked up you'll get more cloud production, and naturally a more muted flavor.
 

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Pssst... Goblin Mini said a little voice. :)

LOLOL! I know, I know but I can not seem to get over that damn bottom fill crap! Why OH why??? If it had top fill or side fill or flip it around upside down then top fill, I'd be all over it! I feel like the advancement of vaping, there should be NO MORE BOTTOM FILL o_O
 

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LOLOL! I know, I know but I can not seem to get over that damn bottom fill crap! Why OH why??? If it had top fill or side fill or flip it around upside down then top fill, I'd be all over it! I feel like the advancement of vaping, there should be NO MORE BOTTOM FILL o_O
Its the tool thing! I hate the idea of needing a tool to fill. Its just not happening. You forget your little screwdriver and you're back to feeling like you have a pack of cigs without a lighter.
-not happening #bottomfillcanbiteme
 

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I totally agree with this. I love top/side filling, I can do it stuck in traffic to and from work in 3 seconds, so convenient.


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Totally sucks but what sucks worse is it sounds like an awesome tank. :(
 

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Couple questions about the Crius.

How big are those holes for the leads? I know I find the single coil on the TFv4 a bit too small, will these be an issue as well?

The sliding shield for the side fill, how well does it keep shut? my TFv4 has popped open twice in my pocket from rattling around, luckily I have the vape bands and I can toss those on to prevent it from rotating off, with the sliding mechanic I figure it'd be harder to lock in place if it accidentally opening is an issue.

Interested in picking up another RTA, was initially just going to grab another TFv4, but looking at that Crius I'm certainly interested. The Lemo looks solid as well as I like vertical coils and the Crius looks a bit cramped for that. I'm loving twisted coils, mainly in that they seem to heat up more consistently, not sure if that's phrased correctly, but basically single strands have me getting too hot late in the draw, while the twisted is warm throughout but not burning at the end. Being able to make a vertical coil of twisted would be nice, my alternative right now is borrowing a drill/dremel and widening the holes in my single deck for the TFv4, which I'll likely do either way. But, another tank sounds fun too.
 

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Couple questions about the Crius.

How big are those holes for the leads? I know I find the single coil on the TFv4 a bit too small, will these be an issue as well?

The sliding shield for the side fill, how well does it keep shut? my TFv4 has popped open twice in my pocket from rattling around, luckily I have the vape bands and I can toss those on to prevent it from rotating off, with the sliding mechanic I figure it'd be harder to lock in place if it accidentally opening is an issue.

Interested in picking up another RTA, was initially just going to grab another TFv4, but looking at that Crius I'm certainly interested. The Lemo looks solid as well as I like vertical coils and the Crius looks a bit cramped for that. I'm loving twisted coils, mainly in that they seem to heat up more consistently, not sure if that's phrased correctly, but basically single strands have me getting too hot late in the draw, while the twisted is warm throughout but not burning at the end. Being able to make a vertical coil of twisted would be nice, my alternative right now is borrowing a drill/dremel and widening the holes in my single deck for the TFv4, which I'll likely do either way. But, another tank sounds fun too.
Dude get the dual rba for the tfv4 it really makes for a awesome cloud machine with great flavor. Havnt picked up my other rta's since. Throws clouds like my mx4
 

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Ohh I have it, and using it as I type. No real complaints at all about the TFv4. Love the hell out of it. But, I was thinking about grabbing another tank or two just to have different flavors on the fly. Initially my thought was just to grab more TFv4s, but honestly, the premade coils are not really that great to me, very airy, fun to play with but not something I want every day. So my thought was to buy one of the Mini's set it up with the single coil RBA deck in a vertical coil and have a go with that. However, if there's something out there that'd be new, fun, and possibly better suited, well I'm interested in at least looking at it.

Have to say I'm a big fan of vertical coils, just seems to pack more of a punch. Possibly a bit more airy, but in my experience rebuilding Atlantis coils I've learned how to deal with that (constrict the coil size a bit).

Anyways, no need to convince me on the TFv4, easily IMO the best thing out there simply due to it's versatility, but figured I might as well look around and ask some questions while I wait for the black Mini to come out because I plan on grabbing at least one of those when it does. I'll likely do some work on my single RBA this weekend (widening holes, possibly adjusting the cap for more juice flow if needed, and hopefully new wire comes in so that I can play with different coil builds in Vertical).

But, yeah, the TFv4 is amazing, I ordered more quad coils with my wire just to play with. Brought it out this last weekend just to show off to some friends (yeah I'm shameless) and had them going "wtf man". The tank is brilliant, the coil variety astounding, the RBA decks are fantastic. Never a need to question my love for that tank, if I don't find something that fills some niche better than it I'll probably end up with 3 of them. I see little reason to spend money on prebuilt coils at this point, the only reason I bought the quad coils is they were "cheap" and it's fun to play with. The money I'll save using the RBA decks will make that purchase a minuscule amount overall. Right now I'm working on finding a half dozen cheaper juice flavors I enjoy, and that's far more of a cost than anything else (DIY juice will have to wait till next spring as work is quite crazy and I just don't have the time or space to do that atm).

The TFv4 is simply perfect, no complaints, just no harm in looking at other options to fill any niche it leaves open, which isn't likely. I will say I like the 22mm diameter as it fits better on some of the mods I have, so if there happens to be a better option, I'm going to look into it at least as there are a few minor complaints about the TFv4, but none that can't be dealt with given the options that are available. It's the tank I'd suggest to anyone interested in rebuilding their own setups but maybe not dead set on it as it has options for both, it's the best tank out there as far as I'm concerned, but being a bit amateur myself I feel it's worth looking elsewhere even if I think it's as close to perfect as you can get.

(rebuilt my dual coil today (twisted 26g Kanthal at .2ohm) and I've gone through double my normal usage of juice, just having fun with it, again great tank, no real complaints, just curious if there might be something else out there worth getting)
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Yeah when I got mine the tfv4 "mini" came out days later I was shit... Need one of them now lol. What about the cithulu 2? Velocity style deck. I also diy and love it , nothing like making 30ml juice for less than a dollar or 2
 
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Just got the Crius and its DEF a warmer and moister vape than the Bellus. Flavor really pops on it and I was able to find a DT that works on it. It does seem more towards a DL hit than a MTL like the Bellus. I have the Bellus wide open BUT a single coil.

I closed up the Crius a bit, but it has a dual coil so can't close it off too much without it getting too hot. I don't need a bunch of clouds, but was thinking I would get more on this atty. again tho, maybe my wicking.

i need to figure out the best amount of KGD and I already made the error that I saw in a vid an accidentally closed the juice control when I was screwing on my mod but caught it right away. I'd say the JC and AFC don't move as freely from each other but I need to play with it more.
 

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Ok..got to edit my review. Now that my wicks are fully saturated...a crap load of vapor! Most importantly....it's a warm vape and that's what I was looking for. Flavor is popping too!

Think I'm gonna get another one but gonna do black! :)
 

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On getting a warm vape from the Bellus. I just got one. What I'm using right now is a 24 AGW nichrome dual coil 2.5mm ID set up. I close the air flow more than a little past half way and run it at 70 watts on my Sig150. It's nice, warm, and moist. Got to say, once I got my wicking down it hits great. not a dry hit in sight with plenty of chain vaping.
 

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Same with me...I wick'd my Bellus with the least amount possible and I'm getting awesome hits, awesome warmth and not the slightest dry hit, even when trying to while chain vaping for a while.

As for as leaking I haven't had an issue at all. Maybe a little spitter when you first fill or refill but it has gone away after 2 drags ( I think this happens with most tanks anyways)

All in all, great vape, easy build, easy wicking, easy refill. A+ from me.


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I have the Goliath v2 soaking in dawn overnight, once she's cleaned and I build tomorrow I'll let ya know how it is.


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Hate to say it but the Bellus is what I wanted the Cthulhu V2 to be. I'm going to stick some Claptons in it soon and see what I can get out of it in terms of performance.
 

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I love my Steam Crave Aromamizer with the Velocity deck. Easy dual vertical coil build and doesn't leak with proper wicking.
 

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I just stuck dual claptons in my bellus. About a .27 build. Vapes like a champ at only 35 watts.
 

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You guys that have the bellus, how does it stack up against the tfv4 as far as flavor and vapor production?
 

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I find the bellus has a better flavor than the aromamizer but it's close. Both are very airy even with shutting down the bellus to half open on the AFC. That said I love my bellus. And the aromamizer also sits on one of my mods without the ugly vape band AFC. I have not tried the OBS. I have used a goblin mini which I traded ( too damn hard to fill for so little juice capacity ) and also traded away a zephyrus - the other RTAs were simply better.

Now I've heard complaints about the deck size. Truly I'm not building alien coils or claptons in my RTAs. I'm fine with 24 gauge wrapped at 2.5 for a build just under .3 ohms. I have RDAs for the fancy builds. RTAs are ADVs. I don't need to vape at high wattage at work (nor do I want to). I want a bit stealthier vape.

I guess it comes down top preferences. There are so many good RTAs out now, so many good sub ohm tanks. It is hard not to enjoy a vape these days. I know some of you remember when we though the mini nautilus was the cat's meow. In fact the new nautilus coils seem like they burn out a lot quicker. We have moved past the nautilus. Then came the kanger mini (I still use one occasionally) and we were raving about it. Itt was really good for it's time. It still is not bad. But the new RTAs blow those tanks away.

All the new sub ohm tanks now seem to come with RBAs as well and there are some very, very good tanks out there. How to choose? My mod and tank collection is growing every month now, lol. Is there too much of a good thing?
I agree I think the reason for the Bellus flavor is simple the air holes on the side are very similar to the RDA the YEP which has tremendous flavor do to all the small holes for air adjustment if you take the ring off and vape its way different
 

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I agree I think the reason for the Bellus flavor is simple the air holes on the side are very similar to the RDA the YEP which has tremendous flavor do to all the small holes for air adjustment if you take the ring off and vape its way different
What is this YEP that you speak of ?
 

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Its an older RDA me find it for ya here ya go
I used to have one I lost it or some shit.. Its just a theory
http://ironmouth.com/yep-rda-kingtu/
Ahhhhh ok I gotcha, yeah I've seen a similar theory, the pinholes cause a swirl effect in the airflow. At least that's what they say. I've not tried an RDA that does that.
 

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Ahhhhh ok I gotcha, yeah I've seen a similar theory, the pinholes cause a swirl effect in the airflow. At least that's what they say. I've not tried an RDA that does that.
You are the Yep I mean the Yep is you I mean the Yep is for you.. Pick up a clone man they really are nice I wish I would not have lost it think it was somewhere in Memphis or somewhere in that area when I was trying to see "The King (ELVIS) haha
 

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You are the Yep I mean the Yep is you I mean the Yep is for you.. Pick up a clone man they really are nice I wish I would not have lost it think it was somewhere in Memphis or somewhere in that area when I was trying to see "The King (ELVIS) haha
Actually, believe it or not, I finally found my happy place with hardware. And I'm starting to liquidate 99% of my gear.
 

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Getting the same way. Got a few stellar tanks , a few good capable mods that I use daily. All the rest are rarely used. Time to off load the rest I'm thinking


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You guys that have the bellus, how does it stack up against the tfv4 as far as flavor and vapor production?

I've vaped a TFV4, but I don't own one. Take this with a grain of salt.

I think the Bellus is doing much better for me than a TFV4 would. I have dual 24/36 AGW nichrome set up in it right now. 2mm ID 0.17 ohms. These are angry little coils. Instant response, awesome flavor. The air flow is more than adequate. This thing doesn't dry hit at 80 watts. I've never had it leak on me. This thing is now my daily vape.
 

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I've vaped a TFV4, but I don't own one. Take this with a grain of salt.

I think the Bellus is doing much better for me than a TFV4 would. I have dual 24/36 AGW nichrome set up in it right now. 2mm ID 0.17 ohms. These are angry little coils. Instant response, awesome flavor. The air flow is more than adequate. This thing doesn't dry hit at 80 watts. I've never had it leak on me. This thing is now my daily vape.
Curious, what kind of build in the TFV4?

I ask as I'm certainly interested in the Bellus. It'd probably be my next purchase, but I've set up this coil on the TFv4 that I simply can't imagine being beat (vertical coil on the single build that's best summed up as an Atlantis coil on super mega steroids that I run at 150w and feel like I could go higher once I get my new mod).

The deck for dual coil builds certainly seems better on the Bellus. The side airflow seems interesting as well. So I'm just trying to get a grasp of what you feel is better about it?

Right now my main tank is the TFv4 obviously, and I have a Mini that has taken over my lower wattage usage. But as it's become a hobby I'm interested in expanding still. And, right now it's between the Bellus, Crius and Lemo II if I think one can overtake my usage on the two TFv4's.
 

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Curious, what kind of build in the TFV4?

I ask as I'm certainly interested in the Bellus. It'd probably be my next purchase, but I've set up this coil on the TFv4 that I simply can't imagine being beat (vertical coil on the single build that's best summed up as an Atlantis coil on super mega steroids that I run at 150w and feel like I could go higher once I get my new mod).

The deck for dual coil builds certainly seems better on the Bellus. The side airflow seems interesting as well. So I'm just trying to get a grasp of what you feel is better about it?

Right now my main tank is the TFv4 obviously, and I have a Mini that has taken over my lower wattage usage. But as it's become a hobby I'm interested in expanding still. And, right now it's between the Bellus, Crius and Lemo II if I think one can overtake my usage on the two TFv4's.

I just prefer the Bellus. My friend whose TFv4 I used the triple coil head. He's not a builder. If you like the TFv4 I say keep using it unless you just want to try the Bellus in which case use it.
 

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