New wicking: toasty cotton?

[f1r3b1rd]

Anyone ever use this stuff?
I didn't buy it but I was I tempted. If I didn't have a few packs of of cotton from Nordstrom I may have tried this.

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[shawn.hoefer]

Natural isn't organic... proceed with caution...

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[f1r3b1rd]

Just curious..... I mean it's a 2 pack value

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[scalewiz]

You'll have wick till your weinie falls off.

 

[freemind]

Isn't batting usually backed with other materials?

 

[scalewiz]

Batting is just the filler. Should be nothing wrong with it if it hasn't been treated with anything, such as something to make it fire resistant. Make sure it's cotton and not polyester or something other.

If it tastes good, suck on it.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

If it tastes good, suck on it.

I'm putting that on a t-shirt

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[f1r3b1rd]

Isn't batting usually backed with other materials?

I don't know... I was in JoAnn fabrics and saw this.
That's all I know, I've never heard of batting; but, was just told it was something in a quilt.

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[MrScaryZ]

Anyone ever use this stuff?
I didn't buy it but I was I tempted. If I didn't have a few packs of of cotton from Nordstrom I may have tried this.

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could be bleached or processed in some way when I first saw it I though it said bedding and thought you had lost your mind

 

[freemind]

I don't know... I was in JoAnn fabrics and saw this.
That's all I know, I've never heard of batting; but, was just told it was something in a quilt.

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Yes, it's the filler in a quilt. My mother used to make quilts.

Read the package if you intend to buy it. When I searched it, one place said it was poly backed.

 

[MrScaryZ]

I just looked for you they do make organic cotton but it labeled as such https://www.fairfieldworld.com/store/90-x-108/organic-cotton-classic-batting-90-x-108/
on fairfields site the say this batting has a synthetic scrim

 

[scalewiz]

If you buy it without backing, then it is just cotton filler. Probably closer to 'natural' than anything else most people use. When it's stuffed inside a quilt, there's no need for that bleaching, combing and sterilizing like is done to cotton balls or things made for cosmetic use. For those who like natural, it's probably the closest thing to a cotton field.

Buy it without the scrim.

 

[Huckleberried]

I'm putting that on a t-shirt

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Or the name of a candy shop.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Hmmm that other may work

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[scalewiz]

Not promoting a brand or vendor...................
https://www.amazon.com/Pellon®-Natures-Touch®-Natural-Batting/dp/B004ILOIA0

 

[MrScaryZ]

Not promoting a brand or vendor...................
https://www.amazon.com/Pellon®-Natures-Touch®-Natural-Batting/dp/B004ILOIA0

This could be bleached

 

[The Cromwell]

been vaping on a box of this for 2 years now. almost 1/2 gone. Under $4.
Purchased at Sally Beauty Supply.

 

[MrScaryZ]

been vaping on a box of this for 2 years now. almost 1/2 gone. Under $4.
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is it organic as in unbleached or ? just curious

 

[The Cromwell]

is it organic as in unbleached or ? just curious

Neither one as far as I can tell but works fine and is 100% US cotton.
None of that imported crap

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I've been using
http://m.shop.nordstrom.com/s/shiseido-facial-cotton/2935650

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[The Cromwell]

yeah lots of people use Muji pads.

 

[Synphul]

I'd agree, natural and organic aren't the same thing. They often have specific guidelines they follow to use various terms. Batting as others mentioned is a fluffy filler material, can be used for the stuffing in quilts, throw pillows and the like. No idea on that stuff in particular but the batting I've felt before was kind of funky feeling. It usually has backing layers on one or both sides (to prevent separation and fly away) and usually isn't all nicely aligned in one direction. Something you'd probably want for wicking.

Like the muji pads mentioned, the cotton is combed and all one direction. It either pulls tight and stops or feathers out. Batting is usually every which way with multiple layers. To each their own, I probably wouldn't use it personally but that's me.

This from a FAQ on a materials site that deals in bedding items (quilting, batting etc.)

Organic -
"Organic certification and true organic labeling can only be attained if the soil on the cotton farm (or where sheep are raised for organic wool) has undergone inspection by an accredited certification organization which has strict guidelines and standards. These farmers and ranchers must follow organic protocol that nurture and protect the animal and soil while prohibiting the use of chemicals such as insecticides, herbicides and fungicides that are toxic and harmful to humans and the environment. These toxic substances continue to outgas in fabric even after processing."

Natural -
"Natural or green labeling can be confusing and actually misleading. It sounds safe but the only requirement (for which there is currently no federal standard or inspection process) is that the end products are supposed to have not been treated with formaldehyde or bleached with toxic chlorine but there is no way to be sure. Cotton plants which are some of the highest sprayed plants in the U.S., can be treated with pesticides during the growing process and still have the end product labeled natural or green."

Referenced from this site
http://www.nofeathersplease.com/faqsandorderinfo

"Natural" isn't as wholesome as it leads people to believe.

 

[scalewiz]

I'm not sure that anything can be done to cotton wick to make it worse than the cigarettes we used to smoke.

If it tastes good, suck on it.

 

[The Cromwell]

Cotton plants which are some of the highest sprayed plants in the U.S., can be treated with pesticides during the growing process and still have the end product labeled natural or green."

And we know that imported cotton is not sprayed? Ohh yeah the label says.... You think Japan actually grows all of that cotton?
Still far better than smoking, tobacco plants are sprayed as well
Tobacco can be organic. Would it be good for ya?

 

[freemind]

I've never been sold on "organic" this or that. Maybe that's because I spent enough time actually farming, that I know what's up.

I'm also not sold on non GMO, and antibiotic free.....

 

[The Cromwell]

Cyanide is an naturally occurring organic substance. Must be good for us?

Just because something is organic....

 

[Synphul]

I cited information made available from the source I listed, it wasn't my words or my study. Simply sharing terms and stipulations followed by those in the bedding industry (those who use things like batting). If someone doesn't agree then they should take it up with the source or maybe suggest information which shows otherwise. People are free to vape on whatever they like, their choice.

Sometimes you try to share info with people and they get all asshurt like you're trying to convince them the earth isn't flat anymore lol. I just happen to know that there are buzzwords used in labeling which is misleading. Things like 'natural' when referring to textiles.

@The Cromwell , you suggest 'you think Japan really grows all that cotton?'. Do you know it isn't? You say 'and we know imported cotton isn't sprayed' - do you know that it is? Is there any indication otherwise or just speculation because it comes from 'asia' so it 'must be fake/dirty/lesser quality' based on a bias of some sort?

I'm just curious, I think a healthy discussion is great but if arguing something shouldn't there be some sort of relevant basis for the counter argument? I'm by no means promoting a specific brand or even a type of material to vape with. I simply pointed out very real potential differences in labeling and materials. As an example Muji pads are labeled certified organic and since many are sold in the U.S. I'm pretty sure they would be held accountable to their labeling if it were false. I tried searching for complaints or proof otherwise and found absolutely squat to contradict the organic designation. You'd think if they were lying or misleading at least someone would have made a statement or complaint and in this industry given all the vape shops that sell it, it likely would have gone viral.

 

[The Cromwell]

that just might be US cotton in your Japanese cotton...
http://www.usdajapan.org/en/reports/The History of US Cotton in Japan.pdf

 

[The Cromwell]

And here is the organic standards documentation. Might want to look at 205.601.
Bleaching cotton does not make it inorganic.
And these regs are mainly about FOOD not cotton.




http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...c=true&node=pt7.3.205&rgn=div5#se7.3.205_1601

 

[r055co]

My favorite is Koh gen Do. It's unbleached, organic and super easy to work with. With the large pads the cotton fibers are combed out so it's just cut a piece, fluff it, stuff it, trim it and juice it. Works wonderful, super inexpensive, wicks extremely well, plus no shitty taste and no harsh dry throat that I get with Rayon.

I've also got a couple of 1lb rolls of Dental Cotton, actually works pretty damn well but I still prefer Koh gen Do

 

[Synphul]

And here is the organic standards documentation. Might want to look at 205.601.
Bleaching cotton does not make it inorganic.
And these regs are mainly about FOOD not cotton.




http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...c=true&node=pt7.3.205&rgn=div5#se7.3.205_1601

Has absolutely nothing to do with the difference between the terminology (marketing words) differences between 'natural' and 'organic' which is what I was pointing out. Informative troll though.

 

[The Cromwell]

Has absolutely nothing to do with the difference between the terminology (marketing words) differences between 'natural' and 'organic' which is what I was pointing out. Informative troll though.

That link is to the regulations that pertain to organic products in the USA and SE Asia.
Enjoy it.

 

[Synphul]

I can read, thanks. I know what it is. It also said nothing about cyanide being allowed or any reference to Muji, their country of origin or any of the other baseless arguments you attempted to make. Enjoy.