newbie temp control question

[vapebeast92]

My question is when in temp control mode using lets say a notch coil in the stainless steel setting, what is the proper settings to have it an as far as like amps, watts ,volts and anything else and if I don't have them right will it damage my mod or just the coil? I am using a cuboid mini.
Thanks

 

[fq06]

I would set temp to 550° and set watts to 30 and vape it. Didn't get warm enough within a short time? Try 35 watts. Getting there?
Keep bumping watts up till it gets to a overly warm to you vape temp within a second or two

Now you have the power set up to get your coils up to temp quickly so pull the temperature down to the temp that is comfortable to you and gives you the best flavor for the particular juice you are vaping.

If you have a short because the coil is not installed correctly, your mod will tell you about it and not fire. No damage.

Don't worry about volts, that's calculated by the mod and is not adjustable.

Note on the notch coil, depending on what metal the legs are, you may need to go into tcr mode and set a custom tcr of say 105 if the legs are not stainless. If you max out the temp and have gotten up to 60 watts and its not getting hot, then tcr needs to be higher than what the SS mode is set to.
If the first paragraph works, disregard this. If you cant get a high temp out of it, tcr needs to be played with.

 

[vapebeast92]

I would set temp to 550° and set watts to 30 and vape it. Didn't get warm enough within a short time? Try 35 watts. Getting there?
Keep bumping watts up till it gets to a overly warm to you vape temp within a second.

Now you have the power set up to get your coils up to temp quickly so pull the temperature down to the temp that is comfortable to you and gives you the best flavor for the particular juice you are vaping.

If you have a short because the coil is not installed correctly, your mod will tell you about it and not fire. No damage.

Don't worry about volts, that's calculated by the mod and is not adjustable.

Ok thank you. What about amps though do they set them self as well? And also ur saying I wouldn't damage the mod because it protects itself right?

Also if you could tell me, what is power mode and bypass mode?

 

[fq06]

Amps is the power measurement of the juice coming out of the battery, it is not an adjustment.

This part is in the manual and you should get familiar with it.
Power mode is not temp control mode, just watt adjustment.
Bypass is no regulation, just the full amout of juice the battery has to the coil till you release the button.

 

[fq06]

The mod will tell you if there is a short and will protect itself but if you are going to build coils you should use an ohm meter.
Get to know ohms law (simple)
Make sure you are using a good battery, not something you think is a deal. That could cost dearly.

 

[fq06]

There is a great write up about begginers guide to rebuildables and a ton of other good info in this forum, you will be on your way to understanding your gear and being able to put a well running setup together in no time.

 

[f1vefour]

I agree with 30 watts but 550° is hot, I would start at 420° and go up or down depending on what temperature you like to vape at.

 

[fq06]

Here you go
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/full-beginners-guide-to-rebuildable-vaping.234478/

 

[fq06]

I agree with 30 watts but 550° is hot, I would start at 420° and go up or down depending on what temperature you like to vape at.

Read the instructions again, I'm not suggesting to stay at 550°

 

[f1vefour]

Read the instructions again, I'm not suggesting to stay at 550°

I did miss that

 

[fq06]

To me the main benefit of TC in that it gets to the set temp quickly and doesn't get too hot at the end of the hit.
Watt mode you balance the power to get the coil hot quickly but not too much power to where it's too hot at the end of the pull. You sacrifice on one side or the other IMO.

TC I uncork temp and find out what watt setting gets it ramped up quick to a temp that's hotter than I like. Then I pull the temp down to where I like it. More importantly, temp the juice I happen to be vaping tastes best at.

You want more power than what the temp is set to, get it up there fast and hold at your set temp.
If it is pulsing or "rattlesnakeing" you probably got a little too crazy with the watts for the temp you want... back it off a bit.

Watts - speed to temp.
Temp - is temp

 

[f1vefour]

SXK boards are quite pulsey when the wattage is too high, Joyetech/Wismec smoother, DNA200 even smoother, and the smoothest I have used is the Hohm Wrecker G2 which is not pulsey at all.

You are spot on, great way of explaining TC and your methodology of obtaining a vape similar to standard wattage mode using TC.

 

[romenov]

I don't get it, for me the TC mode is invented to put everything behind the tech and just leave the temp for vapers to control, it provides a great way for vapers to quickly and conveniently get the desired temp of vapor,
when you set the temp, the mod will keep detecting the resistance of the supported coil, and the resistance changes when the temp of the coil changes, so the mod will adjust the output power to keep the temp of the coil (and almost the same temp of the vapor) around the temp you set.
So for me the only thing I need to do is finding the best flavor & temp combination, and let go the watts thing. I only use watts mode when I want big vapor, this is my experience, hope it's helpful

 

[f1vefour]

You have to look at wattage on a TC device as preheat and how aggressive the temperature is maintained. On most devices if you set the wattage too high it causes the vape to not be as smooth.

Ex. Push the accelerator down 20% on a car and it takes 60 seconds to reach 55 mph. Press the accelerator down 90% and it only takes 8 seconds to reach 55 mph. 55 mph is the temperature and 20% is wattage.

Both methods get you to 55, which will be the smoother ride..

 

[fq06]

An extreme example of why watts or joules in temp mode matter... if you only press down 5% on your Prius throttle (say 5 watts) you will only reach 5 mph (say 200°) no matter how long you give it... you wanted to drive 55 (475°) right?
You need enough throttle to get to 55 in the first place. You can wish your car to 55 all you want but it aint gonna happen with a 5% throttle push just like your 0.25 coil won't get to your set temp of 475° if you only set it to 5 watts or joules.

Reason for Prius is a Ferrari probably would hit 55 @ 5% throttle