Next Generation MTL tanks Part 2

[f1r3b1rd]

Ok, I have a big list of rebuildable tanks and one catches my attention. It's a bigger bore than the original Eleaf Lemo but I'm looking for an opinion on the Lemo 2. It's half the price of the original too at $17 from MyVape. Thanks in advance.
http://www.myvape.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=197_277&products_id=2893

I had a lemo2 and absolutely hated it...
The space between the bell and the tank was so tight that I had to drill holes in bell for it to wick. The lack or space would choke off th juice flow.
The airflow was too loose for mtl and to tight for direct lung.
A good alternative to that one would be the serpent mini (not the smm) or the cthulu mtl.

BAM crew

 

[ToolmanTexas]

Same for lemo 2 for me

 

[f1r3b1rd]

This conversation made me break out the kf4

The tagline should have been:
'its fidgity but it's good'

BAM crew

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

So I'm looking at :
Serpent mini
Doggy Style
Ithaka
all from 3fvapes
Any Input before I pull the trigger?
and suggestions on wire and cotton?

 

[ToolmanTexas]

So I'm looking at :
Serpent mini
Doggy Style
Ithaka
all from 3fvapes
Any Input before I pull the trigger?
and suggestions on wire and cotton?

SXK Doggy Style, without a doubt has my vote, 28 AWG kanthal and cotton or rayon and you have a great setup.

Skip the Ithaka IMO, its really geared towards silica builds and the ceramic cup, once broke, hard to find a replacement.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

So I'm looking at :
Serpent mini
Doggy Style
Ithaka
all from 3fvapes
Any Input before I pull the trigger?
and suggestions on wire and cotton?

I would rule out the ithaka right away. It's a pain in left dimple of my right buttcheak to build on.

The doggy style and the serpent mini would be a tossup for me. If memory serves the doggy style is more suited to a tighter draw than the Serpent mini.
The serpent mini will do a nice restrictive lung hit, if you want. If that's not of any interest for you, do it doggy style.

BAM crew

 

[inspects]

I had a lemo2 and absolutely hated it...
The space between the bell and the tank was so tight that I had to drill holes in bell for it to wick. The lack or space would choke off th juice flow.
The airflow was too loose for mtl and to tight for direct lung.
A good alternative to that one would be the serpent mini (not the smm) or the cthulu mtl.

BAM crew

OMG, I too remember struggling with the wicking in those damn Lemo attys..POOR design, with capital letters indeed.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

Yeah, the SXK Doggy is mos def a MTL with a 1.6mm hole on deck. The SJMY Doggy is a RDL with a 2.3mm hole on the deck.

 

[Nailz]

Just got the serpent mini last week, doggystyle is much better for MTL and the serpent mini you have to refill ever 5 minutes, maybe not that much, but it is a very small tank though.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

OMG, I too remember struggling with the wicking in those damn Lemo attys..POOR design, with capital letters indeed.

I finally found a use for it as my mechmod polishing mount.


BAM crew

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

I would rule out the ithaka right away. It's a pain in left dimple of my right buttcheak to build on.

The doggy style and the serpent mini would be a tossup for me. If memory serves the doggy style is more suited to a tighter draw than the Serpent mini.
The serpent mini will do a nice restrictive lung hit, if you want. If that's not of any interest for you, do it doggy style.

BAM crew

Hahaha! I'll do a rodeo vape!
I'll have to post on the humor thread all about how to take doggy style into rodeo style!
Good deal on the input, I'll make my slow boat purchase from Red China. Thanks!

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

Just got the serpent mini last week, doggystyle is much better for MTL and the serpent mini you have to refill ever 5 minutes, maybe not that much, but it is a very small tank though.

maybe I'll use my machinist skill to drill and tap a gravity feed auxiliary tank!
I did see a Kayfun 3 clone for $20 too.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

maybe I'll use my machinist skill to drill and tap a gravity feed auxiliary tank!
I did see a Kayfun 3 clone for $20 too.

If you go KF go with the lite and I suggest this one:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/4417100

Then you can nano it out with these:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/2197501
https://www.fasttech.com/p/3743901

Kinda like this:

 

[SkoldVape]

If you go KF go with the lite and I suggest this one:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/4417100

Then you can nano it out with these:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/2197501
https://www.fasttech.com/p/3743901

Kinda like this:
View attachment 86669

+1 for Kayfun lite, to me it's the most pure MTL out of all the kayfuns but since falling in love with my Nautilus 2 I don't use it much. Gonna pick up some more nautilus 2s an quite possibly another tarot nano as I'm loving this setup

 

[Nailz]

Just got the skyline from @ToolmanTexas

Really good MTL RTA, can really tighten up the airflow with the air disks, really good flavor, and like can chain vape and not get hot at all, early days with it, but if keeps performing this good, can see some more of these coming my way

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

If you go KF go with the lite and I suggest this one:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/4417100

Then you can nano it out with these:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/2197501
https://www.fasttech.com/p/3743901

Kinda like this:
View attachment 86669

That's so little, lol it's the love child of a subvod and an Alien.
AMAZINGLY, my Kanger Top Box hardly ways more than the two batteries. They will be very nice with a couple serpents or kayfuns and some good coils.

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

Just got the skyline from @ToolmanTexas

Really good MTL RTA, can really tighten up the airflow with the air disks, really good flavor, and like can chain vape and not get hot at all, early days with it, but if keeps performing this good, can see some more of these coming my way

I was wondering about that one too. Good to add on my list.

 

[SkoldVape]

That's so little, lol it's the love child of a subvod and an Alien.
AMAZINGLY, my Kanger Top Box hardly ways more than the two batteries. They will be very nice with a couple serpents or kayfuns and some good coils.

It's the best rta imo that kanger was my first mod with external batteries *high five*

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

If you go KF go with the lite and I suggest this one:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/4417100

Then you can nano it out with these:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/2197501
https://www.fasttech.com/p/3743901

Kinda like this:
View attachment 86669

I joined the KF and MTL RBA club with this V2 LITE model from 3F and also a Serpent mini! some time in august I presume.

 

[SkoldVape]

Your gonna love them

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I joined the KF and MTL RBA club with this V2 LITE model from 3F and also a Serpent mini! some time in august I presume.

You're going to really like them!!!
Congratulations!!!
I usually get 3f stuff in 10-12 days

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

I also picked up various kanger style 34 ga. to 30 ga. single wrapped 50 count boxes of pre-made coils from Fastech. Instead of $1.50 ea its $.10 ea for coils! 350 should do me for a while.

 

[Huckleberried]

Damn, that's a buncha coils! Should be good for a bit, lol.

 

[ToolmanTexas]

That's so little, lol it's the love child of a subvod and an Alien.
AMAZINGLY, my Kanger Top Box hardly ways more than the two batteries. They will be very nice with a couple serpents or kayfuns and some good coils.

My tiny mods and RTAs... Doggystyle SXK, KFL+ and Erl nano on COV mini and mega volts.

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

I ordered a Alien Baby from Eight Vapes for a song and a dance to run my rbas and the 4 AeroTanks I stole from Fluid Vapes for 5 bucks ea. The FDA can bite me now. Thanks for all the direction my friends!

 

[ToolmanTexas]

I ordered a Alien Baby from Eight Vapes for a song and a dance to run my rbas and the 4 AeroTanks I stole from Fluid Vapes for 5 bucks ea. The FDA can bite me now. Thanks for all the direction my friends!

Lots of peeps rebuild those Kanger coils so you may do a google on that to watch some vids, in case you want to rebuild those coils instead of buying new ones.

 

[PaulS]

Still think the Kabuki is the best MTL tank out there.

 

[Kinkyvapurrr]

I also picked up various kanger style 34 ga. to 30 ga. single wrapped 50 count boxes of pre-made coils from Fastech. Instead of $1.50 ea its $.10 ea for coils! 350 should do me for a while.

I got some from Fast Tech too and the ones I got kinda suck I hope u got better ones. I saw some I think I would've bought instead after I already have these but I got a box w 15 different kinds and 6 ea of those and I think if I buy premade coils from now on they'll be handmade or batter researched on my part, haaa! Good for you though, I luv Fast Tech!

 

[SkoldVape]

Still think the Kabuki is the best MTL tank out there.

I agree use it so much that my rta's are gathering dust. My arthritic nerves aren't the best for building!

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

What do you all think of the Innokin T22/18 Prism Tanks? My daughter is old school and wants a replacement for her old protanks. She gave them away so I'm getting her setup with new gear to get off anal-ogs

 

[ToolmanTexas]

I would go w Nautilus 2 all day over innokin T18, etc.

Can adjust the airflow in N2, can't on T18 and I personally prefer Nautilus coil.

 

[SkoldVape]

I would go w Nautilus 2 all day over innokin T18, etc.

Can adjust the airflow in N2, can't on T18 and I personally prefer Nautilus coil.

I have to agree, they are the best flavour for a factory coil. If I'm not building I'm using a nautilus mini or nautilus 2

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

How's the GeniTank stack up in the older mtl tanks? I really liked my old Aerotank before it was lost. I'm looking for that type on the cheap like the old tanks I had.

On a side note I really love the wet juicy flavor from my TFV4 at 50 watts. Will the Kayfun rta I ordered be able to do that trick or is that just a subohm trait that I'll only get with DL vaping?

 

[SkoldVape]

How's the GeniTank stack up in the older mtl tanks? I really liked my old Aerotank before it was lost. I'm looking for that type on the cheap like the old tanks I had.

On a side note I really love the wet juicy flavor from my TFV4 at 50 watts. Will the Kayfun rta I ordered be able to do that trick or is that just a subohm trait that I'll only get with DL vaping?

The Kayfun and th TFV4 are just too different to compare!

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

six weeks later, slow boat from China is my Serpent Mini with 10 wraps of 28ga SS316L and its a big cloud of MTL at 20 watts 1.2 ohms.
My Twinkie diy flavor is a bit off but that should improve with break in right? Thanks for all the help friends! The kayfun 2 is next.

 

[SkoldVape]

six weeks later, slow boat from China is my Serpent Mini with 10 wraps of 28ga SS316L and its a big cloud of MTL at 20 watts 1.2 ohms.
My Twinkie diy flavor is a bit off but that should improve with break in right? Thanks for all the help friends! The kayfun 2 is next.

Enjoy after a serpent mini myself & the kayfuns are hard to beat!

 

[Craig Mad Bricky]

Enjoy after a serpent mini myself & the kayfuns are hard to beat!

The only problem Im having at 15 watts on 1.2 ohms 316L SS is the massive consumption of juice. It's also only allowed to do temp control on my baby Alien AL85 in Titanium TC. Any ideas to get big cloud and taste on another build?

 

[David Wolf]

I have a number of KF clones V2+, V3's, and a V5, recently loaded up on tanks that take Ego One CLR rebuildable coils including Ego One V2, Mega's, and Amor tanks. Yesterday I got an SXK Doggy Styled 2K16 and I'm in MTL heaven with that little beauty! Unscrewing the base is a little fiddly since the air flow ring goes all the way around, but the awesome flavor and super easy to build and wick, tight adjustable draw, makes it a KF killer for me! Vaped a full tank and outside with it in hot weather, no leaks!

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I have A number of KF clones V2+, V3s, and a V5, recently loaded up on tanks that take Ego One CLR rebuildable coils including Ego One V2, Mega's, and Amor tanks. Yesterday I got an SXK Doggy Styled 2K16 and I'm in MTL heaven with that little beauty! Unscrewing the base is a little fiddly since the air flow ring goes all the way around, but the awesome flavor and super easy to build and wick makes it a KF killer for me! Vaped a full tank and outside with it in hot weather, no leaks!

Have some pics and a link? Always open to a new mtl tank

BAM crew

 

[David Wolf]

Have some pics and a link? Always open to a new mtl tank

BAM crew

Sure do firebird, here ya go:
SXK Doggy Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer, used discount code MAP to get it for only$10.39:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10028365/6353800-sxk-doggy-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer

Here it is sitting on my brushed gunmetal Pico 75W, only 105mm tall to the tip of the SXK Doggy Style:

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Sure do firebird, here ya go:
SXK Doggy Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer, used discount code MAP to get it for only$10.39:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10028365/6353800-sxk-doggy-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer

Here it is sitting on my brushed gunmetal Pico 75W, only 105mm tall to the tip of the SXK Doggy Style:

Nice!!! I'm have to get one and check it out!
Thank you!

BAM crew

 

[SkoldVape]

The only problem Im having at 15 watts on 1.2 ohms 316L SS is the massive consumption of juice. It's also only allowed to do temp control on my baby Alien AL85 in Titanium TC. Any ideas to get big cloud and taste on another build?

I run ss on my pico & it works just fine, will your AL85 not work with other kinds of ss other than 316L??

 

[SkoldVape]

Sure do firebird, here ya go:
SXK Doggy Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer, used discount code MAP to get it for only$10.39:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10028365/6353800-sxk-doggy-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer

Here it is sitting on my brushed gunmetal Pico 75W, only 105mm tall to the tip of the SXK Doggy Style:

Hope you are liking that setup here is my pico

 

[SkoldVape]

I'm very tempted by that Doggy Style, alot of people swear by this RTA

 

[Bigbob2322]

I'm very tempted by that Doggy Style, alot of people swear by this RTA

The SXK Doggy style has become my favorite tank.

 

[SkoldVape]

The SXK Doggy style has become my favorite tank.

It's at a price I can't say no too, I hear it's easy to build & it has very good reviews for a good MTL tank.
I don't wanna the break the bank & I love the look of it too.

 

[David Wolf]

It's at a price I can't say no too, I hear it's easy to build & it has very good reviews for a good MTL tank.
I don't wanna the break the bank & I love the look of it too.

Fasttech has several doggystyle clone tanks, the SXK has a smaller bore and tighter draw, some describe the SMJY as having a larger bore best for a restricted DL hit, I only have the SXK so can't personally confirm, I went for the SXK for the tighter draw (its adjustable from a tight draw to a loose draw).
https://www.fasttech.com/search?doggy style

The SMJY is available in either a PC tank or acrylic tank, both appear to be frosted. The SXK has the clear tank, listed as PC. I prefer glass, but the doggy style design has threads on the tank so that wouldn't work, I like the clear tank never have been a big fan of frosted though I have several. I've done some research, and I wounder if the "tank cracking" by some liquids is more myth than fact, otherwise I would hear of people having it happen a lot, and I don't. One site stated those PC tanks with the rare cracking was more of a result of heat rather than acidic juices. I don't have the final word on this though, I will let my experience show me and if anyone else has experiience with PC tank cracking, let me know. And yes, I've seen those sites listing juices that crack PC tanks, and the disclaimer these weren't confirmed, just more acidic juices, lol.

 

[Nailz]

Black licorice will crack a PC tank pretty quickly, learnt years ago, only use black licorice in glass tanks, also from experience, banana juice years ago cracked my tank, and my wife's cinnamon juices would crack tanks too, I don't think you see as much nowadays, as more tanks are made with glass compared to 4-5 years ago.

I agree with others here, the doggy style tank is a awesome MTL tank, if they had made filling easier, be in my rotation more, but it is a at home tank only, as normally have to use a tool to get it apart, or the airflow ring just keeps spinning and won't come apart.

 

[SkoldVape]

Fasttech has several doggystyle clone tanks, the SXK has a smaller bore and tighter draw, some describe the SMJY as having a larger bore best for a restricted DL hit, I only have the SXK so can't personally confirm, I went for the SXK for the tighter draw (its adjustable from a tight draw to a loose draw).
https://www.fasttech.com/search?doggy style

The SMJY is available in either a PC tank or acrylic tank, both appear to be frosted. The SXK has the clear tank, listed as PC. I prefer glass, but the doggy style design has threads on the tank so that wouldn't work, I like the clear tank never have been a big fan of frosted though I have several. I've done some research, and I wounder if the "tank cracking" by some liquids is more myth than fact, otherwise I would hear of people having it happen a lot, and I don't. One site stated those PC tanks with the rare cracking was more of a result of heat rather than acidic juices. I don't have the final word on this though, I will let my experience show me and if anyone else has experiience with PC tank cracking, let me know. And yes, I've seen those sites listing juices that crack PC tanks, and the disclaimer these weren't confirmed, just more acidic juices, lol.

I use RTA'S for MTL so I think the SXK will suite my needs more. Thanks for the info dude & I prefer glass myself. I've owned PC tanks that have cracked when using cinnamon

 

[SkoldVape]

Black licorice will crack a PC tank pretty quickly, learnt years ago, only use black licorice in glass tanks, also from experience, banana juice years ago cracked my tank, and my wife's cinnamon juices would crack tanks too, I don't think you see as much nowadays, as more tanks are made with glass compared to 4-5 years ago.

I agree with others here, the doggy style tank is a awesome MTL tank, if they had made filling easier, be in my rotation more, but it is a at home tank only, as normally have to use a tool to get it apart, or the airflow ring just keeps spinning and won't come apart.

I wanted to go with a kabuki but I tried my mates & it felt really solid but did not vape any better than the nautilus 2.
Sure the build is fantastic but I didn't find the tank to be any better. So I did not justify spending £80.00 on one.
My Kayfun lite an provaris got stole when a house I used to live in got robbed so I just want a cheap RTA to go on top of my provari P3 I got on ebay recently.
It's sitting there not doing anything!