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boostedyota

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Ok currently running the tesla two sub mod and twisted messes rda or tfv4 mini tank. Im trying to figure out what mod would be next step up from the tesla two. Never used temp control or anything else so wouldnt know what to do unless someone gives me advice on it. All input greatly appreciated
 

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I'm a little confused, do you want temp control? I'm not sure I'd call it a step up unless you like it...
 

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I just snagged a IPV 3Li VR and love it. Built like a tank and works like a champ. I topped it with a Uwell Crown and it's a match made in Heaven.
 

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Im open to a temp control mod but have no idea what i would be doing with one. Im gonna keep my twisted messes rda and tfv4 mini tank. Just want something that will handle more and maybe read lower ohm levels. The tesla two handles down to .2 and my rda is right above it right now. I dont think ill run that low but kinda like insurance, want it to be able to read that low even if i dont need it to.
 

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I just snagged a IPV 3Li VR and love it. Built like a tank and works like a champ. I topped it with a Uwell Crown and it's a match made in Heaven.
Alright cool. Ill look into that mod and research it a little bit
 

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Latest and greatest are the DNA200 mods. You have the ability to tweak the mod by having your own profiles, by utilizing a program running on your computer. As far as I know, currently there's a Winows version of this program only. However, most of these mods use LiPo batteries and don't have enough capacity (just 900 mAh). Better mods have 1000 mAh and higher LiPo packs. There's currently just one DNA200 mod utilizing three 18650 batteries, which makes it kind of heavy. That's the advantage of LiPo packs, they weigh less. In addition, they charge quicker.
 

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It's not "just 900 mah". It's 3x 900 mah cells in series. That's 2700 mah. And with I her voltage, and always stepping it down instead of boosting it's a bit more efficient. All my mods were single 18650. I'm used to that. My Vapor Shark lasts a bit longer than my 3000 mah LGs.
 

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It's not "just 900 mah". It's 3x 900 mah cells in series. That's 2700 mah. And with I her voltage, and always stepping it down instead of boosting it's a bit more efficient. All my mods were single 18650. I'm used to that. My Vapor Shark lasts a bit longer than my 3000 mah LGs.
Hey Powerman, how has the battery life been on your VS? What are you running on top and how do you like that set up? Trying to deceide on weather to get the VS or Lavabox...
 

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Sorry I am a sigelei fan boy 100% of the way.
For powa you really cannot go wrong.
 

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Hey Powerman, how has the battery life been on your VS? What are you running on top and how do you like that set up? Trying to deceide on weather to get the VS or Lavabox...
Ya, battery life is in serious need of a standard. I mean batteries do have standards... mah, watt hours, but vapers don't. Me saying a battery lasts me half a day is meaningless.

I use Crown 0.25 coils. 120w preheat, 450-500F. My VS will usually last me 2 solid tanks. And it isn't toast. About a third or quarter charge left. That's just when I will grab my VT200 and put the VS on the charger. The VT200 easily lasts me the rest of the day.

So 2 DNA 200 boxes easily lasts me all day. Just like 2 single 18650s lasted me the day. I average 7-8 MLS a day. But like today, not vaping much... Lasted all day.

Honestly, I can't imagine liking the lava box more. Nothing wrong with it, but for the very same thing, why not get the smaller one? I really like the VS. The VT200 is a great DNA box. Advertised as 1300 mah... But NOBODY is getting that. It's measuring around 1000-1050 mah on analyzers. Still a great box, but the VS is the one I grab. But I will say, the screen on the bottom is just stupid. :)
 

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For the OP... There is no step "up". If you like what you have keep running it. When I started vaping which wasn't that long ago, I only wanted nic and no clouds. So I didn't care about a ton of vapor. The only problem is, high nic concentration sucks, and I don't care for PG.

So I started naturally moving to lower nic and higher VG. So more vapor. Kanger tanks. Had unregulated briefly, then to regulated. Then the Kanger just wasn't cutting it. Went looking, got a Crown and a D2, then another Crown, then DNA 200... But I'm also a gear whore.

Now I'm making clouds sort of, but the vapor is just so darn good I don't care. Such good flavor, all I want without burnt dry hits or any nonsense.

So it just depends what you want. If you don't want more, don't get more. If your setup is good for you at 20watts, you don't need 120w. But the new tanks are running big low resistance coils and plenty of air for them. They need more power. Any of the new 75-80w boxes is plenty for most. I'll never run 200w on my DNA. Ever. But 80-120w... Sure.

Temp control isn't a trick. Probably not long from now it will dominate. Doesn't matter what you like... Just say 50w. Less isn't enough, more is too hot. But on big sub ohm coils it still takes a while to warm up... Say 5 seconds. But at 10 seconds now it's getting hot.

So TC will hit the coil hard until it gets to temp limit. Depending, it might hit the coil with 75w for 2-3 seconds, but then temp limit kicks in because you don't like it hotter than that. And when you are pulling, and it's up to temp, you are only using 25w. It's just a much more smoother consistent vape from start to finish. It's really nice, and it will continue to be refined and get better. But right now, it's really good. Do you need it... Well no. But we didn't used to need smart phones... But they are really nice to have.
 

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Four things you may never need but always wish you had more of when you want and or need them.
Watts,
Money,
Condoms,
fire power.

Watts vs. tc is like 0-60 and quarter mile drag racing.
Watts will get you there but tc will get you there faster... like putting a street car against a Pro fuel funny car.
 

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Just want something that will handle more and maybe read lower ohm levels. The tesla two handles down to .2 and my rda is right above it right now. I dont think ill run that low but kinda like insurance, want it to be able to read that low even if i dont need it to.

A mod that reads ohms will read any build no matter how low. What it will fire is dependent on what the chip is designed to handle. Reading ohms and firing a certain resistance are two completely different things.
 

PaulS

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I think I must be the only guy not in love with TC. I much prefer my RTAs and RBAs with regular kanthal. I also drip on all my regulated mods. Now as for ramp up time. I vape usually between 35 - 45 watts. But I like a DNA200 or a Snow Wolf because they hit quick and accurately and the battery life is great. I don't buy the BS that you will never use 200 watts so why have it. Yesterday I did make a mistake. I accidentally hit the plus button and took a hit at max watts on my RBA. But the coil did not burn out and the cotton was fine ( was only like a second).

That said to each his own and as long as we are vaoping we are not smoking.
 

cascadian

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It's not "just 900 mah". It's 3x 900 mah cells in series. That's 2700 mah.
No it is just 900 mah. The LiPo pack is a 3S configuration. Series battery configurations sum the voltage not the current. A parallel battery configuration would sum the current and provide 2700 mah, but not provide the voltage the DNA200 needs. It is a technicality as it has the same effect on Watt hours available but it is only a 900 mah battery pack.
 
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Powerman

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No it is just 900 mah. The LiPo pack is a 3S configuration. Series battery configurations sum the voltage not the current. A parallel battery configuration would some the current and provide 2700 mah, but not provide the voltage the DNA200 needs. It is a technicality as it has the same effect on Watt hours available but it is only a 900 mah battery pack.
Thanks. I didn't think of it like that. But if we had a triple 18650 mod with 2500 mah batteries, we would not say it was 2500 mah mod. Bottom line is it has 3 / 900 mah cells. Its not just a 900 mah mod. Many people that do not understand think it only has 900 mah total. That's fine if current isn't summed, but it isn't just 900 mah.

To be more accurate though, I guess we are just going to have to get used to watt hours. My Vapor Shark has 10 watt hours, my single LG HG2 has 10.8.
 

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