Noob to RTA, a little confusion

[mikeyboy74]

Well, tired of burning out Crown and Arctic prebuild coils, I stumbled across a local who will build for the Aromamizer, Billow, Talos, Orchid, and a couple other. This raises some questions.

First, my work and driving lifestyle is not gonna make dripping realistic. Will I need to push the drip tip to juice up some or all of these? How often? Are the tips usually 510 and interchangeable? Not looking to stray that far from tank simplicity but want better flavor and clouds without say the TFV4 cost of operation.

Which have easy juice filling? Can be bottom but dont want a Herk Plus or Starre juice control issues.

Which builds can easily be rewicked, and how long is the wire good for? I am not a temp control fan. Does SS heat too fast? I am thinking kanthal but just a guess.

What else is different vs tank vape? How high can I go with VG as I dont like health effects of PG, and how should that change the build?

Should I try to find a deck for my original Herakles, the one tank I really like..... or just continue to enjoy it as is?

If it matters, making a lot of progress but still trying to quit analogs completely. Down to 3-5 per day. Vaping with 3 nic. Unfortunately, I just like the taste of real tobacco, but not e liquid tobacco flavor.

Thanks much,
Mike

 

[Powerman]

Why are you burning out Crown coils?

 

[mikeyboy74]

Have to assume my liking for sweeter juices with some color is burning the Crown coils but could also my vaping style.

Just cant do the berry, fruit, yogurt and cereal liquids.

I primed the last .25 SS for 4 days. It is still alive after a week but barely. If I take a few hits at about 72w, it is on the edge of burnt, so I have to back off and slow down.

Herakles and Atlantis 2 better, though Atlantis flavor sort of muted. Arctic is worse. Kanger sub mini with 0.5 I can push to no end without a problem, but it has its limitations. So, I alternate between Herakles and Kanger.

 

[CgS_Drone]

Why aren't you using the rebuildable deck on the Crown?

 

[Powerman]

OK.... ya, no need to prime a coil for 4 days. More like 4 minutes. And if the juice you like is killing coils, I'm not sure how much better any others is going to be. Not that you have to use the Crown and think it's the best ever, but it is really good. Seems the Crius and Aromizer gets good reviews. But I can't build my Crius to out do the Crown. The Crown can put it out. In power, I like 75w on the .25 Crown coils. Some can do 100-120 w. On my Crius I am using 24g at .17 ohms and I'm at 60w. Maybe I tad more, but I know I'm close to the end.

Now where you really lose me is a Kanger sub tank mini. That isn't a power tank. Burnt cotton for me on anything over 15-20w. Every single time. The Crown is a far far better tank. I'm not getting that one.

The Crown is one of the most trouble free pre made coils out that can do real power. The TFV4 is another one, but coils are a bit more and not as plentiful some say. You say you found a builder.... so your plan is to buy a RTA to pay someone to build coils? I don't really see how that would be cheaper than you building or TFV4 coils.

 

[mikeyboy74]

Kanger is just the daily driver getting use at work. Herakles or Crown mostly at home.

I guess my question then becomes, short of RDA, is RTA with Aromamizer, Billow, Talos, etc a performance upgrade vs the typical sub ohm tank or just a hobby, which is fine too. Not that a TFV4 is in any way typical.

Then decision becomes RTA vs a TFV4 or similar. I guess everyone has different tastes and there is no holy grail. Not to mention TFV4 as a platform for many different coils and outcomes.

As for not building Crown RBA, I have seen very mixed reviews on forums such as this and ECF. Not trying to be a judge for anyone else, so if the Crown is working for others as a tank or RBA, then great.

Maybe I went about this question the wrong way after finding out that there were now prebuilt coils for the Aromamizer..... 0.3 ohm 15-50w.

 

[JERUS]

The nice thing about TFv4 is it's basically an RTA with interchangable coils, in that you can set up your coil before you need it. I use a modified RBA deck, I drilled out larger holes and extra juice flow on the single RBA. I now have 2 set up that way. I can wick one and have it ready while I use the other, prime the second and plug it in when the first goes bad, swap then rebuild the bad one when I have time and just rotate. That's the plus of the TFv4, convenience is certainly there.

I don't have any other pure RTAs though to compare, but I surely enjoy my TFv4 for that convenience. It supplies plenty of clouds (especially with my modified RBAs, though the dual coil standard is great as well) and the flavor is solid (better than the Atlantis's I used before, though again I don't have a ton to compare it to).

As was said before, if you do go RTA, learn to build. It's really not hard. Grab some 24-26g Kanthal or SS, twist it up (easy and I'd be happy to tell you how if you want) and then wrap it and insert. I do find twisted much better than strait wire, it's a bit cooler so less burning issues I've found. Plenty here willing to help and in the long run you'll save money. If you do go TFv4 you should be interested in the rebuildables as the premade coils while solid simply aren't worth the money IMO, you'd be better off with the crown and just accepting the cost of using it.

 

[CgS_Drone]

As for not building Crown RBA, I have seen very mixed reviews on forums such as this and ECF. Not trying to be a judge for anyone else, so if the Crown is working for others as a tank or RBA, then great.

No problem I was just curious, everyone is different and I don't have a Crown in my possession (just ordered one today) I do have the Crius and while it does a great vape there are a few things with it that I have issue's with but I am not sure after seeing and reading so many reviews on different tanks that there is a perfect one out there yet. LOL.

I do plan to pick up the Serpent and tfv4 also and find which ever one I prefer or just stick one on each mod.

 

[AmandaD]

The crown rba is forgettable! I get about 60 mls out of the 0.25 coils though which is fine for
me!


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[PaulS]

RTAs are a whole different ball park. The flavor on an RTA can certainly match a Crown. I have an aromamizer built at .09 - yes you read that correctly. I can vape it anywhere from 60 - 100 watts comfortably. Easy to build on and very easy to wick. The billow 2 is also quite nice and a good deck to build on. However, if I was going to purchase a new RTA it would be the OBS Crius. I have a Bellus and its nice but it is difficult to wick and to build on.

Bear in mind the list of RTAs you posted are all bottom fill. The Crius and Bellus are top fill. Bellus has the best flavor of any tank i have ever used. It is equal to a Goblin mini. So if I was just getting my first RTA I would go OBS Crius. If I wanted a RTA that I could use ready made coils in as well it would be the Aromamizer (now has coils) or the Zephyrus 2 - another excellent choice.

 

[Powerman]

Its' still sort of tight to build coils. Sub ohm tanks have come a long way. They are cloud chuckers and have great flavor. I've never dripped, but I will take the work of others that the gap between tanks and drippers are small. So now RTA. RBAs for sub ohm tanks are just too small to match what tanks are doing. So you need a decent sized deck. The velocity deck on the Crius is very easy to work on and is really easy to wick right. So that is head and shoulders above a tiny RBA.... now the only thing needed is the Crius needs a bigger deck.

I don't care about juice control, but I do care about closing juice holes. Top fill, velocity deck, great air flow and control... awesome tank... that just needs the deck to be a couple MM bigger. A dual 9 half wrap 24g at 2.5 comes in at .17 ohm. It is tricky fitting that in. The end wraps are right at the edge. I already shorted one coil. No carnage, just a ruined coil. So 8 wraps... but that is not quite what I can get out of the Crown. No big deal, still great.... just saying the Crown and the TFV4 is kinda where it is at these days and I'm used to my Crown. If the tank was a couple mm wider, that would not be a big deal. It would be perfect.

 

[mad_blaster]

I just picked up a monster v3 by 528 custom. I have been vaping it all day and there is no comparison when it comes to the kanger and it. It is bottom fill though and can be a hassle without a unicorn bottle. I don't really subohm, the current coil is 6 wraps of 28 kanthal and its resistance reads 1.3ohm. The flavor out of it is ridiculous, so I assume if you subohmed it, it may get better. The deck is not much bigger than the RBA on the kanger though and you have to be wary of your chimney clearance. That being said after today it's becoming my favorite tank. I would like to check out the bellus and if I ever get the cheese together the squape I was fingering in the shop yesterday would be sweet too. Good luck finding a tank you like.