P Busardo Issues Warning About Cloupor Mini

[Milko Medero]

So I saw this posted on a FB group....



In return I asked....


The reply....


My reply....


Them


Me



I still personally will not buy a Cloupor product. And will not spread any word until they tell is the "why's" and the "what we did's" Especially going on one persons comment.

Its about the MONEY ! You could win a 1000000000000 judgement for that mod doing you wrong . You wont see a dime . Its an oversea company ( China ). Like I said Hana and Evolv are here in IL and OH . I would pay the 250 for a USA mod and know that they put out good SH*T. I live in Chicago a pack of smokes costs me 12.00 with Tax. So 250.00 for a mod that works ain't sh*t.. 90 days no smoking I'm ahead of the game . I smoked a packs a day for 20 years. I smoke 0 pack now . I spend the 250.00 the HANA or the real VF . They saved my life from smoking .

 

[wally]

Hmm.. I dont understand the 'no warranty' thing as the real ones come with a 6 month warranty (I do believe), if it really did just come off. Those things are held on with 2 screws that are fairly tight as well as the fit being close to a press fit. If it is a real one, then contact eLeaf and get it exchanged.

It must of not had the screws in it cause mine might come apart if I dropped it out of a moving car because these are not built cheap. Anodized aluminum with side packs screwed together this is the way we get expensive equipment at work.

 

[wally]

Heres a pic of the V2 Cloupor guts. Hot glue everywhere, crooked 510 pin, and wattage control is janky, doesn't vape like what the displayed power says its at.

Once again look at this piece of crap... If I had one I could never trust it just by the way the wiring is alone.

 

[Zamazam]

So I saw this posted on a FB group....



In return I asked....


The reply....


My reply....


Them


Me



I still personally will not buy a Cloupor product. And will not spread any word until they tell is the "why's" and the "what we did's" Especially going on one persons comment.

A local B&M sold about 200 Cloupor Mini's and had 11 come back with melting/shorting damage. To the B&M owners credit, he called every single customer that he could locate to offer them their money back. He shipped back 300 of the units to Cloupor, un-opened supposedly for a chip update. The owner told me that after this fiasco, he won't sell Cloupor products ever again. He pointed out that if a unit shorted out and caused damage to property or physically harmed the customers, his ass would be on the line in court.

 

[wally]

A local B&M sold about 200 Cloupor Mini's and had 11 come back with melting/shorting damage. To the B&M owners credit, he called every single customer that he could locate to offer them their money back. He shipped back 300 of the units to Cloupor, un-opened supposedly for a chip update. The owner told me that after this fiasco, he won't sell Cloupor products ever again. He pointed out that if a unit shorted out and caused damage to property or physically harmed the customers, his ass would be on the line in court.

You know cloupor could fix the problem but with the way that wiring is I would never ever have one even if someone tried to give it to me that is very poor quality and workmanship. Just on the way they are wired I would be very nervous all the time I could not sleep at night knowing it was in my house. And it would be against me to pull the battery out every time I laid it down.

 

[Garemlin]

A local B&M sold about 200 Cloupor Mini's and had 11 come back with melting/shorting damage. To the B&M owners credit, he called every single customer that he could locate to offer them their money back. He shipped back 300 of the units to Cloupor, un-opened supposedly for a chip update. The owner told me that after this fiasco, he won't sell Cloupor products ever again. He pointed out that if a unit shorted out and caused damage to property or physically harmed the customers, his ass would be on the line in court.

As I said before. Cloupor reported 40-50. Still way too many. But there are probably many, many more that will not be seen on the internet. That is 11 for one fucking shop alone. Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wally]

As I said before. Cloupor reported 40-50. Still way too many. But there are probably many, many more that will not be seen on the internet. That is 11 for one fucking shop alone. Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea that is what I thought has to be thousands at that % And they are just now getting out in the public.

 

[Zamazam]

As I said before. Cloupor reported 40-50. Still way too many. But there are probably many, many more that will not be seen on the internet. That is 11 for one fucking shop alone. Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea, a 5.5% failure rate for one shop that the customers brought defective mods, no telling how many people just tossed a defective mod and said nothing....

If Cloupor sells 200000 of these units, the failure rate indicated by the B&M would mean 11000 would be defective and a fire hazard. Just not acceptable in any light.

 

[wally]

Yea, a 5.5% failure rate for one shop that the customers brought defective mods, no telling how many people just tossed a defective mod and said nothing....

If Cloupor sells 200000 of these units, the failure rate indicated by the B&M would mean 11000 would be defective and a fire hazard. Just not acceptable in any light.

Even more because a lot of these have not been used much so actually just now starting.

 

[Whiskey]

I guess I am really glad I didn't pull the trigger on this one

 

[freemind]

My wife has one.

NO regrets at this point. Not worried either. I got lucky and got a good device.

Still want a Sig Mini though,

 

[wally]

My wife has one.

NO regrets at this point. Not worried either. I got lucky and got a good device.
Still want a Sig Mini though,

If I were you I would take it apart to look at the wiring then make decision I have seen one friend had and one on internet both were very scary looking. The one he had amost caught the car on fire and it was idle.

 

[freemind]

Not hacking the mod apart. It works without flaw, and has, for two weeks now. Charged several time already, with the USB.

I have said though, not to charge it with USB anymore. Told my wife to just use my Intelli charger.

 

[JediTT]

Since Cloupor released the T5 I've seen nothing but problems with their products. I will NEVER buy another Cloupor product. Their build quality is complete shit and they rush products out. When something melts and nearly kills someone they say sorry but you just bad luck small precentage...

 

[Dissonance]

My friends have had no issues with the the Cloupor mini everything is working good. Many others are also not having problems. Some people are reporting problems and that's too bad. I don't know what to make of it to be honest as I'm not a big fan of their mods. One thing is for certain problems can occur with any device people purchase since there are no absolute guarantees. I just hope that no one gets hurt and that people don't charge near anything that could catch fire. Please be sure to use good batteries, chargers and follow the instruction manual. All you can do is treat your mod with good care and respect the rest is out of your hands. I would personally get the IPV Mini instead and call it a day.

 

[wizzard]

So far mine is vaping like a steam engine and I am not going to take it apart either. If it melts like any other china device can melt then I will deal with it. I got 2 and got them for 25.00 each. So I am not out of a lot if they do go bad. Any 30 watt china device can go bad. You are taking your chances on any device you purchase. For now I am swapping the batteries but I do that on all my devices. There have been reports on the eleaf isticks overheating but they are still selling a ton of them. Problem is you can't remove their batteries. But I have 2 of them as well. My problem is I buy 2 of everything. Bottom line for me is my Cloupor mini is working just like it should.

 

[wally]

So far mine is vaping like a steam engine and I am not going to take it apart either. If it melts like any other china device can melt then I will deal with it. I got 2 and got them for 25.00 each. So I am not out of a lot if they do go bad. Any 30 watt china device can go bad. You are taking your chances on any device you purchase. For now I am swapping the batteries but I do that on all my devices. There have been reports on the eleaf isticks overheating but they are still selling a ton of them. Problem is you can't remove their batteries. But I have 2 of them as well. My problem is I buy 2 of everything. Bottom line for me is my Cloupor mini is working just like it should.

I looked everywhere I could only find two complaints on the istick overheating and after reading them it came to a bad tank and a bad wrap.

 

[Giraut]

Its from china. What did you expect?

That's a complete misconception in this day and age. Good stuff from China is good. The Chinese hardware I own (that I've carefully selected) looks very good inside, and are better put together than certain "authentic" US and Filipino pieces of hardware that I own as well.

Chinese companies are really getting their act together these days. This isn't the 70s anymore: just because one shitty company produces shitty products out of China doesn't mean all of China produces shit. Don't throw out the baby with the bath water...

 

[Robert B]

I seriously doubt Cloupor has sold 100,000 of these units. I would maybe believe 10,000, and that's a stretch.

This is the type of thing that is going to get this industry regulated as soon as somebody's child dies in a house fire caused by this piece of shit.

 

[freemind]

I seriously doubt Cloupor has sold 100,000 of these units. I would maybe believe 10,000, and that's a stretch.

This is the type of thing that is going to get this industry regulated as soon as somebody's child dies in a house fire caused by this piece of shit.

You have no clue why regulation is coming.

It is NOT about "safety"!

It's about MONEY. They don't care about your safety.

 

[wally]

You have no clue why regulation is coming.

It is NOT about "safety"!

It's about MONEY. They don't care about your safety.

They sure will swear it is though this is why for all the fuss the states probably already spending the money.

 

[freemind]

They sure will swear it is though this is why for all the fuss the states probably already spending the money.

Because lawyers and politicians are MASTER liars. They tell you things that hit a nerve and make you side with them. Far too many people eat that up. Far too many are not wise enough to see the truth.

 

[JediTT]

You have no clue why regulation is coming.

It is NOT about "safety"!

It's about MONEY. They don't care about your safety.

Its ABOUT the money but the safety is their ammo...you don't think they'd say its about money do you...

 

[freemind]

Its ABOUT the money but the safety is their ammo...you don't think they'd say its about money do you...

If they said what their REAL intentions were, they'd never get voted into office.

Safety isn't ammo. It's smoke and mirrors. Along the same vein as "We have to pass the bill to know what's in it."

 

[Robert B]

You have no clue why regulation is coming.

It is NOT about "safety"!

It's about MONEY. They don't care about your safety.

Oh I have a big clue. Like others have said, it will be the match that lights the candle, for them to go after your money

 

[MrScaryZ]

I guess I am really glad I didn't pull the trigger on this one

Haha me too


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[KKen]

If something is cheap, sends a current and makes vapor, that's all most people really care about. Mess of wires & hot glue, safety and/or fire hazards didn't seem to make it on the list of importance for many. Same goes with e-juice too, who cares what is in it, let alone how its made as long as its CHEAP. Diacetyl or AP? Don't know what that is, but it really tastes good at 40 watts

 

[Browncoat]

I'm definitely raising my eyebrows at Cloupor's numbers on these reports. 100,000 shipped with 50-ish defects? No bueno. 10,000 shipped with 500 reports seems closer to the truth.

 

[Zamazam]

How about 200 sold locally with 11 doa or melted boxes...

 

[anendeloflorien]

There's too many good devices and solid companies out there that do the right thing for me to ever spend a dime on a Cloupor product after seeing how they've handled this bothe before and after the products were made.

 

[Zamazam]

Cloupor really screwed the pooch big time with this mess. This will be their 3rd failure in a row. The T6 not hitting 100W (40W at best), the T8 not hitting anywhere near 150Watts (closer to 70), and now the fire hazard Mini 30. How does a company stay in business with crap like this?

 

[wally]

Still amazes me about a few that made the purchase that know well of the problem that still stand behind them. They had them only a few days but say they work great with no problems without thinking or worrying about the wiring situation for the future. Kind of like the ones that voted for the administration and after all the scandal's they still stand behind them not worrying about the future consequences. The way I figure it all has to do with wiring.

 

[freemind]

Still amazes me about a few that made the purchase that know well of the problem that still stand behind them. They had them only a few days but say they work great with no problems without thinking or worrying about the wiring situation for the future. Kind of like the ones that voted for the administration and after all the scandal's they still stand behind them not worrying about the future consequences. The way I figure it all has to do with wiring.

OR maybe people are smart enough to realize that every manufacture will have quality hiccups. If YOU truly believed in what you are preaching, you would walk and not drive. Not ONE auto maker has been without issues.

 

[janne303]

OR maybe people are smart enough to realize that every manufacture will have quality hiccups. If YOU truly believed in what you are preaching, you would walk and not drive. Not ONE auto maker has been without issues.

WORD!

 

[wally]

OR maybe people are smart enough to realize that every manufacture will have quality hiccups. If YOU truly believed in what you are preaching, you would walk and not drive. Not ONE auto maker has been without issues.

Cloupor has always had major issues now they are out of excuses. The wiring completely shows me how much they care about you.

 

[Nailz]

OR maybe people are smart enough to realize that every manufacture will have quality hiccups. If YOU truly believed in what you are preaching, you would walk and not drive. Not ONE auto maker has been without issues.

The thing is how a company handles a hiccup, and clouper is not giving a shit about it, that is another big mistake by them.

 

[janne303]

either you buy from them or you dont... Why this sectish thing to try persuade people that all cloupors at shit? I have many friends that like T6 for example.

 

[wally]

either you buy from them or you dont... Why this sectish thing to try persuade people that all cloupors at shit? I have many friends that like T6 for example.

Aaa maybe because it will save lives...

 

[greydawn]

Mine set on fire tonight after 6 days

 

[Whiskey]

Do you have pictures of it?

 

[wally]

Mine set on fire tonight after 6 days

Mine set on fire tonight after 6 days

SOrry to hear about that it seems they have a working life of 6 days, Hope you can get your money back but I would not count on it. I think the B&M stores might as well forget about getting a penny back from them.

 

[Vaperjim]

Mine set on fire tonight after 6 days

That's the second example in two days, Donald Bickers had a meltdown on his. Regardless of a company having a few hiccups. if they won't do right with their errs, they are destined to do it again.


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[Midniteoyl]

OR maybe people are smart enough to realize that every manufacture will have quality hiccups. If YOU truly believed in what you are preaching, you would walk and not drive. Not ONE auto maker has been without issues.

Ya, but if the issue was a fire hazard, it would be immediately recalled.. Not "we only had XX cases, so you are fine' BS..

 

[wally]

Ya, but if the issue was a fire hazard, it would be immediately recalled.. Not "we only had XX cases, so you are fine' BS..

If it is hot enough to melt it is hot enough to catch something on fire.

 

[freemind]

I'm not denying that Cloupor is having issues. I'm not saying I am some fanboy either. I'm not even saying I will buy MORE Cloupor products in the future (because I probably won't).

But what I AM saying is, the Mini is working just fine for me. It sucks others have had issues. I have not.

But it seems some others are implying, I should tear my mod apart or throw it away, for fear it may do something others have experienced. That seems completely unreasonable to me. I am aware of the issues some have had, and I am keeping an eye on it.

 

[wally]

I'm not denying that Cloupor is having issues. I'm not saying I am some fanboy either. I'm not even saying I will buy MORE Cloupor products in the future (because I probably won't).

But what I AM saying is, the Mini is working just fine for me. It sucks others have had issues. I have not.

But it seems some others are implying, I should tear my mod apart or throw it away, for fear it may do something others have experienced. That seems completely unreasonable to me. I am aware of the issues some have had, and I am keeping an eye on it.

I know you spend money for something you really like and the mini's are cool and you prolly would never get your money back on it so if I were you I would be very care full and at night take the battery out to be charged this way you can at least sleep with out worry. I know if it were me I would be very pissed at cloupor for putting you and everyone in this situation.

 

[freemind]

I know you spend money for something you really like and the mini's are cool and you prolly would never get your money back on it so if I were you I would be very care full and at night take the battery out to be charged this way you can at least sleep with out worry. I know if it were me I would be very pissed at cloupor for putting you and everyone in this situation.

Were I to sell it, I am sure I could get most or all my money back. I'd sell it locally, and probably not loose a dime.

As I previously said, I told my wife NOT to use the USB charger anymore. Even though we had no issues, I would prefer her to just use my Intelli charger.

I also wonder, where people are running these mods. My wife uses it at 10 watts and under to run a Kanger Aero V2. If some are maxing them out, it could be the boards can't handle being run at peak power and it is causing issues with the device's board.

 

[moecat]

Still want a Sig Mini though,

Got mine at Www.asmodus.com. Enjoying it so far.

 

[KKen]

 

[wally]

Were I to sell it, I am sure I could get most or all my money back. I'd sell it locally, and probably not loose a dime.

As I previously said, I told my wife NOT to use the USB charger anymore. Even though we had no issues, I would prefer her to just use my Intelli charger.

I also wonder, where people are running these mods. My wife uses it at 10 watts and under to run a Kanger Aero V2. If some are maxing them out, it could be the boards can't handle being run at peak power and it is causing issues with the device's board.

Not sure but a lot of them are burning up sitting idle.