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I Love this picture!!!
.05 Ohm Single CoilI don’t know what the resistance of this coil is but as you’ve seen I’ve recently made some wider low resistance coils and I really enjoy the way they vape to be honest. So I wonder what kind of vape this masterpiece of a coil would give. I can’t imagine it would be bad. I just feel like you gotta be super careful when you tred below .10. Like with the right battery you can vape a .07 on a tube mod but you gotta be really careful. Really careful. It’s not something I do that often but when I do I’m super careful and they’ve been some tremendous vapes. Although, it would almost be a shame to vape the color out of that coil cause anyone who really understands what your doing knows how cool it is. I mean that is a super pitchfork. You might be giving me the guts to eventually try a regular pitchfork.
This isnt something I would vape as it would dry cotton out even if you were dripping juice on the coil while firing it but I have a simple battery guide to super sub ohm vaping.
I tend to vape around .07 (5x28g SS [4 Wraps/3mm ID]) the majority of the time and I use everything from Tubes to Triple Parallel Mods, my builds dont change much regardless. Continuous Discharge is rated by temperature, 80°C to be exact. 80°C is 20° from boiling water, which is too hot to touch. So given this, a cell passes its "safe" usage when it becomes too hot too touch and as long as your cell isnt uncomfortable to touch then you should be within its usage limitations (roughly).
I have never had a cell to get to a point where it was too hot outside of shorts and failures, or going under .04 Ohms on a single cell. Though on paper I have obviously gone way over the "safe" usage of the cell. Parasitic resistance and other factors chip away from those numbers. In real world use you will not get the output that paper shows because of these added real world factors and I think this is why I've never gotten cells past that point where they are uncomfortable to touch. Saying this, its up to the end user to gauge whether he/she feels comfortable enough to try it. You should always be careful but you shouldnt be terrified of it, just understand that it can be dangerous and respect it.
Always use good cells with a Continuous Discharge of 25a+, I prefer Sony VTC5A/VTC4 and LG HB6/HB4's for 18650' and always buy from reputable suppliers like IMRBatteries.com and you shouldnt have much to worry about.
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Also there’s the TCR of the alloy youre vaping. My ss316l fralien pair I’m vaping ohm cold at .11 ohms, but after about one second of power they’re at about .14 ohms and draw less power.
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Made big framed staple tonight. I tried 46g wrap, but I rushed it so the spacing is pretty goofy. It actually vapes pretty good in the death trap.
2x30g SS, 15x.3r SS, 46g KD
4mm id, 4.5 wraps, .154 ohms
2x30g SS, 15x.3r SS, 46g KD
4mm id, 4.5 wraps, .154 ohms
Well got my Pixie in from the last challenge. Threw a 6 wrap 28/38 alien on a 3 mm ID at .32 ohms in it.
I also did 30 inches of a micro clap today. Wanted 4 ft but the core broke This is all I could get out of it
46 over 38 Decore, 8 ply .3, 28g
I also did 30 inches of a micro clap today. Wanted 4 ft but the core broke
This is all I could get out of it46 over 38 Decore, 8 ply .3, 28g
Another big framed staple.
2x30g, 12x.3r, 46g
3.5mm 4.5 wraps .15 ohms
2x30g, 12x.3r, 46g
3.5mm 4.5 wraps .15 ohms
That’s so cool man nice staggering! Is that 26g and .4 ribbon? Or 28g and .3r, or something else? I’ve been really into 30g and .3r, I feel like it helps a ton with ribbon builds when the frames arent bigger than the ribbon width.
Thanks Chris! It’s actually 26g frames and .5 ribbon, 36 staggering, 38 fusing. Honestly the .5 is probably why it wrapped wonky but could you believe... it actually vapes nicely! I like .5 for making Fraliens but I need to buy .4 ribbon for my staggered builds. But I thought it was a cool idea and making the wire was relatively easy. You just basically gotta not make mistakes or it throws the whole thing off so I take my time with it. Really appreciate the compliment! Btw I also love 40g framed staples and what works for me as far as getting it tight is putting the spool on the ground and holding the binding wire at a slight angle backwards just to keep the wrap tight. I also go at a slow/medium pace otherwise if I go to fast I’ll get inconsistencies in the binding. It’s what works for me. I’m sure there are a lot of people that can do it faster than me but I gotta do a couple pairs for a customer/friend so I’ll post that next. Here’s one I did previously with 40g. You can see how tight it ended up. This was a single coil for myself at the time.
That's how I do my 46g claps. Gott be careful though cause it will jump and backwrap super easy. And try this - Drop your spool in a plastic baggie and you can fuse holding the spool. The plastic acts as a lubricant and allows you to hold it tighter, giving you more control over the wire, while not putting to much tension on it.
I love that micro Clapton enigma!!! Was it hard to wrap? I always have a little trouble with wrapping enigmas. It’s hit or miss for me.Well got my Pixie in from the last challenge. Threw a 6 wrap 28/38 alien on a 3 mm ID at .32 ohms in it.
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I also did 30 inches of a micro clap today. Wanted 4 ft but the core broke
46 over 38 Decore, 8 ply .3, 28g
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Yeah I use ziplock bags if I para-clap. Definitely makes it easier. I usually have one spool on one leg and another spool on the other. I can also use the loop method both seem to work equally well for me but you’re %100 right about the baggies they do help.
Hey Meg, you have such a great ability to make beautiful coils do you really prefer the vape of a plain round wire sometimes? I remember having some good vapes when I got my first coil master kit and would make those plain round wire wraps out of 24g. I was so proud when I actually wrapped my first set of coils with the little coil master jig and installed them myself. Then I learned how to use the jig to parallel wrap and I really thought I had it going on hehe
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Thank you sir
I'm not great at decore builds. I can rip a 1/3 alien/interlock but thats about all I can do consistently clean. So I'm not all that happy with the fusing. If your asking about wrapping as in coiling. Not difficult. I've never had a lot of problems wrapping coils regardless of the build. My first staple was .5 and went off without a hicc-up and I was sitting there wandering why all the fuss about wrapping ribbon. I've had the occasional mishap of course. But on the whole Wrapping is straight forward to me. So to answer your question it was not difficult.
Though, I will say my coils are rarely super clean when it comes to the wrap. I haven't perfected wrapping by any means. But getting a decent wrap has always come second nature to me.
I was saying actually hold the spool inside of the baggie. For super fine wire it allows you to fuse like you normally would, if you hold the spool in the first place that is.
Oh I gotchya. Regarding the plastic bag. It's a really good idea I have to make some 40g framed staples for someone I'm gonna give it a try as opposed to just putting the spool on the floor and holding the wire relatively close. Coiling is what I mean by wrapping. I've always kinda sucked at it, I'm a real big fella and have real big hands and I'm a little clumsy, kinda a spaz, and I think I have a tendency to rush cause I get excited but that's something I can at least work on. I'm surprised you say your not good at decore builds everything I have seen from you looks so super clean and you're a really great builder. Like I take a lot of inspiration from your work, You did a micro Clapton Enigma so you can't be that bad.Thank you sir
I'm not great at decore builds. I can rip a 1/3 alien/interlock but thats about all I can do consistently clean. So I'm not all that happy with the fusing. If your asking about wrapping as in coiling. Not difficult. I've never had a lot of problems wrapping coils regardless of the build. My first staple was .5 and went off without a hicc-up and I was sitting there wandering why all the fuss about wrapping ribbon. I've had the occasional mishap of course. But on the whole Wrapping is straight forward to me. So to answer your question it was not difficult.
Though, I will say my coils are rarely super clean when it comes to the wrap. I haven't perfected wrapping by any means. But getting a decent wrap has always come second nature to me.
I was saying actually hold the spool inside of the baggie. For super fine wire it allows you to fuse like you normally would, if you hold the spool in the first place that is.
Thanks for the bag tip I have a little work to do and then I'm gonna get to my framed staples we'll see how they come out.
Thank you sir
I'm not great at decore builds. I can rip a 1/3 alien/interlock but thats about all I can do consistently clean. So I'm not all that happy with the fusing. If your asking about wrapping as in coiling. Not difficult. I've never had a lot of problems wrapping coils regardless of the build. My first staple was .5 and went off without a hicc-up and I was sitting there wandering why all the fuss about wrapping ribbon. I've had the occasional mishap of course. But on the whole Wrapping is straight forward to me. So to answer your question it was not difficult.
Though, I will say my coils are rarely super clean when it comes to the wrap. I haven't perfected wrapping by any means. But getting a decent wrap has always come second nature to me.
I was saying actually hold the spool inside of the baggie. For super fine wire it allows you to fuse like you normally would, if you hold the spool in the first place that is.
I put blue painter's tape on my spools where I hold them, over the holes - I tried holding with a bag once but felt like it was going to slip out of my hand
Also tape my wire back down to the spool when I'm done; tape clapton wire to the chuck when making decores, tape up high gauge (30+) to keep it from breaking in my chuck
Hey Meg, you have such a great ability to make beautiful coils do you really prefer the vape of a plain round wire sometimes? I remember having some good vapes when I got my first coil master kit and would make those plain round wire wraps out of 24g. I was so proud when I actually wrapped my first set of coils with the little coil master jig and installed them myself. Then I learned how to use the jig to parallel wrap and I really thought I had it going on hehe
I dunno, man... my main thing is trying something new, new is interesting to me
By taping the bag to the inside of a weighted box the bag can be made to stand up vertical, and stable, on the floor so it will be at a relatively far distance away, which is where the tiniest movement won't affect the 90 degree angle between the cores and the wrap wire so much. Doing this allows me to simply guide the wire under the table whilst I rest my arm on my leg giving me even more precise control because 1/ my arm has support so I can move my hand more accurately as a result, and 2/ I'm able to sit in a comfortable position that will allow me to relax more (especially after vaping some CBD...) so that I'll stay more easily focused the entire time to keep moving my hand more accurately, and, at the same time also, allowing me to lean forward by leaning on my leg with my arm, to see the cores. (By stacking 2 pairs of 3× magnification plastic reading glasses leaving ~3/4 inch distance between pairs, you get what I like to call ghetto style magnifying goggles... they let me see the 40g in enough detail to see when it's time to give the weighted box another gentle nudge with my foot, and from time to time I also move my chair a couple inches.)Oh I gotchya. Regarding the plastic bag. It's a really good idea I have to make some 40g framed staples for someone I'm gonna give it a try as opposed to just putting the spool on the floor and holding the wire relatively close. Coiling is what I mean by wrapping. I've always kinda sucked at it, I'm a real big fella and have real big hands and I'm a little clumsy, kinda a spaz, and I think I have a tendency to rush cause I get excited but that's something I can at least work on. I'm surprised you say your not good at decore builds everything I have seen from you looks so super clean and you're a really great builder. Like I take a lot of inspiration from your work, You did a micro Clapton Enigma so you can't be that bad.
Thanks for the bag tip I have a little work to do and then I'm gonna get to my framed staples we'll see how they come out.
Yah it feels sketchy in the bag. But after a while you realize just how tight you can squeeze (and it's pretty damn tight) and the spool will still just roll. I only use it for the 46 ... well sometimes the 42 if I'm ripping it at full speed. It helps when I twitch because it really doesn't put any more tension on the wire in the bag. I've tried using tons of things, including lubing the fingers, but the only thing I've come across so far that guarantees I don't pinch to hard and screw up the tension is the baggie.I put blue painter's tape on my spools where I hold them, over the holes - I tried holding with a bag once but felt like it was going to slip out of my hand
Also tape my wire back down to the spool when I'm done; tape clapton wire to the chuck when making decores, tape up high gauge (30+) to keep it from breaking in my chuck
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I dunno, man... my main thing is trying something new, new is interesting to me
I use to tape up the end of my cores as well, to keep them from breaking. But I don't hardly ever put anything directly into the chuck anymore. My cotter pin never comes out of the drill.
That is how I do para, as a result of a suggestion from Raymo. Though I hadn't considered taping it to the side. That is a great idea!!
seems like 'post your builds' took home all the vapefly pixies in that last challenge thread (thanks challenge team 
)...heres mine with just a quick alien for now. so far so good on the pixie. two air inserts, the smaller one is a little tight for me/this alien coil, but the opened one is perfect. pretty smooth airflow, good flavor and easy as pie to set up. so far im pretty impressed with it and super glad i got a chance to win one.
)...heres mine with just a quick alien for now. so far so good on the pixie. two air inserts, the smaller one is a little tight for me/this alien coil, but the opened one is perfect. pretty smooth airflow, good flavor and easy as pie to set up. so far im pretty impressed with it and super glad i got a chance to win one.
Totally man! It's a great little thang. I plan on throwing something a little higher in it next time to test out the tighter airflow insert. Cause yah a 3 core 6 wrap is pretty hot for that one. I tried lolseems like 'post your builds' took home all the vapefly pixies in that last challenge thread (thanks challenge team
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Well she ain't perfect ... but I'll take her.
I slipped some of the staggers pretty bad cause I pulled to hard on the drill and one of the Frame Stacks slid out of the chuck/glue/binding ... had to re-prep it and I couldn't repair the damage that had been done
SFSFSFC (Staggered Framed Staples, Framing a Staple, Fused Clapton)
21x .3 Ka1, 4x 28g Ni80, 38g KA1 stag, 38g Ni80 fuse, 3mm ID, .06 ohm in the Golem
I slipped some of the staggers pretty bad cause I pulled to hard on the drill and one of the Frame Stacks slid out of the chuck/glue/binding ... had to re-prep it and I couldn't repair the damage that had been done
SFSFSFC (Staggered Framed Staples, Framing a Staple, Fused Clapton)
21x .3 Ka1, 4x 28g Ni80, 38g KA1 stag, 38g Ni80 fuse, 3mm ID, .06 ohm in the Golem
i find this is just hot enough this way, and a little too much with the small airflows. i noticed theres a single hole on the back of the cap and feels a bit mouth-to-lung-y, but its a bit loose, and way too hot with this build. definitely worth trying with a more appropriate build though...
Well she ain't perfect ... but I'll take her.
I slipped some of the staggers pretty bad cause I pulled to hard on the drill and one of the Frame Stacks slid out of the chuck/glue/binding ... had to re-prep it and I couldn't repair the damage that had been done
SFSFSFC (Staggered Framed Staples, Framing a Staple, Fused Clapton)
21x .3 Ka1, 4x 28g Ni80, 38g KA1 stag, 38g Ni80 fuse, 3mm ID, .06 ohm in the Golem
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Daaaaaang!!! I love it
Yah I've got the open one with the 6 wrap and it's just about perfect. A beautifully restricted hit but you can still get a decent amount of air. Thinking I'm going to throw togther a 3x32 next time and work with the 3 hole one. And yes, I'm pretty sure the single hole on the cap is intended to be MTL. But your right ... it is entirely to open for a good mtl hit
Thank you darlin
Thank you darlin
You're welcome, honeybun
Inspiring me to do some big ribbon staggery things over the next few days
LMAO!! Sorry it's the southern in meYou're welcome, honeybun
Inspiring me to do some big ribbon staggery things over the next few days
Yah I've lacked inspiration and motivation for a little bit. I posed a friendly little wideoff with Miguel (kmv_coils) on IG trying to drum up some creative juices
i am kinda getting accustomed to a looser mtl from using the pocket rta, kayfun 5 etc, but i prefer it a bit tighter too. i think this will close down a bit and be tight enough. even with the wide insert, if i just open that single hole half way it feels pretty good. the cap seals on tight enough that if you close the holes, you cant take a drag (unlike my pocket rta clone, which you can fully close and still its too loose for a good mtl lol). that always helps dial in the smaller airflow for mtl.
thats a crazy stagg variant btw. nice recovery from the sound of it too
LMAO!! Sorry it's the southern in me
Yah I've lacked inspiration and motivation for a little bit. I posed a friendly little wideoff with Miguel (kmv_coils) on IG trying to drum up some creative juices
I've lacked free time - but this week I will get it!
That’s beautiful man WOW. With your permission I’d like to attempt the exact same build but I will give you all the credit, I promise, if that’s okay with you. Oh and a question for @raymo2u ! Do you still sell the clamps? I could really use them it would make life a whole lot easier! Here’s a little something I did for fun.Well she ain't perfect ... but I'll take her.
I slipped some of the staggers pretty bad cause I pulled to hard on the drill and one of the Frame Stacks slid out of the chuck/glue/binding ... had to re-prep it and I couldn't repair the damage that had been done
SFSFSFC (Staggered Framed Staples, Framing a Staple, Fused Clapton)
21x .3 Ka1, 4x 28g Ni80, 38g KA1 stag, 38g Ni80 fuse, 3mm ID, .06 ohm in the Golem
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Thank you so much bro!! But, dude you don't need my permission to do anything. This isn't some crazy innovation the deserves some IP rights or anything lmao.
Very simple 40g fused Claptons series.
24 SS316L Alien coils (36 over 3x28) for Mannyscoot!
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
You're really mixing it up, man! Awesome
24 SS316L Alien coils (36 over 3x28) for Mannyscoot!
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
Rad
I know you were being sarcastic ... but a cleanly wrapped coil all wicked up and wet is porn to me!
I know you were being sarcastic ... but a cleanly wrapped coil all wicked up and wet is porn to me!
It's good vaping, too - genuine tight mtl, I missed this little thing, plus found a different drip tip tonight that doesnt touch the posts
I'm get to binge build for myself tomorrow evening
Great build! No, not at the moment and I have no clue when or if I will be making more. I have reached out to a few companies to see if they would be interested in making a deal so they could make it and have it be a bit easier to get, reaching more people.
With the ziploc bag you don't actually even need to hold the wire, at least not as long as the bag is holding the wire snug. Simply just holding the side of your thumb against the wire under the table to keep steering it at that 90 degree angle is all it takes. (That is, aside from gently nudging the box with your foot to move it another half inch or so each time as soon as you can start to feel the wire slowly develop that tiny little amount of added friction against the skin of your thumb.) But if you still prefer to hold the wire, then at 6:00 in the video below is a useful tip about how you can more easily control the tension.
I wish you a merry christmas
Merry Christmas to all my friends at the builder's corner!
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/