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If Fraliens are my favorite functional build the SSFC has to be my second favorite. I have so many coils to make I don’t really have time for anything super fun but the SSFC never goes out of style. I think there is something to exposing the cotton directly to the ribbon wire that does something to the vape. I dunno if anyone else agrees but I find 4-6 plys is plenty for functional vapes. It’s always fun to do a Staggered Variation with like 16 plys 
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You vape SSFCS and “nobody knows nothin” - Joey Diaz
HOW MANY MORE TIMES YOU GONNA TRIPLE HEDGEHOG RAZORBACK A COIL!!!!?Hey you guys, how you doing?
Man... lots of prep here, but it came out
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JK!!
Really looks beautiful!!! I know it’s tedious as hell too the way you did it! Wonder if it will fit in the deck of my 22mm shorty
... Absolutely such a pleasure to see!
Aliens!!! (Ni80 36/28 2.5 ID) IMO the best coils for vaping in the known world! Flavor and clouds for days! 
Finally improved the technique! The cores rarely bundle up, my Clapton wrap rarely kinks, so i can get several coils from a single wire. Yey!!
Also, in my experience, Nichrome cleans up way better than kanthal. Quick dry burn under cool water and voila! Like brand new! It also has better ramp up time, and no metallic taste.
Love Nichrome!
Never going back to kanthal! 
Been using these for the past two weeks on my Goon. Just finished dry burning them and they are clean. No brushing to get gunk off. 
Finally improved the technique! The cores rarely bundle up, my Clapton wrap rarely kinks, so i can get several coils from a single wire. Yey!! Also, in my experience, Nichrome cleans up way better than kanthal. Quick dry burn under cool water and voila! Like brand new! It also has better ramp up time, and no metallic taste.Love Nichrome!
Never going back to kanthal! Been using these for the past two weeks on my Goon. Just finished dry burning them and they are clean. No brushing to get gunk off.
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I’m with you brother I’m N80 all day. Sweet aliens!Aliens!!! (Ni80 36/28 2.5 ID) IMO the best coils for vaping in the known world! Flavor and clouds for days!
Love Nichrome!
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Very clean, beautiful aliens. I want to get some n80 wire. All I have is Kanthal atm sadly.Aliens!!! (Ni80 36/28 2.5 ID) IMO the best coils for vaping in the known world! Flavor and clouds for days!
Love Nichrome!
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View attachment 133360 Been using these on my Goon. Just finished dry burning them and they are clean. No brushing to get gunk off.
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I don't know much about wire brands, but i was using Master of Clouds and i found that it was not very good quality. Now i'm using Temco and it is very good. So if you pick up a couple of spools of ni80, imo you should stay away from MC which is one of the common brands on e-bay and get yourself some Temco. But, yea, imo Nichrome compared to Kanthal is so much better. Taste is crisp, no metallic taste, and it ramps up right away. It's a little more difficult to work with because its a little springy, but, believe me, its worth the effort. It will also lower your ohms on your build, but not by much. If this is a problem, adding an extra wrap or a bigger id usually takes care of it.
Ya, I've been rocking some @Shredtravolta coils and he is an n80 guy too. I've been really loving them. Now thefused claptons I've been making are Kanthal, but that's all I've ever built with. I might have to try some n80 myself. Maybe order some next payday if budget allows.
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Gor for it! And somewhere along the way, you might want to try to build yourself some Aliens. Believe me, it is so worth the trouble. I use to build fused claptons for all my atties before i started building aliens, but once i was able to pull off the build, i was sold. Never put another fused clapton in any of my addies again. And when i started building them with Ni80, it just made them that much better. Vape heaven! So keep on vaping and i hope you get some funds soon.
Made too haha. Aliens are coming. Going to try thetriple core fused clapton first and see how it goes, then aliens are my next step. I'm slowly, but surely getting better. I'll be trying those on Tuesday on my day off and I can't wait. Shed opened my eyes to n80 after trying those amazing coils. Good dude there
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I only use n80Made too haha. Aliens are coming. Going to try thetriple core fused clapton first and see how it goes, then aliens are my next step. I'm slowly, but surely getting better. I'll be trying those on Tuesday on my day off and I can't wait. Shed opened my eyes to n80 after trying those amazing coils. Good dude there
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You know me. I love my SSFCs. And I agree on the ribbon. Me ... I'm a smallish chamber, semi-restricted lung hit, 28/.3, Ni80 kinda guy. So, 4-6 ply is perfect.If Fraliens are my favorite functional build the SSFC has to be my second favorite. I have so many coils to make I don’t really have time for anything super fun but the SSFC never goes out of style. I think there is something to exposing the cotton directly to the ribbon wire that does something to the vape. I dunno if anyone else agrees but I find 4-6 plys is plenty for functional vapes. It’s always fun to do a Staggered Variation with like 16 plys
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I did a nice all day kinda with the specs you like man. It’s 28 N80 frames, 4 ply of .3 N90 wrapped in 38 N80. Nice nice vape
2×28/38 ka1 fused clapton 2.5mm id 4.5 wraps @.5Ω. This coil is insanely amazing in the Nixon RDTA. I got this from @CaFF and put it on my squonker. This setup is amazing.
Attempting triple core fused claptons tomorrow. Pretty excited about it.
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Kooks nice bro, a good photo too. W00t!
I'm learning. Have a good teacher
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Aww shucks..lol... Glad to help out.
You might not believe this, but the triple core clapton is a little more difficult than the Alien in terms of keeping the triple cores from bundling up. In my experience, the clapton wrap wire helps to keep the cores from bundling on the alien. On the triple core Clapton, you really have to watch how much pressure you put on the wrap or the cores will bunch up on you very quickly. I don't know if other builders feel the same way, but this is what i have experienced on both of these builds.2×28/38 ka1 fused clapton 2.5mm id 4.5 wraps @.5Ω. This coil is insanely amazing in the Nixon RDTA. I got this from @CaFF and put it on my squonker. This setup is amazing.
Attempting triple core fused claptons tomorrow. Pretty excited about it.
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Well look at that, great solid build. Isn’t it great to taste the accomplishment of your own work!?
I’m proud that you’re posting your builds now and you’re gonna hit that triple core I’m sure of it!
Really spectacular color my friend, looks great!I did a nice all day kinda with the specs you like man. It’s 28 N80 frames, 4 ply of .3 N90 wrapped in 38 N80. Nice nice vape
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Any suggestion on how you'll know how much pressure is too much? I'm pretty excited to try this build, but worry about the cores bundling on me. So far I've had great luck with my building and haven't really had any failures, but I know that one day my luck will run out haha. But honestly, there is no failure, only learning experiences.
Good luck man! Few tips for you on your multi-core journey.2×28/38 ka1 fused clapton 2.5mm id 4.5 wraps @.5Ω. This coil is insanely amazing in the Nixon RDTA. I got this from @CaFF and put it on my squonker. This setup is amazing.
Attempting triple core fused claptons tomorrow. Pretty excited about it.
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The top things for any multi-core build you do from here on out. They are all equally important. Every one of them will greatly affect how easy/clean your build goes.
*Core tension and Consistency - All core need to have an equal amount of tension between the chuck and the swivels. Here's a quick video by our beloved @zephyr . This method is the best one I've found for consistently getting even core tension. Personally, I attach my cores to the swivel end first.
*Fuse Angle,Tension, and Consistency - The goal is to hold the fuse wire as loose as possible while still being able to control the angle. Doing so keeps as little tension compressing the cores together as possible. Which in turn keeps them from wanting to collapse in on themselves and/or twist. This changes from gauge to gauge, and core set to core set, so it will be trial and error till you find the feel for it. Once you've chosen an amount of tension then stick with it. When you change the tension on the fuse it will pull on the cores causing them to dip. This cause the fuse wire to come into conact with them at a different angle which causes the fuse to lay differently on the cores. Which brings us to angle. For tight claptons try your best to make a perfect "T" where the fuse hits the cores (once you have a feel for it you may even find yourself angling a bit towards the chuck). You already seem to have a decent command over this considering your last few builds have been super clean. As you level up in gauges, should you choose to, you will find that practicing a loose fuse tension pays off exponentially.
*Don't focus to much on your cores - Pay closer attention to the above mentioned fuse aspects than anything else. It's hard to break away from staring at the cores to see if everything is going well. But, if your paying attention to the angle I promise you will see if something goes amiss.
If you have any questions or need anymore advice we are here to help
Good luck and let us know how it turns out for yah!
This is mostly true. Pre-stretched aliens tend to want to lay out flat. Especially at lower gauges. With the right stretch it's almost difficult to collapse a 26/36 alien. But in the end the fuse tension aspect remains the same. If you put to much on the fuse you either end up with an over stretched decore or collapsed cores.
Another aspect of core stability is the mass of the fuse vs. the cores. The bigger (lower gauge) the fuse is, compared to the core, the more tension it puts on them and the more they want to bunch up on themselves. 10 gauges, 28/38 26/36, isn't just a thing people do only because it's aesthetically pleasing. It's a great ratio to keep the mass of the cores high enough to help with collapse. It is way more difficult to do a 30/36. I've done a 32/32 alien once ... it was miserable lmao.
This is tremendous advice.Good luck man! Few tips for you on your multi-core journey.
The top things for any multi-core build you do from here on out. They are all equally important. Every one of them will greatly affect how easy/clean your build goes.
*Core tension and Consistency - All core need to have an equal amount of tension between the chuck and the swivels. Here's a quick video by our beloved @zephyr . This method is the best one I've found for consistently getting even core tension. Personally, I attach my cores to the swivel end first.
And once you've started fusing make sure you keep the same backwards tension on your drill hand. Changing that tension will change the fuse tension (explanation below). Many use a table top vice to hold the drill in place. I don't own a vice ... but I often wish I would just go buy one because I think it would make life so much easier in multiple ways lol
*Fuse Angle,Tension, and Consistency - The goal is to hold the fuse wire as loose as possible while still being able to control the angle. Doing so keeps as little tension compressing the cores together as possible. Which in turn keeps them from wanting to collapse in on themselves and/or twist. This changes from gauge to gauge, and core set to core set, so it will be trial and error till you find the feel for it. Once you've chosen an amount of tension then stick with it. When you change the tension on the fuse it will pull on the cores causing them to dip. This cause the fuse wire to come into conact with them at a different angle which causes the fuse to lay differently on the cores. Which brings us to angle. For tight claptons try your best to make a perfect "T" where the fuse hits the cores (once you have a feel for it you may even find yourself angling a bit towards the chuck). You already seem to have a decent command over this considering your last few builds have been super clean. As you level up in gauges, should you choose to, you will find that practicing a loose fuse tension pays off exponentially.
*Don't focus to much on your cores - Pay closer attention to the above mentioned fuse aspects than anything else. It's hard to break away from staring at the cores to see if everything is going well. But, if your paying attention to the angle I promise you will see if something goes amiss.
If you have any questions or need anymore advice we are here to help
Good luck and let us know how it turns out for yah!
I definitely will let y'all know if I have any questions and whether it be success or failure I'll post the result. I appreciate all the support and insight all of you have given me on this journey. Just one of the many reasons I love VU.Good luck man! Few tips for you on your multi-core journey.
The top things for any multi-core build you do from here on out. They are all equally important. Every one of them will greatly affect how easy/clean your build goes.
*Core tension and Consistency - All core need to have an equal amount of tension between the chuck and the swivels. Here's a quick video by our beloved @zephyr . This method is the best one I've found for consistently getting even core tension. Personally, I attach my cores to the swivel end first.
And once you've started fusing make sure you keep the same backwards tension on your drill hand. Changing that tension will change the fuse tension (explanation below). Many use a table top vice to hold the drill in place. I don't own a vice ... but I often wish I would just go buy one because I think it would make life so much easier in multiple ways lol
*Fuse Angle,Tension, and Consistency - The goal is to hold the fuse wire as loose as possible while still being able to control the angle. Doing so keeps as little tension compressing the cores together as possible. Which in turn keeps them from wanting to collapse in on themselves and/or twist. This changes from gauge to gauge, and core set to core set, so it will be trial and error till you find the feel for it. Once you've chosen an amount of tension then stick with it. When you change the tension on the fuse it will pull on the cores causing them to dip. This cause the fuse wire to come into conact with them at a different angle which causes the fuse to lay differently on the cores. Which brings us to angle. For tight claptons try your best to make a perfect "T" where the fuse hits the cores (once you have a feel for it you may even find yourself angling a bit towards the chuck). You already seem to have a decent command over this considering your last few builds have been super clean. As you level up in gauges, should you choose to, you will find that practicing a loose fuse tension pays off exponentially.
*Don't focus to much on your cores - Pay closer attention to the above mentioned fuse aspects than anything else. It's hard to break away from staring at the cores to see if everything is going well. But, if your paying attention to the angle I promise you will see if something goes amiss.
If you have any questions or need anymore advice we are here to help
Good luck and let us know how it turns out for yah!
I think the two major challenges for more cores is keeping the cores parallel and keeping a tight wrap. To keep a tight wrap I start at 90 until I get a tight groove and then I allow a very slight backwards angle for maximum tightness. If you have trouble keeping the cores parallel you can use a paper clip or ribbon slider about every 1-2 inches. If you do use a slider, give it a squeeze with your nylon pliers to ensure the slider is tight enough. That should make it fairly easy.
Also ... the master of wire @raymo2u taught me a lesson that changed my building forever. Clean Hands!!!! Soft clean hands and fingers means a smooth surface for the wire to glide over easily. This means you can hold the fuse a little tighter allowing you more control over the wire.
Thanks allot both of you.
@Shredtravolta I'm glad you reminded me about the paper clip, I had forgotten about that, thank you.
@WPMac thanks for this tip. I do was my hands before I do anything vape related as a general rule anyhow as my prep process. I hate my hands being dirty anyhow and wash them often, but ALWAYS before building or mixing juice. This is always good advice for everyone
Thanks allot both of you.
@Shredtravolta I'm glad you reminded me about the paper clip, I had forgotten about that, thank you.
@WPMac thanks for this tip. I do was my hands before I do anything vape related as a general rule anyhow as my prep process. I hate my hands being dirty anyhow and wash them often, but ALWAYS before building or mixing juice. This is always good advice for everyone
Np, it’s been my experience that if you put the paperclip far away from the binding site the cores may still collapse. I know it’s more tedious but it’s good to just do an inch or two at a time and then slide the paperclip accordingly. You’re gonna have no problem brother.
6 core 28g x 36. Fun to build but great to vape!
(It gets even more tricky when you start using ribbon for cores.)
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A 6 core alien sounds like an amazing vape, maybe one day, but will be a while haha.
Always a clean and beautiful build. Nice job bud.
Thanks!!! 6 round 28g cores is great. Really quick ramp up and really warm imo. I know that people I’ve sent them to almost always love them as well.
would loveto try one eventually. I know that the 3 cores that I have are amazing. I could only imagine how insanethe 6 cores would be.Thanks!!! 6 round 28g cores is great. Really quick ramp up and really warm imo. I know that people I’ve sent them to almost always love them as well.
would loveto try one eventually. I know that the 3 cores that I have are amazing. I could only imagine how insanethe 6 cores would be.Thanks!!! 6 round 28g cores is great. Really quick ramp up and really warm imo. I know that people I’ve sent them to almost always love them as well.
I wish i could give you more helpful information, but in my experience, it's a feel thing. You just got to get the feel of it. You want to pay attention when it doesn't work, and try a different pressure. More or less. Once you begin to have some success, don't forget how much pressure you applied and stay constant. I know! Not much help! But it's just a trial and error thing. Watching videos is very helpful, but in the end, you also have to find what works for you. Different builders have different styles or ways to make the same build. For example, with the Alien, some builders like to hold the wrap under the core, others in front of it. Some use swivels, some do it freehand. Some stretch their cores, some don't. I personally like to hold my wrap above the cores about 4in away. That works for me. It's a learning curve, but eventually i'm sure you'll get it . The key is to persevere and never give up.
Yup! Very true! I personally put a tiny drop of e-liquid on my fingers to make the process more smooth. Wash my hands every time i build also of course!
Thank you bud. Believe it or not that helps more than you know. I just bought paper clips for stabilizing the wire while spinning, really looking forward to trying this build when I get home.
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I saw mistakes i was making so next time it will be way cleaner
Exactly, besides, never know. Maybe someone will see a good remedy for a fix.
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It's been pretty quiet recently actually. Don't worry, I'm sure it will pick up soon haha
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Well, having trouble seeing if it bunched up, but I don't think it did. 3×28/38g ka1 2.5mm id triple core fused clapton 6 wraps. Haven't checked ohms yet.
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Looking goodWell, having trouble seeing if it bunched up, but I don't think it did. 3×28/38g ka1 2.5mm id triple core fused clapton 6 wraps. Haven't checked ohms yet.
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