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GorGon27

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The 3Rd party will never win though. Trump might in fact endorse it if it was brought to his attention. He will do anything controversial. I don't dig either option but this would make either more desirable to me. Of course a Libertarian would endorse it. I am with them on that but you have to realize they would also probably endorse *******.
 
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Most vapers will still vote their party.
Sigh.
I will either write myself in or vote Johnson. Leaning toward the Johnson vote.

No I do not expect the third party to win but I vote for me not just to be with the winning party.
I voted Johnson last time. First time I ever voted Libertarian.

If nothing else it is my statement that I do not like either of the 2 parties choices.
 

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I would love to see Johnson win the election. A snowball has a better chance in hell though. It seems the more of a threat a third party would be, the more the media suppresses it. Why can he not participate in the debates?
 

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The 3Rd party will never win though. Trump might in fact endorse it if it was brought to his attention. He will do anything controversial. I don't dig either option but this would make either more desirable to me. Of course a Libertarian would endorse it. I am with them on that but you have to realize they would also probably endorse C*caine.
I for one would love to bring the vaping issue to Trumps attention. Where do I begin? And also he might not pay any attention to me, but what if we got someone like Greg Conley involved?
 

GorGon27

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I do not think you can actually reach him Lol. I bet he does not mind it though.Just guessing.
 

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I would love to see Johnson win the election. A snowball has a better chance in hell though. It seems the more of a threat a third party would be, the more the media suppresses it. Why can he not participate in the debates?

A candidate has to hit at least 20% or 25% ( I forgot) in the polls to get in the debate.

Johnson is close. He just recently got far enough to be on every states ballot, not many 3rd party candidates get there.
 

fq06

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15%. It used to be 10% or something till ross perot made into the debates and then they decided to raise it to 15% to keep it to just the 2 parties :wait:
 

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He's already got my vote, I think. Personal liberty and freedom, the very basic premise of the founding of this nation, and its most defining factor internationally, imo, should be givens on any party's ticket. Unfortunately, that is not the case, in one way or another, for the big two.
 

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Yeah, I don't want to vote R or D this year and in California anything but a D vote is wasted. I can't bring myself to check the box for hillary or donald and would just feel better about checking gary's box than leaving it blank (which I've never not voted) but if gary takes enough away from hillary for a tie and it goes to electoral college... republicans may give it to trump. Ugh.

I think it wouldn't make any difference here in CA, it would be the swing states that if enough voted for gary it could go to electoral.
 

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I think he would at least keep them on the subject of policy and keep the email & tax return scandal to a minimum. If he was in the last one and they went on like they did and gary had any policy substance to him he would have won.
 

GorGon27

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I think it is funny the outrageous things Donald says but the president is a very serious job not a joke. You can't go around calling your staff fat and ugly for instance Lol. It would be unheard of if Gary won but the way this is going who knows.
 

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I voted Libertarian as much as possible in the past. I have voted for Gary in the past. Good lord, he has been creeping me out lately. I think I will pull the lever for Trump this go around (It is the anarchist in me). I have had to endure Bush and Obama for the last 16 years. I want to feast on Neocon and Democrat tears November 9th :)
 

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I voted Libertarian as much as possible in the past. I have voted for Gary in the past. Good lord, he has been creeping me out lately. I think I will pull the lever for Trump this go around (It is the anarchist in me). I have had to endure Bush and Obama for the last 16 years. I want to feast on Neocon and Democrat tears November 9th :)

Yup, Gary turned into a nut job. This libertarian is voting for Trump too.
 

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Mike Pence signed house bill 1432 and it gave the vaping community in Indiana two black eyes. So not hard to think about what is on his agenda.
 

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Mike Pence can't sign or veto a bill as VP.
 
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he could in Indiana.

Or if elected VP could after Trump dies of terminal arrogance.

Not as VP.

Johnson won't be able to sign a bill either. He can't win. So, it doesn't matter if he supports vaping.

Hillary won't sign a Republican bill to roll back the grandfather date that dims don't support.

Trump is more likely to sign it.

If your voting for vaping, Trump is the only valid choice.

If your voting for Johnson, it's for other reasons than vaping.
 

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I dont think Pence is or will be anymore than Trump's hand puppet. But still its not good news.
 

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I voted Libertarian as much as possible in the past. I have voted for Gary in the past. Good lord, he has been creeping me out lately. I think I will pull the lever for Trump this go around (It is the anarchist in me). I have had to endure Bush and Obama for the last 16 years. I want to feast on Neocon and Democrat tears November 9th :)

I can't disagree with this, if you want to go the anarchist route and give the middle finger to the country, vote trump.

I'm voting crazy gary only because I can't in good conscience vote for hillary or donald. He won't win so I don't have to worry about him running the country.
 

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I can't disagree with this, if you want to go the anarchist route and give the middle finger to the country, vote trump.

I'm voting crazy gary only because I can't in good conscience vote for hillary or donald. He won't win so I don't have to worry about him running the country.
Yep a protest vote for me as well. I voted but did not like either of the main candidates kind of thing.
 

GorGon27

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What got leaked tonight is too funny. I guess not if you are a Woman. Although Woman that value their heat might still vote for him. This is a lot funnier than Nixon,Clinton or any in my lifetime.

Gary is not crazy, that is how those people are. They are just out there. I said before he would probably legalize c*caine. The problem is he even knows a lot less about world affairs than Trump. That is crazy.

At least Hillary is qualified for the job. If she did a good job is another story. You guy's might regret trump too. He could make us worse than China. Yeah, he will bring back all the jobs for $3 an hour!

We can't win this time. Just staying home. I do not even care.
 

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Johnson who?
Voting like that is a waste of a vote, unless you turn it into a protest vote, make most vapers join in (or at least say they will) and make it known to the press.
Then you'll get Trump's attention.
Killary won't endorse it anyway because she's Obama's lap dog and a piece of ***** ******** ****** ****** ******* (fill in the blanks) on her own accord.
 

GorGon27

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No way she will endorse it. She might shut it down. If everyone convinces Trump he might be okay with it. The reason is because he is not a politician.
 

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The thing with Trump that hasn't really come up yet in the debates is health care. To repeal Obamacare is one thing, but replace it with what, specifically? If the answer is just "no" like with Mitt Romney, Trump will lose. People do fear being left to die. Take health out of the equation, I would vote Trump with no further thought, then go out and buy a carton of reds. I may not like his take on social issues or his general demeanor, but that's mostly just noise in the grander scheme of things.
 

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As insane as the 2 current debaters have gotten, would be cool to see it happen.

As it turns out, I took an after debate poll and was able to comment . Last night a posted a long response to my feeling about how the debate affected each candidate. Trump of course is my choice. I also posted this morning in the 'political' thread. Last nights post was most fitting for the comment section in the poll I took this morning.

I rephrased a few words and strongly added VAPING SAVES LIVES type of speech at the end. I hope someone reads the damn comment. I've posted on all 3 of Trump's FB pages about it as well. I suggest you all do it too. Bombard him with it and mention it would be a large part of the healthcare plan and vaping would be something no politician would bring up.

As far as Johnson goes, he must be a vaper...or his mother in order for him to comment as he did.

Here's the link to the post debate survey: http://rnctrack.hosted.strongview.c...&v=x4x4x-60ds60kr6hafWxaCerdCfjYCWCWCdj61&WCW
 

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I for one would love to bring the vaping issue to Trumps attention. Where do I begin? And also he might not pay any attention to me, but what if we got someone like Greg Conley involved?
Why would you bring it to Trump's attention? That's about as useful as telling the guy down the street. Trump will never be in a place where he would have any influence on vaping laws. I have confidence that the majority of Americans are not stupid enough to elect this psycho moron to the most powerful position in the country.
 

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Why would you bring it to Trump's attention? That's about as useful as telling the guy down the street. Trump will never be in a place where he would have any influence on vaping laws. I have confidence that the majority of Americans are not stupid enough to elect this psycho moron to the most powerful position in the country.
You have a point. I'm not going to get into which candidate I'm for or against. They all suck. However, One can call, write letters to any politician. Even mow any message you want into the White House lawn. But people like myself and the other 99%, our voices fall on deaf ears. It takes 6 digits to be heard, at least 7 or 8 to change one of their minds. Our elected officials don't rule our country, the corporations and Wall Street do. We have the best government that money can buy. If you want to see things change (not necessarily in a good way), mess around with the 1%'s money. If the vaping industry was not doing just that, it would be a non issue.
 

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We now have a very risk averse climate, a recovery sustained by low interest rates and toleration of nuisance fees on the corporate side.

Over time, that drug has developed the serious side effect of making the regulation of you and I, on things like vaping and many others, the only controlable item.

We stopped the bleeding by taking out a 3rd mortgage on the house, which then went further under water.

I think that makes the legal battle for vaping the one worth watching.

Smoking fits right in, being a short term fix with long range consequences. Anyone who thinks our kids are being looked out for needs some serious smelling salts.
 

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Mike Pence signed house bill 1432 and it gave the vaping community in Indiana two black eyes. So not hard to think about what is on his agenda.

This. I was mildly intrigued by Trump until he selected this asswipe. Now not only will *I* not vote for Trump (and for gods sake not that criminal hilary!), I even told my husband that if he voted for Trump, he could cook his own meals for a year... or maybe 4. :D I never played the sex card to get my way with the mate, but food? Absolutely. :D

Andria
 

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DAMN WOMEN......LOL Yes, no way shape or form is there any humor in this situation. The closer it gets to the election the more nervous I get try not to think about it. Its not looking good for this country. They both have pluses and alot more minuses. But it is what it is, what happens is going to happen. The way those to are acting is comical but adults in there position dont act like two elementary kids fighting on the play ground.
 

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