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From what I understand...specs released Tuesday at 0900, preorders start at 1000
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no wlets look at an istick 30
built in batter
will last me 3 months before i need a new one
so at $28ish a piece now even $30
that $120 a year
provari $250 for that same time period
no
$250, plus batteries and a charger.
now the provari might go 2 years without an issue
and in the same time frame then i am at $240 for the istick 30s
still cheaper, unless i spent $25 extra for the extended warranty no wait its still cheaper
now 3years in and have to get it fixed
i think its about $40 or so for a provari repair.
now its gets cheaper to own a provari
After 3 years of use.[/QUOTE]
my first and only istick died after 6 months ,but i am down to one pro,i sold off the other 5
kept my favorite most abused one ,,had it four years and only had to get repaired once,after dropping from a 2nd story roof
no wlets look at an istick 30
built in batter
will last me 3 months before i need a new one
so at $28ish a piece now even $30
that $120 a year
provari $250 for that same time period
no
$250, plus batteries and a charger.
now the provari might go 2 years without an issue
and in the same time frame then i am at $240 for the istick 30s
still cheaper, unless i spent $25 extra for the extended warranty no wait its still cheaper
now 3years in and have to get it fixed
i think its about $40 or so for a provari repair.
now its gets cheaper to own a provari
After 3 years of use.[/QUOTE]
my first and only istick died after 6 months ,but i am down to one pro,i sold off the other 5
kept my favorite most abused one ,,had it four years and only had to get repaired once,after dropping from a 2nd story roof
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i stay away from preorders ,regardless of who it is
I've learned the hard way about preorders, most particularly from participating in coops.
And in spite of the fact that I sold my Provari 18 months ago, I still see my friend enjoying it in spite of its total abuse (falling from a roof, being run over by a truck). And I count up both the expensive and inexpensive mods I've bought since that lived less than 6 months (some less than a week).
If it has the right number of watts I could be tempted - if only I could decide what that number should be (and, no 40 is definitely not the magic number!).
And in spite of the fact that I sold my Provari 18 months ago, I still see my friend enjoying it in spite of its total abuse (falling from a roof, being run over by a truck). And I count up both the expensive and inexpensive mods I've bought since that lived less than 6 months (some less than a week).
If it has the right number of watts I could be tempted - if only I could decide what that number should be (and, no 40 is definitely not the magic number!).
ima guessin you are talking about some of those custom made items in a co-op ?? not buying stuff from china correct
i have watched a lot of those types go bad,,real bad
and then there is that not so "super t" deal
Nope, not at all! A VT that died in a week, and a D2 that took 6 weeks to arrive - but I love that one, so all is good (although the price had dropped by the time I got it!).
VT ?? i did sorta do a pre-order
i jumped on 101's the day i knew they had them in their shop,and it was still listed as a pre-order my D2 stating mis-firing after 2 weeks of use ,sent it back and it coming back to me unfixed ,,ima gonna blow up the forums over this issue
I don't know if plastic is a deal breaker if it is done well. The problem is there is no way to tell until someone has one in their hands. Given Provape's legendary quality, it would seem like a stupid idea to go with plastic if it wasn't somehow tested to hold up to their high standards, but stranger things have happened I guess...
I'm not preordering. In fact I am waiting for one of Provape's 20% off sales. I'm patient.
Plastic is such a generic term. It is actually polycarbonate. Very tough and durable.
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If it's so tough why has certain juices melt or crack my polycarbonate tanks?? (plastic)... Lol
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It's the best plastic money can buy- It's proplastic. Lol
Seriously though, there's nothing wrong with plastic in a mod ie-boxer, hcigarHB40 and vapedroid to name a few.
I still don't know how I would personally feel about having a plastic mod. That atty can get damm hot.
Hope it's biodegradable
Seriously though, there's nothing wrong with plastic in a mod ie-boxer, hcigarHB40 and vapedroid to name a few.
I still don't know how I would personally feel about having a plastic mod. That atty can get damm hot.
Hope it's biodegradable
being its provape
they've done their homework on the plastic at least i think they have given they charge so much for their mods.
so i think we are just suppose to trust them, that using plastic was a great decision.
Kinda feel thats being a little elitist there
im not sold on the idea of a $200 PLASTIC mod,
PC can crack from juice
it breaks easier then metal from drops
plastic screw holes tend to strip out a lot easier then metal
who knows, it will probably be fine.
but for $200 it needs some awesome specs to compete against VS imho
they've done their homework on the plastic at least i think they have given they charge so much for their mods.
so i think we are just suppose to trust them, that using plastic was a great decision.
Kinda feel thats being a little elitist there
im not sold on the idea of a $200 PLASTIC mod,
PC can crack from juice
it breaks easier then metal from drops
plastic screw holes tend to strip out a lot easier then metal
who knows, it will probably be fine.
but for $200 it needs some awesome specs to compete against VS imho
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Well with the fact that my VS has had two failures that are gonna cost me in less than a year and my Provari has had zero in over a year not so much.
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Ummmm... That's been your experience. My experience has been 3 provari's all of which went to the shop in under 6 months, 1 for damaged screen(p2.5), one for a popped up 510 and loose board(p2.5) one for messed up battery contacts(p3)
OUTSIDE OF DNA BOARD ISSUES, none of my vsmods went in.
2-dna30s, 2dna40s,4-rdna40s,1-dna200.
Granted the dna40 issues are well documented and sucked immensely, however that is an evolv not vs issue.
My point is, we can spar and compare medial issues all day; but, both mod companies charge similar prices to service and repair their mods(for a reason), despite the age of the mods. one is not any 'better' than the other. One just offers a different feature set.
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That is my problem, sure it is good plastic, but it is still a $200 plastic mod, heard of people driving over provari's and still working fine, wonder if that would be the same for a plastic provari too.
Not saying I would not buy one, as provape do have the rep of mods that are reliable and strong, but I will wait for the stats on it, the honest reviews and then the same as Garemlin, I will wait for a sale, black friday isn't that far off, and sure provape will do a sale.
I think it's repurposed left nut implants.
If it is, then you need to buy a pair for the full effect!
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Here is my deal. If I was looking at a 40w mod, that gave a good quality vape, in the 40w range, and still compact:
-VaporShark DNA40- board issues have been worked out. True 40w RMS output, USA made board, and has temp control $99
-IPVD2 - 60W, temp control both nickel and titanium $50
-YiHi SX Mini- built like as well as the classic ProVari, 75w, can do 150w with extension tube, temp control for nickel, titanium and stainless (coming in v2), 4 different heating curves (slow ramp up, steady power, boosted pre-heat) $175
-ProVari Radius: 40w? No temp control, untried and tested case design, $199
...and those are just the single battery compact mods. There are many others in the under $200 price point that blow it away in any specs
So with that said, unless one is a die-hard ProVape loyalist, it's really hard to justify this device- no matter how you spin it
Now, with that being said, I'll give one point supporting ProVape: The polycarbonate case. First there are different types of polycarbonates, some stronger than others. The factor of cracking? Wouldn't take much to use an epoxy base glaze inside and out of the case to make it impervious to juice cracking it. Secondly, plastic does not always have to be cheap. Car bumpers (and many other parts) are plastics, and subjected to a lot more stresses than our vape (heat, cold, impact, vibration, oils, UVR, chemicals etc). Modern handguns are predominately plastics, and I can guarantee the shock and vibration from a 10mm Glock far surpasses what most mods will ever see. In fact, some plastics are actually more expensive than metal to produce. All things aside, the fact that the case is made of a type of "plastic" is actually the one thing that is NOT a factor in ruling this device out for me...the price and other specs do a good enough job of that on their own!
then don't it. sounds as tho you don't meet the criteria to be a provape owner anyway..take that any ol way you want
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The only criteria to be a Provari owner is to be a vaper who want to own a Provari. Both my wife and I own v2.5's, she still uses hers with an expromizer that I build to 1.6 Ohms. Provari has it's place in the vaping world, same as many other brands that have been shown to hold up over time. Some folks will gravitate to being fanboys/fangirls for a particular manufacturer. Dismissing others who like different equipment is akin to the Mac vs PC mindset, or Dodge vs. Chevy. Either way, what is chosen is up to the individual.
My next door Neighbor owns a VW Passat Diesel. She was an insufferable snob about clean diesel technology, Bio-Diversity, Eco this and Eco that. Now she thinks she's going to get a new car with lawsuit money. After the lawyers fees, she might get a $2000 off certificate for a new VW. My other neighbor Barb coined a nickname for her: DDD (not her tit size). Dirty Diesel Debbie.
While I like Provari, YiHi SXMini 350J, and some others, to be perfectly honest, I can't recommend them to a novice vapor because of price. When I started vaping I bought a DSE starter kit with bridged atomizers, cartridges that held 5-6 puffs of eliquid, and then cartomizers for $195. Two Ego Style batteries, charger, and 4 atomizers, 8 cartridges. Back then I thought it was a stunning deal. It got me off the smokes. After that I bought an Ego T Tank system when I had killed the batteries on the DSE System. New vapers have a huge range of options now, even a Nautilus Mini and a iStick 20 watt beats the hell out of what I started with.
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Well that leaves multiple possibilities as to what you meant by the statement
Either:
1-his rationalization and thought process makes sense.
2- he is not good enough to fit in with the Provape owners club; furthering the picture that it is only for the elite special vapor
I can't help but after seeing some the things said ad nauseam by the self proclaimed 'provarinati' that its the latter.
That group by the way, is one that rebel and I both came from. and if you read what was written by both of us, its not anti prorape, its more saddened because we would both like to see Provape succeed again at appealing to broader based clientele, than their core sheeple. I don't see a plastic 40w mod doing that. Not when it offers nothing 'revolutionary' or 'different' for mods of equal build quality that are less expensive.
I guess I don't qualify either.... too bad I'm still a Provape owner.
well thats one thought on "criteria"
i remember those days ,i had blu ,m401901's and a lot of others i never knew what the threading was
boy i thought i was king shit when the Ego 650mah came out ,i drilled a hole down thru the cartridge soi could refill the stuffing without having to remove the cartridge ,then the 900mah came out ,,,,wooooooo hoooooooo
then why do you constantly call them "prorape" !!! Evolv's first mod lead the way in vape rape big time
and your concept of "criteria" is way off base
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Hence asking you for clarification which; instead of answering, you just quoted your previous statement 'take that any ol way you want'
So again what ''criteria''?
Some are constrained by pragmatism.
2nd time
what company name slams do you use for sigelei,evolv,Ude,P4U yadda yadda
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So basically what you're saying is Porape has a criteria one must meet before he or she can be entrusted with owning one of their pthingies?
That's the epitome of ridiculous.
Company slams? I don't own the others you mentioned but I've referred to 'evolv' as 'devolve' after the dna40 debacle. or yihi as yoohoo , why do you take a comment about the pthingies so personal? Get a sense of humor, dude. Life is short .
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Aww f1r3b1rd, I know there are some ProVari users who are less than tactful when promoting their devices and I'd love to dope slap them, but it seems to me sometimes you have a chip on your shoulder and sometimes you're correct in your point and these two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive LOL.
IMHO, if you want higher power, TC etc and all the things that ProVari doesn't offer, well then, yah, you don't meet 'the criteria' to be a ProVari owner because the specs of the device don't match your vaping style. There's no judgement there, no special club.
I don't expect ProVape to meet the needs of everyone. As a business they have the right to decide what market or segment of the market they want to appeal to. I don't expect that just because someone else is doing it they should. Based on my years in business, I'd actually recommend they don't. (no desire to devolve into business discussion please).
As a twist on the arguments - I'm not sure about a box mod. It makes business sense for them to go to add a box to their offering, but I have little hands and have found that most aren't comfortable for me based on size, weight and/or shape. The specs may or may not be there for me, but the ergonomics may take it out of contention. I'd bet 95%+ people have larger hands than mine so it's probably a good fit for them. I won't be surprised or angry if it doesn't fit my hand. It is what it is.
Please all - vape what you like and be happy.
IMHO, if you want higher power, TC etc and all the things that ProVari doesn't offer, well then, yah, you don't meet 'the criteria' to be a ProVari owner because the specs of the device don't match your vaping style. There's no judgement there, no special club.
I don't expect ProVape to meet the needs of everyone. As a business they have the right to decide what market or segment of the market they want to appeal to. I don't expect that just because someone else is doing it they should. Based on my years in business, I'd actually recommend they don't. (no desire to devolve into business discussion please).
As a twist on the arguments - I'm not sure about a box mod. It makes business sense for them to go to add a box to their offering, but I have little hands and have found that most aren't comfortable for me based on size, weight and/or shape. The specs may or may not be there for me, but the ergonomics may take it out of contention. I'd bet 95%+ people have larger hands than mine so it's probably a good fit for them. I won't be surprised or angry if it doesn't fit my hand. It is what it is.
Please all - vape what you like and be happy.
i do have a sense of humor ,you just can't see it
stop loking for something that just isn't there
i'm not promoting anything viable,,and you're not going to do much dope slappin damage with those little hands of yours either
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LOL. One can always dream. Just imagined provari whack a mole with certain avatars coming up. ok that wasn't nice but it was a funny picture.
I got on the Provari bandwagon as a Newbie Vapor, lol, but as you can see I still have my 3 original Provari's that's sat on the shelf for over 2 years now. Granted they are top quality in every respect except being grossly underpowered... If ProVape would build a quality VW mod that could fire down to .2 ohm and have at least 60 watts available I would buy one in a heartbeat, for that's what I need in my vaping today. I've come a long ways since my newbie days and I know what it takes to keep me tobacco free. And after all that's why I chose to vape in the first place, just sayin
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yea it is funny,i just can't see anybody whacking my avatar,other then one of them envious female types
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So is it just me or is it more to the point that prorape doesn't fit your criteria?
I got on the Provari bandwagon as a Newbie Vapor, lol, but as you can see I still have my 3 original Provari's that's sat on the shelf for over 2 years now. Granted they are top quality in every respect except being grossly underpowered... If ProVape would build a quality VW mod that could fire down to .2 ohm and have at least 60 watts available I would buy one in a heartbeat, for that's what I need in my vaping today. I've come a long ways since my newbie days and I know what it takes to keep me tobacco free. And after all that's why I chose to vape in the first place, just sayin
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I mean I know its childish to some but to me the phraseology matters.
Edit: in other words
Saying, 'you don't meet prorapes criteria' means something totally different than' Prorape Doesn't meat your criteria'
Make sense? or is that my brain injury?
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Criteria? What criteria, lol all I can say I outgrew my Provari's... They no longer fit my vaping needs these days.. can't say it no simpler than that
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I hate the way threads like this always seem to turn personal. We are all on the same side. No matter what we use. Point is Provape products will never fit the needs of all vapers. But what many people fail to realize is subohm 150w vapers are not the majority. It may seem that way because that group is always more vocal about their vaping. How low they go, the new hot coil they build. They are excited about it. The more conservative vapers honestly don't have much exciting to talk about. But just because you see more high power vapers on forums and Facebook groups don't think that they are the majority of the vaping population.
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Come on Chanara...
Leave the Drama at the other place, OK?!?
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As firebird said, are you saying that I don't meet the criteria to own one? Or that the device doesn't meet my criteria for owning one? Huge difference in meaning, bro.
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^----- this is exactly why these threads turn down this road. As soon as someone says that a ProVari product needs a touch more power to be a viable option for them, the ProVari defenders ignore everything else the person says, and calls them a "150w cloud chaser". They ignore the other compliments of the product, and even the fact that they mention that the product would work for them, however there is no room to move if they needed even 1W more, which isn't a bad thing on a $50 mod, (which I'm sure you will ignore this, since I'm alread a dumb 150w cloud chaser in your mind-- even though I vape under 40w most of the time), but on a top $$ mod, is a deal breaker.
So in the minds and spoken by thousands of posts of ProVari sycophants, anyone who vapes at even 1w more than them, is just some dumb 150w cloud chasing punk who shouldn't even be vaping.....yet those of us who bear these comments, in many cases do not look down on you, and how you Vape-- what we look down on is the nose-thumbing that those of us who are different in any way than you receive. Don't like being called elitist and snobbish? Then don't make those comments.
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