Quad parallels... Loving this.

[Number3124]

So, I just made my first two parallel coils. Now, I'm not sure if I just did things weird or what, but I made two dual parallels instead of just making a quad parallel. Damn these babies put out. I used 26agw kanthal wire. Six wraps on a 3mm screw driver gives me about 0.24 ohms after compressing and wicking. I was aiming for 0.2 even. I'm going to have to try five wraps next time.

They're a little sloppy looking right now in my Tugboat V2 clone though.


The coils in parallel don't line up quite right and they aren't quite straight. As for how they fire though?



About a quarter of a second after hitting the firing button. 26agw has almost no ramp up time compared to 24 or 22agw.

 

[Rommel]

I just did a dual coil build, parallel coils. Three strands of 28 gauge, 5 wraps 2.4mm ID and holy shit they fire fast. Never seen anything like that before on a mech.

 

[kingworm]

you should try quad super nano coils i did and within a second they light the juice on fire. not that thats a good thing but damn they heat up fast

 

[CDZVaper]

Question: Lets say I wrap 24 and 26 g Kanthol as a parallel coil, is there a way or formula/app that can tell me what it will read ahead of time?? It bothers me to waste wire, OCD thing...

 

[Number3124]

I just did a dual coil build, parallel coils. Three strands of 28 gauge, 5 wraps 2.4mm ID and holy shit they fire fast. Never seen anything like that before on a mech.

I know. It's awesome. You get the wattage of thicker wires, the coverage and flavor (IMHO) of higher ohm builds, and the ramp up time of thin wire.

Question: Lets say I wrap 24 and 26 g Kanthol as a parallel coil, is there a way or formula/app that can tell me what it will read ahead of time?? It bothers me to waste wire, OCD thing...

Just use steam engine and double the number of coils assuming you're using two strands per coil. It's the same as a quad coil.

 

[Hoekakes]

ive got basically the same build only thing different is its 2.5 mm id and more wraps .. cant remember lol i built it 3 weeks ago but i love it the flavor is awesome and the vapor is great ... i use it on a mech in a troll

 

[scarecrowjenkins]

I can't recall the last time i built something that wasn't a parallel coil of one sort or another haha. More surface area, less resistance = you can't NOT have a good time haha

 

[scarecrowjenkins]

This is a rather helpful vid with some good pointers for the parallel builds

 

[Phone Guy]

I do parallel builds in my drippers, when I drip, which isn't often anymore. I usually do parallel 28g or 26g, dual coils so I don't know if that counts as quad parallel or dual parallel coils?

Anyway... Either on my plume veil or mutation x, anything lower than 0.4 - 0.5 ohm (total load) is just too hot to vape for me... One of the builds was around 0.12-0.15 ohms and that's like vaping from a heater. Insanely HOT vapor... Unenjoyable.

 

[CDZVaper]

I've been doing some single coil builds using ribbon wire and I gotta say the vapor and flavor production seems to be better.
The coil Im using now is all Kanthol. Twisted ribbon 30g, twisted again with 26g then paralled with 26g. It reads about .35

My build didnt come out looking good but it could be the best coil I've built as far as vapor production goes. This one is sitting on a modified Tobh V2 and a 4Nine

 

[Zamazam]

Question: Lets say I wrap 24 and 26 g Kanthol as a parallel coil, is there a way or formula/app that can tell me what it will read ahead of time?? It bothers me to waste wire, OCD thing...

http://www.steam-engine.org/

 

[CDZVaper]

Thanks Zamazam, Im familiar with Steam engine but was uncertain about the more elaborate builds. For example, I had no clue what my build above would come out to but was wondering if there was a way to figure that out prior to building.

Or

Are you saying Steam engine can do that?

 

[CDZVaper]

I know. It's awesome. You get the wattage of thicker wires, the coverage and flavor (IMHO) of higher ohm builds, and the ramp up time of thin wire.



Just use steam engine and double the number of coils assuming you're using two strands per coil. It's the same as a quad coil.

Thanks, I misread this earlier. Something made me scroll up to reread it again, lol...

 

[Number3124]

Thanks, I misread this earlier. Something made me scroll up to reread it again, lol...

@Zamazam is the more proper way to do it in the context of the application. I'm just to lazy to figure out exactly how Steam-Engine's parallel set up works so just ad-hoc my way through it.

 

[CDZVaper]

@Zamazam is the more proper way to do it in the context of the application. I'm just to lazy to figure out exactly how Steam-Engine's parallel set up works so just ad-hoc my way through it.

Gotcha, I'll most likely wind up traveling down the ad hoc path myself, lol...

 

[Number3124]

Gotcha, I'll most likely wind up traveling down the ad hoc path myself, lol...

Just remember this. Number of strands per coil (S) times the apparent number of coils (A) will give you the actual number of coils (C)

So, for my builds right now, S=2, A=2, so S*A=2*2=4. Quads.

 

[CDZVaper]

Just remember this. Number of strands per coil (S) times the apparent number of coils (A) will give you the actual number of coils (C)

So, for my builds right now, S=2, A=2, so S*A=2*2=4. Quads.

So after I use the formula you showed, I would then proceed to use steam engine as I normally would?

Or am I off base there?

Thanks for your formula though. I literally wrote that down in my little book of vaping.

 

[CDZVaper]

Ok, I just noticed there is a twisted/parallel setting on steam-engine. Thanks all!

 

[Zamazam]

Ok, I just noticed there is a twisted/parallel setting on steam-engine. Thanks all!

Kind of a neat online tool. I use it a lot.

 

[CDZVaper]

Kind of a neat online tool. I use it a lot.

Yea it is. Ive used it quite a bit for single and dual coils but now that Im beginning to build more as a hobby, it is good to know that steam engine has a few different settings.