Regulated, dual 18650 mod - high watts, thoughts?

[BrattVapes]

Hello vape family!

In about a week on payday I'll be ordering a IPV 3 Li. I went back and forth, the IPV 3 or the new Praxis Mod coming out... Decided on the IPV as I've enjoyed my previous P4You device..


My questions are this.
The IPV 3 Li can fire up to 200 watts with the software upgrade. It is a dual 18650. So what batteries would you recommend? I currently have a few 25R's which I do not really feel do the job in my box mod. A couple EFest batteries that work but I keep them in a safe environment (never too low builds usually above .25)

I'd like to order two new sets of batteries that I can feel safe about using no matter what I've got going on with my new IPV.

I don't think I'll use the 200 watts... I hardly use the 70 I have available to me now, but would like the batteries I use in it to be able to handle the high watts without a problem.

I've used VTC5's and VTC4's. The 4's seemed great. Was thoroughly unimpressed with the 5. I have since got rid of the 5, and need to rewrap the 4s.

I've seen some people love their LG batteries. I've also seen these new batteries hitting the market with everyone raving about them called "SubOhm Cells" and haven't seen much here about them. They have a lot of battery junkies raving about their performance..

Anyways, thank you for the time took to read and post back here. Just want to make sure that with a new device I am being as safe and as confident as possible


Thanks,

Matt

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[conanthewarrior]

I do own some genuine VTC4's for my Sigelei 150, but honestly, I only ever used 150 watts ONCE and that was to test it.

The max it gets, and this is with real thick claptons, is 100 watts, and that is very, very rare.

If you are using normal micro or macro coils, you definitely will NOT need any more than 60-70 watts unless you like dry hits and a literally boiling vape, that spits boiling juice into your mouth with a wide drip tip.

I would honestly go For 25R's. These are OK up to around 116 watts near the end of their charge, at full capacity they are OK for 150 Watts in the sig 150, I know you are getting the IPV, but if it upsteps the voltage at 150W to around 8 V, the samsungs will work at full capacity.

I honestly never see you using much above 100 in the real world, when I ordered it I imagined I would use its full power a lot. I didn't. Turned out I didn't even use 100watts, that was only twice with claptons going mad, thy worked best at arond 70-80Watts.

If you do genuinely need the higher power though, the only genuine option is the Sony VTC4. If you are in the USA, buy them from Jon at Lii-on wholesale, as he only sells genuine batteries, and the sonys are highly counterfeited.

If your in the UK, try ordering them from Myepack. That is where I got mine, and they appear and work as a genuine one should work, used at 150W to vape with, but also tested numerous times by myself for like 10 minutes, just firing a low resistance dual coil build for 10 minutes on/ off so actually around 4 1/2-5 minutes battery use, but they worked fine and appear to be the real deal, and that shop does get recommended by most UK vapers, me included, although their customer service is lacking so I have found a new shop lol.

But seriously, once you actually have the device and realise how much 100 Watts is, you probably will just need the samsung 25R's and be perfectly safe.

Remember to keep these batteries married, and never let them divorce or cheat in another device. You want to mark them A1 and A2, second set B1 and B2, and so on.

Each time you charge, say the A1 was the left battery in the mod, next time it will be A2 that is the left battery. Swap them as one battery always draws a bit more than the other, and if you didn't swap it may potentially lead to one battery going too low, and failing a lot sooner than it should .

 

[Neunerball]

According to what I've read on the following thread, the VCT4 are the best choice.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/samsung-25r-help.122604/#post-642031

 

[conanthewarrior]

According to what I've read on the following thread, the VCT4 are the best choice.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/samsung-25r-help.122604/#post-642031

I agree if he plans to use it to its full wattage, probably worth getting a set so he can try it at that wattage, then realise its enough to power a small town and probably step down lol. If he does I would go for the gold old 25R's, if he is using up to 116 Watts. I don't know many that actually vape at 150 or 165w lol, Although I guess there are some that do.

 

[BrattVapes]

I agree if he plans to use it to its full wattage, probably worth getting a set so he can try it at that wattage, then realise its enough to power a small town and probably step down lol. If he does I would go for the gold old 25R's, if he is using up to 116 Watts. I don't know many that actually vape at 150 or 165w lol, Although I guess there are some that do.

Thank you both. Probably will get the 25r's. I haven't been happy with their performance in Mech mods, but that's alright.

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[conanthewarrior]

Thank you both. Probably will get the 25r's. I haven't been happy with their performance in Mech mods, but that's alright.

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You have to remember a mech is a completely different beast to a regulated device though, it has no chip, is unregulated, and if you build it wrong, bye bye battery. They are only good to down to 0.3 max really, a genuine VTC4 would be much better in a mech if you enjoy using them. I have my first on the way myself, should be here soon as it was shipped on the 20th. Got a good quality brass nemesis clone.

 

[BrattVapes]

You have to remember a mech is a completely different beast to a regulated device though, it has no chip, is unregulated, and if you build it wrong, bye bye battery. They are only good to down to 0.3 max really, a genuine VTC4 would be much better in a mech if you enjoy using them. I have my first on the way myself, should be here soon as it was shipped on the 20th. Got a good quality brass nemesis clone.

Yeah like I said I've enjoyed my 4's. They need re wrapping so I can't use them right now. Stuck with efests

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[Mike H.]

Well said advice ,Conan...Cheers.

 

[NemesisVaper]

I've used VTC4 and 25R in my Nemesis. To be honest the VTC4 were extremely unimpressive. Wouldn't have them again even if I was given them. They were genuine cells from a reputable dealer.

No cell exists that can power the IPV3 Li at 200W and be within the continuous amp rating. 32A at the cutoff voltage. Either VTC4 or 25R would be the best you could do. You'd be 2A over on the VTC4 and be relying on the pulse rating of a 25R. 25R will do 45A for 5 seconds and 30A for 6 seconds.

If you're not using the full wattage then grab a calculator. Type in the max wattage you'll be using and divide by 6.4, then times the result by 1.1. That will give you the worst case amp draw, taking into account the board being less than 100% efficient.

 

[Discobob]

I upgraded it to 200 watts, threw a really dumb build on it and hit it one time.......it was actually really intimadating and I didn't like it at all.....call me a wuss but that much heat and vape was just a little uneasy feeling I guess. Love the mod though you won't regret it, it has been 100% flawless

 

[NemesisVaper]

Aye, you need the build to match for 200W.very heavy gauge wire or mad Clapton coils or something. Thick wire and lots of wraps.

 

[BrattVapes]

Alright, thank you both. @NemesisVaper @Discobob
So between the VTC4 and the 25R, I suppose I will be buying 4 25R's.


Does anyone have experience with the "SubOhm Cells"???

They are said to be a 35 "continuous" amp discharge and a 2800 mAh capacity.

They can be seen here, as well as many other places, are they just rewraps?

http://www.kidneypuncher.com/subohmcell-18650-35amp-2800-mah-battery/


According to Kidney Puncher they are said to have outperformed the VTC5's according to the test results that they proudly link in the description. Thinking of maybe buying two 25R's and then two SubOhm's just to check them out, and compare. Although I am nowhere near the battery 'geeks' compared to others, I wouldn't be able to decipher anything besides the obvious performance I can observe.

So anyone else played around with them???

 

[Jon@LiionWholesale]

Alright, thank you both. @NemesisVaper @Discobob
So between the VTC4 and the 25R, I suppose I will be buying 4 25R's.


Does anyone have experience with the "SubOhm Cells"???

They are said to be a 35 "continuous" amp discharge and a 2800 mAh capacity.

They can be seen here, as well as many other places, are they just rewraps?

http://www.kidneypuncher.com/subohmcell-18650-35amp-2800-mah-battery/


According to Kidney Puncher they are said to have outperformed the VTC5's according to the test results that they proudly link in the description. Thinking of maybe buying two 25R's and then two SubOhm's just to check them out, and compare. Although I am nowhere near the battery 'geeks' compared to others, I wouldn't be able to decipher anything besides the obvious performance I can observe.

So anyone else played around with them???

They're overpriced. Not horrible but not as good as the 25R and much more expensive. You can actually see that in the kidneypuncher tests - their first sample batch was very good but later batches weren't.

 

[BrattVapes]

They're overpriced. Not horrible but not as good as the 25R and much more expensive. You can actually see that in the kidneypuncher tests - their first sample batch was very good but later batches weren't.

Alright! Thank you very much! Any chance you have a code for us VU users?

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[conanthewarrior]

I've used VTC4 and 25R in my Nemesis. To be honest the VTC4 were extremely unimpressive. Wouldn't have them again even if I was given them. They were genuine cells from a reputable dealer.

No cell exists that can power the IPV3 Li at 200W and be within the continuous amp rating. 32A at the cutoff voltage. Either VTC4 or 25R would be the best you could do. You'd be 2A over on the VTC4 and be relying on the pulse rating of a 25R. 25R will do 45A for 5 seconds and 30A for 6 seconds.

If you're not using the full wattage then grab a calculator. Type in the max wattage you'll be using and divide by 6.4, then times the result by 1.1. That will give you the worst case amp draw, taking into account the board being less than 100% efficient.

I have heard the 25R pulse rating for 5 second thing before, but I genuinely thought pulse ratings were milliseconds so useless to vapers?

Has the 25R genuinely got a 5 second 45W pulse rating? If so, its fine for ALL of my mods, as I only do 5 second pulls (Although cloud chasing I up that to 7).

 

[NemesisVaper]

Pulse ratings are what ever the manufacturer decides are safe. Definitely lists tests in the 25R spec sheet. 95A or 75A for 0.5 sec, 45A for 5sec and 30A for 6 seconds. It's unclear if Samsung actually sell them to be used like that or if it's just a test they've done to prove the cell can handle sudden surges from snatch loading etc.

 

[BrattVapes]

Pulse ratings are what ever the manufacturer decides are safe. Definitely lists tests in the 25R spec sheet. 95A or 75A for 0.5 sec, 45A for 5sec and 30A for 6 seconds. It's unclear if Samsung actually sell them to be used like that or if it's just a test they've done to prove the cell can handle sudden surges from snatch loading etc.

Well I'm glad the 25R will handle what I decide to throw at it
My 25 gets hot in my single 18650 IPV now.. But this things beat to heck so I expect it's not as efficient.

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[NemesisVaper]

Well I'm glad the 25R will handle what I decide to throw at it
My 25 gets hot in my single 18650 IPV now.. But this things beat to heck so I expect it's not as efficient.

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25R are awesome.

Not sure what could be the issue to get it to heat up. I'm being cautious because one persons hot is another persons warm. For me hot is when you touch a cell and it instills worry right away. Wouldn't say it was when you can't bear to touch the battery but on the closer end to that. A bit of warmth isn't anything to worry about. Could be from the atty and board too, as mods are pretty enclosed even with good venting.

 

[BrattVapes]

25R are awesome.

Not sure what could be the issue to get it to heat up. I'm being cautious because one persons hot is another persons warm. For me hot is when you touch a cell and it instills worry right away. Wouldn't say it was when you can't bear to touch the battery but on the closer end to that. A bit of warmth isn't anything to worry about. Could be from the atty and board too, as mods are pretty enclosed even with good venting.

Yeah it's just warm to the touch, like if 10 was burning and 1 room temp is a 6.5/7

Of course that's at 50 watts 7.1 volts..fused Clapton

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[Jon@LiionWholesale]

Alright! Thank you very much! Any chance you have a code for us VU users?

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Sorry no, we don't mess around with discount codes other than in special cases, prefer to just put our lowest prices on the site with no gimmicks.

I have heard the 25R pulse rating for 5 second thing before, but I genuinely thought pulse ratings were milliseconds so useless to vapers?

Has the 25R genuinely got a 5 second 45W pulse rating? If so, its fine for ALL of my mods, as I only do 5 second pulls (Although cloud chasing I up that to 7).

Yes pulse ratings are a real thing. They're worth keeping in mind but relying on them takes away a bit of safety because what if for example the button gets stuck? If your battery can handle a continuous load then it just drains the battery and all is good but if you're operating significantly above the continuous rating then it could be an issue even though in normal pulsing usage it's fine.

 

[NemesisVaper]

Sorry no, we don't mess around with discount codes other than in special cases, prefer to just put our lowest prices on the site with no gimmicks.



Yes pulse ratings are a real thing. They're worth keeping in mind but relying on them takes away a bit of safety because what if for example the button gets stuck? If your battery can handle a continuous load then it just drains the battery and all is good but if you're operating significantly above the continuous rating then it could be an issue even though in normal pulsing usage it's fine.

Definitely. Nobody should ever build for pulse on a mech. Unfortunately with the slew of high wattage regulated devices from China and no way to power them within the CDR if any cell I often wonder if I'm safer with a 25R or a VTC4. The VTC 4 at 200W is a couple amps over CDR but is by the looks of it actually conservatively rated so I'm not happy but Ok with using them. The 25R pulse ratings make me feel the same, not happy but Ok with using them in series at 200W.

I much prefer 25R in a mech as they perform better for me, so I have plenty of them and would go for those over the Sony.

Everyone feels different try though so I don't blame anyone for not agreeing and not being comfortable using such mods. Not that I Vape regularly at 200W, as even with a metal heavy build, it's a bit much for me. My XCube 2 hasn't even been fired at 160W (maximum) yet

 

[conanthewarrior]

Definitely. Nobody should ever build for pulse on a mech. Unfortunately with the slew of high wattage regulated devices from China and no way to power them within the CDR if any cell I often wonder if I'm safer with a 25R or a VTC4. The VTC 4 at 200W is a couple amps over CDR but is by the looks of it actually conservatively rated so I'm not happy but Ok with using them. The 25R pulse ratings make me feel the same, not happy but Ok with using them in series at 200W.

I much prefer 25R in a mech as they perform better for me, so I have plenty of them and would go for those over the Sony.

Everyone feels different try though so I don't blame anyone for not agreeing and not being comfortable using such mods. Not that I Vape regularly at 200W, as even with a metal heavy build, it's a bit much for me. My XCube 2 hasn't even been fired at 160W (maximum) yet

How is the Xcube 2? I don't know wether to get this or the IPV. I am leaning towards the Smok though, even though I got a crap tank from them lol. I just want to know the chipset it runs.

 

[conanthewarrior]

It also seems currently the best battery is the 25R. It is all I am going to buy from now on.

 

[BrattVapes]

How is the Xcube 2? I don't know wether to get this or the IPV. I am leaning towards the Smok though, even though I got a crap tank from them lol. I just want to know the chipset it runs.

I'm deciding on a tank... Almost set on the Smok TFV4 (something like that) is that the tank? I hear great things..

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[NemesisVaper]

XCube 2 is ok. Well built. The blue tooth is a gimmick and I've stopped using the app now the novelty has worn off.

It has its quirks. Latest firmware asks "new coil yes/no" even for a Kanthal build and locks in the resistance, which would be fine if it had the brains to consistently detect when have changed coils... It also consistently reads low so a 0.15 ohm coil shows up as 0.11. Not a massive inaccuracy but down that low it's a relatively large % of the total resistance.

 

[BrattVapes]

So ... After watching some videos again, I have started to second guess myself on the IPV 3 Li...

Is there any other regulated device (dual 18650) that the Vape Family here would reccomend? Maybe with another chip, like a DNA, maybe?

My IPV currently in my possession was great, but I am aware of the drawbacks it presents as innovation goes when you compare it to DNA chips. Is there a device for around $90 that would be comparable, with a different chip?? (Not a YiHi)

Thanks

 

[MercuryVaper]

So ... After watching some videos again, I have started to second guess myself on the IPV 3 Li...

Is there any other regulated device (dual 18650) that the Vape Family here would reccomend? Maybe with another chip, like a DNA, maybe?

My IPV currently in my possession was great, but I am aware of the drawbacks it presents as innovation goes when you compare it to DNA chips. Is there a device for around $90 that would be comparable, with a different chip?? (Not a YiHi)

Thanks

Just curious what videos you watched that made you second guess the Ipv 3Li. I don't have one yet, but so far I'm thinking this is the one for me. I've never had a P4u device. I've seen to much bs with them, but this one seemed to have everything ironed out.

 

[BrattVapes]

Just curious what videos you watched that made you second guess the Ipv 3Li. I don't have one yet, but so far I'm thinking this is the one for me. I've never had a P4u device. I've seen to much bs with them, but this one seemed to have everything ironed out.

Well, really just two reviews on YouTube from reputable people, the videos I have watched before, however as it gets closer to payday I am just re watching things, and you start to pick up on some of the little things you tend to overlook the first time. Things you didn't think were a big deal, or opinions being injected where you start to think they have the right POV... I'm just second guessing.

Of course after I posted this, kept looking at VU and find so many positive reviews about it, I'm sure I'll be happy with it.

The way the YiHi chip's read the resistance and don't monitor it until you fire it again seems sort of quirky to me when you compare it to a DNA chip that will constantly monitor the coil resistance for changes as the coil warms up with use. It's also nice to know in other instances.

 

[NemesisVaper]

P4U are a bunch of dodgy cowboys in my opinion. However, the board in the Li is very good.

The cheapest alternative would be in my opinion an XCube 2. Temp control works, ni200 and Ti, with a SS option on the way. There are some gimmicky features but they can be ignored.

My Sigelei 100W is still my favorite regulated device. Screw temp control.

Saying that though, I much prefer adjusting my wattage with a screwdriver, wire and a blow torch ;-)

 

[MercuryVaper]

My Sigelei 100W is still my favorite regulated device. Screw temp control.

Tbh, I'm not sure I need another tc device, I just get them to have the choice. I find myself reverting to power on most of them. I'm not ruling out a straight power only. I just find the prices on the power only have stayed higher then I would have thought when all these tc devices are available.

 

[BrattVapes]

P4U are a bunch of dodgy cowboys in my opinion. However, the board in the Li is very good.

The cheapest alternative would be in my opinion an XCube 2. Temp control works, ni200 and Ti, with a SS option on the way. There are some gimmicky features but they can be ignored.

My Sigelei 100W is still my favorite regulated device. Screw temp control.

Saying that though, I much prefer adjusting my wattage with a screwdriver, wire and a blow torch ;-)

Haha!

I doubt I will ever get into temp control. There's just some things better left to those who feel a need, I don't.

Every experience I've had with someone who owns a Sigelei is always 100% positive, they absolutely love their device, never a bad thing to say about them, and they keep going back to them when they want the new devices.

With that said, I had/have some gripes with my IPV Mini 2 and I probably wouldn't get another P4U device if those who have tried multiple of them hadn't all said the things they do about it, as far as build quality, and the chip go.

I have thought about the XCube 2, the lights seem like a waste of battery to me, and I know you can turn it off.. The device just doesn't seem like it would be comfortable in my hands. I've thought about the Sigelei however. Don't really need the 165 watts, much less the 200. But I felt if I got the IPV 3 Li that I wouldn't have to purchase a new device for a good long while..

It's hard for me to purchase a device with the knowledge that it is already outdated, this IPV has everything I can possibly need for a long time. It's hard for me to purchase devices as it is, I'm on a budget. Loans and school really don't do you any favors when you're just trying to survive ha.

 

[smacksy]

I really like P4U products as I've had no problems with the IPV3, IPV4, and the latest mod I bought, the IPVD2 (75w single 18650)
I liked the V4 so much I got another one in short order..
Despite what others might say about P4U I have had no issues with any of thier mods...just sayin

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[NemesisVaper]

Definitely like P4U mods, just think they're a bit stupid sometimes. Touch sensor, disabled touch sensor, touch sensor. Series balance charger, problems, charging removed etc. They seem like they're chucking components at their mods and seeing what sticks, using us to beta test. All mod makers really treat us like beta testers just they seem the worst for it. Still like the mods though. Really like the looks of the IPV3 series, way more than the 4 for me.

It is strange that the older Sigelei mods haven't dropped in price. They are worth the money even at current retail imo, love mine it's ace.

I was worried when I got my XCube 2, it's very heavy and the firing bar thing looked strange. Nothing for me to worry about though, the weight makes it feel quality and it's very comfortable in either orientation (bar in your palm or in your fingers. Got mine for $50 ish from Gearbest as they had a pre sale.

I've gone and ordered a Klooper Mini now. 60W single 18650 with temp control too. They're a subsidiary of Smok, and the board is by the looks based in the Cubes board. Looking forward to getting it, has the same good looks and metal construction, just a bit more pocketable.

Don't get caught up in the endless cycle of upgrades and whiz bang dodads they're putting on the latest mods. For me if it works well, lasts a long time and vapes, it's never out of date I fight that urge but I'm not always successful.

Sigelei 150W TC looks good. Wasn't keen on the raised up section the 510 sits on but it's growing on me. Don't know how much you guys in the US can get it for though. If all else fails you can always come over to the dark side. Tube style mech or a nice parallel box. Timeless. Mine all have temp control. When I press the button the coils get hot and when I let go they cool down ;-)

 

[BrattVapes]

Definitely would have bought a different regulated device in hindsight, when I purchased my IPV Mini 2. But it was my first variable mod, it was inexpensive, and it replaced my first mech mod ever. So for the time, it was great. I think it is just older, and I am sure P4U has only gotten better with time. Thank you @smacksy

I am sure it's just my case that issues have arose with the Mini. It is what it is, it happens, with everything. Excited to get the 3. I'm looking forward to having the mAh to get me through most of the day with two batteries, even if in series.

And @NemesisVaper I absolutely agree. I just want to get one device that I can use and continue using for a long while. Would be neat to see if the 3 Li will get a firmware update sometime that allows TC for kanthal and Ti.

Bottom line, ordering this guy up friday, cannot wait to get her. I want silver I think, but the best deal I have found so far from a reputable dealer is black only. Is what it is! Now I just need to figure out what tank to get, although I think UncleRJ just sold me on a Lemo 2. Going to get 4 new 25R's for her, fresh start on a fresh mod. Should be all set up for quite a while after this string of purchases.

Huge thanks to everyone who has taken the time to give their input, I appreciate all of it.

 

[smacksy]

Definitely like P4U mods, just think they're a bit stupid sometimes. Touch sensor, disabled touch sensor, touch sensor. Series balance charger, problems, charging removed etc. They seem like they're chucking components at their mods and seeing what sticks, using us to beta test. All mod makers really treat us like beta testers just they seem the worst for it. Still like the mods though. Really like the looks of the IPV3 series, way more than the 4 for me.

It is strange that the older Sigelei mods haven't dropped in price. They are worth the money even at current retail imo, love mine it's ace.

I was worried when I got my XCube 2, it's very heavy and the firing bar thing looked strange. Nothing for me to worry about though, the weight makes it feel quality and it's very comfortable in either orientation (bar in your palm or in your fingers. Got mine for $50 ish from Gearbest as they had a pre sale.

I've gone and ordered a Klooper Mini now. 60W single 18650 with temp control too. They're a subsidiary of Smok, and the board is by the looks based in the Cubes board. Looking forward to getting it, has the same good looks and metal construction, just a bit more pocketable.

Don't get caught up in the endless cycle of upgrades and whiz bang dodads they're putting on the latest mods. For me if it works well, lasts a long time and vapes, it's never out of date I fight that urge but I'm not always successful.

Sigelei 150W TC looks good. Wasn't keen on the raised up section the 510 sits on but it's growing on me. Don't know how much you guys in the US can get it for though. If all else fails you can always come over to the dark side. Tube style mech or a nice parallel box. Timeless. Mine all have temp control. When I press the button the coils get hot and when I let go they cool down ;-)

I like IPV4 better than the V3 for the instant battery access thanks to the "taco shell" batt cover..The V3 had those pesty little screws holding the batt door and it was in no time I did a magnet swap ..works great.. its a good dependable dual batt mod..but I do like the V4 better..but that's just me I reckon, lol

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[BrattVapes]

I like IPV4 better than the V3 for the instant battery access thanks to the "taco shell" batt cover..The V3 had those pesty little screws holding the batt door and it was in no time I did a magnet swap ..works great.. its a good dependable dual batt mod..but I do like the V4 better..but that's just me I reckon, lol

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The IPV 3 Li is what I'm getting, and they addressed the screw issue, it is a magnetic sliding door now, much much nicer and easier.

 

[smacksy]

Good deal...I got my V3 back when they were first released...still a good mod with plenty of what it takes to blow awesome clouds..
Batts last a few days on a single charge too...might post how you like your new V3Li after you try it out...thx

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[BrattVapes]

Good deal...I got my V3 back when they were first released...still a good mod with plenty of what it takes to blow awesome clouds..
Batts last a few days on a single charge too...might post how you like your new V3Li after you try it out...thx

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Definitely plan on it. Seems I would most likely get it sometime middle of next week.

 

[BrattVapes]

One quick question for those who have an IPV 3 or an IPV 3 Li... Silver or black?

I've owned several black mods, and my box mod is deep blue.

 

[MercuryVaper]

One quick question for those who have an IPV 3 or an IPV 3 Li... Silver or black?

I've owned several black mods, and my box mod is deep blue.

I'm looking too. What's the best deal on 3 Li you've found so far? I think black can be a bit scratchy, but it looks best to me.

 

[smacksy]

One quick question for those who have an IPV 3 or an IPV 3 Li... Silver or black?

I've owned several black mods, and my box mod is deep blue.

Well you decide... I have both the silver
and black IPV3' s seen here on the left..I think the silver is a little better looking.. And scratches aren't as apparent as like on the black mod...

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[BrattVapes]

I'm looking too. What's the best deal on 3 Li you've found so far? I think black can be a bit scratchy, but it looks best to me.

So far I've found some sites with great prices ($65!!) but out of stock, go figure. Found this https://101vape.com/vvvw-box-mods/6...-box-mod-by-pioneer4you.html#/76-color-silver

They only have silver in stock, which I am leaning towards.. $83 free shipping. Still looking, if you find cheaper post it up, I will do the same!

 

[BrattVapes]

Thanks @smacksy

I think I like the silver. Looks cleaner.

 

[BrattVapes]

So far I've found some sites with great prices ($65!!) but out of stock, go figure. Found this https://101vape.com/vvvw-box-mods/6...-box-mod-by-pioneer4you.html#/76-color-silver

They only have silver in stock, which I am leaning towards.. $83 free shipping. Still looking, if you find cheaper post it up, I will do the same!

Found one for $65, free shipping, uncertain of the site, they only have black.

http://www.vaporrange.com/Pioneer4You-IPV3-Li-165W-Box-Mod-p/pioneer4you-ipv3-li.htm

 

[BrattVapes]

@MercuryVaper This is the site I think I'll be ordering from, as I am in CA, it will get to me Monday at the latest, free shipping, $71.

http://www.ecigaretteempire.com/ipv3-li-p/ipv3li.htm

 

[MercuryVaper]

So far this is the best safest deal I've found. Authorized distributor. And free protector case, free shipping. They are the warranty service also for p4u. I know I'm going to buy only from authorized dist.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281759746745

Found one for $65, free shipping, uncertain of the site, they only have black.

http://www.vaporrange.com/Pioneer4You-IPV3-Li-165W-Box-Mod-p/pioneer4you-ipv3-li.htm

 

[MercuryVaper]

@MercuryVaper This is the site I think I'll be ordering from, as I am in CA, it will get to me Monday at the latest, free shipping, $71.

http://www.ecigaretteempire.com/ipv3-li-p/ipv3li.htm

Hmmm, forgot about that deal. I think I'll shoot them an email to see if they are Authorized dist.

 

[BrattVapes]

Hmmm, forgot about that deal. I think I'll shoot them an email to see if they are Authorized dist.

That would be great, please share the response.

 

[MercuryVaper]

That would be great, please share the response.

Just did it. Probably won't here back till tomorrow. I'll get back here with response.

 

[MercuryVaper]

Reply from Ecigarettempire:
yes we are
our website is listed on the homepage of the factory, please check it out