Ok so I been researching a lot and wonder if this is normal. On a regulated mod ohms really doesn't matter. I recently upgraded from an ego to the Vaporesso Revenger X. I'm using a Smok TFV12 big baby price tank. It uses the V8 baby coils. I have been using the T8 octupple coil. I have 2 LG Hg2 3000mah 20a batteries. Purchased from Element Vape. Its my understanding that regulated mods are mainly wired in series. So double volts but same amp same mah? Im only getting about 120 six second puffs at 75 watts. Is this normal? Or should I be ecpecting more? I guess I expected 2 3000mah batteries to provide 6000mah. With my Evod II twist 1600mah and single 1.8 ohm kanger ssocc coil I could easily get 300 or more 8 second puffs. I never counted but I know it was waaay over 120. Am I expecting to much or is this normal for a sub ohm device especially using an octuple coil. Did I get the right batteries? Or should I get a different kind? If it's normal then thats fine. Fully charged on nitecore i2 before first use. Just need to know if device or batteries are malfunctioning.
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Revenger X only 120 puffs 2 lg hg2s?
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It's the watts with regulated mods not the ohms or voltage.
First we need to know what wattage you're vaping at. Second, I didn't have any luck with LG batteries living up to their advertising.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
75 watts. I think I did mention that. If not sorry.
I apologize. I missed it.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/wts-wtt-aspex-performance-coils.434798/
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I would suspect the batteries and I am thinking they might be fake. Just a guess you know? Try another set of KNOWN GOOD batteries as a test and try these cells in another MOD for comparison purposes. Good Luck
I would suspect the batteries and I am thinking they might be fake. Just a guess you know? Try another set of KNOWN GOOD batteries as a test and try these cells in another MOD for comparison purposes. Good Luck
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Six seconds is the longer end of a puff.
Mine less than 3 seconds each.
I never pay attention to the puff counter but if I took 240 three second puffs it should use close to the same battery life as taking 120 six second puffs.
I think my dual 18650 mods would be close to needing a recharge after 240 three second 75 watt puffs.
it may be the longer puff duration.
Mine less than 3 seconds each.
I never pay attention to the puff counter but if I took 240 three second puffs it should use close to the same battery life as taking 120 six second puffs.
I think my dual 18650 mods would be close to needing a recharge after 240 three second 75 watt puffs.
it may be the longer puff duration.
I don't have another set. Yet. But I have 2 Sony VTC6 on the way from illumn.com which I hear was good for authentic batteries. And not another mod to test with unfortunately. Thanks for the help. I tried to do hours of reasearching and learning before needing to bother people with dumn questions. But I was just at a loss.
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I would suspect that you’re taking about 3 times longer a puff th An I do.. so if we take the 120 multiplied by 3 your sitting at about 360 puffs.
Still sounds on the low side of what I would expect.
Are the cells from a reputable source? Are they old? Being fully charged?
Still sounds on the low side of what I would expect.
Are the cells from a reputable source? Are they old? Being fully charged?
Thanks! I mainly needed to know while still in warranty if either mod or batteries defective. If thats normal then I'm good with that. A second set of batteries to swap out will do just fine in that case. I know keep the 2 sets separate and keep them married. No cheaters here. Heh!
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Sony VCT 6 will hold it's voltage up longer throughout the discharge than HG2. Doesn't necessarily mean you will get more puffs. Have you checked to see if a FW update helps this situation? Also, having a touch screen vs buttons will use more power, and have you adjusted the brightness to lowest you can and still see it, as well as lower the duration(if it has it) that the screen is lit when idle?
LGs bought from element vape. Brand new. Fully charged on nitecore i2 before first use and used about 3 cycles now.
Have not checked firmware. Screen is set to lower brightness and 30 second timeout.
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Here's the manual
https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/2191257/downloads/user_manuals/Revenger_X_user_manual.pdf
Looks like timeout can be set to 3 secs, and then it goes to clock for 15 secs. Can turn clock off ?
https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/2191257/downloads/user_manuals/Revenger_X_user_manual.pdf
Looks like timeout can be set to 3 secs, and then it goes to clock for 15 secs. Can turn clock off ?
Good to know. Ideally 5 seconds should be sufficient. Will check for firmware when I get around to a pc. Only internet I have at moment is my phone.
I will try that. Didn't really even think of a clock or screen draining that much power. But I do turn the device off completely. I usually take about 5 or 6 puffs then power off. Then half hour later turn back on and repeat.
So far it doesn't seem to change too much but will wait till it needs recharged to give full puff count. Rather than start a new thread any suggestions on authentic sites for batteries and coils? Cheapest prices with shipping is great to. Specifically the Smok V8 baby coils and Vaporesso NRG coils. Please U.S. based sellers only.
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Liion Wholesale or if like you say, illumn and I've bought from them with no authenticity problems.
I don't know about coils, or if coils + batteries to save on shipping. When I bought sub ohm coils I just got them from the cheapest reputable place.
Breazy.com has all that in one place.
I don't know about coils, or if coils + batteries to save on shipping. When I bought sub ohm coils I just got them from the cheapest reputable place.
Breazy.com has all that in one place.
I just bought some nrg coils from Breazy.Com
One thing to note the 3000 mah figure for the HG2 is for a deeper discharge than many regulated mods allow. Their low battery cutoff is higher than the test parameters for the HG2. Mooch has tested the HG2 and found it's mah ratings to be very close to published.
Some of the newer HG2 cells he tested are a bit lower though and marked differently. But he cannot say they are counterfeit...
Some of the newer HG2 cells he tested are a bit lower though and marked differently. But he cannot say they are counterfeit...
I do at least 6 sec draws. But do not vape over about 35 watts or so.
I sometimes time out 10 sec limit on the Subtank mini.
I also do 6 sec or so on the Wasp Nano on a Pico Squeeze.
I sometimes time out 10 sec limit on the Subtank mini.
I also do 6 sec or so on the Wasp Nano on a Pico Squeeze.
Man the smokes must have shot out my lungs. I can barely hold my breath for 6 seconds. The puff timer on my mod averages 2.3 seconds on my big pulls. 1.6 on my average pulls. I can cloud a room very quickly at those parameters. But I do vape at 80 watts mostly. I also vape similarly to The Cromwell when I vape my Wasp, 26 agw ss, parallel 9 wraps at 37.5 watts on my Inbox. Still only 2 sec. pulls though.
I smoked 1+ PAD of full strength cigs for 40+ years. Mostly cowboy killers.
And yes I am apparently blessed with good lung genes.
My last physical the doctor had trouble believing that I had smoked as long as I had.
However I only vape warm vapes not hot.
Could not handle hot vapes.
And yes I am apparently blessed with good lung genes.
My last physical the doctor had trouble believing that I had smoked as long as I had.
However I only vape warm vapes not hot.
Could not handle hot vapes.
At 75W and .15nohm coil the current is 22.36A . That exceeds the max discharge of the battery, so if all specs are accurate 8-9 min is normal.The higher the wattage ,the faster the drain......I am a little rusty in my electronics and there are other factors involved
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however the battery output voltage under a 75W load will be more like 3.6 volts or lower with an HG2.
However I think the OP had a dual cell mod?
But still 75W is pretty much all a 20A HG2 cell will push and will not push that for very long.
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Yeah, That calc says 3.35v hits the topper. When I changed from HG2 to 30Q I noticed a tab more run time. Now I'm using mostly VTC6 for 18650's.
Been putting off buying batteries. I need some so I can marry them to the mods in rotation cuz I don't want to move them from mod to mod
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A common mistake with Mechs is to figure the wattage on 4.2 V and the ohms of the coil.
For an accurate wattage voltage must be checked at the coil terminals while firing.
with a .1 coil someone claims to be doing 175W or so.
When in reality it is more like 125W with a fully charged battery.
If they have a good battery
Check the pulse graphs Mooch has to see what I am talking about.
For an accurate wattage voltage must be checked at the coil terminals while firing.
with a .1 coil someone claims to be doing 175W or so.
When in reality it is more like 125W with a fully charged battery.
If they have a good battery
Check the pulse graphs Mooch has to see what I am talking about.
Yeah, That calc says 3.35v hits the topper. When I changed from HG2 to 30Q I noticed a tab more run time. Now I'm using mostly VCT6 for 18650's.
Been putting off buying batteries. I need some so I can marry them to the mods in rotation cuz I don't want to move them from mod to mod
I got some VTC5A's and tried in my Pico squeeze.
Too hot went back to my 25R's
Gave the 5A's to my grandson.
I was using HG2's in my regulated mods for 3+ years. Recycled them and got 30Q's.
Better runtime but the HG2's were 3+ years old too
Good enuf for most purposes unless using a very high or Low coil.
Using high ohms go closer to 4V.
Using silly low ohms go closer to 3.5 or less with most batteries.
No actually I think I just have large lungs. Way way back in high school I could hold my breath longer underwater than the 30 other people in class. I didn't practice or anything. I can smoke a whole menthol cigarette in about a minute and a half. Even after 20 years of smoking and switching finally to vape it doesn't seem to have taken a heavy toll on my lungs thank goodness. I'm using 12mg nic to. I tried 6mg when i switched from a single ssocc kanger 1.8 ohm coil with 24mg nic knowing a sub ohm tank especially with an octupple coil would massively increase vapor production but 6mg just didn't cut it so upped to 12. I don't vape for clouds or competition. I vape for 1. Cheaper than cigs and healthier. 2. Nicotine helps my anxiety. I stll smoke a few menthols when I'm having a 9 or 10 scale panic attack. But a pack last me a month or more. Heh. By no means am I trying to brag. Just blessed with large lung capacity and suffer from anxiety.
Its a Vaporesso Revenger X dual battery mod. Does that mean the amp pull is being split between the 2 batteries? I'm still tring to get a grasp on all this.
Not really split per sie but halved because of 2X the voltage if batteries in series.
For any particular wattage if you double the voltage you half the current.
2 batteries in series doubles the voltage and the current is the same in both of them.
Ohms law stuff.
Did a test with a topside duel and an Aegis legend: Topside with .14 coil....Set on 75W,voltage (set by mod) 3.22v - 3.2v, current max is 23.7A. On Aegis with .15 coil voltage is 3.3v - 3.6v, current max 21A.
current through batteries in series is the same through both batteries.
Hmm 181 5 second puffs. Well I guess 120 x 6 or 7 second puffs is reasonable in my opinion. I believe the batteries were older to. One seems to discharge quicker and charges faster leading me to belive one battery is older and not holding a full charge. I've rotated them in position in the mod each time. I think the VTC6s i ordered from illumn will probably solve this issue fully.
Mechs and regulated are different.
How you calculate current, etc.
But as a general rule a good 20A rated 18650 is good for about 75W per cell.
However they last longer at lower wattages.
The Mah of a cell will vary a lot from a 10A draw to a 25A draw.
The higher the current the less mah a cell will produce.
Just the nature of most batteries Li types included.
Batteries should always be paired in dual battery mods.
they should have approximately the same number of charge/discharge cycles and ALWAYS be the same brand/model.
If one is weaker than the other it will get overworked and COULD lead to a venting event or at least poor mod performance.
If one consistently charges much faster than the other it indicates they are not well matched for dual cell use.
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If you're charging them in the mod, unbalanced charging could be a cause. Do you have an external charger? Can get a good 2 bay for about 20, 4 bay about 30-35
Well they both came shipped from Element Vape when I ordered the mod brand new. Guess I just got one newer produced battery and one been sitting on a shelf a while. Hopefully from what I hear about illumn I'll get 2 same batch same time manufacturered vtc6s.
No. Nitecore new i2 verified authentic.
In close to 4 years of buying batteries from illumn I have only had 1 battery problem.
1 HG2 failed pretty fast (1 month?) and would not charge.
That is out of 3 dozen or so batteries...