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[ProlineVaper]

Edwin, there’s a great channel on YT called China In Focus - NTD. They quote Epoch Times so they may be related. Their virus news coverage on the “CCP virus” is excellent, imho.

Good article, thanks!

I subscribe to China in Focus and have NTD website on my home screen right next to The Epoch Times. And yes they are sister companies.

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[Rhianne]

My supervisor is really concerned, but the policy doesn’t match how she felt.... I look that up and thank you...

We’re a VU family, imho. Especially with the self isolating going on now!
Just take care of yourself. You don’t want to get worse sick just because your boss is stubborn!!

Oh, hot tea helps too. My weird cough was really bugging me, so I was having to drink tea constantly.

 

[Rhianne]

I subscribe to China in Focus and have NTD website on my home screen right next to The Epoch Times. And yes they are sister companies.

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Are you in love with Tiffany? She’s such a good newscaster!
It’s funny but they’re like the best place for news now, imho!

 

[ProlineVaper]

Are you in love with Tiffany? She’s such a good newscaster!
It’s funny but they’re like the best place for news now, imho!

Some of the only uncensored media not politically driven news media in the world anymore. Even here in the US, the vaping scene definitely drove that one home for a lot of us!

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[SteveS45]

Steve you lack a lot of social grace. Does your local police department have you on watch? If not they really should.

You don't vote so STFU already you two faced ECF Spy~!

 

[SteveS45]

I have tried taking him off of ignore a few times

You lying POS you seem to post a comment after every one I do even when it is 6 hours after the last post of the thread. You are STALKING me you sad lying dog. I hope you read this because you derail threads with what you think is jokes or maybe your own sick sense of humor. Just look at your posts 2-6 minutes after mine?

 

[The Cromwell]

The AF could just turn it into a parking lot, as they say. There’s no real need to poison the earth, imho.

You’re right, there’s so much bad stuff coming out of there!

I am reminded of the movie War Games. China has lots of ICBM's.
MAD

 

[SteveS45]

The AF could just turn it into a parking lot, as they say. There’s no real need to poison the earth, imho.

You’re right, there’s so much bad stuff coming out of there!

 

[The Cromwell]

And if anyone thinks that other nations besides China would not join in against the USA if the ball is opened, guess again.

 

[SteveS45]

 

[ProlineVaper]

Conspiracy Theory I saw on social media earlier....made me laugh...then it made me scratch my head....

COVID-19 started in China as a means of population control, then CCP used it as a biological weapon against Democracy and to further the CCP control of global economy.

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[SteveS45]

 

[The Cromwell]

I thought it was to reduce spending on SS and medicare/medicaid?
Which someone promised to do while saying the virus was just a politically motivated Dem hoax...

Not really but....

 

[kross8]

Conspiracy Theory I saw on social media earlier....made me laugh...then it made me scratch my head....

COVID-19 started in China as a means of population control, then CCP used it as a biological weapon against Democracy and to further the CCP control of global economy.

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[Rhianne]

Chinese media all over the map

1- world /USA owes us thank you for China killing off so many of their own to stop virus (we saw govt data in early February of 25k dead)
2- USA attacked China
3- virus started in Italy

They’ve got a billion or more people in China, so even if half a million would’ve died, it’s still only a fraction of the population.

The fact that the CCP is blaming us and saying we owe them a debt of gratitude is twisting reality. Corona started there, and there are rumors now that their claims of “no new cases” are false. They can make up any statistics they want, because how can we prove them wrong?

 

[Rhianne]

Some of the only uncensored media not politically driven news media in the world anymore. Even here in the US, the vaping scene definitely drove that one home for a lot of us!

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Did you ever see ITN news in the 90’s on PBS? Back then that was the best news we could get, imo.
And Epoch and China In Focus/NTD are basically the most unbiased we can get now. And well reported.

After hearing the CDC telling blatant lies about “the vaping illness”, it’s hard for us as vapers to really believe a word they say.

I was watching a corona news vid on YT today and somebody commented that corona is like “what you get from vaping”!!

 

[Rhianne]

Oh yes. I can complain. It's the first time I've missed a Presidential election since 1976.

I think the political parties bear some responsibility to find and support people to run for office who are WORTH VOTING FOR. In my opinion, neither of them were worth it.

ETA: Let me elaborate on this a little. They weren't just "not worth it." The thought of voting for either of those two people was absolutely abhorrent to me. I have sworn for the last ten years that I would never vote for Hillary Clinton, and I haven't. But think of feeling that way about her, and then having the choice of either her or Donald Trump. I could not in good conscience vote for either of them. Thinking of it still makes me feel sick, and given that same situation, I would make the same choice again to not participate.

George Carlin said if you vote for these fuckers, you got no right to complain since you voted them in!!

 

[kross8]

They’ve got a billion or more people in China, so even if half a million would’ve died, it’s still only a fraction of the population.

The fact that the CCP is blaming us and saying we owe them a debt of gratitude is twisting reality. Corona started there, and there are rumors now that their claims of “no new cases” are false. They can make up any statistics they want, because how can we prove them wrong?

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[Rhianne]

And so far we (due to our restricted media) are only talking about phase #1.. Or strain#1... Waiting to see if Italy gets the "walk.drop &die" phase (#2) in a nutshell.. You think you dodged a bullet with airborne HIV.. Just to get blown out blood vessels

Yikes, I hadn’t heard of different strains. And definitely not drop you where you stand strains. Super scary!

Supposedly they were doing research on a flu strain before corona hit, and were paying people to get shots of it.
Test subjects who’d then go out among people and shed the virus they got paid to “test”. Ack.

 

[kross8]

Yikes, I hadn’t heard of different strains. And definitely not drop you where you stand strains. Super scary!

Supposedly they were doing research on a flu strain before corona hit, and were paying people to get shots of it.
Test subjects who’d then go out among people and shed the virus they got paid to “test”. Ack.

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[kross8]

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[ProlineVaper]

Edwin, there’s a great channel on YT called China In Focus - NTD. They quote Epoch Times so they may be related. Their virus news coverage on the “CCP virus” is excellent, imho.

Good article, thanks!

Do you believe that Facebook and Messenger disabled my post and link to The Epoch Times story about the CCP? I have officially been censored on FB. WOW! So much for freedom of speech... What's really going on in America these days??? TBH...it really irks me!

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[Rhianne]

Do you believe that Facebook and Messenger disabled my post and link to The Epoch Times story about the CCP? I have officially been censored on FB. WOW! So much for freedom of speech... What's really going on in America these days??? TBH...it really irks me!

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Whoa. Their news is done fairly imo, and it’s also not fear mongering! But maybe the news is meant to panic people here?

At least you can post those links here.

I stopped using FB a while back. But only because some guy was being stalker-ish and it weirded me out. But I just never went back after that.

 

[Rhianne]

World governments.. Companies who are out to make $$$...DO NOT GO INTO QUARANTINE FOR THE FLU. Imagine what the real risk is.. You recover.. And 2 years from now we have an unusual spike in HIV cases. People who would normally never be at risk suddenly positive.. The current strain has something like 25% HIV backbone... Then we wait for any mutations.

I’d heard a bit of that about the HIV thing from a prepper type site. But I wasn’t quite sure if his intel was real.

Thanks, I’d never willingly go to prison like that, because that’s essentially what it is, no matter what medical name they give it.

I’m glad we got to talk. One upside of this plague!

 

[The Cromwell]

outa this thread.
unwatch. racism getting a bit strong.

 

[kross8]

Do you believe that Facebook and Messenger disabled my post and link to The Epoch Times story about the CCP? I have officially been censored on FB. WOW! So much for freedom of speech... What's really going on in America these days??? TBH...it really irks me!

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[kross8]

Do you believe that Facebook and Messenger disabled my post and link to The Epoch Times story about the CCP? I have officially been censored on FB. WOW! So much for freedom of speech... What's really going on in America these days??? TBH...it really irks me!

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[MyMagicMist]

Im 39 years old, and this is the first time I've registered to vote, and recently voted for the first time. I learned that I cannot complain about governors, mayors or the president unless I vote.

Let me explore this with you a minute. Since you voted you're responsible for the mess we're in. You and those who voted felt their votes made a difference. Please do check out the article I link to. If you think you make a difference, it's your responsibility to check out such fact based information. And if you can't be bothered to do that, please look at the video.

There is though a way forward, a way we can affect a change. The problem being most don't want to be bothered. I myself can admit to not being bothered. I am at best an Anarchist . One that believes in the order of chaos itself. I don't think we need a violent up rising or lawlessness. No, I think volunteerism and a contractual based system, some bartering would solve most of the needs of being governed.

That requires law in as much as people need to honor contracts not defraud them and fraud needs punished. Suppose you contract to help build a road but when it is time to do the work you're not there doing the work. Say other businesses/people in your village stop transacting with you because you keep breaking contracts. So yes there needs to be law to protect against fraud. People need that protection from one another, businesses.

And if you look around a bit you might see my version of anarchy already present. The trouble being as is pointed out, the system of it has been corrupted and perverted. Those whom we entrust/ed to protect us defraud us. A war was fought over taxation without being represented. Here we are again.

 

[MyMagicMist]

You don't vote, you are not doing your civic duty no matter what the outcome or what you think it should be. If it doesn't come out like you want then get involved and make it happen. If you support a Thief, a Socialist or Commie so be it but then you can complain all you want when it's over as long as you VOTED. Someone who doesn't vote is not allowed to talk politics. You are not a part of it~!

You are exactly right but being exactly right makes you also exactly wrong. You're exactly right that I'm not part of a corrupted system. You're exactly wrong that I cannot hold those in power to account by discussing it.

I have every right to complain that those who vote make bad choices. Although I also have right to realize voting solves nothing. This is exactly why I am not part of it. It does not want me as part of it. If it did it would not be corrupted. I have a right to speak out and demand that.

Why? Well as I pointed out that was what our nation was founded on. We were trying to make a better way. We ended up back where we started and with the same corruption. It is patriotic of me to complain, it's my right which cannot be taken away.

You can choose to not listen. That's fine. I choose to not listen to some of your opinions just the same. We're both free to voice our views just as we're both free to not hear the views of others. and while I do mostly ignore some of your views, I do check in once in a while in the hopes you might alter them.

I'm not going to try persuading you though. Your choice is your choice, it is wrong of me to try to choose for you. It's wrong you choose for me too. Everyone has freedom of choice.

And I am not arguing or debating this with you. What I am doing is calmly and rationally stating why I think as I do. "Here's why I believe X, ..." I am not saying I am correct. I think I am correct for myself. I don't know I'm correct for anyone else. Again that is left to others to choose for themselves.

Debating opinion is pointless. that's why I'm not. If you read it that I am, that's on you, I do not intended my stating my thoughts, views as debate. I intend them being just what they are, statements of my thoughts. If you see that as debate you're reading debate into it.

Why am I telling people what I think? Well, it seems everyone is telling everyone what they think. So I figure, sure, why not join in. And no, I don't need to. You might be correct to point out lemmings to me, then, you'd be just as correct to point out lemmings to yourself.

 

[Rhianne]

outa this thread.
unwatch. racism getting a bit strong.

Racism from whom, Crom? I mean a few people got upset about voting or corruption, but I didn’t see any posts that were blatantly nasty.

 

[kross8]

Racism from whom, Crom? I mean a few people got upset about voting or corruption, but I didn’t see any posts that were blatantly nasty.

we sorted it out in email,, i deleted my posts because i thought he was calling my posts racist,, which i am not a racist. ,, his concerns a racist vibe would develop if we suddenly started using slang terms for the virus.

i will stay or leave,, whatever the board wants. my general 'off topic' posts here are very much a part of my daily life trading. they are random,, could be stuff about stocks,, could be the virus,, could be anything really....... very random,, but i promise you most of it wont be something you can read in a rag.


no,, i am not going to repost all that stuff i deleted,, we move forward.

 

[Rhianne]

I have tried taking him off of ignore a few times seems to make him even more bezerk. I only have him and one other on ignore now. the other one becuase he started a disgusting thread and I do not want to see it pop up in new posts. Don't really have too much against the guy but the only way to stop seeing his thread.
I sure wish we had ignore thread function.

The Porch thread is a place for us NY people to post.

 

[Rhianne]

we sorted it out in email,, i deleted my posts because i thought he was calling my posts racist,, which i am not a racist. ,, his concerns a racist vibe would develop if we suddenly started using slang terms for the virus.

i will stay or leave,, whatever the board wants. my general 'off topic' posts here are very much a part of my daily life trading. they are random,, could be stuff about stocks,, could be the virus,, could be anything really....... very random,, but i promise you most of it wont be something you can read in a rag.


no,, i am not going to repost all that stuff i deleted,, we move forward.

Please stay. Your take on things is very interesting, imho.

 

[SteveS45]

The Porch thread is a place for us NY people to post.

The Porch thread is not only for New Yorker's but there are a few rules.

 

[Rhianne]

The Porch thread is not only for New Yorker's but there are a few rules.

I know, I should’ve edited it. But it seems like a bunch of people in or from NY are regulars.

It’s a good thread!

 

[SteveS45]

I know, I should’ve edited it. But it seems like a bunch of people in or from NY are regulars.

It’s a good thread!

If you ever read the first post you will understand why I started it. But it is open to anyone who remains civil and no politics.

 

[SteveS45]

 

[ej1024]

I’m about to wipe some positive ass!!!

 

[DogMan]

We only get one wheelie bin for rubbish, and one for recycling here. My rubbish one was apparently stolen.

Hopefully they can replace it by Sunday when bins go out.

 

[Rhianne]

I’m about to wipe some positive ass!!!

LOL I was just thinking about how I forgot to tell you about Quercetin. I’ve been taking it since I got sick in the Fall. It’s an herb, but it’s now being researched and it’s about the same as chloroquine.

If you google it, you’ll see I’m not kidding. Stay safe, EJ. Keep your mask down and your gloves on!

 

[SteveS45]

No TP for you~!

 

[MrMeowgi]

LOL I was just thinking about how I forgot to tell you about Quercetin. I’ve been taking it since I got sick in the Fall. It’s an herb, but it’s now being researched and it’s about the same as chloroquine.

If you google it, you’ll see I’m not kidding. Stay safe, EJ. Keep your mask down and your gloves on!

Story on the radio this am a guy and his wife were taking pure chloroquine that's for their fish aquarium and he's dead. Bad things to the heart if it's taken in the wrong dosing. Just be careful

Whichever news you like but I'm sure the stories are close. Although may be a ploy so people quit hogging it too

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...oroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166

 

[SteveS45]

Story on the radio this am a guy and his wife were taking pure chloroquine that's for their fish aquarium and he's dead. Bad things to the heart if it's taken in the wrong dosing. Just be careful

Whichever news you like but I'm sure the stories are close. Although may be a ploy so people quit hogging it too

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...oroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166

I heard it was Koi Pond Chlorine.............

 

[ej1024]

LOL I was just thinking about how I forgot to tell you about Quercetin. I’ve been taking it since I got sick in the Fall. It’s an herb, but it’s now being researched and it’s about the same as chloroquine.

If you google it, you’ll see I’m not kidding. Stay safe, EJ. Keep your mask down and your gloves on!

Thanks for the advice....... we have
ONE
FACE SHEILD
GOOGLE
MASK
N-95
In a zip lock and our name on it.... non-disposable
The next supply that is gonna run out is GLOVES...

Other than shortage of supplies and the removal of the chairs in the cafeteria it’s all good, we don’t get visitors in the hospital, no traffic,no homeless walking around, it actually feels like I’m in Missouri lol!

 

[Rhianne]

Story on the radio this am a guy and his wife were taking pure chloroquine that's for their fish aquarium and he's dead. Bad things to the heart if it's taken in the wrong dosing. Just be careful

Whichever news you like but I'm sure the stories are close. Although may be a ploy so people quit hogging it too

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...oroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166

I’m talking about Quercetin. It’s not chloroquine, it’s similar in its ability to fight viruses. They want to use chloroquine now to treat corona.

Quercetin isn’t toxic at all. It comes from plants, it’s a flavonoid.

A bunch of us here started taking it for allergies, and then heard about the anti corona benefits. There’s no side effects, afaik. You can google it and see I’m not making shit up, bro.

 

[Rhianne]

Thanks for the advice....... we have
ONE
FACE SHEILD
GOOGLE
MASK
N-95
In a zip lock and our name on it.... non-disposable
The next supply that is gonna run out is GLOVES...

Other than shortage of supplies and the removal of the chairs in the cafeteria it’s all good, we don’t get visitors in the hospital, no traffic,no homeless walking around, it actually feels like I’m in Missouri lol!

So you get to be isolated at work. Lol

 

[kross8]

Market had a huge bounce today.. Traders trying to prestart-start a huge rally...thats a little problem- later... But the rally was due.

The reason the rally thus far is a problem is because wallstreet did not buy..i think they played "bait the traders again with futures"

The bulls for the most part are broke.. Mom&pop still haven't started screaming about their 401k.

Wallstreet has no incentive to raise/buy the markets:

1) when joe6pack wants his money out..why pay him at higher prices??- no reason because
2) jill6pack 401k investment although still coming in.. Is not enough to pay joe6pack's exit
3) the fresh pickle is the current bail out plan allows for everyone to cash out $100,000 without penalties (saving him 10%) taxes still apply.
4) many people may need to cash out a hefty portion to knock out their debts.
Meanwhile the market was in a huge bubble.. Never corrected from 2008.. So analyst are stuck trying to figure out what true fair value of any given company when the virus impact hits their books& earnings..for 1) right now 2) next several quarters 3) and year over year improvement/growth.

Soon it will be like riding a bicycle..1 pedal up. 1 pedal down as we drive in a channel never really getting anywhere.

Soon.. Govt working hard on bailout plan.. I don't think people gonna like it if it stays the way I read the rough draft.. Companies that are bad actors get a little help... But overall not much for Company USA.. Joe&Jill6pack will need more help possibility for several months... Package seems more like it benefits the govt and pet projects (both parties)

More mumbling about UBI (UNIVERSAL basic income)... Govt media finally openly talking about digital currency (crypto is the original)

We live in interesting times.. Grab popcorn and watch the moving parts... But I wouldn't fight it too much...get your hands chopped off by the spokes of the wheels and well you know.. That would likely hurt.

 

[MrMeowgi]

I heard it was Koi Pond Chlorine.............

Something like that.

 

[The Cromwell]

I’m about to wipe some positive ass!!!

My gratitude to ALL health care workers.
I have it on high authority that this will all be over by Easter...

 

[The Cromwell]

Market had a huge bounce today.. Traders trying to prestart-start a huge rally...thats a little problem- later... But the rally was due.

The reason the rally thus far is a problem is because wallstreet did not buy..i think they played "bait the traders again with futures"

The bulls for the most part are broke.. Mom&pop still haven't started screaming about their 401k.

Wallstreet has no incentive to raise/buy the markets:

1) when joe6pack wants his money out..why pay him at higher prices??- no reason because
2) jill6pack 401k investment although still coming in.. Is not enough to pay joe6pack's exit
3) the fresh pickle is the current bail out plan allows for everyone to cash out $100,000 without penalties (saving him 10%) taxes still apply.
4) many people may need to cash out a hefty portion to knock out their debts.
Meanwhile the market was in a huge bubble.. Never corrected from 2008.. So analyst are stuck trying to figure out what true fair value of any given company when the virus impact hits their books& earnings..for 1) right now 2) next several quarters 3) and year over year improvement/growth.

Soon it will be like riding a bicycle..1 pedal up. 1 pedal down as we drive in a channel never really getting anywhere.

Soon.. Govt working hard on bailout plan.. I don't think people gonna like it if it stays the way I read the rough draft.. Companies that are bad actors get a little help... But overall not much for Company USA.. Joe&Jill6pack will need more help possibility for several months... Package seems more like it benefits the govt and pet projects (both parties)

More mumbling about UBI (UNIVERSAL basic income)... Govt media finally openly talking about digital currency (crypto is the original)

We live in interesting times.. Grab popcorn and watch the moving parts... But I wouldn't fight it too much...get your hands chopped off by the spokes of the wheels and well you know.. That would likely hurt.

Heard something about not getting money if on SS?
tracks with the presidents plan to cut SS and medicare spending.
Just planning on helping the grandkids with it.

after all according to the TX Lt Governor we oldsters would willingly die to prevent our grandkids from suffering financial hardship.
apparently they did outlaw lynching in TX.