Seriously, don't try this at home...

[ConcreteBob]

Personally, I don't use caveman electrical devices that don't even have a stupid fuse to prevent disasters such as the one your sister narrowly avoided, because I didn't skip Electricity 101 at school and I know better.

Sort of reminds me of seeing a Soccer Mom in a Corvette, or a damn nice SUV.
She's never going to really drive the Corvette, never going to take the SUV off the driveway in her own front yard, much less trailriding. It's a status symbol. 'Hey, look at this awesome and seriously overpowered thing I have but never use properly."
Same as these people I've seen with ridiculously high powered hand guns. Unless you're hunting water buffalo, or maybe the odd Freightliner or International, you seriously have no business owning a .454 Casull or a S&W 500. It's just to be cool. And coolness and safety are passing aquaintences at best.
Yes, I know, I created that stupid suicide machine upthread for pretty much that exact reason, but I'm not afraid to acknowledge my shortcomings.

 

[smacksy]

Oh I do, and I'll keep vaping because I haven't craved once since I've started... as long as it's legal. What I'm worried about is the legislative vapocalypse that's coming our way: when I find it harder and harder to get my nic fix the healthy way, then I'll be in trouble. You won't, being nic-free, and apparently happy that way. But I will.

I think vaping is here to stay...I don't find it hard at all to get my supplies needed to stay tobacco free, and after all that's why I chose to vape in the first place..
Living in CA I do order mods and things online because its cheaper but get my juice locally as new vape shops are popin up all over the Southland down here...yeah, I see vaping not hard to do at all and it just seems to be getting better all the time...legally it will take a long time I think for any FDA or any restrictions to cone our way...but I'm an optimist... Lol

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[JOLT74]

But, I'm still curious, has anyone ever done a build that they wouldn't readily admit to their vaping friends in real life?

In what regard?

 

[JOLT74]

I think vaping is here to stay...I don't find it hard at all to get my supplies needed to stay tobacco free, and after all that's why I chose to vape in the first place..
Living in CA I do order mods and things online because its cheaper but get my juice locally as new vape shops are popin up all over the Southland down here...yeah, I see vaping not hard to do at all and it just seems to be getting better all the time...

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Except for pending FDA regs and for me in New York almost 2 dozen pending laws and restrictions

 

[ConcreteBob]

Something ridiculous. That would make your friends at least shake their heads, if not lecture you about battery safety. People have posted their borderline builds so far, but I kinda feel lonely being the only one to have dove head first into the deep end of stupid.

 

[smacksy]

Except for pending FDA regs and for me in New York almost 2 dozen pending laws and restrictions

Oh wow! NY is something else... I used to drive an 18 wheeler an a pack of smokes was about $10 in Binghamton, if I remember right... Well if it gets too bad you might consider moving out of state..

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[JOLT74]

The only thing head shaking worthy I've done is my .06, more than triple the amps my battery can handle and about 300 watts, everyone was stunned that I used it for almost a month

 

[ConcreteBob]

I have no idea how people continue to live there now, with the tax rates on EVERYTHING being as high as they are. I was there last October, and almost had a heart attack when I saw the price of a 6 pack of Sam Adams. Around $15 for freaking Sam Adams. Luckily I had all the juice I needed for the duration of the stay. I was afraid to find out what the shops in the city charge.

 

[JOLT74]

Oh wow! NY is something else... I used to drive an 18 wheeler an a pack of smokes was about $10 in Binghamton, if I remember right... Well if it gets too bad you might consider moving out of state..

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Yeah new York is ridiculous, I plan on moving in the near future to somewhere less restricting on my life and hobbies

 

[ConcreteBob]

The only thing head shaking worthy I've done is my .06, more than triple the amps my battery can handle and about 300 watts, everyone was stunned that I used it for almost a month

That's definitely a good example. Single battery mod, I'm guessing? And what battery?

 

[JOLT74]

I have no idea how people continue to live there now, with the tax rates on EVERYTHING being as high as they are. I was there last October, and almost had a heart attack when I saw the price of a 6 pack of Sam Adams. Around $15 for freaking Sam Adams. Luckily I had all the juice I needed for the duration of the stay. I was afraid to find out what the shops in the city charge.

Among about 17 other proposes bills, one is to implement an almost 90% taxes on all vaping hardware and juice sold here, it's insane and in NYC you now have to be 21 to purchase tobacco or vape products already, they want to expand that to the whole state

 

[ConcreteBob]

For that matter, have you ever accidentally done something overtly stupid with a build, folks? Maybe didn't trim a leg and shorted or something? Speak up.

 

[JOLT74]

That's definitely a good example. Single battery mod, I'm guessing? And what battery?

Yeah 18650 FUhattan and an MXJO which is my favorite battery

 

[ConcreteBob]

Among about 17 other proposes bills, one is to implement an almost 90% taxes on all vaping hardware and juice sold here, it's insane and in NYC you now have to be 21 to purchase tobacco or vape products already, they want to expand that to the whole state

NY would implement a tax on air if they could find a reliable way to meter it.

 

[Giraut]

[...]Yes, I know, I created that stupid suicide machine upthread for pretty much that exact reason, but I'm not afraid to acknowledge my shortcomings.

As I said earlier, *you* know what you're doing, and *you* realize it's not terribly safe - so that, I assume, you take the necessary precautions with your gear. Trouble is, there's a lot of people out there with a negative IQ who can buy mech mods and thick kanthal too, and they're the idiots who give vaping a bad name and hurt our freedom to vape in the long run.

Also, as an electronics engineer having dealt with my fair share of potentially harmful gear, there's another thing I've learned: you can be perfectly aware of the danger posed by an electrical device, and you can be as careful as you want with it, if the only fail-safe mechanism against human error is you and only you, the device in question will inevitably find a way to surprise you in nasty ways some days.

What I'm saying is, only an ignoramus thinks it's enough to be careful to avoid problems. Those who know, know unexpected things happen even with the best of intentions, that redundant safety is a good thing, and they choose protected gear to protect themselves against themselves.

 

[CDZVaper]

The hobby aspect is the only reason I even still vape. I was happily off the death sticks and over the addiction while I was still rocking an MVP with an Aerotank on it.

Yeah, same here. I honestly just stopped smoking when I got my first set up. It was a Nautilus mini on an aspire vv stick. Then I went to the MVP with the same tank and finally to the 4nine. Thing is, for me I have read a ton about vaping and coils etc but I have to actually do it to really understand how stuff works. As safely as possible now that I know better.

 

[ConcreteBob]

Yeah 18650 FUhattan and an MXJO which is my favorite battery

I like them too.

 

[ConcreteBob]

As I said earlier, *you* know what you're doing, and *you* realize it's not terribly safe - so that, I assume, you take the necessary precautions with your gear. Trouble is, there's a lot of people out there with a negative IQ who can buy mech mods and thick kanthal too, and they're the idiots who give vaping a bad name and hurt our freedom to vape in the long run.

Also, as an electronics engineer having dealt with my fair share of potentially harmful gear, there's another thing I've learned: you can be perfectly aware of the danger posed by an electrical device, and you can be as careful as you want with it, if the only fail-safe mechanism against human error is you and only you, the device in question will inevitably find a way to surprise you in nasty ways some days.

What I'm saying is, only an ignoramus thinks it's enough to be careful to avoid problems. Those who know, know unexpected things happen even with the best of intentions, that redundant safety is a good thing, and they choose protected gear to protect themselves against themselves.

I absolutely agree. That was kinda the point of that comment, and this entire thread, actually. I'm trying to let people know what can happen if they don't take it seriously.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever seen a 4kv switchgear arc? (I think switchgear is the proper name for it) It is both awesome and terrifying at the same time. Again, safety measures. In this case, lockout/tagout was not properly performed and it wasn't de-energized.

 

[JRugsy]

I really started vaping with a cloupor dna30 clone & Atlantis & one day a week into it I put it in my front pocket without locking it then sat down at my desk. For a solid 10+ minutes I could smell something sweet but every time I would turn in my chair the smell would dissipate and I'd go back about my work then it would repeat. It took until pocket was hot as hell and my leg started sweating before I remembered /realized it was my mod firing. It burned through at least a half tank of juice, tank was empty and the coil was black as charcoal. A pocket flashlight was the culprit pressing the fire button and every time I'd shift my weight a little to find the smell it would momentarily release the button. I felt like a moron but the office smelled really good for a solid hour or better

 

[ConcreteBob]

I really started vaping with a cloupor dna30 clone & Atlantis & one day a week into it I put it in my front pocket without locking it then sat down at my desk. For a solid 10+ minutes I could smell something sweet but every time I would turn in my chair the smell would dissipate and I'd go back about my work then it would repeat. It took until pocket was hot as hell and my leg started sweating before I remembered /realized it was my mod firing. It burned through at least a half tank of juice, tank was empty and the coil was black as charcoal. A pocket flashlight was the culprit pressing the fire button and every time I'd shift my weight a little to find the smell it would momentarily release the button. I felt like a moron but the office smelled really good for a solid hour or better

At the last project my company had me on, I was the night shift for my department. I was basically just a warm body for the last couple of months as it was wrapping up. So, I brought a bunch of my build kit with me and charged the few guys I worked with that vaped $5 a build for new coils. So, because after I wicked them, I always painted them and test fired them, the night shift surveyors I shared the office with became amateur juice critics, based on smell alone. They actually loved it. And for some reason we're unreasonably impressed with my builds. Neither of them smoked or vaped, but they thought what I was doing was the shit, for some reason. But that's the only part of the story that relates to yours... office air freshener.

 

[Slurp812]

On a .06 ohm build, the resistance of the mod itself comes into play. And of course the internal resistance of the battery itself. While the button is pressed on a full battery it would be lucky to maintain 3.5 volts on the coil. Some of that will be heating the tube itself up also. So watts aren't quite as high in the coil as you would expect. Pushing the battery for sure. As long as something in the connector and or insulator doesn't short and button presses are short you should be ok. I would only operate this outside so I could throw it in case of a failure. Seriously be careful people.