Seriously, we should ban them

[Pauly Walnuts]

Its all good, im kickin the 'q' ball already. Lmao

Is that why your avatar has the most awesome hair in the universe?

 

[Jasonfox1988]

Now that you have an understanding of what this stuff is, its time to think about it rationally.
Just the mere mention of these chemicals make people lose their fucking minds. Im not one of those people.

I get it, bronchitis obliterans (google popcorn lung) is a deadly condition and its had been linked to diacetyl in the air. The fact that diacetyl was so common and popcorn lung so rare gives me pause though.

The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Just be aware of what your vaping. If a recipe has caps vanilla custard, bavarian cream, butter, and five other ingredients known to have bad stuff in it, go easy or dont make it at all. If a recipe has five 'clean' ingredients and 1% of bavarian cream, theres no reason to push the panic button. Vape what you enjoy but keep a balance.
I used to vape custards exclusively, now I dont. Because of diacetyl? NO. I just moved on.

I got some caps custard steeping lol :/ is all fa flavours free of this stuff


happy vaping

 

[Swerved]

Am I the only on that sees the delicious irony in the fact that a vaper, who likely used to consume over 4,000+ chemicals 20, 40, 60 times a day, are is about another substance they decide to inhale into their lungs containing traces of 2 or 3 chemicals? I mean, yeah I'm all for being as safe as possible and all that but as someone else stated, these flavor concentrates are meant for food not vaping.

As a side note, I've not had much difficulty finding versions of these flavors that do not contain those chemicals. At least some of the companies see the potential market for this... Given time there will be more alternatives.

 

[OneLief]

At this point though...don't we pretty much KNOW. I mean you know what flavor profiles these are most commonly found in. If you don't want to take the chance of being exposed to it...say goodbye to Vanilla, Bavarian Cream, Custard and all other flavors in that category. I guarantee you that if people just stopped buying those flavors, the companies would be QUICK to add that info if they thought that's why flavors weren't selling. Whether they tell the truth or not (hello Flavorwest!)...would remain to be seen,

With regard to recipes....WAHHH. Free recipes posted by a generous person who wants to share what they like? That's a bit over the line with the hand holding. Like a thread I saw the other day, a guy wanted them to give HIC a subforum because he couldn't gather all of the recipes fast enough to suit him because the threads had too many comments...lol REALLY??? I'm seriously waiting for a thread to show up where a vaper asks "Can somebody give me a mod and atty, make me a wicked coil, mix me some juice and then come over and vape it for me??" LMAO This seems to be where we are headed!

Nice to meet you. I'm that guy. Funny, I remember YOU saying " I'm not saying it's a bad idea. Hell, I'd love to have one place to go to get all the recipes in one uncluttered place...". So now your going to get all COCK STRONG and start talking shit and using your CAPS LOCK. Ok. Nice to have you out of the closet.

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[soulshine]

LOL...woooahhh there tiger! What the hell are you even talking about? What I meant (and thought you understood) was that yes, it would have been a good idea. It's not how the info is presented though and if you want it presented in a different way, then maybe you should organize it differently. That has nothing to do with this thread though anyway. You can PM me if you have further issues you'd like to discuss about that. I used your thread as an example..I didn't call anybody by name. Geez dude...you need to not take "the internets" so seriously.

 

[OneLief]

LOL...woooahhh there tiger! What the hell are you even talking about? What I meant (and thought you understood) was that yes, it would have been a good idea. It's not how the info is presented though and if you want it presented in a different way, then maybe you should organize it differently. That has nothing to do with this thread though anyway. You can PM me if you have further issues you'd like to discuss about that. I used your thread as an example..I didn't call anybody by name. Geez dude...you need to not take "the internets" so seriously.

Nice try sunshine. I have no interest in a discussion with you.

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[soulshine]

Sorry I offended you so badly man. I'm gonna stay out of these discussions from now on. My "presentation" is bad but have yet to have anybody argue my actual points though. Isn't that strange? I guess I'm just too blunt sometimes and tend to say things in a way that makes people butt hurt. I'll just keep my eyes on the recipe threads from now on. Hope I didn't cause you to have a bad day

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I was thinkin a lesbian 50s music band.
I wanna become a lesbian, but they won't tell me where the meetings are.

I hold meetings for a local chapter here every Wednesday and Friday

 

[Rin Vapes]

I think there is enough banning done against vaping to not justify banning from within the community. By now, people should be aware of the risks of diketones/etc if they are DIYing. Most reputable vendors even list if they have the questionable ingredients.
Besides, just because someone posts a recipe doesn't mean you have to copy it ingredient by ingredient. Most of my recipes are variations of another person's because I either need to alter the percentage, like a flavor or brand better or don't like that particular flavor/brand. There are substitutes for Bavarian Cream, for example or at the least flavors that can be used instead to give a similar effect. (if not the same) Flavour Art (yes, I'm one of those people) has excellent creams, for example.

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

Sorry I offended you so badly man. I'm gonna stay out of these discussions from now on. My "presentation" is bad but have yet to have anybody argue my actual points though. Isn't that strange? I guess I'm just too blunt sometimes and tend to say things in a way that makes people butt hurt. I'll just keep my eyes on the recipe threads from now on. Hope I didn't cause you to have a bad day

NO! You shouldnt stay out of the discussion, you should stay right in the mix. People get pissed, people say the wrong thing, and people dont always get along. Dont worry about it, shit happens.

Nice try sunshine. I have no interest in a discussion with you.

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I know duded offended you, but dont burn your bridges.

 

[nabibrian]

 

[Whiskey]

 

[FlavoVape]

Tell me what's in it...then give me the freedom to decide if I want to vape it.

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