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Slam piece or siege

Goonkiller123

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I’m looking to buy a new mod since I sold my vindicator and I’m looking to step up for my next purchase but I’m considering the slam piece cobra or the siege by inmortal mods, I’m aware of the situación about inmortal mods, but considering the difference in price around $100.00 I’m not really sure which one should Buy, I mean the siege looks amazing and form factor I like it a bit more, but the slam piece I’m aware is 100% better quality and materials but this is only info I know from reviews I’m looking for some more info or more real opinions about this so I will appreciate any advice these two
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MrMeowgi

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What's the deal with immortal? Second time I've heard that and looked it up and couldn't find anything
 

Goonkiller123

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What's the deal with immortal? Second time I've heard that and looked it up and couldn't find anything
They advertise their products as made in USA and saying that a Chinese company we’re making clones but at the end the owner was basically scamming customers selling Chinese made products as USA made im not fully aware about it you can lookup the vaping legion video on YouTube to confirm
 

MrMeowgi

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Hell honestly I think most stuff is made in China.
 

Goonkiller123

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Well I had a kennedy vindicator which is not super expensive but is supposed to be a better quality mod than my Chinese made tauren but for some reason I started having a hot botton problem which I never had with any of my other mech tubes, and for me was not a pleasant experience since I tried several things to fix the problem and nothing works so I ended up selling the mod for $75 bucks not a good deal honestly
 

MrMeowgi

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I've heard the same about the vindicator.
 

Goonkiller123

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Keeping the vindicator button free of tarnish (clean) and lubed eliminates the hot button.
Yeah o know pretty much I clean my mods once a week, so patina was not the problem I tried brazo, blue magic which I used to clean my other mods and for some reason kept happening, and really my bottom was super clean and the threads were perfect and still have the hot button once or twice every 5 or 6 draws like I said the mod is not bad at all and was a really a hard hitting but mine have that problem.
 

Goonkiller123

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Something with vinegar like ketchup to remove tarnish and some kind of lube fixes it.
Haha I never tried ketchup but I know is good to remove patina and vinegar works really well but didn't fix the problem. Like I said no more mods with springs at least for me.
 

PaulS

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I’m looking to buy a new mod since I sold my vindicator and I’m looking to step up for my next purchase but I’m considering the slam piece cobra or the siege by immortal mods, I’m aware of the situation about immortal mods, but considering the difference in price around $100.00 I’m not really sure which one should Buy, I mean the siege looks amazing and form factor I like it a bit more, but the slam piece I’m aware is 100% better quality and materials but this is only info I know from reviews I’m looking for some more info or more real opinions about this so I will appreciate any advice these two
Thanks!!!

I did not like my Slam piece at all. The Screws attaching the bar would get annoyingly hot at times, I did not like having to adjust the lock, it is quite heavy and bigger around then some might think. Yes, it's a Purge made in U.S.A. Yes, the Seige is Chinese. Prefer the Seige. And I also love my Grip.

Everyone experiences mods differently. Everyone has their favorites. I still prefer 18650s over 21700s. That crap about harder hitting does not fly. Your build determines the hit 9 times out of 10. I'll swap batteries - no biggie for me. The Samsung 20s batteries hit plenty hard enough.

Hot buttons are a bitch. I hate mods that require constant maintenance. My mods now are all cerakoted or SS. I particularly detest copper. It has a taste and gets on your hands. And needs constant cleaning unless you like patina, in which case have a proper coated patina done.
 

Goonkiller123

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So you have a siege? Can you tell me how is working no problems so far? I know the grip looks amazing but there’s something about the small size of the siege that makes me fall in love hahaha and the siege black cerakote looks perfect
 

Carambrda

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As for the Vindicator 21700, as always it comes with a lifetime warranty so even if the ketchup trick (and putting some grease onto the spring and only onto the spring) didn't work, that could have fixed the issue about the button instead of keep complaining about it online in multiple discussion threads that one seriously has to start to wonder if this isn't just a classical ID10T error being translated to bashings on the mod. Not saying that's what it is, just saying one has got to start to wonder... and besides, there is now a constant contact button upgrade available for it so no more arcing marks on the battery either.

I own (and use) a Vindicator 21700 myself, and I know enough people who also own one enough that I am able to tell this button problem never occurred with any of them so it must be a one off experience causing one particular person to eat his heart out in this manner. I certainly don't see a bunch of people online or offline who are having the same problem. Still nothing is impossible I guess. OK it shouldn't have happened, but let's not forget the Vindicator 21700 is just a $130 mod so at least be realistic about it. You want a $130 mod without a spring or magnets, then get yourself an Admiral (I own 2 of 'em) and put a Sanyo 2070C in it. No arcing marks on the battery with the Admiral either. As an aside and as a matter of true fact, 61 of the mods that I currently own use magnets or springs. I have yet to encounter such problems with any of them in such a way that was so severe and that couldn't be fixed. Sorry if I came across as rude and patronizing/harsh. I'm not the guy who started it... lol

Immortal Mods are a brand that leaves me stone cold TBH. Not because their stuff is made in China, but because they had to change their name from Armageddon to Immortal Mods after it was found that they were scamming people with their authentics being 100% identical to the clones because AFAIK that's exactly what they had been doing on purpose. The Apocalypse RDA was more expensive than the Goon despite the former didn't give better flavor or feel of the vape after I changed the stock drip tip of the Goon with a FatBastahd acrylic handmade in the USA drip tip by Half Moon Mods. That plus the fact their [Immortal] mods are not really my style. Again, sorry...

What I like about Purge is they're hard hitting, mostly incredibly strong build quality in cohort with above average safety designs, and they simply look gorgeous IMO almost with no exceptions, but definitely none of them are ugly so I do like their style a lot, and so it's also about personal preferences a lot also. Currently I own 28 of their mods (3 of which are side firing, and in fact I ordered 2 more of their side firing ones only yesterday because you only live one time), but then currently I own 70 unregulated mods 68 of which are mech, so... anyone who thinks I buy Purge because I must be a snob should get their envious head straightened.

Finally, I'll add that the Samsung 30T does hit harder than the Samsung 20S, and that I am able to tell the difference by vaping on a dual coil aliens build that's .11 ohms, 27/36 Ni80 at 4.5 wraps 2.5mm ID. The difference in how hard these 2 different batteries hit isn't astronomical or anything so it doesn't actually bother me, but the difference is nonetheless there, and it can very clearly be felt on the vape initially, for a short while if the battery is fully charged.
 

Goonkiller123

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I got it, and first I’m not trashing the mod I’m just sharing my experience with it. This second thread was created for a different question and this is only my second thread and if I mentioned is because I want to share my thoughts with the mod. I’m glad your mod works perfect and the one of the people you know, like you said could be user error which I doubt but no body is perfect and we can make some mistakes but I’m not a new vaper which by any means I’m saying I’m an expert because I’m not, and life time warranty unfortunately doesn’t apply for my since I’m not in the US, also I appreciate taking the time and sharing your experience with the mod and all other points you mentioned.
 

r055co

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Well I had a kennedy vindicator which is not super expensive but is supposed to be a better quality mod than my Chinese made tauren but for some reason I started having a hot botton problem which I never had with any of my other mech tubes, and for me was not a pleasant experience since I tried several things to fix the problem and nothing works so I ended up selling the mod for $75 bucks not a good deal honestly
I've got the Copper, Copper Cerakote, and SS Vindicator. Never have had a hot button issue that wasn't due to needing cleaning and I run 0.1 builds. I average cleaning every 2+ weeks with Wrights and use Dioxit Gold or Noalox on the threads.

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marter

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I have the black cerakote and SS Vindicator 21700s and have yet to experience a hot button. I asked Kennedy support what they recommend and their answer was to clean with "any abrasive cloth like scotch bright and I like to use Chapstick for lubrication or dielectric grease Chapstick works the best".

FWIW,
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CashNVape

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I did not like my Slam piece at all. The Screws attaching the bar would get annoyingly hot at times, I did not like having to adjust the lock, it is quite heavy and bigger around then some might think. Yes, it's a Purge made in U.S.A. Yes, the Seige is Chinese. Prefer the Seige. And I also love my Grip.

Everyone experiences mods differently. Everyone has their favorites. I still prefer 18650s over 21700s. That crap about harder hitting does not fly. Your build determines the hit 9 times out of 10. I'll swap batteries - no biggie for me. The Samsung 20s batteries hit plenty hard enough.

Hot buttons are a bitch. I hate mods that require constant maintenance. My mods now are all cerakoted or SS. I particularly detest copper. It has a taste and gets on your hands. And needs constant cleaning unless you like patina, in which case have a proper coated patina done.
The only upside I like about the 30t is it lasts longer than a 20s and that's it.

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