That explains why you post memes instead. Hate to break it to you but posting memes is worse.
We need a Smok contest where if you win they send you a new alien every 3 months to keep you vapin
Peril sensitive glasses?Or maybe a can of paint?
That's why I bought a really expensive first mod. Sure I could have said "fuck It," but then I would look at this really expensive mod and figure I have to use it.Definitely a good way to quit cigarettes! I'm still trying to quit at the moment. Mainly end up smoking when I drink!
I suspect that about a week after black Friday the what's wrong with my Smok stuff posts flood in.
but you are still in the high power mod mindset.Like it hasn't already but yeah, it will only increase after then.
Too bad this site doesn't offer more support to these people and less to these manufacturers. I guess the most technically sound advice would be to buy a mod with a DNA, Yihi, or FSK chip but that is a bit over the top for new vapers and still doesn't completely solve the problem since even they need vast improvement on warranty service.
I guess the Battlestar is the best mod that doesn't have one of those three chips especially for TC later on?
What would you have this site do to support them?Too bad this site doesn't offer more support to these people and less to these manufacturers.....
None of DNA, Yihi, or FSK is either; even less so than Smok so that obviously wasn't the point. The point was about making products that work as advertised and better warranty service when it doesn't regardless of how much power anyone vapes at.but you are still in the high power mod mindset.
PLENTY of single battery mods out there that perform well.
And Smok stuff is NOT for those just quitting smoking.
It can start with doing more to sympathize with the fraud victims than the manufacturers as this whole thread is about. If people stopped white knighting bad manufacturers and started orientating themselves towards the possible victim they to could become rather than the manufacturer they never will be; the ideas on how to better support others will come.What would you have this site do to support them?
... I mean besides giving disgruntled owners a forum in which to vent.
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This forum is a business not a consumer advocacy group. It's not in the owner's interest to bash advertisers.It can start with doing more to sympathize with the fraud victims than the manufacturers as this whole thread is about. If people stopped white knighting bad manufacturers and started orientating themselves towards the possible victim they to could become rather than the manufacturer they never will be; the ideas on how to better support others will come.
Um, a coffee maker has a much higher expectation of actually working as advertised than a mod unfortunately; at least one bought in the USA with a UL label on it. And if the coffee maker is defective, there is a much higher expectation of either warranty or even refund.I was wondering the same thing. The forum also has a sub-forum for vendors so people can actually communicate with them. It's nice to have a little community and everything, but vaping is like any other consumer product - you pays your money and takes your chances. I don't expect anyone to go advocate for me and hold my hand when I buy a... I don't know, coffee maker. I don't expect any different when I by a mod.
This forum is a business not a consumer advocacy group. It's not in the owner's interest to bash advertisers.
This forum is a business not a consumer advocacy group. It's not in the owner's interest to bash advertisers.
It can start with doing more to sympathize with the fraud victims than the manufacturers as this whole thread is about.
Sheesh.....In other words, it is a shill site?
In other words, it is a shill site?
In other words, it is a shill site?
Absofukinlutely. Try expressing a negative opinion of an ECF advertiser & see what happens.yes I consider it VERY nice that they let us bash some of their advertisers.
Try expressing a negative opinion of an ECF advertiser & see what happens.
Maybe what we need is a organization to step in and regulate the market.
Maybe what we need is a organization to step in and regulate the market.
This forum is a business not a consumer advocacy group. It's not in the owner's interest to bash advertisers.
Right. I agree.But he allows us to bash whoever/whatever - and for the most part, everyone's experience with a product will be different
Remember, Wismec's RX200 was the 2016 Mod of the Year
Right. I agree.
I don't expect old man joe to get on a soap box for me or call people at smok. To me, that doesn't make joe a "shill", it's quite the opposite. He's allowing us free use and expression in his place of business, what else do people want?
Even if you don't disagree with them they still consider it abuse.Just try expressing any opinion over there and see what happens. Can't even use the new rating system to disagree. Disagree with too many thing the Mods consider it abuse?
Even if you don't disagree with them they still consider it abuse.
Even if you don't disagree with them they still consider it abuse.
Also if you do find a way to piss the mods over there off without breaking one of the 50,000 rules they just ban you anyway and make what you did rule# 50,001