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ben73

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Well Stimy Vapor v6 , with switchfet arrived , has some flaws , some fiddly bit
But works well ,
Front sqounker button , installed a lolly stick on back of front Sqounker button gives it a bit more length to push on the bottle crude but works , ,
Small size
82.5mm x 47mm
Has a different sqounker cap a slot and collet that fits on the base of 510 ,
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Has an oring on underside of 510 , one in cap , so it dont need to fully pressed in for a seal , half round silicone bottle ,
2 down sides the button could of been deeper / longer so wouldn't need a lolly stick in back
An the bottle cap can pull off some times when removing the bottle , if pushed full-on it can touch the board / switchfet , ?
These can be fixed by using a standard sqounker bottles an tube to 510. , An a lolly stick so not perfect ,
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ben73

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Vapes very nicely has the usual protection and on off 5x clicks from a Switchfet
Frame is 23.4mm wide , 24.2 with doors on , so 22 fit well 24mm fits but , looks better with 22mms ,


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Running VTC5 cell @ 4.18V ,
So little voltage drop , tested with smok volt ohm checker
Led colours show voltage levels of cell , change as volts drop , green blue then red which lights up under resin panel a little brighter indicating batter needs changing before board cuts out ,
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for accurate voltage drop test measurements must be made under load.
One at the atty while firing and one at the battery when firing.
the difference is the mod voltage drop.
a .1 ohm resistance has NO voltage drop at no current or just a few ma to run a meter.
However a .1 ohm resistance has a 2 volt drop at 20 amps.
 

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3.41 at the atty
3.83 at the battery contacts.

Just took those measurements on a pulse BF mod with a .2 coil in a Wasp.

So the mod voltage drop is .42 volts....

the total voltage drop between Neg battery contact and neg post on Atty = .1 V
the total voltage drop between positive 510 pin and positive atty post =.06
So total atty drop could be considered .16 volts.
But this includes the drop in the connection between the atty and the mod 510.

so at best the Pulse BF mod has a .26 V drop in the mod not counting the atty to mod 510 connections.

this is at 17 amps. Using a VTC5A fully charged at 4.19V
With no atty on the Pulse BF it reads 4.18 volts at the 510 while firing with NO atty.

Edit rechecked drop to atty. on the negative side it was .02 from the negative battery atty post to the negative portion of the 510 inside the mod. There is a .14 volt drop between the negative battery contact and the negative portion of the 510.

This places the Actual internal mod voltage drop at .39 volts.
 
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ben73

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for accurate voltage drop test measurements must be made under load.
One at the atty while firing and one at the battery when firing.
the difference is the mod voltage drop.
a .1 ohm resistance has NO voltage drop at no current or just a few ma to run a meter.
However a .1 ohm resistance has a 2 volt drop at 20 amps.
4.17V on cell when just checked on charger,
still awaiting them to fully charge
So .15 different on pic ,
was 4.09 , on first press or 2 before camera focused so it drops quick each press since cells not fully charged yet ,
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Will try volt meter on battery contacts an such later not got one with me at moment
 
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4.17V on cell when just checked on charger,
still awaiting them to fully charge
So .15 different on pic ,
was 4.09 , on first press or 2 before camera focused so it drops quick each press since cells not fully charged yet ,
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Second pic ohms
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Still not accounting for battery sag.
and what is your atty resistance? Must be fairly high. Batteries sag to 3.8-3.7 at around 15 amps.


My measurements on the BF are accurate.
It is a matter of measuring at various points in a series circuit to check voltage drops at the different places.
 

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Not picking on you Benley but the generally accepted method of checking mech mod voltage drop is garbage.
One MUST read the voltage at the battery and at the 510 while firing with a load to get an accurate voltage drop.
And as the current increases due to lower resistance coils the voltage drop WILL increase.
As will the battery sag, but they are 2 separate things.
 

ben73

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Not picking on you Benley but the generally accepted method of checking mech mod voltage drop is garbage.
One MUST read the voltage at the battery and at the 510 while firing with a load to get an accurate voltage drop.
And as the current increases due to lower resistance coils the voltage drop WILL increase.
As will the battery sag, but they are 2 separate things.
Nah thats fine , need to know how its done properly,
Ive only got minimal vape gear with me at my partners ,
I do have a cheap volt meter at home so will test them when get the chance @ home ,
I've only got the volt/ omh tester a few atties an 510 ohm meter few building bit with me here basically bare min essentials.

So need reading at both battery contacts , an then at 510
Both under load ,

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Nah thats fine , need to know how its done properly,
Ive only got minimal vape gear with me at my partners ,
I do have a cheap volt meter at home so will test them when get the chance @ home ,
I've only got the volt/ omh tester a few atties an 510 ohm meter few building bit with me here basically bare min essentials.

So need reading at both battery contacts , an then at 510
Both under load ,

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Yep just pop the top on the atty and read at the posts while firing and read at the battery terminals while firing. the difference in the reading is the total voltage drop including the atty drop.
to eliminate the atty drop read at the 510 inside of the mod while firing.
I figure atty drops will vary a bit but should not vary much, if they do might need to dissassemble and clean the atty.
I just got a .03 total voltage drop from the 510 inside the mod to the posts on the atty.
Which is basically nothing.
 

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Dang - missed two good ones before I even got up, lol
 

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3.41 at the atty
3.83 at the battery contacts.

Just took those measurements on a pulse BF mod with a .2 coil in a Wasp.

So the mod voltage drop is .42 volts....

the total voltage drop between Neg battery contact and neg post on Atty = .1 V
the total voltage drop between positive 510 pin and positive atty post =.06
So total atty drop could be considered .16 volts.
But this includes the drop in the connection between the atty and the mod 510.

so at best the Pulse BF mod has a .26 V drop in the mod not counting the atty to mod 510 connections.

this is at 17 amps. Using a VTC5A fully charged at 4.19V
With no atty on the Pulse BF it reads 4.18 volts at the 510 while firing with NO atty.

Edit rechecked drop to atty. on the negative side it was .02 from the negative battery atty post to the negative portion of the 510 inside the mod. There is a .14 volt drop between the negative battery contact and the negative portion of the 510.

This places the Actual internal mod voltage drop at .39 volts.

This is vindicating -

Still can't believe its as popular as it is - extremely unsatisfying vape
 

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Using the same battery and atty the Pico Squeeze puts 3.67 volts to the atty posts....
VS 3.41 for the Pulse BF.

Interesting - the Pico seems significantly peppier vs the Pulse
 

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I get 3.74v Fresh 5A on Pico with my Haku Crusier... 3.63v with the Ha-Klone
It will depend quite a bit on your coil resistance as a lower ohm coil will draw more current causing more battery output voltage sag. I was using a .2 coil for my tests.
voltage drop will vary a bit with different attys as well.
 

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I said something on the Facebook group for pulse and pulse things. I got flammed. They were talking about a fix and I said something like get a real mech lol

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Well they could not have bought a mod that was not the best could they?

the Pulse actually performs a tiny bit better than the beat up CV I use.

But the Pico beats em both by a mile.

Mosfets rule!
 

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I said something on the Facebook group for pulse and pulse things. I got flammed. They were talking about a fix and I said something like get a real mech lol

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No shit

My mechs (brand new) cost anywhere from $12 (Frankenclone) to $450, but most are in the $50 range, and the Pulse was hands down the worst mod I ever owned

So bad I refused to sell it to some unsuspected schmuck
 

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When I first saw the Pulse... and then Tony's video... I said Immediately that it was a leaverite.

Some things I will venture and try at the <$35 mark, but that fucking thing was a no from the beginning. Not a maybe, or a possibility...just straight...

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R3alJim Shady

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Nope, just another top 10. Still closer than me learning Japanese

Japanese is an extremely difficult language. I studied it in college and am not even close to fluent.

Regarding the Half, I gave up on that. Too difficult and too expensive. Doesn’t help that I work every Sunday!


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When I first saw the Pulse... and then Tony's video... I said Immediately that it was a leaverite.

Some things I will venture and try at the <$35 mark, but that fucking thing was a no from the beginning. Not a maybe, or a possibility...just straight...

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That was my thought too - but got caught squonkless in Seattle and took me three B&Ms to find any squonker - the first one I tried had never heard of the concept :rolleyes:

Desperate times - but it was a lot worse than I thought it would be
 

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Looking for a wood Half. Thanks tho. One of these days will be my day.





Yeah, it’s as hard as English to learn

Might have something to do with using three different writing systems in combination and all the contractions they use. I’ve forgotten more than I learned somehow!


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Might have something to do with using three different writing systems in combination and all the contractions they use. I’ve forgotten more than I learned somehow!
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Constant use of puns being it by sound or how it’s written blows my mind.

It’s basically how we use slang and having words have a ton of different meanings in it’s usage but way more complex
 

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Was on FT last night and it looks like the Kanger DB160 and the original DB are going bye bye.

Kanger getting ready to come out with a new dual battery squonker?

I figure the Pico squeeze killed the DB.
 

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