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The Cromwell

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I dunno what is going on, but I do know one thing about myself. I kinda automatically resist going the path that 'everyone' tells me to go.
Doing what others wanted/told me to do has been some of my biggest mistakes in life.
So if some people here and on you tube tell me to boycott Voopoo it tends to make me consider getting one of those silly ass named things.
At this point it is quite possible that Vandy Vape was playing tonyB.

So far it is playing with US vapers just like VV would want it to.
 
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So just proof positive that something good can come out of FB...
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Hell yea man that thing is sweet. Glad you finally got it.

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The Cromwell

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I suspect that VV let tonyB think he had convinced them to use the Gene Chip.

This could not be playing out any better against their competitor now could it?
And they get to use their own chip...
More profit.

All theory and supposition of course....
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I dunno what is going on, but I do know one thing about myself. I kinda automatically resist going the path that 'everyone' tells me to go.
Doing what others wanted/told me to do has been some of my biggest mistakes in life.
So if some people here and on you tube tell me to boycott Voopoo it tends to make me consider getting one of those silly ass named things.
At this point it is quite possible that Vandy Vape was playing tonyB.

So far it is playing with US vapers just like VV would want it to.
The only thing I want to know is when will VPoo be releasing their version of the Pulse mod w/ Gene chip so I can buy one (or three)

I've got nothing against Vandy Vape stuff but I certainly won't be taking a chance on their proprietary chip. I've got 2 Drags and even though I don't use them anymore due to full time squonking there is no doubt the Gene chip is absolutely stellar as a budget DNA alternative.

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I liked the VooPoo Drag I won just fine, but hated the Pulse, so was curious about the new VV squonker, but was 99% sure I would not get one. Now I'm 99.9% sure I won't
 

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I have no sympathy for what happened to TonyB... The whole video made me just laugh honestly. "I wanted to bring squonking to the masses for cheap" Sorry Pico beat ya by a good year+... I'd go to these sites and there were only Kanger and the like... stop visiting those sites... I do this cause its my passion, I do it for you all...later I made the pulse 24 the way I like, and if others like it good, but I made it for me... stfu.

Then seeing his diss on FB mods "Unless you spend $500 on FB Italian mods" stfu again...

He got duped because he is gullible and shit.

I mean is VV just a total shit shop? I doubt it, heck I see them pumping shit out like crazy and doesn't need Tony's endorsement to sell...

Only way Tony gets all butt fucking hurt is if he truly had dumped money into the deal and then the above still holds true, he was gullible and got his shit pushed in.

I'll be surprised Tony doesn't get sued by VP for defamation. Again 'cause he wasn't thinking and wanted to get back at them for being stupid in the first place, silly wabbit.
 

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for now I am holding with my theory that VV let tonyB think he had convinced them to use the Gene chipset.
But never intended to use it.
they would make more profit if they used their own chipset.

One of the best wins in a business is to screw your customers for more profit and have a competitor take the blame.
A win/win.

Morals do not often enter into business.
 

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I wish Eleaf would just put out a regulated squonker with their chip, about the size of OG iStick 50, slap in a better bottle and you'd have a great little squonker that is 100% great in wattage mode and reliable as hell without being fidgety
 

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I'm going by @JuicyLucy 's opinion, the Pulse was poo (pun intended) so I didn't have much hope for their regulated mod. IF and that's a big IF the VooPoo squonk is not a "poke yer finner" kinda mod, though it most probably is, then I might get one. As far as his intentions to bring affordable gear to the masses, the damn thing is twice as much as the Pico in other places (other than FT) so yeah not as expensive as a Therion, but still a decent chunk of change.
 

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I'm going by @JuicyLucy 's opinion, the Pulse was poo (pun intended) so I didn't have much hope for their regulated mod. IF and that's a big IF the VooPoo squonk is not a "poke yer finner" kinda mod, though it most probably is, then I might get one. As far as his intentions to bring affordable gear to the masses, the damn thing is twice as much as the Pico in other places (other than FT) so yeah not as expensive as a Therion, but still a decent chunk of change.
if they would just come out with a regulated squeeze....
Maybe this year...
 

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I'm going by @JuicyLucy 's opinion, the Pulse was poo (pun intended) so I didn't have much hope for their regulated mod. IF and that's a big IF the VooPoo squonk is not a "poke yer finner" kinda mod, though it most probably is, then I might get one. As far as his intentions to bring affordable gear to the masses, the damn thing is twice as much as the Pico in other places (other than FT) so yeah not as expensive as a Therion, but still a decent chunk of change.

Yeah, it seems "mid" priced stuff ($40-$60) is usually crappier than the utterly cheap stuff
 

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Hey Squeeples,
Just popped on to send The Bear a note real quick and thought I'd say hello.
For you facebookers, hava look at comments on the Voopoo page, sh!t is going off.
Tony is a friend of mine but he is really blowing it, what a stupid move the video and all. NOT the way to retaliate (unless you're a 15 year old girl)
And his fans are eating it up.
This is not going to end well for Tony.
I fcuking hate social media in situations like this, ...unfortunately it's a necessary evil for me.. pays the bills!
As you were soldiers
Big hugz
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for now I am holding with my theory that VV let tonyB think he had convinced them to use the Gene chipset.
But never intended to use it.
they would make more profit if they used their own chipset.

One of the best wins in a business is to screw your customers for more profit and have a competitor take the blame.
A win/win.

Morals do not often enter into business.

I don’t think that’s very plausible. They won’t make as much profit now, because consumers had a very definite expectation of getting a Pulse with Gene chip. A lot of people will simply not buy the revised device...so what profit?
 

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I don’t think that’s very plausible. They won’t make as much profit now, because consumers had a very definite expectation of getting a Pulse with Gene chip. A lot of people will simply not buy the revised device...so what profit?
Ohh they will still sell them because of Vape Celebrity fanpersons.
And the best part for VV is the hurt to their competitor. Less sales for competitor means more sales for them.

Plus not sure how impressed that VV was with Pulse BF sales.
 

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I think you missed the point here.
The reason the Pulse 80W was $90 was because Voopoo kept upping the price on the (gene-chip) even after contracts were signed.
But if contracts where signed then there a contract , where as tony said at one point there wasnt it was just a verbal deal or they couldn't of kept changing ,
Me thinks both companies got what they wanted , vandy vape already had a chip they certainly where not going to leave it out after R an D on it.
So only Tony got had over by sounds of it ,

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Well it's official, I crossed over to the dark side and ordered a Pico squeeze.
Also planning to send the sleeve to Nigel for slime green powder coating so I can peg the needle on the wtf meter for JuicyLucy. ;)

If I can figure out how to disassemble it.
Wonder if they could paint up a NC v2 Sqounker as well ,
got 3 now 2 x 25mm an 1 x 22
Would look nicer with a wrap or paint job

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I dunno what is going on, but I do know one thing about myself. I kinda automatically resist going the path that 'everyone' tells me to go.
Doing what others wanted/told me to do has been some of my biggest mistakes in life.
So if some people here and on you tube tell me to boycott Voopoo it tends to make me consider getting one of those silly ass named things.
At this point it is quite possible that Vandy Vape was playing tonyB.

So far it is playing with US vapers just like VV would want it to.
Yep then when they drop a bad chip in people will say it isnt there fault but we support you any wat because it was bad getting done over by poo

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Which also means he didnt like there chip

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Umm no way to know, I don't think he had even seen their chip.
But if someone tried to convince Ford to put a Chevy ECM in their car....
 

ben73

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Umm no way to know, I don't think he had even seen their chip.
But if someone tried to convince Ford to put a Chevy ECM in their car....
Its all sounding like a publicity stunt to me , voopoo will have the better mod probably get it to market first , so there trying to skew it sales , people know the squeezer is better than the pulse but many still on FB an other social networks constantly post the pulse as the best thing since sliced bread. Ingrance is bliss for the pulse fans

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There calling for boycotting Voopoo now on FB groups asking reviewers to do same
Peeps are like sheep all following each other , Who cares the consumer gets 2 options , an Voopoo will try to under cut them with a better chip
 
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In other words, that contract wasn't worth a poo?

I'm guessing they did not have a bonafide sales contract, more like an MOU or something, which are only as good as the paper its written on
 

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I struggled thru the latest TonyB video.
And according to him there was NO contract.
and he had to talk Vandy Vape into using the Gene chip..
Why would they do that if they had their own chip?
 

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I struggled thru the latest TonyB video.
And according to him there was NO contract.
and he had to talk Vandy Vape into using the Gene chip..
Why would they do that if they had their own chip?

Because he liked the Gene chip and it was already established and ready to go. It made sense in theory to get the mod out to market faster and sell with an already popular chipset. Makes sense to me rather than betting on an unknown.


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Hey Squeeples,
Just popped on to send The Bear a note real quick and thought I'd say hello.
For you facebookers, hava look at comments on the Voopoo page, sh!t is going off.
Tony is a friend of mine but he is really blowing it, what a stupid move the video and all. NOT the way to retaliate (unless you're a 15 year old girl)
And his fans are eating it up.
This is not going to end well for Tony.
I fcuking hate social media in situations like this, ...unfortunately it's a necessary evil for me.. pays the bills!
As you were soldiers
Big hugz
:cheers:

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Because he liked the Gene chip and it was already established and ready to go. It made sense in theory to get the mod out to market faster and sell with an already popular chipset. Makes sense to me rather than betting on an unknown.


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But now hes building up support for unknown , im guessing next step would be law suit for slander now that would be funny as Flip to see that happen a gagging Order lol ,
These reviewer think there god like an trying to collapse a company in china , next think will be Tony B on news with some rare toxic poisoning like the The Sergei Skripal drama here in UK now we kicking out lots of Russian lol

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Now you have heathen sticking his nose in it


Cromwell's theory seems to be quite popular among some comments.

I do not support Vapor Trail or Heathen *shrugs*

While I understand Tony is pissed and disappointed, this shit is really between VooPoo and VandyVape - and I highly doubt the two had an actual sales contract, most probably they merely had a memorandum of understanding - both are contracts, but an MOU is a handshake put to paper, has no legal standing

And frankly, to say VooPoo is ripping off the Pulse design is :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

There were many, many, many squonkers looking and "designed" like the Pulse way before the Pulse was ever put up for sale.

Squonker designs are just about the same: a body, a hole, a BF 510, a bottle; electronics optional. The rest depends on the quality of the materials, and where they are placed - that is it.
 

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I do not support Vapor Trail or Heathen *shrugs*

While I understand Tony is pissed and disappointed, this shit is really between VooPoo and VandyVape - and I highly doubt the two had an actual sales contract, most probably they merely had a memorandum of understanding - both are contracts, but an MOU is a handshake put to paper, has no legal standing

And frankly, to say VooPoo is ripping off the Pulse design is :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

There were many, many, many squonkers looking and "designed" like the Pulse way before the Pulse was ever put up for sale.

Squonker designs are just about the same: a body, a hole, a BF 510, a bottle; electronics optional. The rest depends on the quality of the materials, and where they are placed - that is it.
Preach! So true Juicy Lu :)

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