Squonkers are Bonkers

[Arthur-VU]

Yeah I'm hoping to retire a little early by the end of the year which will mean a dramatic drop in income - so I'm loading up on parts to keep my stuff in good condition, well parts and top of the line atomizers, can't seem to hoard those fast enough

Been vapocalypse stashing since well before the deeming regs were published, so gear is not an issue - especially being a mech head - except I always worry the atties won't last forever

I used to be an IT consultant and the money was very good, since I was good at my job and always in demand.

After that I became a founding partner in a startup, and have been living off the money I smartly stashed away during that time as a consultant. We are to present to a VC firm soon, but until then, I have to pretend I am poor and have a spending allowance, just in case we do not get funded that I have money to live on afterwards until I figure our what to do next...

Back in Oct 2017 I started acquiring mods that I could tear-down and maybe repair (I am pretty decent with electronics and have been able to use a soldering iron and multimeter since I was a teenager [feels like a long time ago ], and also when I got the Pulse BF, I studied up on mechs and even more on Ohms law and read and watched everything I could find that Mooch put out for battery safety.

I have to get a few more mech devices and have been thinking about investing in some tools like a lathe and getting some billets of naval brass and copper so I can actually make my own mods and atomizers if needed later on. yes, this is very hardcore, but for me, it's "all or nothing" otherwise I'm not satisfied and it's like "why bother?"

I am also likely to stockpile some DNA boards as well, just in case Evolve decides to suicide themselves.

However, due to being on a budget, I have to set aside money for all the above, with my future unknown, and it needs to happen slower rather than faster, since insurance, food and rent gets paid before there is money I can think of using for vaping.

 

[jasonandsarah]

In the spirit of FB, +1

X1

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[BrewBear]

X1

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X1 on that, then!

 

[MrMeowgi]

SS 28g 5 wrap parrallel would be .27

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Went with a tiger coil to see how that works out 6wrap .41... 26ss *8 x1 A little higher than I like so I'll have to see. Just wanna stay below the 50watts of the pico.

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[The Cromwell]

Went with a tiger coil to see how that works out 6wrap .41... 26ss *8 x1 A little higher than I like so I'll have to see. Just wanna stay below the 50watts of the pico.

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Been running .34 in my wasp on picos for a couple of months now. Started out with .25 in the. was a bit warm for me but worked fine.
Using 25R's that are a couple of years old.
Tried new VTC5A's in ther and it was a bit too hot for me.
the VTC5A's do not sag as much as the 25R's do.

 

[voicenyerhed]

Does one of the 510 pins have a smaller screw/pin in it? Some of the 510 pins are a two part type, you unscrew the smaller screw to open the bf pin.

I will check that tomorrow, accidentally left it at work today.

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[voicenyerhed]

Whats the reg pin look like? I have some extras laying around

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I'll post a pic tomorrow if I can't find a fix for it. Thanx!

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[ben73]

Thanks for the reply and the suggestion.

However this one is a done deal for me. Payment has been made for the Inbox v3.

One issue with regard the the Inbox is that I got to hold one in-hand in a local shop, so I am familiar with the hand-feel. The Marvec is unknown to me in this regard.

The reason I sold my Drone was because it was too big and heavy and felt like I was vaping from a 3 lb brick in my hand.

Another issue with regards to finding info on the Marvec squonker, is that there just wasn't much, and what I did find was not over a span of time showing reliability and build quality.

Maybe it's too new, but the Inbox has had 3 iterations now, and by all accounts is a solid mod and holds up over time, and there's lots of reviews and user reports to pull from. If the chip dies, I can always source another DNA75 board and swap it out myself. This was also a deciding factor against getting the RSQ or the Pulse 80w.

Lastly, I dont use and never will use Facebook. They are an evil and predatory company that monetizes your interests while raping your privacy as often as possible. Even with a fake name, I am not feeding into their data-mining operations. I get along just fine without them. other folks might love Facebook. To each his own. I do not judge.

But remember:

'if the SERVICE is free, then YOU are the product being SOLD to 3rd-parties unknown, and you in fact consented to this as per when you ticked the box "I agree" when you created your account"

Sold my inbox , its older chip an bottle system wasnt to clever. Although they have the softer types out now , doors are never flush , its side sqounker an hole isnt big enough either ends up coming off stuck to your thumb or finger but as a starter mod i suppose its ok,
There plenty of doors to choose from lots to customise it with but does need a bigger hole within the door.

There nothing about other mod as its new, so time will tell
but has the newer dna chip also wont get weak battery as easy as older 75 chip does,
although there's a work around for that,
Fits multiple cell type compared to just 18650s
An the FB IDK its not sold on FB

That was just a pic of some so called high end sqounker that happens to look the same. So irrelevant with the older chip as the bf priest comes in 3 types a regulated mosfet type with usb charger
Dna 75 an dna 75c.

Like i say i have had VT inboxes myself there ok for a regulated mod , theres Quirks with most mods TBH none are perfect for everyone

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[MrMeowgi]

Been running .34 in my wasp on picos for a couple of months now. Started out with .25 in the. was a bit warm for me but worked fine.
Using 25R's that are a couple of years old.
Tried new VTC5A's in ther and it was a bit too hot for me.
the VTC5A's do not sag as much as the 25R's do.

Yea I'll have to take off one wrap I'm afraid. Just not enough umph. But for tonight I'm done. Thanks for everyone's help.

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[The Cromwell]

Yea I'll have to take off one wrap I'm afraid. Just not enough umph. But for tonight I'm done. Thanks for everyone's help.

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yep one wrap would be about right.
Or use VTC5A?

 

[ben73]

Well got hold of a clone Le Concorde RDA bf ,
Been enjoying a ni80 26 x2 / 36g @.32 ohm in there Airflow wide open
Been doing well on the stab fet mod

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[Arthur-VU]

Sold my inbox , its older chip an bottle system wasnt to clever. Although they have the softer types out now , doors are never flush , its side sqounker an hole isnt big enough either ends up coming off stuck to your thumb or finger but as a starter mod i suppose its ok,
There plenty of doors to choose from lots to customise it with but does need a bigger hole within the door.

There nothing about other mod as its new, so time will tell
but has the newer dna chip also wont get weak battery as easy as older 75 chip does,
although there's a work around for that,
Fits multiple cell type compared to just 18650s
An the FB IDK its not sold on FB

That was just a pic of some so called high end sqounker that happens to look the same. So irrelevant with the older chip as the bf priest comes in 3 types a regulated mosfet type with usb charger
Dna 75 an dna 75c.

Like i say i have had VT inboxes myself there ok for a regulated mod , theres Quirks with most mods TBH none are perfect for everyone

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Thanks for the reply and the info.

If the hole in the door is too small for me, I can always make it larger with various tools, and Inbox doors are not expensive right now for the stock models in case I mess up and need to replace it.

I typically thumb-fire with my left hand, so if I can get my thumb into the hole and reach the bottle, I should be fine.

I've not used an edge-squonker and on the Pulse BF, always had to change my grip anyway for the 3-4 squeezes of the bottle, so it's no biggie for me.

 

[ben73]

You can cheaply get a 3-pack of the 2 most popular threaded-sizes of M2.5 or M3 squonk pins from ModMaker in the UK.

This is where I got the BF pin for my Goon v1. They are longer than necessary so that you can customized it by filing/cutting or using the dremel to your preference to fit your RDA.

if you trim it, just be sure to burnish (or file smooth @ a 45 degree angle) at the start of the threads and remove any burrs so it threads easily and also to avoid cutting yourself as the edges will be quite razor sharp.

If using a dremel, it will be hot enough to give you 3rd degree burns on your fingers, so wait for it to cool or dip in some water to anneal it.

I had to remove about 2mm from the length for this to fit the Goon v1 without it hitting both of the posts in the center and connecting them, which would have caused a hard short.

Photo:

They also sell the hex allen key that fits these too, which is linked on the page for each.

Links are below:

For the M2.5 thread:
http://www.modmaker.co.uk/Mod-Makin...ts/RDA-Squonk-Conversion-M2.5-Screw-Pack-of-3

For the M3 thread:
http://www.modmaker.co.uk/RDA-Squonk-Conversion-M3-Screw-Pack-of-3

I bought a pack of each and the allen key too just in case, and it was delivered 9 days later to me in NJ, USA from the UK. So I was pretty happy with that. Especially since nearly ALL USA vendors selling a Goon squonk pin want $20 for the pin, and then charge $10 for shipping.

Total cost to me for these items, including shipping from ModMaker was like $20, because Royal Mail shipping was $14, but still better value for money that they USA vendors, at least to me, with getting 6x total squonk pins and the allen key to match them.

Also, the M2.5 bf pin fits the Velocity v1 nicely, which I have not trimmed the length so it leaves a bit of juice in the well since the exit hole of the pin is about 3mm above the bottom of the juice well. I like it this way.

Hope this helps!

There is some on Amazon US too longer bf pins , I ordered some last year 18mm i think they where, but usually only sold in pkts of 10 ,

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[R3alJim Shady]

Anyone stateside ever ordering anything from Hazetown Vapes in Toronto? How long does shipping typically take with the cheapest shipping option. I ordered a B2K cap and I’m wondering when to expect it.


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[ben73]

Thanks for the reply and the info.

If the hole in the door is too small for me, I can always make it larger with various tools, and Inbox doors are not expensive right now for the stock models in case I mess up and need to replace it.

I typically thumb-fire with my left hand, so if I can get my thumb into the hole and reach the bottle, I should be fine.

I've not used an edge-squonker and on the Pulse BF, always had to change my grip anyway for the 3-4 squeezes of the bottle, so it's no biggie for me.

Is the one you ordered the new type silicone bottles with tube ,so can fit other makes of bottles?

Or the older propierty bottles , Fasttech sell the softer versions clear ones makes it easier to Sqounk with

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[RonJS]

I'll post a pic tomorrow if I can't find a fix for it. Thanx!

Have you considered the instructions in the "sticky"

 

[Arthur-VU]

There is some on Amazon US too longer bf pins , I ordered some last year 18mm i think they where, but usually only sold in pkts of 10 ,

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I actually bought a pack of those or similar from Amazon, but the end with the 'nut' where you insert the hex driver to screw in, was in fact too large by about 1.5mm to fit within the inside diameter of the threaded 510 area on the bottom of ALL of my RDAs, so I never got a chance to try them because had I tried to use it the 4mm length of the 'nut' area would have protruded enough that the threads would never get purchase on the 510 of any of my mods, and without an insulator in place, I would have been looking at a hard short if it did catch the threads.

The ModMaker ones I linked to above in this thread work nicely.

 

[Arthur-VU]

Is the one you ordered the new type silicone bottles with tube ,so can fit other makes of bottles?

Or the older propierty bottles , Fasttech sell the softer versions clear ones makes it easier to Sqounk with

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Thanks for the reply.

Yes, it is the v3, which I linked to previously in this thread the exact one I purchased here on VU from another member, and thus has the silicone bottles. I have been researching squonk mods for the past 9 months, and have 2 mech squonkers already since Oct 2017.

I do not like the plastic bottles. I have hand problems and cannot use them, but the silicone bottles in all of my other squonkers work just fine for me.

 

[snake94115]

http://www.vandyvape.com/detail/atomizer/63/

That ain't even close to the Hcigar maze which came with the VT Inbox.

^^^^ That's the original above ^^^^

 

[shawn.hoefer]

That ain't even close to the Hcigar maze which came with the VT Inbox.

^^^^ That's the original above ^^^^

The Vandy Vape maze is named for the coil heads. Quite honestly, it's pretty terrible...

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[JuicyLucy]

The Vandy Vape maze is named for the coil heads. Quite honestly, it's pretty terrible...

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Ah, the Vandy Vape sucky Maze - not to be confused with the Hcigar Suckass Maze

 

[snake94115]

Ok pico squeezers. Trying to figure out how low can I build? I usually roam around.23-.25... Just checking though

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That should be fine from what I know of the Pico Squeeze.
@The Cromwell says it has a much higher than listed max output.Just keep that in mind and you'll be good to go.

 

[The Cromwell]

The Vandy Vape maze is named for the coil heads. Quite honestly, it's pretty terrible...

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Yep looks like an electric range 'burner'.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

Yep looks like an electric range 'burner'.

Odd thing is, I kinda like the coil that ships with the Aspire Revvo, and their close to the same thing...

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[snake94115]

I don't have another. I've never been a dripper, I've always used tanks.

I know I'll end up just buying another atty in the long run & I figured this one wouldn't be the best but I was stoked to at least try squonking right away. Still, I'm closer than I was yesterday?

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There's a plethora of cheap good RSA's out there.
Hell the (Wasp Nano RDA by Oumier) can be had for less than $14

https://eciggity.com/wasp-nano-rda-by-oumier/

Use code (reddit10) to snag 1 for $13.49

 

[ben73]

I actually bought a pack of those or similar from Amazon, but the end with the 'nut' where you insert the hex driver to screw in, was in fact too large by about 1.5mm to fit within the inside diameter of the threaded 510 area on the bottom of ALL of my RDAs, so I never got a chance to try them because had I tried to use it the 4mm length of the 'nut' area would have protruded enough that the threads would never get purchase on the 510 of any of my mods, and without an insulator in place, I would have been looking at a hard short if it did catch the threads.

The ModMaker ones I linked to above in this thread work nicely.

That depends on size you bought m3 m 2.5 , the ones i bought are only bigger in length ,
I have a few in my spares boxes from mod maker, Amazon , Fasttech 3f vapes and fat daddy vapes bought them 18ths ago before most of these sqounker / bf rda,s where out ,
so had to convert most yourself,
An some times the longer ones where needed for certain RDA,s 8mm an 12mm where not long enough , as long as your choosing the right size to fit the 510 posative pin , some RDA had the longer 510 threading for hybrid connection on mods.
And back then some needed to be filled depends on what RDA it was used with , the ones i got are no different to the MM bf 510 pins other than longer by 6mm

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The mod maker ones actually have the taller head on them that requires filing
Where as the longer bf pins from Amazon have smaller so maybe you picked up different sizes to what i did the 4 that are same are mod maker think there either 10 or 12mm long where as the other is 18mm maybe which was from Amazon. and smaller head an opposite side of MM is one i cut down a little

 

[snake94115]

The Vandy Vape maze is named for the coil heads. Quite honestly, it's pretty terrible...

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Yep fully aware of the complete suckage of that thing.I'm starting to believe any RDA/RSA named (Maze) is going to suck big green donkey schlong.

 

[snake94115]

Yep looks like an electric range 'burner'.

Vapes less effectively than said range burner.

 

[snake94115]

Odd thing is, I kinda like the coil that ships with the Aspire Revvo, and their close to the same thing...

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2 Tanks enter neither tank wins...Sad really.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

2 Tanks enter neither tank wins...Sad really.

Nah... The Revvo ain't bad. Ain't great, but... And, I'm told that its a modifies Revvo that will be shipping with the Aspire squonker.

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[shawn.hoefer]

Yep fully aware of the complete suckage of that thing.I'm starting to believe any RDA/RSA named (Maze) is going to suck big green donkey schlong.

See, I don't really mind the HCigar Maze... It's a little too easy to oversquonk, but I find the air, valor and flavor acceptable.

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[chohan]

Loving this pico. Feels so good in the hand, hits hard and the lil' buger is so tiny. Did I mention that I cancelled my Luxotic order at FT and ordered two more? I feel so dirty.

 

[ben73]

Just had a look at this ehpro Iguana BF mod
Looks nice might be coming out soon .

https://www.vapinginsider.com/forum...iew-by-mjag-oh-momma-you-wanna-see-this.4130/

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[RSZ1]

What sorcery is this parallel coil?

Never tried one before, but thanks to The Cromwell, the virtues of a parallel coil have been revealed to me.

The "posts" on a B2K are kind of far apart, which leaves you the option of a wide ass coil, or a spaced coil. Spaced coils always leave some flavor on the table I find. Too wide of a coil, and your ohms start to get up quite high.

Enter the parallel coil. Two strands of 24 gauge SS316L 3mm around 6 turns is giving me 0.2ohms. The heat up time on such a mass of wire is really fast, like sorcery fast, it just doesn't make much sense. Even battery life is good on a DNA75C. Works perfect in TC, very stable, and the flavor is amazing.

Thank you, The Cromwell.

Can't wait for my squeeze and wasp to show up to try out a parallel coil in there.

 

[MrMeowgi]

What sorcery is this parallel coil?

Never tried one before, but thanks to The Cromwell, the virtues of a parallel coil have been revealed to me.

The "posts" on a B2K are kind of far apart, which leaves you the option of a wide ass coil, or a spaced coil. Spaced coils always leave some flavor on the table I find. Too wide of a coil, and your ohms start to get up quite high.

Enter the parallel coil. Two strands of 24 gauge SS316L 3mm around 6 turns is giving me 0.2ohms. The heat up time on such a mass of wire is really fast, like sorcery fast, it just doesn't make much sense. Even battery life is good on a DNA75C. Works perfect in TC, very stable, and the flavor is amazing.

Thank you, The Cromwell.

Can't wait for my squeeze and wasp to show up to try out a parallel coil in there.

I love a parallel coil just been stuck on fused claptons lately.

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[~Don~]

What sorcery is this parallel coil?

Never tried one before, but thanks to The Cromwell, the virtues of a parallel coil have been revealed to me.

The "posts" on a B2K are kind of far apart, which leaves you the option of a wide ass coil, or a spaced coil. Spaced coils always leave some flavor on the table I find. Too wide of a coil, and your ohms start to get up quite high.

Enter the parallel coil. Two strands of 24 gauge SS316L 3mm around 6 turns is giving me 0.2ohms. The heat up time on such a mass of wire is really fast, like sorcery fast, it just doesn't make much sense. Even battery life is good on a DNA75C. Works perfect in TC, very stable, and the flavor is amazing.

Thank you, The Cromwell.

Can't wait for my squeeze and wasp to show up to try out a parallel coil in there.

I actually have some parallels in my squonks also...almost a week now. 26N80 3mm 5/6 wraps .30... ever so slight spacing...enjoying them.

Sat down last week to make some coils and figured to take it easy and run parallels... only a mass of like 150

 

[Train]

Interesting, but I don't understand the RDA airflow. Where do those bottom ports go to?

Just had a look at this ehpro Iguana BF mod
Looks nice might be coming out soon .

https://www.vapinginsider.com/forum...iew-by-mjag-oh-momma-you-wanna-see-this.4130/

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Nevermind - found it
Airflow comes right from under the coil and the squonk feeder holes are on either side, right were you lay your cotton down.....brilliant!

 

[jasonandsarah]

Interesting, but I don't understand the RDA airflow. Where do those bottom ports go to?




Nevermind - found it
Airflow comes right from under the coil and the squonk feeder holes are on either side, right were you lay your cotton down.....brilliant!

Think it's the big hole in the middle, that's why it's raised so you dont over squonk into it?

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[~Don~]

I'm curious about all the juice in the center hole of that pic... over time I see that leaking out the bottom where the 510 pin is if not out the AFC.

 

[voicenyerhed]

Thank you to everyone for all your help with my unsquonkable squonk kit, but I have the patience of a 2 yr old and so I scrounged up some coinage and managed to get myself an iJoy combo RDA. I've been puffing on this sucker all day and I have to say that I am not having any buyers remorse. I am now a happy happy man!

 

[fartbubble]

tax refund time and I've got no clue what I want ;_;

 

[The Cromwell]

What sorcery is this parallel coil?

Never tried one before, but thanks to The Cromwell, the virtues of a parallel coil have been revealed to me.

The "posts" on a B2K are kind of far apart, which leaves you the option of a wide ass coil, or a spaced coil. Spaced coils always leave some flavor on the table I find. Too wide of a coil, and your ohms start to get up quite high.

Enter the parallel coil. Two strands of 24 gauge SS316L 3mm around 6 turns is giving me 0.2ohms. The heat up time on such a mass of wire is really fast, like sorcery fast, it just doesn't make much sense. Even battery life is good on a DNA75C. Works perfect in TC, very stable, and the flavor is amazing.

Thank you, The Cromwell.

Can't wait for my squeeze and wasp to show up to try out a parallel coil in there.

Welcome.

However a gentleman that went by the handle of Boden over on ECF convinced me on parallel coils.

 

[shawn.hoefer]

tax refund time and I've got no clue what I want ;_;

I'm pretty sure you want to buy me a new stabwood Squonk.

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[BrewBear]

There was that white limelight mod with juuust a dab of orange for contrast!

 

[SteelDriver]

Welcome.

However a gentleman that went by the handle of Boden over on ECF convinced me on parallel coils.

it's just a 2wire fused un Clapton

 

[The Cromwell]

it's just a 2wire fused un Clapton

Yep and I prefer mine slightly spaced.

 

[MrMeowgi]

tax refund time and I've got no clue what I want ;_;

I got a nice white REO squonk mod you could purchase

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[~Don~]

tax refund time and I've got no clue what I want ;_;

Only when you don't have the money, you then know a few things you'd like.

I still have a few months before I actually have positive vape budget money again.

 

[snake94115]

What sorcery is this parallel coil?

Never tried one before, but thanks to The Cromwell, the virtues of a parallel coil have been revealed to me.

The "posts" on a B2K are kind of far apart, which leaves you the option of a wide ass coil, or a spaced coil. Spaced coils always leave some flavor on the table I find. Too wide of a coil, and your ohms start to get up quite high.

Enter the parallel coil. Two strands of 24 gauge SS316L 3mm around 6 turns is giving me 0.2ohms. The heat up time on such a mass of wire is really fast, like sorcery fast, it just doesn't make much sense. Even battery life is good on a DNA75C. Works perfect in TC, very stable, and the flavor is amazing.

Thank you, The Cromwell.

Can't wait for my squeeze and wasp to show up to try out a parallel coil in there.

Triple Twist some 32g for even quicker ramp up.Thin wire heats up faster than thick as I recall.

 

[snake94115]

I'm curious about all the juice in the center hole of that pic... over time I see that leaking out the bottom where the 510 pin is if not out the AFC.

What juice where?