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Got a VV Pulse 80W from the hardware thread the other day. I like this thing so much! Put a C4 on it, 0.31 ohms.

Just wanted to tell somebody.
I bet that is a really good setup. :) Still might need to get a C4 here. Not sure why past me decided as he did and missed up on it. Oh well, not been a terrible regret yet one of those off in the back of the mind, shiny bits. Will just need to get one and be done. *chuckles*
 
I would say no. I’ve got a Rebellion and I had to modify the removable internal backplate to get one to fit and even then the door didn’t sit 100% flush I think the Ultem is just a one piece design inside so don’t think you could do anything with that. You should be able to get it in height wise but it’ll make your door stick out a couple of mm and will make it rock back and forth.
 

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I would say no. I’ve got a Rebellion and I had to modify the removable internal backplate to get one to fit and even then the door didn’t sit 100% flush I think the Ultem is just a one piece design inside so don’t think you could do anything with that. You should be able to get it in height wise but it’ll make your door stick out a couple of mm and will make it rock back and forth.
That's what I figured - it said it was made for a 20700, I thought maybe there was a chance but not likely. Thank you for the response.
 

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Trying something a bit different for myself today. Today's kit is an aluminum Coppervape single 18650 mod with a U.S. 1 V2 RDA a.k.a Trinity RDA. The difference I am doing today is instead of a single coil, using dual coil. Got two coils each 26 awg SS316L wrapped around 3 mm inner diameter 10 times. This gives me a μ 0.35 Ω for the over all build. It seems to be doing alright.

Did have another battery issue this morning. Still unsure why the battery decided to get hot. I am thinking that a few batteries in my stock are reaching end of life cycle. That being the case I charge them the "last" time, unaware that is the "last" time, try using them and they decide upon burning up. Really not able to define any other reason for them acting this way. My mod is clean, the area around is relatively clean and free of metals. I'm not doing anything "out of hand" with the batteries.

That leaves me to think they are taking an "end of life cycle" dump. I may need to become better organized and start marking, tracking number of charges a battery takes. Not an enjoyable feeling, feeling aluminum get hot and realizing it is from the battery.

I'm glad of the model of mod I use being easy to break contact. I pull the top away, unscrew the bottom battery cap, eject the battery and set it aside to cool. Rather not have that happen at all though, and therein lies my quandary, think I'm being responsible enough with battery use and care. Not sure why over the past little while now, about three batteries have gotten hot.

Once they do that, I put them aside for later disposal. Sorry, but no, I'm not going to use them again once they cool off. At any given my dual coil is doing alright.
 

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Trying something a bit different for myself today. Today's kit is an aluminum Coppervape single 18650 mod with a U.S. 1 V2 RDA a.k.a Trinity RDA. The difference I am doing today is instead of a single coil, using dual coil. Got two coils each 26 awg SS316L wrapped around 3 mm inner diameter 10 times. This gives me a μ 0.35 Ω for the over all build. It seems to be doing alright.

Did have another battery issue this morning. Still unsure why the battery decided to get hot. I am thinking that a few batteries in my stock are reaching end of life cycle. That being the case I charge them the "last" time, unaware that is the "last" time, try using them and they decide upon burning up. Really not able to define any other reason for them acting this way. My mod is clean, the area around is relatively clean and free of metals. I'm not doing anything "out of hand" with the batteries.

That leaves me to think they are taking an "end of life cycle" dump. I may need to become better organized and start marking, tracking number of charges a battery takes. Not an enjoyable feeling, feeling aluminum get hot and realizing it is from the battery.

I'm glad of the model of mod I use being easy to break contact. I pull the top away, unscrew the bottom battery cap, eject the battery and set it aside to cool. Rather not have that happen at all though, and therein lies my quandary, think I'm being responsible enough with battery use and care. Not sure why over the past little while now, about three batteries have gotten hot.

Once they do that, I put them aside for later disposal. Sorry, but no, I'm not going to use them again once they cool off. At any given my dual coil is doing alright.
You're doing the right thing, not trying to use them again. Better to err on the side of caution, which is perhaps not an error at all. :)
 

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Trying something a bit different for myself today. Today's kit is an aluminum Coppervape single 18650 mod with a U.S. 1 V2 RDA a.k.a Trinity RDA. The difference I am doing today is instead of a single coil, using dual coil. Got two coils each 26 awg SS316L wrapped around 3 mm inner diameter 10 times. This gives me a μ 0.35 Ω for the over all build. It seems to be doing alright.

Did have another battery issue this morning. Still unsure why the battery decided to get hot. I am thinking that a few batteries in my stock are reaching end of life cycle. That being the case I charge them the "last" time, unaware that is the "last" time, try using them and they decide upon burning up. Really not able to define any other reason for them acting this way. My mod is clean, the area around is relatively clean and free of metals. I'm not doing anything "out of hand" with the batteries.

That leaves me to think they are taking an "end of life cycle" dump. I may need to become better organized and start marking, tracking number of charges a battery takes. Not an enjoyable feeling, feeling aluminum get hot and realizing it is from the battery.

I'm glad of the model of mod I use being easy to break contact. I pull the top away, unscrew the bottom battery cap, eject the battery and set it aside to cool. Rather not have that happen at all though, and therein lies my quandary, think I'm being responsible enough with battery use and care. Not sure why over the past little while now, about three batteries have gotten hot.

Once they do that, I put them aside for later disposal. Sorry, but no, I'm not going to use them again once they cool off. At any given my dual coil is doing alright.
You really can't be too cautious when it comes to battery safety but be careful.
The fact that you've had the same issue with the same mod twice in the last 24 hours would make me very suspicious of the mod.
I had the exact same issue with my first ever Coppervape. It turned out to be the contacts in the top were shorting out.
It was my fault, I bought it used and took it all apart to clean it and I had something wrong when I put it all back together.

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The fact that you've had the same issue with the same mod twice in the last 24 hours would make me very suspicious of the mod.
Apologies if seems I wrote that this was the same issue in a 24 hour period. It actually isn't in the same 24 hour period. Rather it has happened over about a week to two weeks apart.

Can understand the concern over the contacts. Have examined them but not noticed anything which would seem detrimental. On the other hand, I know that some of my batteries were purchased roughly a year ago, or more.

While I do not exactly push batteries I use hard, they are used. Meaning that I charge them when first got, let them rest, use them and start cycling them in that charging, rest, use, charging process. Again, I like to ensure I have a 20% buffer of "head space" on the batteries in use. So, that helps avoid pushing too hard.

I think it is as I'm thinking, the batteries are just reaching end of life cycle. As I state, I'm not too keen on keeping count of how many times any particular gets recharged. I know that on average it is suggested a battery might have 300 recharges available. Not counting the recharges, I get caught unaware of the "end of life" cycle for a battery.

So I am taught now, "code" my batteries and track how many times they each get recharged. Probably likely I ought to have done that already. My error and got no problem owning that. Got no problem if it was the device letting the device own it, either. Though I can see how it is more likely human error. Probably also human error to even mention it. Seems I'm wrong no matter the case, not that I need to be correct, yet I have trouble seeing being wrong all the time.
 

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Bout time you figured it out. What kind of squonk do you have?
I was lucky. Not long after I came back to vaping I won a Squonk. I love them now! Best way to vape. You get an rda for flavor and a large liquid bottle. What's not to love.
Rigmod rsq. Works like a champ
 

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Apologies if seems I wrote that this was the same issue in a 24 hour period. It actually isn't in the same 24 hour period. Rather it has happened over about a week to two weeks apart.

Can understand the concern over the contacts. Have examined them but not noticed anything which would seem detrimental. On the other hand, I know that some of my batteries were purchased roughly a year ago, or more.

While I do not exactly push batteries I use hard, they are used. Meaning that I charge them when first got, let them rest, use them and start cycling them in that charging, rest, use, charging process. Again, I like to ensure I have a 20% buffer of "head space" on the batteries in use. So, that helps avoid pushing too hard.

I think it is as I'm thinking, the batteries are just reaching end of life cycle. As I state, I'm not too keen on keeping count of how many times any particular gets recharged. I know that on average it is suggested a battery might have 300 recharges available. Not counting the recharges, I get caught unaware of the "end of life" cycle for a battery.

So I am taught now, "code" my batteries and track how many times they each get recharged. Probably likely I ought to have done that already. My error and got no problem owning that. Got no problem if it was the device letting the device own it, either. Though I can see how it is more likely human error. Probably also human error to even mention it. Seems I'm wrong no matter the case, not that I need to be correct, yet I have trouble seeing being wrong all the time.
Unless you use the same battery pretty much daily, they should last more than a year. I have seen some 18650s last for multiple years. I have a set of 3 year old batteries that are still just fine, but they get light use. A buddy of mine has had a set of 18650s for almost 5 years of fairly regular use and internal resistance and mah tests show they are still good. They still cycle fine.

I would also agree that something may be off about the mod. Possibly not an obvious issue, but definitely worth a thorough breakdown and examination. The possibility of two batteries failing the same way in a mod in a short timeframe is unlikely to be due to the batteries, and much more likely to be a mod based issue.
 

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Unless you use the same battery pretty much daily
That sometimes may even be the case. Although not sure as I state, do not label or code the batteries. It is likely though.

he possibility of two batteries failing the same way in a mod in a short timeframe is unlikely to be due to the batteries, and much more likely to be a mod based issue.
It may also be in part due to light use of Ox-Gard. Then, it could be as you & @gadget! suggest too. Might also be phases of the moon. In any case I'm down two less batteries.

Will probably check the contacts again today. Might even break it down, re-install a fresh contact kit.

Update: Mon Sep 23 08:55:40 EDT 2019

Thanks for the gentle nags both of you. I definitely needed that to break being stubborn. And it turns out you are both very likely correct.

Took it down and right away saw the "light" use of Ox-Gard had gone too far again. No wonder I missed that the black o-ring on the fire screw had been melted away. So, it was running without that as insulation. I replaced the o-ring, cleaned up all the Ox-Gard, reset the whole contacts unit. So now, I can say for sure it won't be that for a while.

Silly me needs to break it down more often.
 
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That sometimes may even be the case. Although not sure as I state, do not label or code the batteries. It is likely though.


It may also be in part due to light use of Ox-Gard. Then, it could be as you & @gadget! suggest too. Might also be phases of the moon. In any case I'm down two less batteries.

Will probably check the contacts again today. Might even break it down, re-install a fresh contact kit.

Update: Mon Sep 23 08:55:40 EDT 2019

Thanks for the gentle nags both of you. I definitely needed that to break being stubborn. And it turns out you are both very likely correct.

Took it down and right away saw the "light" use of Ox-Gard had gone too far again. No wonder I missed that the black o-ring on the fire screw had been melted away. So, it was running without that as insulation. I replaced the o-ring, cleaned up all the Ox-Gard, reset the whole contacts unit. So now, I can say for sure it won't be that for a while.

Silly me needs to break it down more often.
Glad you didn't have a disaster. I've been labeling my batteries when I buy them with the month and year and whether they're married or singles. But I need to make sure I'm rotating them and not simply using the same ones constantly. Good reminder.

@Syythe and others, is there a way to measure or predict end of battery life by checking resistance?
 
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That sometimes may even be the case. Although not sure as I state, do not label or code the batteries. It is likely though.



It may also be in part due to light use of Ox-Gard. Then, it could be as you & @gadget! suggest too. Might also be phases of the moon. In any case I'm down two less batteries.

Will probably check the contacts again today. Might even break it down, re-install a fresh contact kit.

Update: Mon Sep 23 08:55:40 EDT 2019

Thanks for the gentle nags both of you. I definitely needed that to break being stubborn. And it turns out you are both very likely correct.

Took it down and right away saw the "light" use of Ox-Gard had gone too far again. No wonder I missed that the black o-ring on the fire screw had been melted away. So, it was running without that as insulation. I replaced the o-ring, cleaned up all the Ox-Gard, reset the whole contacts unit. So now, I can say for sure it won't be that for a while.

Silly me needs to break it down more often.
There are no stubborn people in this forum. None. Whatsoever. :)

Teasing you now, be nice to yourself. :hug:
 

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That sometimes may even be the case. Although not sure as I state, do not label or code the batteries. It is likely though.



It may also be in part due to light use of Ox-Gard. Then, it could be as you & @gadget! suggest too. Might also be phases of the moon. In any case I'm down two less batteries.

Will probably check the contacts again today. Might even break it down, re-install a fresh contact kit.

Update: Mon Sep 23 08:55:40 EDT 2019

Thanks for the gentle nags both of you. I definitely needed that to break being stubborn. And it turns out you are both very likely correct.

Took it down and right away saw the "light" use of Ox-Gard had gone too far again. No wonder I missed that the black o-ring on the fire screw had been melted away. So, it was running without that as insulation. I replaced the o-ring, cleaned up all the Ox-Gard, reset the whole contacts unit. So now, I can say for sure it won't be that for a while.

Silly me needs to break it down more often.
Glad you found the issue. When it comes to mechs, caution is your friend. If I have any issues, even if I'm certain it was from something other than the mod, I tend to break down the mod anyway just to ease my mind. Never hurts to be sure.
 

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Glad you found the issue. When it comes to mechs, caution is your friend. If I have any issues, even if I'm certain it was from something other than the mod, I tend to break down the mod anyway just to ease my mind. Never hurts to be sure.
So I am learning as well, now. Did not mind the "nag" at all, in fact glad to have had it from two of the betters out there. Not sure I would have gotten around to seeing it. This morning after seeing two suggest the same thing, give me the nudge needed. Thank you both, again. :)
 

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What other RDA's are like a Haku Venna? I love this thing!

If anyone's interested I will have a hadeon for sale soon. Black cap has a scuff but chrome hadeon and entheon caps are in great shape.
 
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What other RDA's are like a Haku Venna? I love this thing!

If anyone's interested I will have a hadeon for sale soon. Black cap has a scuff but chrome hadeon and entheon caps are in great shape.
Odis is probably the closest comparison.

I liked the Venna... owned #73 and sold it... had some issues with its design that just forced its way out of my rotation. Thought the Haku Phenom with the shorter cap performed better. If they made just the top hole cap for the Venna I may of kept it. But Haku’s in my opinion are louder than I like, and their tolerances aren’t the greatest .

My 2 favorite RSAs is the Le Concord and NarDa


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Odis is probably the closest comparison.

I liked the Venna... owned #73 and sold it... had some issues with its design that just forced its way out of my rotation. Thought the Haku Phenom with the shorter cap performed better. If they made just the top hole cap for the Venna I may of kept it. But Haku’s in my opinion are louder than I like, and their tolerances aren’t the greatest .

My 2 favorite RSAs is the Le Concord and NarDa


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Interesting, I bought the vena because I enjoyed the Haku phenom clone I had. Wow, I really like this one! .28 on the SQ and it's a really nice vape! I haven't left home with this set up considering the SQ is for sale for now. I've never enjoyed this high of ohm coil in a mech before this Venna. I am impressed!
 

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Interesting, I bought the vena because I enjoyed the Haku phenom clone I had. Wow, I really like this one! .28 on the SQ and it's a really nice vape! I haven't left home with this set up considering the SQ is for sale for now. I've never enjoyed this high of ohm coil in a mech before this Venna. I am impressed!
Then you would enjoy the Le Concorde... I normally build it to like .82-1Ω and use it on the single hole or choke it down to 1.5 holes... much more flavorful vape and doesn't get tip warm like the Venna did/does
 

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What other RDA's are like a Haku Venna? I love this thing!

If anyone's interested I will have a hadeon for sale soon. Black cap has a scuff but chrome hadeon and entheon caps are in great shape.
I found that I like the KRMA rda just as much as, if not more than, the Venna. I keep going back and forth. Definitely worth looking into.
 

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I may be a lil late to the squonk party... but 2nd squonk is on the way. 1 isnt enough(though i feel i will say the same about a dozen, lol).
 

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I did it. Red Pico Squeeze 2's are on sale so I bought one. I don't need it but I love my Squeeze 2 and couldn't pass up the price. Now if I could only afford a really nice squonk I'll be really happy! But I'll be happy enough with 2 Pico Squeeze 2s in addition to the other squonks I have!
 

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Bout time you figured it out. What kind of squonk do you have?
I was lucky. Not long after I came back to vaping I won a Squonk. I love them now! Best way to vape. You get an rda for flavor and a large liquid bottle. What's not to love.
Last fall I won a halloween contest. I got a mod, tank, and a RDA. I'd used older RDAs but didn't like them. I much preferred RTAs. Anyways, I decided I wanted to try the new one out. I wasn't going to drip ejuice all day so looked for a squonk mod. Eightvape had Aspire Feedlinks for $20 plus a holiday code, so I got one. I had no idea what kind of coil to use, to get it going to my liking (direct output just like a Pico Squeeze).

I decided to get @Shredtravolta involved. I saw the thread he made Coils for Postage. It was like a perfect storm lol. I explained what I had, and asked him for a coil that would make my setup hum. He sent me a N80 framed Alien, and a few others. But holy hell, that's the best vape I'd experienced in my life. It was just outstanding with the thing. It made me love Squonking, and got me into RDAs. I've since got every other color/panel combo of the feedlink, another 8 squonk mods, and dozens of RDAs.
 

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Last fall I won a halloween contest. I got a mod, tank, and a RDA. I'd used older RDAs but didn't like them. I much preferred RTAs. Anyways, I decided I wanted to try the new one out. I wasn't going to drip ejuice all day so looked for a squonk mod. Eightvape had Aspire Feedlinks for $20 plus a holiday code, so I got one. I had no idea what kind of coil to use, to get it going to my liking (direct output just like a Pico Squeeze).

I decided to get @Shredtravolta involved. I saw the thread he made Coils for Postage. It was like a perfect storm lol. I explained what I had, and asked him for a coil that would make my setup hum. He sent me a N80 framed Alien, and a few others. But holy hell, that's the best vape I'd experienced in my life. It was just outstanding with the thing. It made me love Squonking, and got me into RDAs. I've since got every other color/panel combo of the feedlink, another 8 squonk mods, and dozens of RDAs.
His framed aliens are amazing. No ramp time n a damn hard hittn coil.
 

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Anyone have the Kaees Alexander 24 BF?

If so, how do you like it?
 

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Then you would enjoy the Le Concorde... I normally build it to like .82-1Ω and use it on the single hole or choke it down to 1.5 holes... much more flavorful vape and doesn't get tip warm like the Venna did/does
I'll have to look for one - thanks man!
 

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