Hello, don't know if I'm in the right thread just move it if i'm not, wanting to get opinions on sub ohm APVs/box mods with preinstalled batteries, e.g., iSticks, Innokin Coolfire IV, etc. For just starting out with sub ohming, I am not interested in building anything yet, thank you. I have looked at sub ohm tanks and will be looking at Big/Baby Beast, Kanger Subtank reg/mini, Protank 4, Tobeco mini/supertank, Crown to name a few any suggestions. I like flavor over clouds, thank you.