TFV8 (regular) RBA's - two options??

[iHoldMyCrown1]

So I ordered a 'big baby' rba not knowing there was any variants to the tfv8 (I have the regular / large one), am now trying to order the right RBA and I'm seeing it available, but also seeing a slightly more expensive 'RBA 16', supposedly has less leakage and is less prone to stripped threads - anyone have experience with these RBA's? I don't mind paying the extra, just want to be sure I'm getting the better one (for instance, my crown v1 is supposedly better than the v2)

Any thoughts or experiences on this would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[SirRichardRear]

the leaking and threading are likely the same. IDK where that would come from. what i can see is the RBA16 is for dual coils and the RBA8 is for single coils. smok lists the one that comes in the kit (which is what i have) as "exclusive turbo RBA" but i can check when i get home if there are any markings on it

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

the leaking and threading are likely the same. IDK where that would come from. what i can see is the RBA16 is for dual coils and the RBA8 is for single coils. smok lists the one that comes in the kit (which is what i have) as "exclusive turbo RBA" but i can check when i get home if there are any markings on it

It's how the vendor described the difference (as well as saying one's better for claptons, I'm unsure how to interpret that as my limited experience with claptons has me thinking of them as just wire lol, don't see how it'd make much difference I mean I've only done 1 build with non-generic wiring, but it was my last build and it was into a small RBA cartridge (uwell crown) and I found the stuff was pretty identical to regular wiring in terms of how it moved, how I was able to peg it in the terminals, etc, so am unsure how to interpret something as being 'better suited for' one type of wire over the other.

Dual coil v single though, that's an interesting question - I did dual the past year (in my doge), but IME so far with tanks, single is more than sufficient although maybe that'll change when scaling-up to these larger tanks..

I would appreciate it a lot if you could do that, letting me know (I'm unsure what 'turbo' is, I keep hearing it but don't know what it means lol)

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

. smok lists the one that comes in the kit (which is what i have) as "exclusive turbo RBA" but i can check when i get home if there are any markings on it

http://www.smoktech.com/atomizer/the-tfv8-cloud-beast

this page of their site doesn't even seem to acknowledge there being two variations, my gut's telling me the new one is 'improved' and the old one's being phased-out, would love confirmation though

 

[SirRichardRear]

It's how the vendor described the difference (as well as saying one's better for claptons, I'm unsure how to interpret that as my limited experience with claptons has me thinking of them as just wire lol, don't see how it'd make much difference I mean I've only done 1 build with non-generic wiring, but it was my last build and it was into a small RBA cartridge (uwell crown) and I found the stuff was pretty identical to regular wiring in terms of how it moved, how I was able to peg it in the terminals, etc, so am unsure how to interpret something as being 'better suited for' one type of wire over the other.

Dual coil v single though, that's an interesting question - I did dual the past year (in my doge), but IME so far with tanks, single is more than sufficient although maybe that'll change when scaling-up to these larger tanks..

I would appreciate it a lot if you could do that, letting me know (I'm unsure what 'turbo' is, I keep hearing it but don't know what it means lol)

Sadly, most vendors don't really know much about vaping and just try and sell you on a product. even websites have poor descriptions. it's a bad issue with the industry. It blew up too big for people to fast. It's near impossible to be in the loop with everything.

http://www.smoktech.com/atomizer/the-tfv8-cloud-beast

this page of their site doesn't even seem to acknowledge there being two variations, my gut's telling me the new one is 'improved' and the old one's being phased-out, would love confirmation though

the website does show both options.
the v8-rba-8 is a single coil deck
and the V8-RBA-16 is the dual coil deck

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

Sadly, most vendors don't really know much about vaping and just try and sell you on a product. even websites have poor descriptions. it's a bad issue with the industry. It blew up too big for people to fast. It's near impossible to be in the loop with everything.

the website does show both options.
the v8-rba-8 is a single coil deck
and the V8-RBA-16 is the dual coil deck

I'll have to look, the page I showed didn't have two rba's (unless I'm blind, I sometimes am)

anyways, I'm having trouble understanding why the regular one is for single coils, the stock photos I'm seeing of it show it with dual coils (unless we're talking different rba's, I'm talking the #1 and #2 that I'm seeing on a store site, I don't see the two actual rba official names on the Smok site)

I ordered the 'RBA 16' because both options showed dual-coil builds, seemed to have similar terminal setups, so figured newer-gen was likely to be better as is usually the case! Will see I guess, maybe there's a 3rd version of the rba or something but the seller I got from had two versions and both had stock photos showing them with dual coil setups, and both are certainly suitable/wanting dual builds, I'd prefer a single build honestly as I know a large, single coil would suffice given what I've seen with my 3-wrap build on my Crown, but whatever this tank is diesel I'll deal with making two coils!

 

[SirRichardRear]

I'll have to look, the page I showed didn't have two rba's (unless I'm blind, I sometimes am)

anyways, I'm having trouble understanding why the regular one is for single coils, the stock photos I'm seeing of it show it with dual coils (unless we're talking different rba's, I'm talking the #1 and #2 that I'm seeing on a store site, I don't see the two actual rba official names on the Smok site)

I ordered the 'RBA 16' because both options showed dual-coil builds, seemed to have similar terminal setups, so figured newer-gen was likely to be better as is usually the case! Will see I guess, maybe there's a 3rd version of the rba or something but the seller I got from had two versions and both had stock photos showing them with dual coil setups, and both are certainly suitable/wanting dual builds, I'd prefer a single build honestly as I know a large, single coil would suffice given what I've seen with my 3-wrap build on my Crown, but whatever this tank is diesel I'll deal with making two coils!

they listed it funky. one RBA is listed with the coils. the 2nd RBA is a little further down

 

[SirRichardRear]

I'll have to look, the page I showed didn't have two rba's (unless I'm blind, I sometimes am)

anyways, I'm having trouble understanding why the regular one is for single coils, the stock photos I'm seeing of it show it with dual coils (unless we're talking different rba's, I'm talking the #1 and #2 that I'm seeing on a store site, I don't see the two actual rba official names on the Smok site)

I ordered the 'RBA 16' because both options showed dual-coil builds, seemed to have similar terminal setups, so figured newer-gen was likely to be better as is usually the case! Will see I guess, maybe there's a 3rd version of the rba or something but the seller I got from had two versions and both had stock photos showing them with dual coil setups, and both are certainly suitable/wanting dual builds, I'd prefer a single build honestly as I know a large, single coil would suffice given what I've seen with my 3-wrap build on my Crown, but whatever this tank is diesel I'll deal with making two coils!

the single coil one doesn't have 2 posts (screenshots from their site) i just looked again and yeah their site sucks but they show 3 (they show 4 but i think the kit includes one of the 3)
the VB-RBA looks like the original one that came in the kit
the v8-RBA-16 looks like an updated version maybe. don't know the difference
the V8-RBA-8 looks like it's new and made for single coils

EDIT: found it! the RBA 16 has a goon deck, the RBA 8 is a single coii deck and the RBA is the velocity deck one
thats the differences in the 3

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

Can you please clarify that? You're referring to the page I'd linked, right?

On that page, at the first listing of coils, they show the pics next to the specs, and they mention 1 RBA, but then lower they do mention (but no pics) *two different* rba's, saying:


v8-rba
turbo: 4.0T-X
0.15ohm (50-180W-best 90-150W)

v8 rba-16
turbo: 5.0T-X
0.16ohm (40-100w/best 80W)

I don't know WTF to make of that, I mean I get that there's two different version names (duh), I don't think anything meaningful is to be gleaned from '5.0' versus 4.0, and their listed resistances being close to identical but different just comes across silly (unless they're referring to the OEM pre-installed coils? Otherwise they're giving reco's for a *customizable* deck, it's weird to give a resistance value for a buildable product lol!)

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

Even at that description though, I don't see where it indicates one being single or dual coil friendly compared to the other...

 

[SirRichardRear]

Even at that description though, I don't see where it indicates one being single or dual coil friendly compared to the other...

look at the pics. their descriptions suck lol
V8 = velocity 2 post style deck
v8-rba-8 = pharaoh clamp style single coil deck
vb-rba-16 = goon clamp style deck

 

[mjag]

the single coil one doesn't have 2 posts (screenshots from their site) i just looked again and yeah their site sucks but they show 3 (they show 4 but i think the kit includes one of the 3)
the VB-RBA looks like the original one that came in the kit
the v8-RBA-16 looks like an updated version maybe. don't know the difference
the V8-RBA-8 looks like it's new and made for single coils

EDIT: found it! the RBA 16 has a goon deck, the RBA 8 is a single coii deck and the RBA is the velocity deck one
thats the differences in the 3

Yeah, the RBA 16 does have a goon deck. I got one but have connection issues. Probably got a bum one and ordered from china so no use trying to return a $8 item.

The stock rba that comes in the kit has been better but I have heard others having problems as well. Too bad, the TFV8 is awesome with stock coils but the RBA can be hit or miss.

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[iHoldMyCrown1]

look at the pics. their descriptions suck lol
V8 = velocity 2 post style deck
v8-rba-8 = pharaoh clamp style single coil deck
vb-rba-16 = goon clamp style deck

That sucks, looking at those I'd prefer the v8 (single coil), but I've ordered the 16/goon style (so 'goon' means sidewise terminal slots?), that's not ideal but whatever I can build a dual coil, any benefits unique to the goon that anyone's found I'd love to hear! Am hating knowing i paid extra for a less-than-ideal unit but whatever this thing is huge maybe dual-coil is the way to go..

FWIW, the seller that I ordered from had two rba's offered, the stock pictures for both of theirs (including the cheaper 'RBA' option) were showing dual-coil so I was just hoped more $ = better lol, so anyway now that I've got this one coming, what types of coil builds should I be considering & avoiding? I've got a FT order coming soon with spools of 24g and 26g, and a couple 10-packs of ~150mm pre-made clapton wires, so can make lots of coils but am woefully ignorant about coil-building in tanks, in fact I've only done a single one ever in my life (my current crown uwell, I put a 3-loop clapton thing in its RBA, I'm used to building 6-8 wrap, 3mm ID, spaced dual coils for my Doge, which I'd used for over a year until a couple weeks ago getting into tanks..

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

Oh wow it didn't loko like my file file attchment worked, guess it went through! Yeah that picture is of the 'first gen' option they had, there was only so many sellers and, after the confusion with the cloud beast v big baby beast and ordering the wrong rba, I just had to pull the trigger and get it over with lol. I'll learn to like the goon deck, hopefully you guys can tell me which types of builds to be aiming for on this goon deck!

 

[iHoldMyCrown1]

This is what was pictured for 'rba 16', I imagine this is the goon deck:

 

[SirRichardRear]

This is what was pictured for 'rba 16', I imagine this is the goon deck:

Yup that's the goon deck. Really good deck. Don't know how the rba is
I have the original one that comes with the tank. It's good but I'd rather use an RTA made for it

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[iHoldMyCrown1]

Yup that's the goon deck. Really good deck. Don't know how the rba is
I have the original one that comes with the tank.

'don't know how the rba is' - isn't the goon deck an rba? Or you mean a different one?(you mention yours as well, i thought that'd be the most basic 'rba' for it, the one that came with it)

 

[SirRichardRear]

'don't know how the rba is' - isn't the goon deck an rba? Or you mean a different one?(you mention yours as well, i thought that'd be the most basic 'rba' for it, the one that came with it)

I mean the deck is good, but since i haven't used that specific RBA deck i cna't tell how it vapes. for instance the cloudnus has the same deck but it's performance was lack luster. I did a review on it

 

[Mikhail Naumov]

I can fit some pretty massive builds in my TFV-8 RBA head. I have the V8-RBA one I suppose, as it's a dual coil, velocity style deck with quite a lot of space. It's almost as big as the decks on most 24-25mm RTA's, and it seems to wick fairly well so I'd say for a sub-ohm tank RBA head it's a damned good option. I'm used to RBA heads on sub-ohm tanks being VERY lackluster.

 

[SirRichardRear]

I can fit some pretty massive builds in my TFV-8 RBA head. I have the V8-RBA one I suppose, as it's a dual coil, velocity style deck with quite a lot of space. It's almost as big as the decks on most 24-25mm RTA's, and it seems to wick fairly well so I'd say for a sub-ohm tank RBA head it's a damned good option. I'm used to RBA heads on sub-ohm tanks being VERY lackluster.

The tfv4 rba was trash but the tfv8 one is legit for sure

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[Mikhail Naumov]

The tfv4 rba was trash but the tfv8 one is legit for sure

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I'd go as far to say that every RBA head on every other sub-ohm tank (at least of the ones I've used, which is a LOT.) is trash. Because I've NEVER had an RBA head for a sub-ohm tank that could take builds that would preform as good as or better than the stock coil heads. I usually couldn't even fit a good high wattage build in most RBA heads, and the wicking on a lot of them is terrible as well. The TFV-8 RBA head (the velocity style one, at least) is the best and ONLY good sub-ohm tank RBA head I've ever used. It's so good that I would go as far to say that if you wanted an RTA the TFV-8 with the V8-RBA (Velocity style) is a good option compared to other RTA's. That's a milestone for a sub-ohm tank.