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Mikhail Naumov

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Am I the only one noticing how much the RTA market has been plateauing lately? For, months, some new gimmicky RTA would be released every few days or every week. There were some good ones, then the Supreme and Boreas hit, then the Herakles and Griffin 25 hit, and it seems they just killed off the movement. I personally think it's a good thing, it's nice to not have 10 RTA's flooding the market every week burning up any possible future innovation for quite some time, and there's still RTA's coming out but the RTA-Wars for the most part seem to be over.
 
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Yeah, it didn't take long for all the possible innovation to get eaten up, then a bunch of me-too RTA's flooded the market. The Crius, VCMT and Aromamizer V1 set the path for a long line of bullshit that brought absolutely nothing noteworthy or new. There were a few gems, the Herakles RTA, the Boreas/Aromamizer Supreme, then single coil RTA's like the Serpent. But most of everything else was the same rebranded bullshit every week. The vast majority were Crius/Griffin knock-offs, there were a few VCMT imitators like the Kaos Erbus and Kepler Apache, then there were some Aromamizer wannabes like the Trainvape. For the most part, none of these were particularly BAD devices, they just weren't huge improvements (or improvements at all) that warranted purchase over the products they were imitating. Then 25mm RTA's hit and it just reset the cycle, ALL the same shit that came out in the 22mm market was now being made 25mm. This was good for about two weeks, then it became the same deal. Same shit, different day. Out of ALL this bullshit, from the post-Crius V3/VCMT 25/30mm/Aromamizer V1 designs, here are the ten RTA's out so far I feel are worth it ranked in order of my personal liking.

1. Augvape Boreas (Best RDTA design for heat and clouds)
2. Herakles RTA-1/RTA-2 (Best normal RTA design for heat and clouds)
3. Aromamizer Supreme (Best RDTA design for flavor)
4. Sigelei Moonshot (Best small RTA design for flavor)
5. Wotofo Serpent / Serpent Mini (Best (current) Single-Coil RTA out)
6. Diablo RTA (Best small RTA in terms of ease of use)
7. Wotofo Conqueror (Best postless RTA out)
8. Augvape Alleria (Best dual coil full-sized 22mm RTA for flavor)
9. Kepler Apache RTA (Best 25mm normal RTA out in terms of deck size and ease of filling)
10. UD EZ-RTA (Best RTA out in terms of ease of building)

I feel that (in terms of what is currently available to the retail market) virtually everything else isn't highly innovative or worth buying. I didn't include the Merlin as I have no idea how it works, what it looks like and it's not current available to us.

For every tank I just listed (almost) there's an alternative(s), but in my opinion the one's I listed did it best, for the best price.

1. Boreas alternative: Modfather RDTA
2. Herakles RTA-1/RTA-2 alternative: Griffin 25/Gemini 25/+ More
3. Aromamizer Supreme alternative: Smok TF-RDTA
4. Sigelei Moonshot alternative: Aromamizer V2
5. Wotofo Serpent / Serpent Mini alternative: Bachelor / Bachelor Nano RTA/+ More
6. Diablo RTA alternative: Several 'Mini' RTA designs
7. Wotofo Conqueror alternative: Hannya Blitz RTA
8. Augvape Alleria alternative: TF-RTA G2/Griffin 22/Gemini 22/+ More
9. Kepeler Apache RTA alternative: Kaos Erbus RTA/25mm VCMT
10. UD EZ-RTA: N/A

For N/A that means there either isn't CURRENTLY an alternative for it or I don't know of it. But most every RTA out has more than one alternative, which is exactly the problem. If you want to flood the market with stuff, expect innovation to get really thin, more me-too stuff comes out than actual gems worth buying.
 
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It has been up several days now. In general, when FT says authentic, they mean it. I've never heard a story of somebody ordering authentic and getting clone. That's nice, even if it doesn't shorten shipping time. When they sell clone, they use the wotd "style" in the title. Roxy was going to see if she could find out where they were getting them, but I haven't heard, if she knows.
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Well the Boreas is now on FT under new arrivals this morning. They say it is genuine?
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Looks more like a dual coil RTA than a single coil RTA to be honest. Just from the chamber size alone. Such a large drip tip too, I was expecting a little tugger that spit out baby clouds, but this looks like it could get rowdy enough to be a few weight classes under the Boreas.
 
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MNaumov92 said:
Looks more like a dual coil RTA than a single coil RTA to be honest. Just from the chamber size alone. Such a large drip tip too, I was expecting a little tugger that spit out baby clouds, but this looks like it could get rowdy enough to be a few weight classes under the Boreas.
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I think its going to be more like the Serpent RTA then a Kayfun
 
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That is Boreas' drip tip in the photo. That's not the one it will come with, and yes, it uses a 510 drip tip so you can use any you like.

And yes, it can chuck a damn big cloud with the right build, or be very tame.
 
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The tip we originally designed for it is cone shaped, but we changed it a bit last night because it's hard to pull off.

Everything else will remain the same as the prototype so at least you see what it looks like on the outside.

Late last night I put a dual coil build in as well to test.
 
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Roxy I had a RDA Idea...Leon said he didnt understand me when I sent it to him and thats why he never replied....if I draw it up for you and explain is there any way you could make it easier on him to understand??

BTW My Rafale X is out for delivery!
 
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raymo2u said:
Roxy I had a RDA Idea...Leon said he didnt understand me when I sent it to him and thats why he never replied....if I draw it up for you and explain is there any way you could make it easier on him to understand??

BTW My Rafale X is out for delivery!
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Sure. Leon and I have excellent communication despite our language differences. We think it's my teaching background as that was one of my talents, being able to individualize concepts and explain them to each person.
 
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Wait, that's the Boreas drip tip? Just how small is this RTA, because that thing looks HUGE on top of it.. damned near chuff size.
 
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MNaumov92 said:
Wait, that's the Boreas drip tip? Just how small is this RTA, because that thing looks HUGE on top of it.. damned near chuff size.
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Looks like it to me. It's not one of the tips we considered. Merlin is quite dainty compared to Boreas.
 
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This is what I've tested so far to give you an idea of it's capabilities:

* large ID Notch coil using tc
* tight airflow using airflow insert with simple 26/32 Clapton, vaping right now.
* fused Clapton at higher power
* Dual SS coils, which are currently in the other prototype
 
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