Is it wrong for me to wish something horrible on him now, since I’m in NY?? Sorry, but I’m really hating his dumb ass now.
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Is it wrong for me to wish something horrible on him now, since I’m in NY?? Sorry, but I’m really hating his dumb ass now.
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I've been having intermittent actual anxiety attacks over this stupid shit.
I'm SO angry that the general public--including close friends of mine who don't vape (but of whom many have smoked, either now or in past) -- seems to be swallowing the propaganda re "h armful effects of vapin g" hook, line and sinker. I am not even sure what to say to them. I don't want to bombard them with science or give them a political speech about big tobacco and big pharma... It's driving me nuts.
When I was younger I had a lot of energy for activism. Not so much now, and I just feel demoralized by this insanity.
Does anyone happen to have a really stunning blurb (preferably with links) that explains to non-vapers wtf is happening?
I'm SO angry that the general public--including close friends of mine who don't vape (but of whom many have smoked, either now or in past) -- seems to be swallowing the propaganda re "h armful effects of vapin g" hook, line and sinker. I am not even sure what to say to them. I don't want to bombard them with science or give them a political speech about big tobacco and big pharma... It's driving me nuts.
When I was younger I had a lot of energy for activism. Not so much now, and I just feel demoralized by this insanity.
Does anyone happen to have a really stunning blurb (preferably with links) that explains to non-vapers wtf is happening?
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I wish I did.....the only thing you can tell them is that this is the beginning of a slippery slope. If vaping can be outlawed/banned, who says anything that is deemed “harmful”, especially to children, wouldn’t be.
yeah, i think i will to. but the only thing i am worried about is the nic going bad. and for me, this is the only thing i would maybe need to replentish
Thanks! We get these little gifts at the restaurant.....this is the newest one.
Cracker Barrel ?
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Lol! Customers bring us little gifts. I own a brunch restaurant.
we have a big ass fridge, and there is only 2 of us. i have a bunch of freezer packs in there now. i could take those out and put in 40 years of nic, and never notice it.
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Freeze it in colored glass bottles with very little air. I have mine in 60ml blue glass bottles.
why is that funny ? i like CB
thatss nice. customers bring us donuts
oh yeah. like a small town type place ?
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Yeah, small family owned type place. We just do brunch. Seats 50 people. In Charlottesville, VA.why is that funny ? i like CB
thatss nice. customers bring us donuts
oh yeah. like a small town type place ?
WTH? You’re only planning to live another fifteen years, man??
for many years, i said i would only make it to 60 = 5 1/2 to go. now, maybe a little more.
Like you want to jinx yourself or what?
lol. i was jinx'd from before birth, really.
tell them that its "fake news", because it is. and i tell the the british government is actively encoraging people to stop smoking by vaping.
Unless you know someone with a truck or van, home depot rents one. $19.00 for 75 mnutes
I dunno. How’s that possible?
everyone is born with diffferent resources and abilities and environments. ugly, strong, smart, whatever, or not. andd this, with other things, effects most peoples lives.
You can get glass bottles pretty cheap, really. I always got mine from https://packagingoptionsdirect.com/100-cc-amber-glass-round-packer-bottle-38-400-neck-finish-011633 That link is for the wide mouth 100ml amber glass Packer bottle.3 liters , 60ml at a time
Wherever you go, be sure they come with lids. Packaging Options Direct lists them separately, but underneath the listings. You might find some cheaper than this. Shipping varies with all places, too.
Like I said, shipping will vary from one place to another. They do run shipping specials from time to time, so yeah, that sounds steep. But, also, for a large quantity of bottles... I haven't priced out anyone else, but I haven't needed bottles in a long time. Check out ebay and amazon, too. I just really like the wide mouth bottles.Sub-Total
$1.80
FedEx Ground ($17.58)
Good point, yes, wg. Whenever I open my mouth to respond--from someone I like!-- to something like:
"...Well, I hate to say it, but maybe old-fashioned cigarettes are better for you?"
I find myself trying to cram in way too much information and sound like a psycho, like the live-action version of tl;dr. I can tell by the way their eyes glaze over lol. Need to just calmly remind them to do some research and not engage too much with idiotic premises.
Yup, breathe.... just breathe.
There was an article uploaded this morning by Sick in The Good thread about Public Health England refuting the vape panic rumors. There are links to articles that are meant to help folks answer relatives/friends who press them to stop vaping. Really worth a read. Like they said, Keep Calm and Carry On Vaping!
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Decant and freeze a liter into theseSub-Total
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FedEx Ground ($17.58)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GUIMD9Q?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
Decant the working liter into these.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0723C4D5V/ref=sspa_mb_hqp_detail_mobile_aax_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Both are eligible for Amazon free shipping.
I myself would desire more than 1 liter of total nic. to fill one of those bottles. While a liter contains more volume than 32 oz., it has been my experience that the 32 oz. level in that type of container only comes up to the shoulder of the bottle. To reduce oxidation during storage, I like to fill my bottles almost to the top. For me, 1 ltr. of nic. does not do that in a quart bottle. YMMV
There are solutions if additional nic. is not available.
I couldn't agree more--in general. Live and let live, etc. (BTW, those I know coming down on vaping are not smokers, though some are former smokers.)
But it is hard feeling judged, especially by people I care about and respect. As a 30+ year smoker, I spent many years being more or less ostracized by the general public, like anyone else who smoked more than occasionally after the early-mid nineties.
Never bothered me too much. This, now, feels different. it's the whole "children" thing, I suspect. Propaganda is fueling the sense of panic AND moral high ground among reasonable, thoughtful people.
I don't "disagree" with smoking. Nobody I knew ever kidded themselves smoking was OK. We were either just addicts, or in some cases, I guess, self-styled rebels.
MODIFICATION of "BUBBILICIOUS GRAPE" by ckemist atf 20/80 12MG 9/16/19
(Original on left, my modifications on right in [ ]).
4.5 (CAP) Bubble Gum [4 Molinberry American Bubble Gum]
3.25 (TPA) Grape Juice [1.5 tpa Grape Juice & 1.5 fw Grape Soda]
2.5 (TPA) Marshmallow [1.75 fa Marshmallow + 1 FW Marshmallow
0.25 (TPA) Sweetener [None]
2 (TPA) Vanilla Swirl [2 (TPA) Vanilla Swirl ]
This is great after an overnight steep. Seems to be getting sweeter with time. I skipped sweetener especially because fw Grape Soda (my first time using it) smells full of EM--it's very, very sweet. It has more of a throat hit than tfa Grape Juice, but I'm assuming that will temper with time. The Marshmallow and Vanilla swirl really bring it together with smoothness and full-on, puffy-creamy mouthfeel.
TRY WITH HALF OR 1% KIWI double and/or 0.5% koolada or menthol.
(Original on left, my modifications on right in [ ]).
4.5 (CAP) Bubble Gum [4 Molinberry American Bubble Gum]
3.25 (TPA) Grape Juice [1.5 tpa Grape Juice & 1.5 fw Grape Soda]
2.5 (TPA) Marshmallow [1.75 fa Marshmallow + 1 FW Marshmallow
0.25 (TPA) Sweetener [None]
2 (TPA) Vanilla Swirl [2 (TPA) Vanilla Swirl ]
This is great after an overnight steep. Seems to be getting sweeter with time. I skipped sweetener especially because fw Grape Soda (my first time using it) smells full of EM--it's very, very sweet. It has more of a throat hit than tfa Grape Juice, but I'm assuming that will temper with time. The Marshmallow and Vanilla swirl really bring it together with smoothness and full-on, puffy-creamy mouthfeel.
TRY WITH HALF OR 1% KIWI double and/or 0.5% koolada or menthol.
When folks are turning to cigs to wean themselves off vaping...panic indeed!
"In desperation, as California Healthline reports, users with growing dependence on the devices are now looking to a familiar friend to help them quit: cigarettes."
https://qz.com/1709481/vapers-turn-to-cigarettes-to-wean-themselves-off-juuls/amp/
Do you have a recipe with at the most three flavors? This way I could get them now and try my hand at mixing. I’ve got a credit now at DIY Flavor Shack. Thanks!
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They’re using cigs to stop vaping, which they started doing to quit smoking?! Familiar friend. :GFY: Not you, this craziness!!
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In their lives, I'm thinking vaping came first
Nah... it wasn't that painless. I mean, I still miss the wonderful joy of coughing out tennis balls in the morning, and, in a certain sense, kids ARE an epidemic because let's be honest, did no-one ever tell you when you were a kid you're just a parasite and an epidemic? So help save the epidemic. Let's hand this lifesaving industry over to the mob. It will be better this way because Stanley Milgram proved that some 60% of all people don't factually care about whether you live or die anyway. We need more guns in high school. Absolutely. So everyone please stop worrying and love the bomb.
why do you recommend not using the original bottle ?
Being ugly is actually a wonderful thing. It scares off those 60% who would rather have you die.
i know you're being sarcastic in this and your last post and I feel you. I too am pretty cynical about people at this moment.
For people who don't know about the Milgram experiments in New Haven, what they actually show about participants is very much up for discussion! The title of Stanley Milgram's study after WWII was "Obedience to Authority"--not "we want people to die/don't care if people die."
It's actually a good reminder that societal pressure can rob us of courage and make us feel powerless to enact even our most cherished moral beliefs.
@Rhianne - I've never bought any DIYFLAVORSHACK, but many love "Holy Vanilla". If, like you, I had a credit, I would definitely go for that first based on all the raves.
If you're shopping there, check out these flavor notes: https://forum.e-liquid-recipes.com/t/diy-flavor-shack-diyfs-flavor-tasting-notes/161384
Also, check out the diyfs site and make some notes about what flavors sound good to you. Then go to https://alltheflavors.com and click "Flavors" at the top. Type in your choices one at a time and see what percentages people are using them at.
You can use e-liquid-recipes.com the same way. Go to https://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavors and type in flavors you're interested in. Scroll down, click on "Notes" to get some ideas of what people think of the flavor in question. On that same page as Notes, you'll see a link for "recipes".
If you're shopping there, check out these flavor notes: https://forum.e-liquid-recipes.com/t/diy-flavor-shack-diyfs-flavor-tasting-notes/161384
Also, check out the diyfs site and make some notes about what flavors sound good to you. Then go to https://alltheflavors.com and click "Flavors" at the top. Type in your choices one at a time and see what percentages people are using them at.
You can use e-liquid-recipes.com the same way. Go to https://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavors and type in flavors you're interested in. Scroll down, click on "Notes" to get some ideas of what people think of the flavor in question. On that same page as Notes, you'll see a link for "recipes".
It’s still crazy logic, imho. But yeah, how long do most kids or young people smoke before vaping or using Juuls.
I’m starting to get really pissed off with all this.
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Sorry for so many. All are great
Thanks! I appreciate it!
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Have you been watching Dr. Strangelove?
But seriously after the first month or so, it was pretty painless for me not to dual use. I was prolly having a few drags here and there, but I made one pack last almost a month. And then I just didn’t buy anymore. I made up my mind to stop and I did. Felt bloody wonderful after a week when I realized I could really do it. 
So, you’re getting to witness the craziness here! You can tell people about it in 20 years and they won’t care!
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Exactly!
Why can't everybody be like Major Kong?
My dh was Bomb Nav for B52’s. I love those BUFFs. They rock!!
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I never claimed that was the title. Fact of the matter remains, about 60% of the general population didn't care if other, innocent people live or die because if you look authoritative in an authoritative looking environment/setting, then you can tell them in your authoritative sounding voice to kill a defenseless, innocent human being, and they will obey just because you're intimidating them and you're telling them to kill so the killing becomes acceptable to them, and so they become killers. Likewise, if the gov't tells the general populus to support a ban on lifesaving products, the general populus will obey, and innocent people WILL die because that's just how fascism truly works... all it basically takes to turn normal people into killers is a pile of cash to build a fake environment and just fill the place up with a bunch of very good actors. Which is PRECISELY what's been happening regarding the flavor ban.
I don't think we basically disagree and I didn't mean to sound contentious, so sorry if I did. They/we--"people"-- it seems are deeply influenced by perceived authority.
I think the characterization of "uncaring" isn't right, either though, for most people here and now, or back then. In your example, say, of Milgram, I, like everybody, am struck by how many subjects went along with hurting others, but also that there was an ethical process. Most who did had to be repeatedly egged-on by the authority figure in the experiment to go to the point of causing others real harm.
in the end, your point that people are misguided, manipulated and controlled by authority and propaganda is to me, the most salient and relevant.
Edit/PS: Interestingly, one of the most unusual and strongly independent--i.e., unwilling to harm others--subjects in Milgram was a German woman who had lived through the Nazi regime and been exposed to some of the most intense intimidation/propaganda.
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