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bx10r

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Lmfao....#feltfit
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bx10r said:
Lmfao....#feltfit
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Postman has five fingers PLUS a thumb? AND a very long, flexible arm? He needs more help than a little licky-licky can give.

Dude doing the licking has no eyebrows and looks like a farkin effeminate serial killer - or Barney Fife - I can't decide which.

Bizarre, and more than a little disturbing! :D
 
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nadalama said:
Postman has five fingers PLUS a thumb? AND a very long, flexible arm? He needs more help than a little licky-licky can give.

Dude doing the licking has no eyebrows and looks like a farkin effeminate serial killer - or Barney Fife - I can't decide which.

Bizarre, and more than a little disturbing! :D
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YOU STICK YOUR HAND THAT FAR IN MY MAIL SLOT...YOU NOT PULLING BACK A FULL HAND...GUARANTEED. I DONT CARE WHAT MOD YOU DELIVERING
 
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nadalama said:
Postman has five fingers PLUS a thumb? AND a very long, flexible arm? He needs more help than a little licky-licky can give.

Dude doing the licking has no eyebrows and looks like a farkin effeminate serial killer - or Barney Fife - I can't decide which.

Bizarre, and more than a little disturbing! :D
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Holy shit, too funny

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I have more, but need to get more shelving to add to what they are calling the "vape tree" (lol) Actually have a stockpile of batteries too. IMR just had some killer sales.!

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If the wall shakes do any mods fall over?
 
~Don~

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Got the Overlord clone in today... would post pics, but waiting still on my replacement phone which arrives tomorrow.

Did my comparison to the authentic, and there are some machine tooling Path differences; where China decided to round the tear drops and slightly change the hour glass curves. I'd call it a good 95%'r in aesthetics... Contact point to the bevels are different... less surface area...BUT!

It's shit in the voltage department... Side by side using the same RDA, just transplanting them and using fully charged 30Ts... its max even after polishing the contacts is 3.64v where as with the Authentic its 3.79v or about 10w difference.

I narrowed it down to the switch... the contacts they used are also silver plated... but silver plated shit... I put my authentic switch in, and it matched the authentic... so no idea what metal they used, but I suspect its stainless, for when I polished the upper contact, there wasn't a color change (Brass/Copper)

Don its 10w... yup and for $20 you get what you pay for, Similar to getting a brand new Honda Accord... its awesome, its new...it works! but compared to a Brand New BMW, you start noticing the small refinements and better quality and performance and see why there is that price difference.

Don's Verdict: it's $20, it works, but its not a performer. Make a decent beater mod with a clone RDA or one of those SHIT RDAs I mentioned before and if you dropped it, #leaverite
 
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~Don~ said:
Got the Overlord clone in today... would post pics, but waiting still on my replacement phone which arrives tomorrow.

Did my comparison to the authentic, and there are some machine tooling Path differences; where China decided to round the tear drops and slightly change the hour glass curves. I'd call it a good 95%'r in aesthetics... Contact point to the bevels are different... less surface area...BUT!

It's shit in the voltage department... Side by side using the same RDA, just transplanting them and using fully charged 30Ts... its max even after polishing the contacts is 3.64v where as with the Authentic its 3.79v or about 10w difference.

I narrowed it down to the switch... the contacts they used are also silver plated... but silver plated shit... I put my authentic switch in, and it matched the authentic... so no idea what metal they used, but I suspect its stainless, for when I polished the upper contact, there wasn't a color change (Brass/Copper)

Don its 10w... yup and for $20 you get what you pay for, Similar to getting a brand new Honda Accord... its awesome, its new...it works! but compared to a Brand New BMW, you start noticing the small refinements and better quality and performance and see why there is that price difference.

Don's Verdict: it's $20, it works, but its not a performer. Make a decent beater mod with a clone RDA or one of those SHIT RDAs I mentioned before and if you dropped it, #leaverite
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when you work the switch on the auth, does it feel rough'ish ?
 
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Jinx'd said:
when you work the switch on the auth, does it feel rough'ish ?
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The Authentic switch is buttery smooth... zero drag, Zero crunch... near Hydraulic in feel

The clone on the other hand... has some drag, some crunch...I took the spring out of the cap and it was really rough... smoothed it some on micro mesh pads up to 10k grit... still a tad crunchy... but its a $20 mod... clone... and can't expect perfection.

I put it in the drawer... was hoping it would meet my 3.7v minimum, but it didn't.

Probably add it to the list of Shit RDAs I have for bundle sale lol... wont even add to the overall cost... just a freebee
 
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~Don~ said:
The Authentic switch is buttery smooth... zero drag, Zero crunch... near Hydraulic in feel

The clone on the other hand... has some drag, some crunch...I took the spring out of the cap and it was really rough... smoothed it some on micro mesh pads up to 10k grit... still a tad crunchy... but its a $20 mod... clone... and can't expect perfection.
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thats the drop. did you remeasure after soothing it up ?
 
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This View attachment 153568 RTA showed up today.
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Nice. Not sure if you know or not, apparently there's expansion kits for that. I'm sure other places have something similar, fasttech has a 4ml bubble glass for it for $2.63 and some sort of expansion kit for $5 that appears to have a 4ml straight side pyrex tank along with some orings and a couple doodads to extend the chimney a bit.
 
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~Don~ said:
After I micro meshed it all?

Not sure how soothing a shit mod can be actually the opposite having to spend time smoothing things out.

But yes after smoothing the contact it read the same.


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so after a little bit of work a 20 buck mod outputs the same as a 150+? Or whatever it costs

how is that a shit mod don or am I reading this wrong?

edit: just saw other post above it NM :D
 
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so after a little bit of work a 20 buck mod outputs the same as a 150+? Or whatever it costs

how is that a shit mod don or am I reading this wrong?
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I think Mooch already proved with ample visible evidence the fact that a lot of 150+ authentic mechs aren't specifically designed to give you a very low voltage drop. Some are, some aren't... and then there's also the fact some (or many) of the more expensive ones only start to perform well after a little touch-up. Like filing down a sharp edge. Because, the arcing marks Mooch got on the firing cup of the Purge Mods Slam Piece after he tested it were a dead giveaway of this fact. And IMO it also explains why the voltage drop he measured for this mod was sub par both for the price and for the fact widespread user feedback from real users of this mod, myself included, also overwhelmingly suggests this mod hits a serious lot harder than what his measurements were showing in his video of course. Touch-ups, and/or doing one or two compulsory upgrades, like, replacing magnets with a solid silver spring or replacing an o-ring inside a clutch system, etc., just in order to get the button to work smoothly.

Human bias also is a factor, though. Even the (almost) constantly praised Kennedy Vindicator 21700 tends to have a crunchy button the crunchiness of which can, depending on where you press it and also (at least in part) depending on mod-to-mod variations that are due entirely to tolerances in the machining, vary all of the way between causing an actual misfire and no crunchiness whatsoever. Anyone who has watched the thermal analysis part of Mooch's recent video for the Vindicator 21700 will know that the combined surface area of the two little tabs pressing on the inside of the button housing are clearly heating up as that is where most of the voltage drop is from, and a touch-up didn't help anything much in this particular example. Now you can see I was right when I wrote in a different thread some time ago that the Vindicator 21700, despite it still being a very decent mod, isn't in the same league as either Comp Lyfe or Purge Mods... which brings me back to my initial point about price and subjectiveness. Materials are cheap, but the design also matters a lot, as does the machining because it needs to work in tandem with the design to work well, and, when you buy a clone you're not paying for the design nor for the huge cost of prototyping the design, as instead, you're paying for that which essentially kills the designer's ability to keep mitigating the ratio of design cost to number of units sold. If everyone stops designing authentics because nobody buys them anymore, clones will go away because they still need the authentic to be able to clone it and be able to continue to fool all the poor people on the internet about quality and, specifically, about what company that quality actually is coming from, and who is making it possible for new high quality products to continue to be delivered to your doorstep.
 
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Carambrda said:
I think Mooch already proved with ample visible evidence the fact that a lot of 150+ authentic mechs aren't specifically designed to give you a very low voltage drop. Some are, some aren't... and then there's also the fact some (or many) of the more expensive ones only start to perform well after a little touch-up. Like filing down a sharp edge. Because, the arcing marks Mooch got on the firing cup of the Purge Mods Slam Piece after he tested it were a dead giveaway of this fact. And IMO it also explains why the voltage drop he measured for this mod was sub par both for the price and for the fact widespread user feedback from real users of this mod, myself included, also overwhelmingly suggests this mod hits a serious lot harder than what his measurements were showing in his video of course. Touch-ups, and/or doing one or two compulsory upgrades, like, replacing magnets with a solid silver spring or replacing an o-ring inside a clutch system, etc., just in order to get the button to work smoothly.

Human bias also is a factor, though. Even the (almost) constantly praised Kennedy Vindicator 21700 tends to have a crunchy button the crunchiness of which can, depending on where you press it and also (at least in part) depending on mod-to-mod variations that are due entirely to tolerances in the machining, vary all of the way between causing an actual misfire and no crunchiness whatsoever. Anyone who has watched the thermal analysis part of Mooch's recent video for the Vindicator 21700 will know that the combined surface area of the two little tabs pressing on the inside of the button housing are clearly heating up as that is where most of the voltage drop is from, and a touch-up didn't help anything much in this particular example. Now you can see I was right when I wrote in a different thread some time ago that the Vindicator 21700, despite it still being a very decent mod, isn't in the same league as either Comp Lyfe or Purge Mods... which brings me back to my initial point about price and subjectiveness. Materials are cheap, but the design also matters a lot, as does the machining because it needs to work in tandem with the design to work well, and, when you buy a clone you're not paying for the design nor for the huge cost of prototyping the design, as instead, you're paying for that which essentially kills the designer's ability to keep mitigating the ratio of design cost to number of units sold. If everyone stops designing authentics because nobody buys them anymore, clones will go away because they still need the authentic to be able to clone it and be able to continue to fool all the poor people on the internet about quality and, specifically, about what company that quality actually is coming from, and who is making it possible for new high quality products to continue to be delivered to your doorstep.
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i personally don’t purchase clones for the reasons you state at the end caram ...I did purchase several clones way back as it was a relatively inexpensive way to explore when I was finding what I liked at the time but stopped doing that long ago as I felt guilty about it.

my point was more performance was the same in the end and theres a big difference in cost
 
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KingPin! said:
i personally don’t purchase clones for the reasons you state at the end caram ...I did purchase several clones way back as it was a relatively inexpensive way to explore when I was finding what I liked at the time but stopped doing that long ago as I felt guilty about it.

my point was more performance was the same in the end and theres a big difference in cost
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I was curious with the Overlord clone compared to my authentic one and the only reason I bought it was pure comparison.

The clone doesn’t perform the same at all, unless you consider it applies voltage (although a lot less) the same.

It only worked the same when I used the authentic switch...




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KingPin! said:
i personally don’t purchase clones for the reasons you state at the end caram ...I did purchase several clones way back as it was a relatively inexpensive way to explore when I was finding what I liked at the time but stopped doing that long ago as I felt guilty about it.

my point was more performance was the same in the end and theres a big difference in cost
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People who decide to buy a clone aren't breaking any laws so I'm not judging anyone. Just trying to point to possible reasons why there often tends to be such a big difference in cost, be it justifiable or not, and about why this difference often tends to either be unrelated or be barely related to actual performance.
 
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~Don~ said:
I was curious with the Overlord clone compared to my authentic one and the only reason I bought it was pure comparison.

The clone doesn’t perform the same at all, unless you consider it applies voltage (although a lot less) the same.

It only worked the same when I used the authentic switch...




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ahh sorry I did misread then thought Jinx’d said did you smooth the switch on the clone then you said they were the same my bad :cheers:
 
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Got plenty of vape mail yesterday:

Voopoo PNP RBA for Vinci X AIO and ohm/voltage reader from Hoosier Ecigs
Ohm Vapor AIO with RBA from a very generous VU member (thank you again, you know who you are!)
GV Aegis X from StrikesUSA

Played musical RTAs again, ended up with a SS Zeus X on the Aegis X, Hurricane Jr. RTA on a Voopoo Drag, Intake RTA on my old, beat-up Aegis Legend, GV Nova being retired to the Vapocalypse box. Everybody's happy this way until the black Zeus X clone comes from Kidney Puncher in a few days.

I was nervous about the Aegis X because it is asymmetrical. Has a trim piece that forms a grip on one side similar to the Legend, and a huge flat color screen on the other side. Turns out, nah, doesn't bother me, the result is that the mod is lighter than the Legend, plus has more rounded edges, and is a whole lot easier and more comfortable to hold onto and use. First impression of the X is really, really good. I'm very glad I ordered it. That big screen is a knockout, too.

Built the PNP RBA for the Vinci X RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. Tiny postless deck, YES! I am thumbing my nose at Reewape and Hippovape AND Artery. Y'all can all kiss my foot. I know some people seem not to like the Voopoo company, but I swear I have had good results from every single piece of gear I've bought from them except one, and even that one isn't intolerable. (The battery door wiggle on the Drag 2 - I wonder how the hell that happened when the fit and finish of everything else is so damn good. I hope they kicked the designer's tail and sent him/her home to think about it.)

The Artery RBA that I thought was going to be so much better than the Hippovape started giving me friggin dry hits yesterday afternoon in the iJoy Mercury. I wanted to fling the damn thing. When I get through being miffed about it, I'll thin the cotton some more and try it again. Tails on those tee-niny RBAs have to be nearly see-through.
 
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16 rdas and an rta just came in the mail today from @gadget!
I think right off the bat I'm trading one, the steam crave v-rda, and keeping a few for sure. The rest I may let go of at some point.
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Also received this leather wrap for my noisy cricket, hand sewn buy @Bigrick
Thanks again brother!
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ChainVapeS said:
16 rdas and an rta just came in the mail today from @gadget!
I think right off the bat I'm trading one, the steam crave v-rda, and keeping a few for sure. The rest I may let go of at some point.
3c8cfcac2b9be627ea4d6900e224493d.jpg


Also received this leather wrap for my noisy cricket, hand sewn buy @Bigrick
Thanks again brother!
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I think I seen a post in the hardware section some looking for a Steam Crave V RDA. :)

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ChainVapeS said:
16 rdas and an rta just came in the mail today from @gadget!
I think right off the bat I'm trading one, the steam crave v-rda, and keeping a few for sure. The rest I may let go of at some point.
3c8cfcac2b9be627ea4d6900e224493d.jpg


Also received this leather wrap for my noisy cricket, hand sewn buy @Bigrick
Thanks again brother!
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Love the leather wrap..
 
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ChainVapeS said:
16 rdas and an rta just came in the mail today from @gadget!
I think right off the bat I'm trading one, the steam crave v-rda, and keeping a few for sure. The rest I may let go of at some point.
3c8cfcac2b9be627ea4d6900e224493d.jpg


Also received this leather wrap for my noisy cricket, hand sewn buy @Bigrick
Thanks again brother!
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
edc7bd9162a0dc0f46784ac306424959.jpg
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Love the leather wrap..
 
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