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straightening it by hand can be a workout hehe ..24g is lowest I got but find that is nice for simple wire coils especially on larger decks where you have space for more wraps and want to pump some power through them
I stopped using a drill to straighten my wire as it twists it ...just pull it till you feel it stretch a little does the trick
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Gorgeous Pumper!
FT had a great sale on these plus 15% off- Nice that the Pumper 21 takes 21700 batteries, random choice was pretty good for me this time- that is why I bought the XTAR PB2S- to be able to charge and keep my 21700 batteries in. Fasttech had the best prices on those too along with the 15%-
Yeah I generally don't straighten any of my wire. But I also wrap with the natural coil of the wire itself after it comes off the spool. I know a lot of people are like 'well just straighten your stuff', And where I can see that being helpful when you have wire that's really springy like some of the thinner gauge I would probably do that on, but the big stuff no way. I used to try and straighten 20 gauge KA1 back in the day, but I found after so many turns, it just becomes brittle and when it's brittle it becomes worthless. not to mention you'll always have those spots that heat up faster than the other or if one spot gets too hot it'll just break. So I stopped doing that. I also noticed after using a coil that was straightened for a decent amount of time, that where the wire had twisted created a soft spot or a weak spot in the wire, And it would be prone to pitting. So I just don't mess with that kind of stuff anymore. But when I get my wire from the mailbox I will let everybody know just how easy it was to wrap. I'm getting excited actually.
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I finally got a shipping notice on the Freeman e-liquid. Took 8 days to ship. I suppose it could be worse, since we slammed them, but with me mixing my own for the past 18 months or more, it would take something pretty spectacular to entice me to buy pre-made juice again. This ain't it.
I enjoyed one of the 3 I ordered (3 Flavors), but all of them were really sweet... $8 hard to hate that...
I'll probably electrical tape the caps shut and mail them to a buddy of mine in KC when I send the coils I made him... he likes sweet juices lol
All right so I got my 22 gauge wire, I built two coils, six wraps each, 3.5 mm inner diameter, and it requires more than 55 watts to heat up quickly. And it stays pretty warm. The flavor is what I expect from stainless steel it's clean, it gives off all the right notes, And it was easy as hell to build with. Kind of reminds me of g plat
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Yea you might like it if you like a hot vape. I'm a wuss, smoking and coughing trashed my throat so I'm good with mild/medium heat. Kind of on the cooler side, that hot shit sears my throat. Other people doing tc at like 470F+ and I'm over here at like 310F, feelin kinda brave at 320F lmao. The thicker wire will hold the heat longer for sure.
Edit: Glad you like it. Sorry, replied to your reply on the previous page before I lost it in the shuffle, then saw you'd already got it and tried it.
Nice and warm, Nice Rich clouds, crazy low resistance though 0.11... my God. And obviously if you're looking at the coil pictures you can see the spaces in between each wrap.
And I ordered a new top cap for my bonza 1.5. I ordered the black and copper 25 mm top cap.
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And I ordered a new top cap for my bonza 1.5. I ordered the black and copper 25 mm top cap.
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This is not some kinda clouds bro challenge is it?Nice and warm, Nice Rich clouds, crazy low resistance though 0.11... my God. And obviously if you're looking at the coil pictures you can see the spaces in between each wrap.
And I ordered a new top cap for my bonza 1.5. I ordered the black and copper 25 mm top cap.
I suck at clouds bro clouds... Although I've won a few comps in my days.
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What a relief it is to know that I am not the only wuss in this crowd! Actually I haven't felt that way so much lately, but when I first started reading here at VU, I was still vaping MTL, and was scared to death of sub-ohm vaping. All the folks here, all brave and shit, building their own coils, and naturally I assumed that meant that everyone was vaping molten lava. Over time of course I've realized that isn't true.
At any rate, it has taken me the longest time to work up to the occasional 60-ish watt vape! Even after 12-15 months I'm still more comfortable at 35 or 40 watts than I am 60, but I do know enough these days to crank that air open if I bump the wattage up. Me and the Resa Prince are getting along pretty well at 65 for the past few days.
Still can't comprehend 100 watts and up. Can't imagine why you'd ever need to do that, but admittedly, there's something there that I don't understand!
You don't even wanna think about what a series stack at .27 or .3 is like thenStill can't comprehend 100 watts and up. Can't imagine why you'd ever need to do that, but admittedly, there's something there that I don't understand!
I've come to really appreciate many different kinds of vaping. From that to 1.5 ohms and 13 watts in a Billet Box even down to a stick pod like the Infinix. And everything in between.
I didn't always, but I do totally understand tootlepuffers now.
I'm not into that either and it's not real popular right now, but I have a couple setups that would compete
I vape everywhere from 20w to 125w depending on the situation and mood of the moment. My little stealth geekvape aegis boost at 20w and my tube mechs if I feel like foggin out the house.You don't even wanna think about what a series stack at .27 or .3 is like then
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I've come to really appreciate many different kinds of vaping. From that to 1.5 ohms and 13 watts in a Billet Box even down to a stick pod like the Infinix. And everything in between.
I didn't always, but I do totally understand tootlepuffers now.
December 7th order from 3Avape came in today. Already had a Chronus kit, but purple is my favorite color and when I saw the neon purple, I had to have it...lol.
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Your vape tree is going to end up reaching to another corner of the room!December 7th order from 3Avape came in today. Already had a Chronus kit, but purple is my favorite color and when I saw the neon purple, I had to have it...lol.
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I usually use 26 wrapped in 38 or 40.
The only reason i had the 22 was because Lightning Vapes sent me the wrong wire.
They made it right and sent the right wire and they told me to keep the 22 so i tried it.
I put it in a Goon on a Noisy Cricket. It tasted fine to me but not as good as a 26/38.
The 22 will be used for emergencies!
I'm pretty fond of purple myselfDecember 7th order from 3Avape came in today. Already had a Chronus kit, but purple is my favorite color and when I saw the neon purple, I had to have it...lol.
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I like them, where you get them from?
Actually a great little mod for what it tries to be. Can't go wrong for THIS price. TC is even pretty good
@Countrypami it looks like the copper is back on the page.
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Are you kidding me????? After I already bought 2 more that actually just arrived today!Actually a great little mod for what it tries to be. Can't go wrong for THIS price. TC is even pretty good
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@Countrypami it looks like the copper is back on the page.
Unless I'm seeing it wrong, it looks like they dug some more up. Not that you need any moreAre you kidding me????? After I already bought 2 more that actually just arrived today!
That Kronus mod is not half bad either. I helped somebody set one up. (helped her order it too actually) The tank will take Baby Beast coils with the adapter.December 7th order from 3Avape came in today. Already had a Chronus kit, but purple is my favorite color and when I saw the neon purple, I had to have it...lol.
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I can assure you, I've hit a box at 300W before ... It's like sticking your lips on Satan's asshole and taking a deep breath, while at the same time he lets a fart loose. It's hot, it's unpleasant, and I think it's on par, if not worse than smoking a cig.What a relief it is to know that I am not the only wuss in this crowd! Actually I haven't felt that way so much lately, but when I first started reading here at VU, I was still vaping MTL, and was scared to death of sub-ohm vaping. All the folks here, all brave and shit, building their own coils, and naturally I assumed that meant that everyone was vaping molten lava. Over time of course I've realized that isn't true.
At any rate, it has taken me the longest time to work up to the occasional 60-ish watt vape! Even after 12-15 months I'm still more comfortable at 35 or 40 watts than I am 60, but I do know enough these days to crank that air open if I bump the wattage up. Me and the Resa Prince are getting along pretty well at 65 for the past few days.
Still can't comprehend 100 watts and up. Can't imagine why you'd ever need to do that, but admittedly, there's something there that I don't understand!
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300 is outta my range for sure. Those series setups are around 200 and that's ROARIN. Not an adv, but I enjoy that heat at times.
I did it as a willful test to give some folks a bit of a heads up on it. Also to prove a point, 'Just because your device can, doesn't mean you should...'. I got a friend that thinks it's amusing to push the limits with his stuff... So, I let him have a chooch at 300W... I thought he was gonna die, and he almost did.
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As for what the additional wattage is for, in my honest opinion and observation, I think it's really useful for more intricate builds. Fused, staple fused, corrugated fused staple, framed staggered fused aliens, etc. Outside of that, I have absolutely no idea what else you'd use 100W or more for. May just to say you can? Not really sure.
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There's a few things at play I've found. For one someone's tolerance or preference to heat. Not really something to control when smoking but some folks love a hot vape. I just prefer and deal better with a cooler vape. That said I was freaked out about it at first because I was vaping an ego pen or even when I went to rta's they were single coil. Ranging around 30w. Oh my god, 120w must be so hot! Because of my point of reference, my own coil. I knew the heat of my setup at 30w and yes, my setup at 120w would be molten lava. That all changes though with the type of metal, type of coil, multicoil setups, amount of airflow and wire mass.What a relief it is to know that I am not the only wuss in this crowd! Actually I haven't felt that way so much lately, but when I first started reading here at VU, I was still vaping MTL, and was scared to death of sub-ohm vaping. All the folks here, all brave and shit, building their own coils, and naturally I assumed that meant that everyone was vaping molten lava. Over time of course I've realized that isn't true.
At any rate, it has taken me the longest time to work up to the occasional 60-ish watt vape! Even after 12-15 months I'm still more comfortable at 35 or 40 watts than I am 60, but I do know enough these days to crank that air open if I bump the wattage up. Me and the Resa Prince are getting along pretty well at 65 for the past few days.
Still can't comprehend 100 watts and up. Can't imagine why you'd ever need to do that, but admittedly, there's something there that I don't understand!
With wire mass there's only so much metal in a single piece of 26 or 28ga wire wrapped 6-8 times. Compared with a tricore fused clapton and mine ramp up fairly quick but 3x28ga/38ga wrap, 6 wraps each, dual coil setup. Each coil has 3x the wire of a 28ga single wire wrapped 6 times. More than that because of the 38ga wrap adding a sort of jacket of metal around the 3 cores. The difference between a lightbulb filament burning so hot it becomes bright and emits light compared to a thick metal electric stove coil eventually turning a dull red plugged into the same household current. If I wanted the stove element to glow up like the light bulb I'd have to push a whole lot more power to it.
Where I'm typically a wuss with wattage on my fused claptons at 60-70w depending on the airflow and setup I did try a different build. I had some 22ga kanthal that I wound into coils with like 9 or 10 wraps a piece run as dual coils. 22ga is much thicker wire. That many wraps adds to the overall bulk of metal each coil is made of. 60w and I hardly got any vapor off it at all. 70w about the same. 80w I started getting a cool almost cold vape. I was up to around 100w before it started feeling mildly warm and overcoming the slow ramp up of the coils. So I was a good 50% more power than my typical just to fire the beefier coils.
It's not really about comprehending the power in terms of heat, it's all relative to the build and airflow. Some builds are far less efficient and demand the additional power so someone's mod isn't timing out before it even gets hot enough to vaporize the juice. I still prefer the more efficient coils that ramp up and down faster and take less power to run. I get good flavor, decent clouds but nothing that would win a competition. Not really about the clouds, just a result of the higher vg and wider airflow for the fuller lung hit I crave that satisfies my smoking habit. Had to lean that way because the higher nic and higher pg was irritating my throat so I adapted to what worked for me. Some ex smokers love that throat kick and that's what they miss. For me it was the deep lung feel of a full inhale.
Me too... it's the midget coil porn that keeps them alive.
Too many people seem to always forget that fridges and freezers use evaporation to cool stuff down. The faster the vapor production of your coils, the faster the heat gets carried away from them. But airflow, even though it should be pretty obvious the fact that blowing more cold air onto a hot metal surface is going to help with cooling it down, isn't as simple as many think. I'll try to explain the best I can. If air gets sucked through a large hole, then a large volume of air can pass through it, easily, with not much restrictiveness going on so not much force is needed to suck more air in. As a result, you might assume that having a larger air hole is going to give you more cooling effect. But that is not always the case, and in fact may turn out to be quite the opposite. Why? Simple, it's because you also want to create enough underpressure buildup on the inside of your atomizer, as that is what factually is needed to increase the force in THOSE areas where force is needed to slam air into your coils.
This is why having the airflow adjustment wide open with something like, say, the Goon 1.5 RDA in dual coil mode, doesn't work at all for me. To make it slam into the coils I'd have to pull twice as hard as what I'm capable to, if the whole idea is to not wear myself out immediately from the start. So yeah... it's always a question of finding the right balance, what works and what doesn't. The coil positioning also matters a lot. Not just the height, but also the distance between the air holes and the coils. If this distance is too short, too much air bounces back causing undesired turbulence and uneven distribution of air across the surface of the coils. Too long a distance and it won't slam hard enough. Position the coils too high due to your wrong assumption that air in a typical side airflow RDA immediately starts moving diagonally up as the drip tip is where you are sucking, and the slam will miss the center of the coils, miserably.
Sounds already too complicated? This is just the start. The basics. Evaporation in just air occurs faster than evaporation in a mixture of both air and vapor. So part of the reason why you want that fresh clean air to slam right into your coils is simply because of that, and, I started my post by pointing out that faster evaporation causes an increased cooling effect so it isn't just about the air being cold... it's equally about how, and where, you're going to use that air.
That being said, I think I'm going to have myself another nice and moderately warm vape on the 25mm dual coil RDA at .25 ohms on my series mech... it's only about 250 watts. So nothing flamboyant or anything like that, just... you know... a conservative slow, relaxed little vaping style.
If I remember right, that was one of your first mods.
it was my first nice mod. or, my 3rd = ego aio, coolfire4, luxe. after that, i don't remember
Nice little package from @Jinx'd showed up in the mail today. Super cool! A nice little variety of battery wraps like all the cool kids here use, and a couple bonus sheets of carbon fiber!
Im excited! Thanks jinx'd!
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you got em , cool. the wraps are much cooler installed, you'll see. and, for the mnost part, the original wraps don't have to come off =if you only have 1 wrap on the batt, just go over it.
the CF, if you put it on a kinda complex mod or whatever, watch vids on it.
enjoy
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you got em , cool. the wraps are much cooler installed, you'll see. and, for the mnost part, the original wraps don't have to come off =if you only have 1 wrap on the batt, just go over it.
the CF, if you put it on a kinda complex mod or whatever, watch vids on it.
enjoy
I had wondered if it was possible to do this - put a battery wrap over top instead of taking the original one off. I hate to sound like a TOTAL wuss, but I am freaked out by the thought of taking those battery wraps off, and exposing the metal on the battery.
Yeah, people do double wraps. Sometimes it makes for a tight fit though in some mods. I use my mini scissors and just tear an edge. Then I skin the battery like a snake
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No need to be afraid. The whole battery is negative, the top is only the positive part. As long as the 2 don't somehow come in contact, it's all good. Chances of that happening are pretty slim really. As frank said though, double wrapping does have it's disadvantages for mods that have really tight battery tubes/sleds.
what those guys said. i take my exacto and put it under the wrap on the bottom edge, then poke a cut. then grab that and peel off.
put new ones on without the other wrap on it takes a little 'advice".
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Freeman juice order came today. I have flavors Cococaine, Ruth's Loot, Imagine, Vice Cream, and Icebound. Don't know when I'll try them, soon, maybe.
Also got a nice present from my buddy @wildgypsy70 in the form of a one-shot of her new Holy Apple Cream Filled Donut and a full bottle of Purilum Country Apple! Thanks so much, my friend!
I'll be sure to mix up a bottle of the HACFD very soon!
Also got a nice present from my buddy @wildgypsy70 in the form of a one-shot of her new Holy Apple Cream Filled Donut and a full bottle of Purilum Country Apple! Thanks so much, my friend!
I'll be sure to mix up a bottle of the HACFD very soon!
yes, this is very important and wish I had said it earlier. Cut the old wrap from the bottom, not the top. If you slice it from the top, there is a risk that you may cause a short. Take that risk out of the picture and there's no need to worry.
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Thanks @Just Frank @eSMOKA @Jinx'd for battery advice.
Now I just have to decide what to use as a heat source. I think I have a blow dryer somewhere....
Now I just have to decide what to use as a heat source. I think I have a blow dryer somewhere....