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So I seem to progressing at an accelerated rate. I smoke my last cig over a month ago and jumped back into vaping with an ego. A week after that I received my subox mini kit and got hooked on subohm vaping. A week after THAT I started tinkering around with the rba deck and bought a mutation clone rda. Now, I want to do hella rda builds and the 0.3 ohm floor plus the 50 watt cap on the subox isn't helping.

I want to step up, but within reason. I'm not really interested in 150-200 watt monster mods and temp control isn't quite on my interest radar either. Besides the d2, is there a decent unit over 50 watts, with around a 0.1-0.2 ohm floor that isn't hella expensive? I know about the eleaf 100watt but every site I've seen its been cheaper than the 50 watt so that's just odd.
 

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I have the IPV D2 as a quick run around device when I dont feel like carrying a double battery mod.. I like it I think its one of the better build mods..
It works well TC works its just an all around good mod...
Can't go wrong if you are going to hover around 60-65 watts I think the D2 is find.. it will only fire down to .2 ohms in wattage mod that is tested by me not paper bull
 

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If you want a decent powered mod that isn't too expensive, look for a mod called a Hexohm v2. It tops out at 120 watts, and the safe floor is .2 Ohms. You can find them now for 120-130 with sales coupons. They are reliable, but maybe a tad pricey for what you want. No TC, just straight DC-DC boosting. It is a double battery mod, the other idea of a D2 is good. 75 watts is a decent amount of power. Look beyond the immediate and what you will be vaping in 6 months.
 
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i suggest you stay away from the D2 ,especially if you have man hands ,that and me and 2 other people i know of on this forum have had mis-fire issues with theirs
you are better off getting the sigelei 75w TC mod
 

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If you want a decent powered mod that isn't too expensive, look for a mod called a Hexohm v2. It tops out at 120 watts, and the safe floor is .2 Ohms. You can find them now for 120-130 with sales coupons. They are reliable, but maybe a tad pricey for what you want. No TC, just straight DC-DC boosting.
I vaped on one of dem the other day at the Vape Shop.. Isnt the HexOhm dual battery though? It was pretty good
 

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I vaped on one of dem the other day at the Vape Shop.. Isnt the HexOhm dual battery though? It was pretty good
It is, I prefer simplicity and power to bells and whistles, plus I've been beating the crap out of my Hexohm with .2 and .3 Ohm exotic type coils in a dripper and Tank for over a year with not one single problem.
 

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It is, I prefer simplicity and power to bells and whistles, plus I've been beating the crap out of my Hexohm with .2 and .3 Ohm exotic type coils in a dripper and Tank for over a year with not one single problem.
I hear ya... I know you like simple I like everything accept typical :)
 

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I urge you to buy the EVIC VT mini. Less money for a significantly more advanced device.
I like the looks of it and the range, but wouldn't the wattage limit what kind of builds I could do? I'm not talking about alien coils or anything beyond a dual parallel, sleeper, or Clapton.
 

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I like the looks of it and the range, but wouldn't the wattage limit what kind of builds I could do? I'm not talking about alien coils or anything beyond a dual parallel, sleeper, or Clapton.
It does look kinda pretty I always almost drop for one every time I see it its kinda cute like a foxy hooker vaping in all the wrong places ;)
 

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It does look kinda pretty I always almost drop for one every time I see it its kinda cute like a foxy hooker vaping in all the wrong places ;)
But unlike a hooker I'd have no problem putting it on my face. I thought about getting this before I decided on the Kanger because the temp control seemed unnecessary. Then again, I didn't think I'd love subohm either so.... My overall goal is to do some decent dripping.
 
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But unlike a hooker I'd have no problem putting it on my face. I thought about getting this before I decided on the Kanger because the temp control seemed unnecessary. Then again, I didn't think I'd love subohm either so.... My overall goal is to do some decent dripping.
I thought the same thing about TC then I realized to get exactly the best flavor every single time the only only way was with TC.. then I have a new sickness I drip all the time with TC
 

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But unlike a hooker I'd have no problem putting it on my face. I thought about getting this before I decided on the Kanger because the temp control seemed unnecessary. Then again, I didn't think I'd love subohm either so.... My overall goal is to do some decent dripping.
I'd rather get the evic vtc mini, than the D2. I also can't recommend the Sigelei 75WTC. It's as heavy as my dual 18650 devices. In addition, it sporadically doesn't fire. I'm actually thinking of getting evic vtc mini myself, although you might have to carry an additional battery, it's still less weight. In addition, IMHO, 60W is plenty of power for my on the road Sub Ohm tanks.
 

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Well once the vape budget opens up again I guess I know where I'm going. Like I've said before, research can only tell you so much without dialogue. Too bad I decided to sell myself short with the Kanger. Sorta. I got a good mod and a good tank and I learned a lot in a short period of time with it.

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Too bad I decided to sell myself short with the Kanger. Sorta. I got a good mod and a good tank and I learned a lot in a short period of time with it.

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you didn't sell yourself short by any means ,subox is a excellent starter kit

i was up in the air between getting the subox or the D2,i went with the D2 and regretted it !! wished i would've bought the subox now
 

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I'm looking at going D2 for my next mod, just because I like the idea of the tiny form factor for an out-and-about device...

But I'd recommend looking at a dual-battery, 100+ watt step up, unless you're set on a smaller form factor. In one device you'll have enough power to experiment to your heart's content, or bring a boatload of battery power with you. Alternatively, make it your home mod for higher-power dripping and keep the Subox in rotation with a tank on it for more convenient use at other times...whatever direction you go it sounds like you have your eye on some pretty solid mods.
 

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Reading what you really want ... I would agree that the IPV D2 would be your best bet all around. It's not that small. I have quite a few boxes but these are 4 that I use most and, believe it or not, in this order ... d2, subtank mimi, x cube 2 (coz of the size and not being able to use Ti01) and eVic VT
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And even though the D2 is a tad bit smaller than the Subox, the firing and up & down buttons are not.


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So I seem to progressing at an accelerated rate. I smoke my last cig over a month ago and jumped back into vaping with an ego. A week after that I received my subox mini kit and got hooked on subohm vaping. A week after THAT I started tinkering around with the rba deck and bought a mutation clone rda. Now, I want to do hella rda builds and the 0.3 ohm floor plus the 50 watt cap on the subox isn't helping.

I want to step up, but within reason. I'm not really interested in 150-200 watt monster mods and temp control isn't quite on my interest radar either. Besides the d2, is there a decent unit over 50 watts, with around a 0.1-0.2 ohm floor that isn't hella expensive? I know about the eleaf 100watt but every site I've seen its been cheaper than the 50 watt so that's just odd.
I will warn you, you won't get good battery life from the D2 if you are going to use it in watt mode at higher wattage. It is a great mod, I own one myself, but wouldn't use it for max wattage if I needed more power, and I have also grown my collection very fast (I have 7 regulated mods, 2 mech, and a DNA 200W on the way and another mech too).

I would seriously consider the Istick 100W if you are not interested in TC vaping, as it can be bought for ÂŁ40 from the UK.

If not, I would 100% get a dual battery device, either the Xcube 2 which works great on power mode and can be had for ÂŁ55, usually ÂŁ60, so not mega expensive, or the Sig 150TC which can be had for around the same price.

But, like I said, the Istick, for 40 quid, is well worth it man.

If you are planning to use a higher wattage, then duals is the way to go.

I was scared of getting my first due to marrying batteries. Don't be like me, it just means charge them at the same time and always keep that set as a pair, couldn't be simpler. Also, either at 50% swap your batteries from left to right, or on each cycle change the position of the batteries, so battery A would be in place of battery B on the left.

Once you get one of these devices, I doubt you will genuinely go above 100 watts, unless you are building mega duper quad coil alien hybrid tornado machete coils. Standard coils work fine for getting big cloud if you want, claptons even better, but Instead of around 60-70 watts throwing massive clouds, you can crank it right up to 100, or even past that, and REALLY chuck some clouds.

If you are more after flavour though, use the device at lower wattage.

Remember, just because the device does 150 watts doesn't mean you always use it at 150 W, most of mine are used between 15-80 watts, depending on what build I have.

It is very rare I need to go over 100.

Hope this helps :).
 

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Reading what you really want ... I would agree that the IPV D2 would be your best bet all around. It's not that small. I have quite a few boxes but these are 4 that I use most and, believe it or not, in this order ... d2, subtank mimi, x cube 2 (coz of the size and not being able to use Ti01) and eVic VT
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And even though the D2 is a tad bit smaller than the Subox, the firing and up & down buttons are not.


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Can I ask why you can not use TI01 on your Xcube 2? If its due to the upgrade, you do know you go back into the app, and click upgrade again while its connected via bluetooth? It does not charge you as you have already payed :)

You do this once, it will not show, but quit the app and restart, and then it will still have SS to activate.

Do this, then TI works great on it :). It is my go to Mod for TI, along with the IPV D2.

I agree the D2 is a great little mod, but if you are maxing it out, as it seems you want more wattage, the battery will go extremely fast.
 
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I'd rather get the evic vtc mini, than the D2. I also can't recommend the Sigelei 75WTC. It's as heavy as my dual 18650 devices. In addition, it sporadically doesn't fire. I'm actually thinking of getting evic vtc mini myself, although you might have to carry an additional battery, it's still less weight. In addition, IMHO, 60W is plenty of power for my on the road Sub Ohm tanks.

I'm looking at going D2 for my next mod, just because I like the idea of the tiny form factor for an out-and-about device...

But I'd recommend looking at a dual-battery, 100+ watt step up, unless you're set on a smaller form factor. In one device you'll have enough power to experiment to your heart's content, or bring a boatload of battery power with you. Alternatively, make it your home mod for higher-power dripping and keep the Subox in rotation with a tank on it for more convenient use at other times...whatever direction you go it sounds like you have your eye on some pretty solid mods.

I figured out the firing issue. You have to ensure you press DEAD centre of the button, if it is anywhere away from the middle of the button it will sometimes fire, sometimes not (Sig 75 TC).

I also can not recommend the current SIg 75 TC. I recoommend a 100W+ dual battery device jsut like OBdave, then you have all the room to play with you want plus great battery life when being used lower power.

Also, the Istick being 40 quid in the UK is a real bargain if TC is not a bother. If TC is essential, the D2 is good, but obviously a dual battery will last much longer, and has a wider W/J adjustment (although 50J is enough to get most coils almost immediatelty
 

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I'd rather get the evic vtc mini, than the D2. I also can't recommend the Sigelei 75WTC. It's as heavy as my dual 18650 devices. In addition, it sporadically doesn't fire. I'm actually thinking of getting evic vtc mini myself, although you might have to carry an additional battery, it's still less weight. In addition, IMHO, 60W is plenty of power for my on the road Sub Ohm tanks.

I'm looking at going D2 for my next mod, just because I like the idea of the tiny form factor for an out-and-about device...

But I'd recommend looking at a dual-battery, 100+ watt step up, unless you're set on a smaller form factor. In one device you'll have enough power to experiment to your heart's content, or bring a boatload of battery power with you. Alternatively, make it your home mod for higher-power dripping and keep the Subox in rotation with a tank on it for more convenient use at other times...whatever direction you go it sounds like you have your eye on some pretty solid mods.

I figured out the firing issue. You have to ensure you press DEAD centre of the button, if it is anywhere away from the middle of the button it will sometimes fire, sometimes not (Sig 75 TC).

I also can not recommend the current SIg 75 TC. I recoommend a 100W+ dual battery device jsut like OBdave, then you have all the room to play with you want plus great battery life when being used lower power.

Also, the Istick being 40 quid in the UK is a real bargain if TC is not a bother. If TC is essential, the D2 is good, but obviously a dual battery will last much longer, and has a wider W/J adjustment (although 50J is enough to get most coils almost immediately to temp, for example if I am using the Subtank mini at around 0.7, 20-25 W provides lovely clouds in TC mode. Anything above that does not really cause bigger clouds or flavour, just a faster temp limit hit, and faster battery drain. Also, It works a lot smoother due to not often needing the TC to be hit at that wattage.
 

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Can I ask why you can not use TI01 on your Xcube 2? If its due to the upgrade, you do know you go back into the app, and click upgrade again while its connected via bluetooth? It does not charge you as you have already payed :)

You do this once, it will not show, but quit the app and restart, and then it will still have SS to activate.

Do this, then TI works great on it :). It is my go to Mod for TI, along with the IPV D2.

I agree the D2 is a great little mod, but if you are maxing it out, as it seems you want more wattage, the battery will go extremely fast.
I already did everything you suggested, and more. The app said I've upgraded, but the box itself won't let me choose Ti01, no option for that, only Ni200.
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i suggest you stay away from the D2 ,especially if you have man hands ,that and me and 2 other people i know of on this forum have had mis-fire issues with theirs
you are better off getting the sigelei 75w TC mod
I agree. The eleaf I've heard nothing but problems as well expecially the 50 watt besides what I've read I have a couple friends both of them have the 50w both auto fire even when in locked mode and have other issues as well. Sigelei are really good mods I have a couple and also have the sig 75w for on the go/work purposes. It's taken a beating and I still have no problems with it whatsoever. Great lil workhorse with enough power for the average sub ohm vaper. My typical sweet spot is between 70-90 watts. Unless when I'm using my mechs then I just build mostly between .2-.25 witch usually run the 60-70 watt range
How is it more advanced? puff counter or?


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I don't mind changing batteries especially since I can get one to last most of the day at work and pass through capabilities. I like the look of the eleaf 100 watt, but I've been taking those good reviews with a grain of salt. Between the threading issues with the 20 and the other issues with the 50 I doubt I'd go that way.

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So I seem to progressing at an accelerated rate. I smoke my last cig over a month ago and jumped back into vaping with an ego. A week after that I received my subox mini kit and got hooked on subohm vaping. A week after THAT I started tinkering around with the rba deck and bought a mutation clone rda. Now, I want to do hella rda builds and the 0.3 ohm floor plus the 50 watt cap on the subox isn't helping.

I want to step up, but within reason. I'm not really interested in 150-200 watt monster mods and temp control isn't quite on my interest radar either. Besides the d2, is there a decent unit over 50 watts, with around a 0.1-0.2 ohm floor that isn't hella expensive? I know about the eleaf 100watt but every site I've seen its been cheaper than the 50 watt so that's just odd.
My vote goes to the D2..Its become my favorite mod out and about, form factor is great driving and it fits easily in my shirt pocket... in-mod charging actually works with no issues at all...Had it now for a couple months...
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OK now it's narrowed down between the d2 and the eVic vtc mini. I'm leaning more towards the evic so I guess it's more than narrowed down.

Thanks for the help folks. I appreciate it. Hell, I may even use that temp control when I get it.
 

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I'd rather get the evic vtc mini, than the D2. I also can't recommend the Sigelei 75WTC. It's as heavy as my dual 18650 devices. In addition, it sporadically doesn't fire. I'm actually thinking of getting evic vtc mini myself, although you might have to carry an additional battery, it's still less weight. In addition, IMHO, 60W is plenty of power for my on the road Sub Ohm tanks.

Have you noticed the Sigelei 75wTC having problems with temperature control and not having any sort of dry coil protection?
I returned one, the replacement came with the same issues but usable (the first one just burnt but maybe I had a better idea of how to deal with it the 2nd try). At first on the 2nd one the temperature setting didn't really matter, it was all what watts it was set to. After making it show the version a couple times it started having some kind of temperature control but still won't drop below .70v when not puffing so it will still burn a dry wick.
I haven't had it not fire yet.

VTC gets my vote. It doesn't chew through batteries like the Sigelei. In TC mode I wouldn't expect someone to need a spare battery for an average 8hr work day.
I like my D2's too but VTC feels like better quality plus they can (and have) updated it.
 

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Have you noticed the Sigelei 75wTC having problems with temperature control and not having any sort of dry coil protection?
I returned one, the replacement came with the same issues but usable (the first one just burnt but maybe I had a better idea of how to deal with it the 2nd try). At first on the 2nd one the temperature setting didn't really matter, it was all what watts it was set to. After making it show the version a couple times it started having some kind of temperature control but still won't drop below .70v when not puffing so it will still burn a dry wick.
I haven't had it not fire yet.

VTC gets my vote. It doesn't chew through batteries like the Sigelei. In TC mode I wouldn't expect someone to need a spare battery for an average 8hr work day.
I like my D2's too but VTC feels like better quality plus they can (and have) updated it.
That update thing is another reason why that gets my final vote. Besides, I've seen too many D2s recently. I'd rather have something less popular that works within my needs than something everyone has that wouldn't meet what I want to do with it.


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That update thing is another reason why that gets my final vote. Besides, I've seen too many D2s recently. I'd rather have something less popular that works within my needs than something everyone has that wouldn't meet what I want to do with it.


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I will say if you want a TFV4 it's 24mm, the VTC is 22mm, the D2 is 24mm. 22mm tanks look OK on the 24mm mod but 24mm tanks don't look good on the 22mm mod.
 

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It'll be like a chihuahua head on a boxer body. Sorta how I feel about pickup trucks with crew cabs and 4 foot beds. All head, no ass.
 

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It'll be like a chihuahua head on a boxer body. Sorta how I feel about pickup trucks with crew cabs and 4 foot beds. All head, no ass.

LOL, that's how I felt about any tank on these mini mods. It's starting to grow on me. Now the SubTank on IVP4 is looking small.
 

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i suggest you stay away from the D2 ,especially if you have man hands ,that and me and 2 other people i know of on this forum have had mis-fire issues with theirs
you are better off getting the sigelei 75w TC mod
My two are doing great. No issues. Great mod. One thing to speak of issues, another to say to steal clear. As a whole IPV is well regarded and puts out good mods.

I agree with the Sigeli 75. Nice box. But even Sigeli has had "issues". But they make good stuff.



D2 is a good single battery box. If you don't care for TC, you don't have to use it. My story is similar to yours. Just got 2 D2s, and I'm already moving up. As fast as you are going, my guess is you will be looking at 150w + TC mods next month. :)
 

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LOL, that's how I felt about any tank on these mini mods. It's starting to grow on me. Now the SubTank on IVP4 is looking small.
I think that's part of the draw I have towards RDAs lately. It doesn't seem off balance because the atomizer is just as petite.
 

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My two are doing great. No issues. Great mod. One thing to speak of issues, another to say to steal clear. As a whole IPV is well regarded and puts out good mods.

I agree with the Sigeli 75. Nice box. But even Sigeli has had "issues". But they make good stuff.



D2 is a good single battery box. If you don't care for TC, you don't have to use it. My story is similar to yours. Just got 2 D2s, and I'm already moving up. As fast as you are going, my guess is you will be looking at 150w + TC mods next month. :)
If I had had the budget for both I'd do just that. However, I'll go for the evic for the same reason I chose the subox kit, all the extras it comes with. An extra tank and 2 coils makes the deal a little sweeter.

I'm already glancing at mech mods and I'm happy my vape budget isn't anywhere near that level of curiosity yet. The look of the made man Hitman mods and the AR mods are sick.

I'm trying to pace myself now. I don't want my corner in the basement to look like rip tripper's backup pile.
 

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My two are doing great. No issues. Great mod. One thing to speak of issues, another to say to steal clear. As a whole IPV is well regarded and puts out good mods.

well you 2 good ones ,and i know of 3 bad ones ,whats that tell ya {shut up thats what it tells ya} P4U is not that well regarded
 

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well you 2 good ones ,and i know of 3 bad ones ,whats that tell ya {shut up thats what it tells ya} P4U is not that well regarded

If that's the case you should really avoid saying "you are better off getting the sigelei 75w TC mod". I have 2 D2's that are perfect and have been through 2 Sigelei's that are/were complete garbage as far as TC goes, possibly dangerous garbage. Plus the one mentioned above makes that 3-2.
So VTC it is I guess.
 

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If that's the case you should really avoid saying "you are better off getting the sigelei 75w TC mod". I have 2 D2's that are perfect and have been through 2 Sigelei's that are/were complete garbage as far as TC goes, possibly dangerous garbage. Plus the one mentioned above makes that 3-2.
So VTC it is I guess.

well yes,guess i should have added in,i have bought 2 ipv products so far,neither lasted over 3 months ,my siggy's on the other hand are still going strong

the OP was asking for options "other then" the D2
 
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I have a d2 and has the same TC specs as my IPV3li. It is perfect for me when I'm driving (all my cars are stick). Just with a subtank on it, it just doesn't hit like my drippers. It can blow clouds just doesn't have the throat hit.
 

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I have a d2 and has the same TC specs as my IPV3li. It is perfect for me when I'm driving (all my cars are stick). Just with a subtank on it, it just doesn't hit like my drippers. It can blow clouds just doesn't have the throat hit.
Kudos for keeping the stick alive. I've been trying to convince the wife to learn it since wants a car to save gas from our suv and I want a manual. Instead of dealing with the hassle of having 2 cars, one auto and one manual I'm trying to turn her to my side.
 

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the OP was asking for options "other then" the D2

True and that is a pet peeve of mine, which happened right off. Although that means they don't need urged to stay away either.

I wouldn't recommend the Sig minis any more. I think they changed something. I saw a video with dry coil protection working so I have no doubt that it was real TC at one time, but my 2 recently bought is not a fluke. They both acted enough alike that it's a hardware or software change.
They're garbage enough that I'm turned off the Sigelei name just like you're turned off the P4U name, except my Sigs came FOA, you at least got 3 months. They're the ONLY ecigs I've ever had arrive bad or even go bad (other than RN-4072 batts with sticky auto switches from leaking & lack of use).
I have 5 P4U's and all but the D2s are older than 3 months and the D2's are in their 3rd month.

VTC on the other hand, I haven't heard of any issues with it yet.
 

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True and that is a pet peeve of mine, which happened right off. Although that means they don't need urged to stay away either.

I wouldn't recommend the Sig minis any more. I think they changed something. I saw a video with dry coil protection working so I have no doubt that it was real TC at one time, but my 2 recently bought is not a fluke. They both acted enough alike that it's a hardware or software change.
They're garbage enough that I'm turned off the Sigelei name just like you're turned off the P4U name, except my Sigs came FOA, you at least got 3 months. They're the ONLY ecigs I've ever had arrive bad or even go bad (other than RN-4072 batts with sticky auto switches from leaking & lack of use).
I have 5 P4U's and all but the D2s are older than 3 months and the D2's are in their 3rd month.

VTC on the other hand, I haven't heard of any issues with it yet.
My tradeoff is not really wanting the to function but I've heard more good about the evic than anything else in that range. I'm not exactly willing to fork over $100+ for a feature I'm not sold on using just because it operates well in a certain device. The Sigeili name seems to be the seller more than the actual product (Samsung, Apple) so I just instinctively avoid it. The Kanger I picked up came across as the Motorola of mods, good at what it's there for, but not that overhyped brand name.
 

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My tradeoff is not really wanting the to function but I've heard more good about the evic than anything else in that range. I'm not exactly willing to fork over $100+ for a feature I'm not sold on using just because it operates well in a certain device. The Sigeili name seems to be the seller more than the actual product (Samsung, Apple) so I just instinctively avoid it. The Kanger I picked up came across as the Motorola of mods, good at what it's there for, but not that overhyped brand name.

At least with these low priced minis you're not paying a high price for any extra features. As long as everything you want functions you can be happy.
I could be happy with my complete rip off Smok M80+ if I wanted a VW mod instead of a TC mod, the battery life and recharge is great.
 

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There hasnt been much about the sub box mini on here and I just want to give my opinion. I had both a D2 and a sub box and ended up almost exclusively using the sub box. Its a good compact size with enough power to run consistently at and above 0.5 ohms. It doesnt have the low floor you are looking for but i can say that with a subtank mini on top or a TV4 you will get prime vapour production and exceptional flavour.
 

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At least with these low priced minis you're not paying a high price for any extra features. As long as everything you want functions you can be happy.
I could be happy with my complete rip off Smok M80+ if I wanted a VW mod instead of a TC mod, the battery life and recharge is great.
Basically how I felt about the subox. I wasn't interested in subohm and hella watts, but anything box mod listed them as features so I figured why not get it and try it. Funnily enough, now 0.3 ohm and 50w isn't enough. I might eventually use the tc, just not the day I get it.
 

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Have you noticed the Sigelei 75wTC having problems with temperature control and not having any sort of dry coil protection?
I returned one, the replacement came with the same issues but usable (the first one just burnt but maybe I had a better idea of how to deal with it the 2nd try). At first on the 2nd one the temperature setting didn't really matter, it was all what watts it was set to. After making it show the version a couple times it started having some kind of temperature control but still won't drop below .70v when not puffing so it will still burn a dry wick.
I haven't had it not fire yet.

VTC gets my vote. It doesn't chew through batteries like the Sigelei. In TC mode I wouldn't expect someone to need a spare battery for an average 8hr work day.
I like my D2's too but VTC feels like better quality plus they can (and have) updated it.
My Sigelei 75W TC works fine in TC mode, no problems there. However, as mentioned, it's just too heavy for a single 18650 device. I can live with the mod sporadically not to fire.
 
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OK now it's narrowed down between the d2 and the eVic vtc mini. I'm leaning more towards the evic so I guess it's more than narrowed down.

Thanks for the help folks. I appreciate it. Hell, I may even use that temp control when I get it.
Since I've done my research, due to wanting a lighter on the road mod, I ordered the evic vtc mini today. I got the permission from my government (wife) to spent the money, 'cause it's my birthday today.
Get it at PremiumVapeSupply with the permanent 10% cupon code VU10.
 

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True and that is a pet peeve of mine, which happened right off. Although that means they don't need urged to stay away either.

I wouldn't recommend the Sig minis any more. I think they changed something. I saw a video with dry coil protection working so I have no doubt that it was real TC at one time, but my 2 recently bought is not a fluke. They both acted enough alike that it's a hardware or software change.
They're garbage enough that I'm turned off the Sigelei name just like you're turned off the P4U name, except my Sigs came FOA, you at least got 3 months. They're the ONLY ecigs I've ever had arrive bad or even go bad (other than RN-4072 batts with sticky auto switches from leaking & lack of use).
I have 5 P4U's and all but the D2s are older than 3 months and the D2's are in their 3rd month.

VTC on the other hand, I haven't heard of any issues with it yet.

so far i am not too impressed with TC at all,it can be fooled rather easily
built a .1 using ekowool,it fire that wick up no problem and no "no liquid" warning at any time

in a dripper if you inhale faster after getting a no liquid warning ,it will still fire until that wick is dry and burning up
 

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Btw, I definitely have my eyes set on the eVic vtc mini now. Within the zip file for the firmware upgrade 1.10, there's version 1.20. That bumps output to 75 watts! So now there's nothing holding me back from making this decision
 

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