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Mythical_OD

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Word, thats what I thought. Just wanted to be sure so you guys dont read about me in the papers tomorrow and laugh at my disfigurement lol.

Im sure Ive got an RDA with a properly protruding pin (Ive got about a dozen or so). Gonna have to check em out when I get it tonight. Super stoked on the Cricket though. Been hearing about it for months, but wasnt until lately that I really wanted one. Been on a little bit of a power trip lately, just always need more and more. I think this will satisfy me lol (not that the RX200 isnt powerful, I just want raw untamed power without fucking with settings and extra buttons)
 

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Yeah I don't know if it's the device or the build, but it's nice. And don't worry I'm the same, bought an RX200 (which I had to send back because it was acting funny, but just exchanging), NC, and Tres Equis all in the last 2 weeks, and contemplating another NC and a Pico. Then a handful of toppers as well.
 

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My question for all you cricket head's is the non locking button. What's your experience with it?
I'm a front left Jean pocket kinda guy and I'm a little worried I'd fire up this little beast while pocketed.


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Nope. It doesn't have a locking button like on a tube mod. It will fire if the button gets pushed. Don't put it in your front left Jean pocket.
 

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I've been thinking about making some kind of clip to lock it. Should be able to take a stiffer wire, make a big loop around the gap in the button, and then pinch it off and have 2 overlapping hoops that I could toss something in to lock it on. Might be a bit of a pain, maybe just interlocking hoops, either way seems like something that could be done. I have a picture in my mind, I know I've seen similar things for some tube clamps that are supposed to be easy to take on and off. Anyways, that's my thought and I might give it a go tonight.
 

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It's definitely not a deal breaker for me, I do most of my dripping at home. I just have a feeling I'm not going to want to put it down once I get it.

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I plan on just carrying the batteries in a dual battery storage box when I wanna take it out and about. No biggie, just pop em in when you wanna vape it.
 

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I plan on just carrying the batteries in a dual battery storage box when I wanna take it out and about. No biggie, just pop em in when you wanna vape it.
Just a FYI, it's a lot of threading, so it can be kind of a pain to do this. Also being hybrid at least personally I like to keep it nice and tight so sometimes that positive side I end up using my needlenose pliers or tweezers in the holes to twist it out.
 

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My question for all you cricket head's is the non locking button. What's your experience with it?
I'm a front left Jean pocket kinda guy and I'm a little worried I'd fire up this little beast while pocketed.


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I just loosen my atty enough to where it can't fire. It only takes about one turn.;)
 

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It's definitely not a deal breaker for me, I do most of my dripping at home. I just have a feeling I'm not going to want to put it down once I get it.

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A hard drive case works great, look for them on Newegg

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A hard drive case works great, look for them on Newegg

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All great info, thanks y'all. I'm new to VU and already having a better time than I did with the other guys.
Cheers!

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Finally got the NC all set up and running. Wound up building a lot higher than I wanted by accident. I was shooting for a .6 but it wound up at around a .9. Still though, its a pretty nice vape. Wanted to put some 2x 26 and 36 fused claptons in it, but looking at steam engine Id have had to do something crazy like 23 wraps to get each coil to a 1.2 ohm for a .6 dual set up. Any good suggestions for builds in it that arent crazy complicated? On hand I have that fused clapton, 26/32 clapton, quad and dual 28 twisted, some Hive, some "Alien" wire (basically a thick ribbon thats wrapped), Tiger wire, flat twist, helix claptons, and I think some juggernaut wire. Right now Im using 11 wrap 26/32 clapton @ 2.5 mm.

Really dig the mod itself. The only problem I have with it is that the button is kind of sticky. Im worried that one time its gonna stick down and its gonna keep firing and I wont be able to get it back up or taken off in time. Probably would be able to get it off or up before something bad happened, but just dont wanna deal with it.

Any tips for making the button smoother?
 

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Finally got the NC all set up and running. Wound up building a lot higher than I wanted by accident. I was shooting for a .6 but it wound up at around a .9. Still though, its a pretty nice vape. Wanted to put some 2x 26 and 36 fused claptons in it, but looking at steam engine Id have had to do something crazy like 23 wraps to get each coil to a 1.2 ohm for a .6 dual set up. Any good suggestions for builds in it that arent crazy complicated? On hand I have that fused clapton, 26/32 clapton, quad and dual 28 twisted, some Hive, some "Alien" wire (basically a thick ribbon thats wrapped), Tiger wire, flat twist, helix claptons, and I think some juggernaut wire. Right now Im using 11 wrap 26/32 clapton @ 2.5 mm.

Really dig the mod itself. The only problem I have with it is that the button is kind of sticky. Im worried that one time its gonna stick down and its gonna keep firing and I wont be able to get it back up or taken off in time. Probably would be able to get it off or up before something bad happened, but just dont wanna deal with it.

Any tips for making the button smoother?
I just wrap 30x2/36 fused Clapton's and it works very well. Get a drill, some ball bearing fishing spinners and fused Clapton's are very easy to make. Hell just to see if I could I made some 34x2/40 fused Clapton wire. Not sure what I'm going to use it in, but it wrapped up fine.

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Like I said, I have a whole roll of fused clapton wire, its just not possible to wrap it up for a dual coil build coming in at a .6.

Unless youre saying to wrap my own at a thinner gauge to make it possible, in which case I have a bunch of wire and plans of making my own specialty wire, but right now I dont have the set up and just looking to use what I got.
 

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Finally got the NC all set up and running. Wound up building a lot higher than I wanted by accident. I was shooting for a .6 but it wound up at around a .9. Still though, its a pretty nice vape. Wanted to put some 2x 26 and 36 fused claptons in it, but looking at steam engine Id have had to do something crazy like 23 wraps to get each coil to a 1.2 ohm for a .6 dual set up. Any good suggestions for builds in it that arent crazy complicated? On hand I have that fused clapton, 26/32 clapton, quad and dual 28 twisted, some Hive, some "Alien" wire (basically a thick ribbon thats wrapped), Tiger wire, flat twist, helix claptons, and I think some juggernaut wire. Right now Im using 11 wrap 26/32 clapton @ 2.5 mm.

Really dig the mod itself. The only problem I have with it is that the button is kind of sticky. Im worried that one time its gonna stick down and its gonna keep firing and I wont be able to get it back up or taken off in time. Probably would be able to get it off or up before something bad happened, but just dont wanna deal with it.

Any tips for making the button smoother?
Sticky button is the reason you follow the CDR, even if it continuously fires you'll only hurt your build but not your body.

Anyways, you have 28g? Make a Fused Clapton out of that, I have... 8 count of wraps on the outiside, call it 7 full wraps? Anyways, it's .48Ω, just beautiful vape, maybe a tad warm for some, but I have plenty of room such that I could add another wrap (this is in the Avocado). Before that I had .6Ω in a Haze dripper but it was too small. 28g fused Claptons are great for this series build stuff, you could build with lower gauge but for me personally that'd be too low. I wish I had some 27g wire as I think that'd be perfect to hit the size I want with the resistance I want, but I don't and I don't know where to get any good wire like that.

BTW, I don't know what's going on, but "Alien" = decored and rewrapped clapton, typically 3 wire core. I've seen it a lot on the premade wire where they're calling Stapled wire Alien wire. Flat wire claptoned = stapled. Typical chinese factories doing their own thing :blah:.

If you have swivels 28g is simple to make fused claptons, even doing it imperfectly will result in a damn fine vape. I've taken it and space it so it's probably 1/4 less wrap than would be needed for perfect, took all of 2 minutes to wind it down the strands. Still vaped nicely just not as nice as perfect, but still far better than most other builds. Probably close to Parallel builds but it's easier to wrap and install than parallel. I use 40g wire for wrapping though, but again 1-2minutes of running the drill quickly wrapping up 3 coils worth of 28g "fused clapton" even if spaced, worth it.
 

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Appreciate the advice, I'll give that 28 a try later.

I know what real alien is, I'm just using that term because it's what's printed on the roll. It's just a single thicker ribbon wrapped with standard wire.
 

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Wanted to put some 2x 26 and 36 fused claptons in it, but looking at steam engine Id have had to do something crazy like 23 wraps to get each coil to a 1.2 ohm for a .6 dual set up.
I'd think you'd want to build much lower than that with fused 26. It's got a lot of mass to it. I mean, dual fused 28's with really thin outer wraps (38-40) tend to work well at ~.4. A fused 26 built that much higher has to be pretty laggy.

Standard claptons work great. My vote goes to the SC 26/32 if .6 is what you're shooting for, though honestly, 36 or thinner would be a better outer gauge. 32 gives you an excessive amount of mass for the wrap-count.

Some of my favorites are .7 2.5mm dual fused 30/40, .38 3mm dual fused 28/38, .6 2mm dual SC 28/36, and .65 2.5mm dual SC 27/38. Simple claptons at higher gauges.

The higher gauges seem to handle the power better and maybe it's just me, but the finer wire seems to bring out more nuance in the flavor. You don't have to build ridiculously massive coils that require ridiculous wattage this way. Most people's first thought is to build fat-ass coils for series, but it has been my experience that its better to use higher gauges that pull less power and have a bit less mass to them. Since you can essentially double the wrap count, using lower-gauge, more complex coils can be a bit much.
 
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Mythical_OD

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Im gonna try some stuff out. Having the Noisy Cricket and needing higher gauge wire is finally gonna give me the kick in the ass I needed to get building wire. Before I always wanted to, but I have so much specialty wire on rolls that work great in regular mods that I never had the need to.
 

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I love 26/36 FC, 10 wrap 3.2id. ~.31. Only problem is they are hard to get into a 22mm atty. I have that build in a mini Buddha I have on a larger series box. Even then those coils take up a lot of room.
 

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Harbor Freight, $32.99 - works great!


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I have the same one. I didn't know what I was missing g till I used it. You can actually see the oil come off wire it's nuts. I even off my finger tips in the water so no oil will get on my wicking. Just the tips ;)

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Harbor Freight, $32.99 - works great!


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Chef, what is the make and model on that one? I see that these are the lower end of the price spectrum, I hate getting a "starter" unit only to find that I end up buying a better model to get superior performance. Are you happy with it, or do you kind of wish you had a better (read more expensive) unit? I read that the trays break down and need replacement, does that one have replacements available? Or is that even an issue? Supposedly the best cleaning performance is near the surface of the liquid, wonder if some have trays that elevate the pieces to be cleaned near the surface. Are you using just water, or do you add any chemicals or cleaning solutions? Sorry for all the questions :blah:, going to get one just want to try and do it right for a change. thanks
 

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I've had no problems with it whatsoever. I just use warm water. Works great! I'd say it's more in the mid-range, as far as quality is concerned. There are cheaper ones available, but I wanted to get something that I knew I would be happy with. The higher end models are nice, but overkill for my purposes. CLICK HERE for more info from Harbor Freight.
 

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Thanks

Reviews indicate that it is capable for cleaning cases, which is the other use I had in mind.
 

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Ive had my Cricket for a few days now and I love love love it. Its all Im using now at home (still not taking it out yet). I can see why you guys get 2, 3, 4 of them lol. I might need to pick up another. The power you get off it is awesome and the simplicity of it and the way the button sits just make it so comfortable and easy to use.

Matter of fact, its so confortable in the hand I actually fell asleep with it in my hand the other night lmao. I put it next to my bed and took a few hits while laying in bed watching TV and then bam, next thing I know Im waking up and noticing its still in my hand lol. I recognize that its a dangerous thing to fall asleep with a series unregulated mod in the bed, but it is what it is and nothing bad happened thankfully.
 

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Alls well that ends well, but that had the potential to be painful. Last night I came real close to kissing the dragon. Watching boxing and enjoying the NC/Petri combo as usual and got distracted by a flurry in the ring while dripping. Yanked it away before I hit the fire button but had to wipe juice off my mouth :blech:
 

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Ouch, that could have hurt.

I actually did something similar last night myself. I was going ahead and doing a mass coil change and was rolling and installing new coils on 4 rdas/rtas, and Im pretty thorough so it was taking a few hours. Anyways, I was using my RX200 to prefire and squeeze the coils. I had an rda on the RX (with it on) and I was just putting the second coil leg into the post hole when I accidentally pressed the fire button while the coil was still pinched between my fingertips :bomb::cuss:. It was probably only a second to a second and a half press, and they were big coils so they dont ramp up fast, but they still got hot enough to leave a little clapton patch burned into my finger for a few hours lol
 

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Lol, yep a similar incident was what prompted the 521 tab purchase.
 

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I actually have a 521 Tab too, I just dont like to use it lol. I dont get enough power from it. They should have made it series or VW so you could get more power out of it. Dont get me wrong, its fine for single strand kanthal coils and the like, but you get into more complex stuff with more mass and theres just not enough power to heat them up properly (imo anyway).

Plus, I like to be able to move the build deck around and rotate it and such to get a view of all angles and work close up, so a desktop device like the 521 doesnt work well for me, Id rather just use a mod that I can adjust the power and move around easily.
 

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Yeah you have to be on and off the fire button and pulse it for anything more than a standard clapton.
 

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Has anyone used the Goon on the Cricket? Was wondering if it would fit, don't really care about overhang but is there room for the fire button. Until vape mail arrives all I have is 22mm stuff.
 

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Has anyone used the Goon on the Cricket? Was wondering if it would fit, don't really care about overhang but is there room for the fire button. Until vape mail arrives all I have is 22mm stuff.

It should, 24 mm attys fit and I think the goon somewhere around 23 right?
 

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If 24's fit, then I'm sure the goon will too. Cool, clones can be had for 12 bucks and series builds for the cricket will fit into that easily.
 

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I think they need to come out with a brass version and a copper version.
My Doge copper RDA would look really good sittin' on top of a copper Cricket. :D
 

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+1 for copper. Drop 'em a hint when you make the gb purchase. :)

edit - copper, not copper paint ;)

edit - nevermind, brain fart. gb is for the Petri. Early onset senility I guess lol
 
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I think they need to come out with a brass version and a copper version.
My Doge copper RDA would look really good sittin' on top of a copper Cricket. :D
Forget looks. I just want something more durable than aluminum.

If we're gonna talk about looks and durability... ...gunmetal black stainless steel gets my vote. I would pay far more than it's worth if they bevel the edges and polish it, too. That would be A1.

I kinda like that they're cheap and work well... ...but damn, what I wouldn't give for a fancy cricket.
 

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Hahaha. I'm telling you, if I had the funds and connections, I would commission a US manufacturer to produce top-shelf noisy cricket clones - I would do it in a heartbeat. I'd call it the Dapper Locust. Its mascot would be an impeccably well-dressed locust with a sweet beard... ...he'd be lookin like a fuckin sir, not some mythical forest nymph.

If the Chinese can clone American products and make them cheaper, then Americans can clone Chinese products and make them better.
 

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What are you doing with your plethora of NC's that you need something more durable? o_O
 

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Hahaha. I'm telling you, if I had the funds and connections, I would commission a US manufacturer to produce top-shelf noisy cricket clones - I would do it in a heartbeat. I'd call it the Dapper Locust. Its mascot would be an impeccably well-dressed locust with a sweet beard... ...he'd be lookin like a fuckin sir, not some mythical forest nymph.

If the Chinese can clone American products and make them cheaper, then Americans can clone Chinese products and make them better.

Make a 26650 while you're at it.
 

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What are you doing with your plethora of NC's that you need something more durable? o_O
Well, aside from little scratches, dips, and chips, they're holding up well.

My main issue with aluminum is the thread lifespan. Aluminum is too soft. The threads inevitably wear out. I don't see them lasting for years and years. My oldest one is now held together with super-glue. The female for the screws holding in the bottom plate completely stripped out. hell, the threads in general are pretty shot. Even my newer ones are starting to show the wear, even with constant care.

The problem here is that the topper and button housing are made of brass. Brass is harder than aluminum. It eats those aluminum threads for lunch. It's a poor choice in materials.

And sure, why not 26650? It's not like this fantasy will ever come true anyway :/

Who will make us our really nice noisy crickets? Who do we have to throw our money at to make this happen? Anyone?
 
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Mind as well buy a HOG V2...which I think would be smaller and better all around...
 

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Well, aside from little scratches, dips, and chips, they're holding up well.

My main issue with aluminum is the thread lifespan. Aluminum is too soft. The threads inevitably wear out. I don't see them lasting for years and years. My oldest one is now held together with super-glue. The threads for the screws holding in the bottom plate completely stripped out. hell, the threads in general are pretty shot. Even my newer ones are starting to show the wear, even with constant care.

The problem here is that the topper and button housing are made of brass. Brass is harder than aluminum. It eats those aluminum threads for lunch. It's a poor choice in materials.

And sure, why not 26650? It's not like this fantasy will ever come true anyway :/

Who will make us our really nice noisy crickets? Who do we have to throw our money at to make this happen? Anyone?
My curiosity is piqued now. I shall have to research this. Stainless, brass, copper all sound pretty nice.

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Mind as well buy a HOG V2...which I think would be smaller and better all around...

you can never have to many series boxes. You'd have less voltage drop with a 26650 cricket than a HOG v2. Sure a 26650 NC would be wider than a HOG but it wouldn't be any wider than a 26650 battery case. With rounded edges I doubt it would be to big.
 

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You'd have less voltage drop with a 26650 cricket than a HOG v2.
Not sure the difference in VD between the two would be noticeable. While the HOG v2 may not be a fully mechanical direct-to-battery mod, 26650 cells have higher IR (higher VD) than their 18650 counterparts.
 

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Well, aside from little scratches, dips, and chips, they're holding up well.

My main issue with aluminum is the thread lifespan. Aluminum is too soft. The threads inevitably wear out. I don't see them lasting for years and years. My oldest one is now held together with super-glue. The threads for the screws holding in the bottom plate completely stripped out. hell, the threads in general are pretty shot. Even my newer ones are starting to show the wear, even with constant care.

The problem here is that the topper and button housing are made of brass. Brass is harder than aluminum. It eats those aluminum threads for lunch. It's a poor choice in materials.

And sure, why not 26650? It's not like this fantasy will ever come true anyway :/

Who will make us our really nice noisy crickets? Who do we have to throw our money at to make this happen? Anyone?

You Sir, are hard on mods. ;) Outside of self inflicted marks (beveled bottom edge) all I can find is one nick on the silver one. The threads benefit from some lube. I used powdered graphite, but I know there are aluminum specific lubes available. I put the fire button on first, just to the point that it snugs up to the battery. Hybrid cap on the atty first then snug that up. Not necessary and probably a bad idea to use a tool ie; screwdriver, coin, etc. Avoidance of cross threading is paramount, but not insinuating you do that lol. The threads on these two look perfect, but between the two of them batteries only get switched about once per day. I do use some of my other mods from time to time also so they don't feel neglected, which of course is contributing to the NC longevity.

I'm thinking of doing a Cerakote on the silver one...
 

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