what really causes this? I'm faily new to vaping it has only been a minth and half and seems i cant get the hang of it? I tried multiple brands and differrnt flavors same result. On my recent purchase i ordered 3 of each(50/50 60/40 max vg) in same flavor same nicotine level and i'm still a hit and miss as i get throat hits. So far the only juice that really worked well for me was hit that juice peach fuzz 3mg nic. Any suggestions?
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The main cause of TH is nicotine; at 3mg, it's no surprise that you're not getting much. The best way to accentuate TH is with PG -- and at 50/50 or 40/60 (PG/VG), also no surprise you're not getting much. To get TH, you need more nicotine, and a great deal more PG. There's also an additive called Flash, from FlavourArt -- I know ecigexpress.com carries it, because that's where I buy it -- I'm at 3.3mg nic, so even 85% PG doesn't provide enough Th to suit me, so I add Flash.
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Sorry, i meant how to get rid of it?
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The higher VG and lower nic strength will help. If a juice has a lot of flavoring in it, that can cause it, too. Flavorings used, are mainly in a PG base. Plus some people experience more throat hit with certain flavors. That doesn't seem to affect everyone, though.
You've got great responses already Shortfuse12, just wanted to add a couple of thoughts. When I vape at 40-45 watts I use 1 mg nic. At 20-24 watts I use 1.6 mg. More power generally means you're vaporizing more juice per second, so you'll get more nic per puff.
I also use 95% PG to enhance TH, but nic content is by far the biggest factor in my experience. Some nic also has more TH than others.
Good luck with it
I've tried a couple of TH enhancers, but not this one Andria. How much do you use and how effective is it?
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It's quite effective, as long as there's *some* nicotine; all by itself, it doesn't do much at all, but with some nicotine, and a fair amount of PG, it does a GREAT job.
It's hard to say exactly how much I use, though. I learned very early on that it's very easy to get too much, and fuck up a whole mix pretty badly, so I started making a pre-mix "sweet flash", using some Flash, nicotine, and a bit of sweetener, mixed with PG. My first pre-mix, when I was at 10mg, was a 10mg nic solution, using 20% flash and 2% sweetener. Later, as my nicotine level came down, I made a new pre-mix, 8mg nicotine, 28% Flash, and still 2% sweetener. Currently, I'm using a premix which is 3mg nic, 35% Flash, and 1% sweetener. With the pre-mixes, I use anywhere from 6% to 9% in a recipe -- currently with my latest pre-mix, I'm using 7%.
The pre-mixes were helpful because at first I was using WTA, which is 100% VG, so I needed extra PG to bring me to my preferred 80%-85% PG, and since I was using 10% WTA at first, I also wanted to make sure that it stayed sweet enough, hence the 2% sweetener in the pre-mix. The WTA has been gone for a while, and this summer my tastebuds finally started waking up, so I need a lot less sweetener than I did at first -- but since I'm currently at 3.3mg nic, I need a bit more Flash to still get good TH.
My recipes for the various Flash pre-mixes are at https://ecigvape.com/recipes/crypticvapes -- Sweet 3X Flash, Sweet 4X Flash, and Sweet 5X Flash -- along with all my other recipes.
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So i just ordered a bunch of 0mg ejuice most of em are 70/30 and 80/20, how do i go about in adding nicotine? Target would be 2mg
Thank you Andria ... That's exactly what I wanted to know
Going to see if I can get this up here in the great white north and give it a try
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Thank you Andria ... That's exactly what I wanted to know
Going to see if I can get this up here in the great white north and give it a try
I always get it at ECX, but I think Bullcity may have started carrying it. Dunno if bullcity ships up there, but I think ECX does. It's by FlavourArt. And JFYI, someone mentioned that the effect is from the active chemical in black pepper, piperine -- it has a bite, but not a capsicum-type burn. But use too much, and it just causes coughing.
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I always get it at ECX, but I think Bullcity may have started carrying it. Dunno if bullcity ships up there, but I think ECX does. It's by FlavourArt. And JFYI, someone mentioned that the effect is from the active chemical in black pepper, piperine -- it has a bite, but not a capsicum-type burn. But use too much, and it just causes coughing.
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I've tried the capsium type additive and didn't like it at any concentration. Hoping this is better but the only way to see is to bite the bullet and try it myself. Sure sounds interesting and if it doesn't have you coughing I've got a chance with it
. I'll let you know how it turns out if I try it.
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I've tried the capsium type additive and didn't like it at any concentration. Hoping this is better but the only way to see is to bite the bullet and try it myself. Sure sounds interesting and if it doesn't have you coughing I've got a chance with it
Maybe it appeals to me because I truly love black pepper; I don't buy it already ground, it's always stale that way -- I buy black peppercorns and grind them myself.
But yeah, the whole point of making those pre-mixes was to keep it a lot more controllable; too much and I just cough; just enough, and it gives me that mouth/throat tingle without which, I just don't like a vape at all -- it feels like the way I remember Carlton cigarettes -- smoke, but no sensation of smoking whatsofreakingEVER. Adding the Flash gives it *sensation*, even to the mild creamy vapes like my strawberry & cream.Andria
For a throat hit, this nicotine will knock your throat back, although it's still very smooth tasting nic.
https://www.nudenicotine.com/product/nicotine-salts-hit/
Thats the part i need to know, which one do i get to add to my ejuice that is 0mg nic so i can get 1.5 or 2mg nic
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Any will do. It's all a matter of how much of it you add to what you have. But no one can tell you how much to add, until you tell us what strength you have.
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Well this is what I had ordered what else do I need to buy to add nic to it?
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Well obviously, you have to buy some nicotine too. What strength you buy will determine how much to add -- if you buy 100mg, you won't need to add much at all to reach 1mg or 2mg, so it will affect the taste very little if at all. If you buy weaker nicotine, you'll need to add more, running the risk of diluting the taste considerably.
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ETA: You'll need a syringe too, for measuring the nicotine -- since you'll be adding such a small amount, I recommend a 1ml syringe, which are available at wizardlabs.us.
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ETA: You'll need a syringe too, for measuring the nicotine -- since you'll be adding such a small amount, I recommend a 1ml syringe, which are available at wizardlabs.us.
Inspects gave you a link to Nude Nicotine. They have the salts version the link takes you to and they also have the regular version for a bit less money.
If you get 100 mg/ml nic base and you want to make 2 mg/ml juice, you divide 2 mg by 100 mg:
2 / 100 = 0.02
You now know you need to add 0.02 ml of the nic base to every ml of juice. So for 10 ml of juice you would add 0.02 times 10 ml = 0.2 ml of the nic base. (It's actually 0.02 ml per 0.98 ml of juice, but in my opinion that's so close to 1 ml it's not worth worrying about.)
For 30 ml of juice you add 0.02 * 30 ml = 0.6 ml of nic base.
Be careful with 50 or 100 mg nic base. If you spill it on yourself you need to wash it off. The nic is absorbed through your skin over time and will get into your bloodstream. A few drops is nothing to worry about, but if you spill a bottle onto yourself wash it off your skin quickly.
If you buy 50 mg/ml nic base you'll have to use twice the amount of base per ml of juice (2 / 50 = 0.04). As Andria said, that will dilute your flavor more.
